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SUSizdyharz
post Apr 1 2010, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(fussylogic @ Apr 1 2010, 10:51 AM)
Advantage?
What kind of advantage you get from strong UNI from RELEVANT FIELD?

FYI, the company will only look at RELEVANT experiences and RELEVANT fields of study based on the position you apply.
Nope.
Which university you graduated from does matters for some companies.
Not only that, if you graduated from oversea, the possibilty to get the interview is higher than those graduated from local universities.
You know why? Because they know education in Malaysia is sucks.
I know this because I was one of the HR application developer in one of the largest local bank in Malaysia.

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post Apr 2 2010, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(izdyharz @ Apr 1 2010, 01:49 PM)
Nope.
Which university you graduated from does matters for some companies.
Not only that, if you graduated from oversea, the possibilty to get the interview is higher than those graduated from local universities.
You know why? Because they know education in Malaysia is sucks.
I know this because I was one of the HR application developer in one of the largest local bank in Malaysia.
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I some what agree with izdyharz. I know a firm "discriminate" UTAR/TAR college, the reasoning was... (let just say not something good). Unless you pull some strings. However I pretty sure you will get an interview if you graduate from Oxford with a lousy grade. But we are not here to discuss whether that is ethical.

On top of that some times relevant field does play a role. You understand the industry better. Finance will always have upper when applying to bank than engineers, management > accounting for management consulting. And you do see a marketing student joining shell as O&G engineer haha.
BUT if you are determine, nothing stopping from working extra hard to ace the interviewer even when you dont come from that background.

Salary update for fresh graduate :

BAT's MT : RM 3,000 - RM3,500
CIMB's MT : RM 3,000 - RM 3,500
HSBC's MT : RM2,500 (for 6 month probation)
Big 4 : RM2,400 to RM2,600
ECMLibra's MT : RM3,000 to RM 3,500
Accenture Consulting : RM3,500
Public Bank fresh grad with degree : RM2,800
UOB : RM2,400 to RM 2,700
Alliance Bank: RM 2,200 (could be outdated)
OSK : RM2,600 to RM2,800
Citibank : RM2,300+

note: unless started otherwise, these salary are normally given to fresh grad with degree.

Some of it could be wrong/outdated. But a rough estimate and based on peers feedback. On top of that you wont knpw the perks,bonus or working environment. Eg, accenture provide really good perks for travelling project; Most Big 4 work like hell during peak except areas like advisory; MT programme normally has bond except for HSBC and etc etc.
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QUOTE(izdyharz @ Apr 1 2010, 01:49 PM)
Nope.
Which university you graduated from does matters for some companies.
Not only that, if you graduated from oversea, the possibilty to get the interview is higher than those graduated from local universities.
You know why? Because they know education in Malaysia is sucks.
I know this because I was one of the HR application developer in one of the largest local bank in Malaysia.
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agree, for freshgrad they dont know what you are capable of since no working experience, the university will the brand name they judge you on.
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post Apr 2 2010, 10:37 AM


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what's the average salary for a BA (hon) networking computing with 2 years experience? is that require to take CCNA? and CEH as well?
I am worrying cant get better job after i came back from UK, anyone can enlighten me? via pm? and 19th this year..
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post Apr 2 2010, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(underpressure @ Apr 2 2010, 01:55 AM)
I some what agree with izdyharz. I know a firm "discriminate" UTAR/TAR college, the reasoning was... (let just say not something good). Unless you pull some strings. However I pretty sure you will get an interview if you graduate from Oxford with a lousy grade. But we are not here to discuss whether that is ethical.

On top of that some times relevant field does play a role. You understand the industry better. Finance will always have upper when applying to bank than engineers, management > accounting for management consulting. And you do see a marketing student joining shell as O&G engineer haha.
BUT if you are determine, nothing stopping from working extra hard to ace the interviewer even when you dont come from that background.

Salary update for fresh graduate :

BAT's MT : RM 3,000 - RM3,500
CIMB's MT : RM 3,000 - RM 3,500
HSBC's MT : RM2,500 (for 6 month probation)
Big 4 : RM2,400 to RM2,600
ECMLibra's MT : RM3,000 to RM 3,500
Accenture Consulting : RM3,500
Public Bank fresh grad with degree : RM2,800
UOB : RM2,400 to RM 2,700
Alliance Bank: RM 2,200 (could be outdated)
OSK : RM2,600 to RM2,800
Citibank : RM2,300+

note: unless started otherwise, these salary are normally given to fresh grad with degree.

Some of it could be wrong/outdated. But a rough estimate and based on peers feedback. On top of that you wont knpw the perks,bonus or working environment. Eg, accenture provide really good perks for travelling project; Most Big 4 work like hell during peak except areas like advisory; MT programme normally has bond except for HSBC and etc etc.
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If with only ACCA qualification can one apply for those job stated above?
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post Apr 2 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(starz92 @ Apr 2 2010, 11:11 AM)
If with only ACCA qualification can one apply for those job stated above?
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Not too sure, ACCA might get you in for Big 4 and audit firm. Not too sure about the rest, but no harm trying right?

Not too sure about the bank hiring process but if you intend to apply for bank's mt programme you might face really stiff competition as you are competing against degree holder AND Master holder. So I would suggest take the extra effort to prepare
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i have a question?

what are the salary rate for a guy who had a 10yrs experience in engineering working in Singapore nowadays. in managerial position? hope someone could clarify this for me. tq

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QUOTE(azrink @ Apr 2 2010, 03:20 PM)
i have a question?

what are the salary rate for a guy who had a 10yrs experience in engineering working in Singapore nowadays. in managerial position? hope someone could clarify this for me. tq
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over 9000.
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QUOTE(vey99 @ Apr 2 2010, 03:28 PM)
over 9000.
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WHAT? 9000?!

(I thought it could be higher unsure.gif )
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post Apr 2 2010, 04:22 PM

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then double up lo 18000
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post Apr 2 2010, 09:41 PM

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I have some friends those are an engineer in SG.
Frankly speaking, double E engineer in SG is not really doing that well.
6-7 years experience only fetch sgd5k+ in MNC.

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HI, does anyone working with RAM HOLDING as research associate? I want to know how is their working environment and the basia salary for fresh grad.. pls help
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QUOTE(say_it @ Apr 2 2010, 09:41 PM)
I have some friends those are an engineer in SG.
Frankly speaking, double E engineer in SG is not really doing that well.
6-7 years experience only fetch sgd5k+ in MNC.
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but he is asking about Mgr role with Engineering background + 10 years SG working exp.
so >9k normal. How much more depend on the fields and your quality. Some dont do technical work but sales, so their salary also depend on their sales.


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post Apr 3 2010, 01:13 PM

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May i know how much should a pay an chartered accountant with acca qualifications and 3/4 years working experience?
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Apr 3 2010, 11:37 AM)
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but he is asking about Mgr role with Engineering background + 10 years SG working exp.
so >9k normal. How much more depend on the fields and your quality. Some dont do technical work but sales, so their salary also depend on their sales.
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The one I know they're doing technical stuff, some of them are design engineer mainly in semi-con industry.
I doubt the gap between a managerial role and a senior engineer role will be that large.
Unless they're in certain industry.
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post Apr 4 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(say_it @ Apr 3 2010, 05:02 PM)
The one I know they're doing technical stuff, some of them are design engineer mainly in semi-con industry.
I doubt the gap between a managerial role and a senior engineer role will be that large.
Unless they're in certain industry.
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thanks mate. i've just been offered a job there in the water industry. damn if in that case I believe i ve been had. they offered me sgd5000. if what u say is more then that, then this company really underpaid me. now what should i do. i've already signed the agreement last week n will start my work in may. am i to late to do something about it. please help me

p/s my motivation drop already cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(azrink @ Apr 4 2010, 11:24 AM)
thanks mate. i've just been offered a job there in the water industry. damn if in that case I believe i ve been had. they offered me sgd5000. if what u say is more then that, then this company really underpaid me. now what should i do. i've already signed the agreement last week n will start my work in may. am i to late to do something about it. please help me

p/s my motivation drop already  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Although after currency conversion, 5K SGD seems attractive but dont forget dollar to dollar spending in Singapore...
Dollar to dollar comparison wise, a 5 yr working exp engineer can earn up to RM5 or 6k in Msia..

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post Apr 4 2010, 03:59 PM

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Besides jobstreet, jobsdb,star-jobs & thestar, where else has a lot of job postings especially managerial level?
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post Apr 4 2010, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Apr 3 2010, 11:37 AM)
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but he is asking about Mgr role with Engineering background + 10 years SG working exp.
so >9k normal. How much more depend on the fields and your quality. Some dont do technical work but sales, so their salary also depend on their sales.
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you mean 10yrs workin experience in singapore or malaysia or either way. are there any difference, i mean working experience in sg and msia? I m more into technical stuff, mainly in a Water Treatment Plant. my experience mainly in malaysia, 10yrs to be exect. just had a first break in working in sg. but i guess most already know. i m really super duper noob in working in singapore. so i dunno how to nego my salary. even in malaysia i dunno how to nego my salary, i dont want to be call a greedy person. but at the same time i dont ppl to take an advantage over my sincerity. I believe i had been underpaid for a very long time.... luck for those 5/6yrs experience in engineering getting in Rm6K-Rm7K. me? 10yrs experience, salary rm4600 only ... thats wahy after 10yrs ive decided to move on.

if what some of the forumers said that u can get sgd7k-sgd9k for the same kind of experience that i have, then the underpaid thingy would haunted me for the rest of my life. My motivation towards my new work went back to zero already. nasib badan..... wink.gif blush.gif

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post Apr 4 2010, 09:14 PM

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@azrink, tall to your malaysian boss, can he increase your pay if you wish. It has been 10 years, what will happen in next 5 years, the same? So what to lose if you chose to work in Sg for 5k but a new environment and new opportunity ahead?

Dollar to Dollar spending is part of the story. Say saving for example, you can save Rm1k in MY vs you save S$1k in SG, whick has higher spending power? The question will be are you coming to work or move your whole family here for real.

I am not in your industry so I can't comment on the experience part. S$5k is your starting pay for a new guy in a company. RM5k is the pay you get being a veteran in a company. Which one you think will increase further?

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