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beau
post Jul 29 2010, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jul 29 2010, 02:04 PM)
Wow, I think lanatir is now glued to this thread and awaiting your first commission before he springs in himself. So very interesting. RM2k is not exaggerated at all if it is what I imagine it to be.
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I would be happy to defer to Lanatir to take the lead share with us the results of his efforts. Thomas Chan is reasonably articulate in English & there will be no need to translated "bevel waist" & "whole cut" to Cantonese!!
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post Jul 29 2010, 07:46 PM

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Wow. This gentleman Thomas Chan sounds good! If you're going to spend RM2k, why not go all out and import some good leather?

Timberland has some classic model shoes and boots. If you go to their Pavilion store you can order custom versions (you choose the colour combo and initials on shoe). Takes about a month for the shoe to arrive from the Dominican Republic.

I've got a friend who's been (ab)using his Timberlands for about 8 years now. Still in one piece.
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Jul 29 2010, 07:46 PM)
Wow. This gentleman Thomas Chan sounds good! If you're going to spend RM2k, why not go all out and import some good leather?

Timberland has some classic model shoes and boots. If you go to their Pavilion store you can order custom versions (you choose the colour combo and initials on shoe). Takes about a month for the shoe to arrive from the Dominican Republic.

I've got a friend who's been (ab)using his Timberlands for about 8 years now. Still in one piece.
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BV-I asked him about Shell Cordovan leather & he didn't seem to know about it. His ability to make shoes in different types of leather depends on where he can procure his leather which seems to be Italy. I think the Italian leather is softer & thinner ( 2 mm v 3 mm for the English variety ) If you are interested, pm me & I will pass his cell phone number to you on condition that you share pictures of the fruits of your commission with the forum.

I will check out Classic at Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman as well as the one at Wilayah Compleks before I revert with an update.At RM1,000 or RM1,500 I may have given it a go but at 2k I would save my money & buy a EG or another nice shoe when I am next in the UK.

I have a pair of boat shoes from Allen Edmonds which has repairable soles. The repair service is excellent & I have been using it for some years. They recently sent me a free pair of shoes when there was an inordinate delay in repairing my shoe without me having to request it. Now that is service you don't see in Malaysia!!
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post Jul 29 2010, 09:10 PM

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Allan-Edmonds rocks!

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Here are some of my friend's shoes. This one from before his 2007 expansion (about half of what he has now. Four of the shoes are genuine shell cordovan: right-hand side one in the second row and the first three sets on the left in the fourth row. He's quite partial to Allan-Edmonds.

His words "Some highlights - the white Grenson Masterpieces, and the Brooks black wingtips. He has both models of the Brooks classic wingtip - their "Brooks" model, made by Alden in the United States, and their "Peal & Co", made by Crockett and Jones until 2006."

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post Jul 29 2010, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Jul 29 2010, 09:10 PM)
Allan-Edmonds rocks!

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Here are some of my friend's shoes. This one from before his 2007 expansion (about half of what he has now. Four of the shoes are genuine shell cordovan: right-hand side one in the second row and the first three sets on the left in the fourth row. He's quite partial to Allan-Edmonds.

His words "Some highlights - the white Grenson Masterpieces, and the Brooks black wingtips. He has both models of the Brooks classic wingtip - their "Brooks" model, made by Alden in the United States, and their "Peal & Co", made by Crockett and Jones until 2006."
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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Jul 29 2010, 09:10 PM)
Allan-Edmonds rocks!

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Here are some of my friend's shoes. This one from before his 2007 expansion (about half of what he has now. Four of the shoes are genuine shell cordovan: right-hand side one in the second row and the first three sets on the left in the fourth row. He's quite partial to Allan-Edmonds.

His words "Some highlights - the white Grenson Masterpieces, and the Brooks black wingtips. He has both models of the Brooks classic wingtip - their "Brooks" model, made by Alden in the United States, and their "Peal & Co", made by Crockett and Jones until 2006."
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No luck in locating the two shoe makers in the Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman area I wrote about in my previous thread.

However, I came across San Lee shoes located in Taman Midah, Cheras. This company apparently specializes in custom manufacturing of dancing shoes & offers bespoke services. Not sure if anyone here has tried them .

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saw some picture of oxford shoes is nice. is there any place sell the oxford shoes around KL and what is the average price?
my budget wasn't much just around 150-300, if possible recommend me leather/or any others shoes that could match with jean around my budget

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Hey guys, im new to leather shoes and im currently looking for one..
normal black leather for college assignments and suitable to wear for formal dinner, my budget is around 200rm-ish?
please recommend pictures or places for me, thank you in advance smile.gif
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:14 PM

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Church's go on holiday...

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I had some German rubber put on

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post Aug 1 2010, 11:48 PM

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saw some picture of oxford shoes is nice. is there any place sell the oxford shoes around KL and what is the average price?
my budget wasn't much just around 150-300, if possible recommend me leather/or any others shoes that could match with jean around my budget


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Hey guys, im new to leather shoes and im currently looking for one..
normal black leather for college assignments and suitable to wear for formal dinner, my budget is around 200rm-ish?
please recommend pictures or places for me, thank you in advance


Sorry if I appear to be a toff, but I'm afraid you're not going to find a pair of shoes that will be anywhere near the standard of an average shoe posted in this thread with less than RM500. Plal (www.plal.com) which is based in KL, does offer a very good selection of shoes from Cheaney and Loake for around RM500-700. If you take good care of them, they will serve you for years. Otherwise, I do believe that a gentleman in this forum did manage to procure a rather decent pair of goodyear-welted oxfords from kulitkraf for just RM150 (correct me if I'm wrong).

Leatherwise, at your budget, it will have to be corrected grain. Tan brogues (be it wingtips, semi or full) go well with jeans. Formal dinner shoes, if it's a black tie event, I will go for a pair of black patent leather shoes but they are not very versatile and wouldn't go with an ordinary business suit. I suspect that the degree of formality that college events will call for would be at most a business suit. In that case, you wont go wrong with a pair of black, cap-toe oxfords.

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Church's go on holiday...


Wait.......you're not wearing that to Bali are you? In my first year as an undergrad, I managed to totally ruin a pair of Church's (wore it everyday, walking for miles in the face of the elements) while on holiday with it. How foolish was I.
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post Aug 1 2010, 11:51 PM

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So much of rubber, so Malaysian.
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My Kulitkraf shoes went on a working trip to Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) and Hanoi.
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gentlemen, i have a case study up for opinion:

1. purpose: wardrobe expansion
2. core focus: shoes for daily office wear
3. quantity required: 3 pairs - 2 in black and 1 in brown/tan
4. shortlist: Loake, Alfred Sargent, Johnston & Murphy and Cheaney
5. current scenario: 5 pairs - 3 wingtips (in black, brown and suede), 2 cap toes (in brown and oxblood)

questions: which brand and what style should i go for? is J&M any good?
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QUOTE(attacusatlas @ Aug 2 2010, 04:42 PM)
gentlemen, i have a case study up for opinion:

1. purpose: wardrobe expansion
2. core focus: shoes for daily office wear
3. quantity required: 3 pairs - 2 in black and 1 in brown/tan
4. shortlist: Loake, Alfred Sargent, Johnston & Murphy and Cheaney
5. current scenario: 5 pairs - 3 wingtips (in black, brown and suede), 2 cap toes (in brown and oxblood)

questions: which brand and what style should i go for? is J&M any good?
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Wouldn't it depend more on your budget? I don't know about AS, J&M or Cheaney but so far I'm happy with my 2 pairs of Loakes. Maybe 1 black brogue, 1 black captoe and 1 chocolate brown brogue?

BTW, does this look like a phallic symbol!??

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gentlemen, i have a case study up for opinion:

1. purpose: wardrobe expansion
2. core focus: shoes for daily office wear
3. quantity required: 3 pairs - 2 in black and 1 in brown/tan
4. shortlist: Loake, Alfred Sargent, Johnston & Murphy and Cheaney
5. current scenario: 5 pairs - 3 wingtips (in black, brown and suede), 2 cap toes (in brown and oxblood)

questions: which brand and what style should i go for? is J&M any good?


I cannot comment about Johnston & Murphy but can certainly do so for the rest of them. Loake would be the cheapest among the brands that you listed other than Johnston & Murphy that I am unaware of. Quality-wise, it does not measure up to AF and Cheaney. Their lower end lines (L1 and Loake England) are all constructed using corrected grain leathers which is rather stiff and little too shiny initially. Even then, they are perfectly wearable as everyday shoes. I personally own a pair each from those lines that I mentioned and they serve the purpose as my school/ going out/ interview shoes. Loake do have a line of calf skin shoes as well. They are not as supple as higher end (C&J, Church's) calf skins but at they are priced very reasonably in my opinion. I prefer Cheaney to Alfred Sargent although my preferences are probably skewed by the fact that I see more Cheaneys than Alfred Sargents. If the rumours are true, Cheaney shoes are made out of leathers that fail to pass Church's quality controls. This means that they are actually really good leathers other than perhaps very minor flaws that a plabian like me cannot tell. But I shall refrain from comparing Cheaney to Church's as it's like comparing a 3 series to a 6 series BMW. So, my conclusion is that, if budget is a huge consideration, go for Loake. Otherwise, Cheaney is what I recommend.

Get a pair of tan semi-brogue Oxfords, a pair of black derby and a pair of black single-monkstrap!

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BTW, does this look like a phallic symbol!??


*stares down at own shoes... see's something very similar*.... no! it's a fleur de lis...
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QUOTE(beau @ Jul 29 2010, 08:48 PM)
I have a pair of boat shoes from Allen Edmonds which has repairable soles. The repair service is excellent & I have been using it for some years. They recently sent me a free pair of shoes when there was an inordinate delay in repairing my shoe without me having to request it. Now that is service you don't see in Malaysia!!
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free pair!!! don't have to return after they fix your shoes.
how much did they charge for their service?

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QUOTE(BikerVoodoo @ Aug 2 2010, 04:46 PM)
Wouldn't it depend more on your budget? I don't know about AS, J&M or Cheaney but so far I'm happy with my 2 pairs of Loakes. Maybe 1 black brogue, 1 black captoe and 1 chocolate brown brogue?

BTW, does this look like a phallic symbol!??
thanks for your suggestion, sir and no, it doesn't look like one. thus, you can rest assured that no one will be offended whilst you're wearing these beauties.


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QUOTE(BonVivant @ Aug 2 2010, 10:28 PM)
I cannot comment about Johnston & Murphy but can certainly do so for the rest of them. Loake would be the cheapest among the brands that you listed other than Johnston & Murphy that I am unaware of. Quality-wise, it does not measure up to AF and Cheaney. Their lower end lines (L1 and Loake England) are all constructed using corrected grain leathers which is rather stiff and little too shiny initially. Even then, they are perfectly wearable as everyday shoes. I personally own a pair each from those lines that I mentioned and they serve the purpose as my school/ going out/ interview shoes. Loake do have a line of calf skin shoes as well. They are not as supple as higher end (C&J, Church's) calf skins but at they are priced very reasonably in my opinion. I prefer Cheaney to Alfred Sargent although my preferences are probably skewed by the fact that I see more Cheaneys than Alfred Sargents. If the rumours are true, Cheaney shoes are made out of leathers that fail to pass Church's quality controls. This means that they are actually really good leathers other than perhaps very minor flaws that a plabian like me cannot tell. But I shall refrain from comparing Cheaney to Church's as it's like comparing a 3 series to a 6 series BMW. So, my conclusion is that, if budget is a huge consideration, go for Loake. Otherwise, Cheaney is what I recommend.

Get a pair of tan semi-brogue Oxfords, a pair of black derby and a pair of black single-monkstrap!
thank you so much for the details, sir. it is very much appreciated.

i have read somewhere that Cheaney is owned by Church's. therefore i trust that you are right on the quality of the dead bovine. however, knowing that i will be semi-thrashing my shoes, i shall prohibit myself from acquiring something from the higher end ie Church's or CJ, and Cheaney seems to be the best bet amongst. i did a brief check at pediwear and much to my dismay, the options were scarce. p.lal store seems to be the only source for it locally. any other online store that you have in mind?

throughout my entire life, i have never owned a pair of non lace-up shoes and i can't really imagine myself in a pair of monk strap; i really don't wish to give a bad name to these beauties. i came across a pair at Salvatore Ferragamo and the workmanship is superb IMHO.

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Any recommended place where I can find large collection of shoes polishes/waxes.
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Ace Hardware has Kiwis and such. Perfect for Ferero Gamos.
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QUOTE(kotmj @ Aug 3 2010, 05:06 PM)
Ace Hardware has Kiwis and such. Perfect for Ferero Gamos.
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Thanks...sir kotmj......I believe your IT dept is tracking every single step of your internet activities in your office..... shocking.gif
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Added on August 3, 2010, 5:22 pmOf course I should probably add that no shoe connoisseur uses Kiwi.

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