I want to ask, is it the Category Management Exec & Manager in FMCG pays very well? I heard some rumors & a relative said 1 year experience or less can get over RM 5k monthly. Personally I doubt so.

I am not sure how much these companies pay for this post though.

But this relative of mine happens to be in FMCG line (chinaman owned company but going international) with the same post as an exec, less than a year experience (yes, count from after graduation). The overall package including special allowances, car maintenance & petrol fleet car entitlement, is over RM 4k.

I also believe it is a rumor but this relative of mine insists that it is true... hence my post in this thread.

This post has been edited by deeplyheartbroken: Mar 4 2010, 11:05 PM

Basically little travelling except some FMCG customers' visits around Klang Valley. I wondered what is the actual salary range for this position?

Just want to ask whether can file constructive dismissal on a case like this;

Work as sales, marketing & product trainer (under sales department) in this company for 3 years+
First 1-2 year performance is good with constant credit from the MD & GM as well as overseas affiliates' colleagues.
However 3rd year performance dropped due to personal/breakups/family/health problem coupled with somehow frequent medical/emergency leaves (all within the limit).

Then the company start its ploy;

1) Company has no focus job scope for the person; such as suddenly asked to do product trainer+marketing then suddenly asked to do general sales & commissioning.

2) Also the superior practice micro management on the person & asked for overly detailed weekly reports & figures.

3) Also simply give a warning letter (after the customer complaint) just because service department does not attend to a particular customer under the person's sales territory, despite the person already give 2 reminders to the service department. Also on a few cases, projects/customers given to the person handle was suddenly taken back, just because of a single mistake (which also caused by another colleague too). Hence making the person unable to achieve reasonable target for that 3rd year (hence the performance).

4) Superior also scaring the person with planning of changing his job scope again to indoor sales support (something like being demoted). In addition, the performance bonus reviewed by the superior dropped to a measly 0.2 months or something like that. Previously on 1st & 2nd year, the person got at least 3-4 months bonus.

5) Superior refused to approve claims submitted on the last day of submission by requested by accounts. The claim is total for almost 9-12 months. Cause of this last minute submission due to the superior impose rules of detailed reports must tally with the claims, hence causing the person to submit on last day. However, despite accounts department postponed the submission date, superior still don't sign & passed to HR to handle. The claims amounted to almost RM 10k. HR also delayed the case for months & never sign as well. The person also in debt to credit cards due to overly subsidizing the company.

6) When the person threathen to resign (as he cannot absorb or stand anymore), the HR & accounts head (while the superior now don't care & play cold war) offer to pay back only 50% of the claims. Somehow the person accepted due to urgently need the money. The HR & account also force the person to sign an agreement that he will not take the case to sue regarding the claim.

7) At last the person resigned & only got back 50% of the claims as well as his last month salary (with the offset of annual leaves left, he choose for earlier last day)

Anyhow, the person already resigned for some time now. So he probably can't file anything against the company, but just want to ask whether he got a chance back then. Please share.

The person didn't reach his quota for MC, still left around 6 days. Didn't take any unpaid leave before. Previously the person was one of the record holder in the company for most healthy award (never take MC for 2 consecutive years). It is a MNC run by chinaman.

Yes, job scope stated. Regarding the claims, he waited many months due to overwhelming detailed reports required (which must submit together with the claims, if not tally will be rejected as well) & also lots of family/personal/health problems which further delay the reports as well as the claims.

By the way, he know he cannot file any case now. Just asking whether he got chance back then.

Please advice your input on this below situation on my friend;

He got into an established chinaman local company for taking care the whole branch & sales. Pay is average. Business is picking up but still below average from the target set due to one man show (one leg kicking) in the branch. After all my fren is just 4-5 months with the company. Delivery, collection, courier, sales & day-day branch operation all run by him alone. HQ never provide much support to the branch as well, except really basic stuff.

Now he is about to due for confirmation, the boss sneakly sent his relative (also working in the company) to negotiate indirectly with my friend on decreasing his salary on the pretext of lowering constant pressure on monthly targets. Initially with commission in contract but now without commission with the excuse that he is in probation. The monthly target also suddenly doubled (eg. RM 40k jumped to RM 80k) then initially agreed. My fren never complaint anything due to his mild nature.Then this relative of boss kept persuading my fren to take up lower salary (eg. dropped from RM 6k to RM 3.5k, the rest need to earn by commission) in return with better commission... which is like a normal salesman (my fren now is taking a managerial post). In addition, the accounts/boss side had few times been slow on processing the salary & claims, which further making my fren doubtful on a better commission scheme. My fren now already rejected that idea many times but still that boss relative is very insistent. Other than that, the boss relative is friendly with my fren. The boss kept quiet on this like nothing happens. All this making my fren feeling very insecure & bothered in mind staying with this company. My fren also don't want to make his resume looks bad for so fast jumping to another job now.

What is the best course of way to handle this? Thank you guys for helping.

Employer give 1 month notice to probation employee to quit, can sue this way? Or otherwise get 50% pay cut. How?

Besides jobstreet, jobsdb,star-jobs & thestar, where else has a lot of job postings especially managerial level?

The salaries all posted here is basic only or gross with allowances, claims & etc?

I hate to say this but 90% of non-MNC management trainee position is nothing but mere cheap labor for the company blinded with deceiving future. If there is no black & white that you will be a management level after a year, take it as nothing but a pinch of salt.

It happen to MNCs too albeit chances are lower.

Is it true a mere brand exec in reknown FMCG with business degree & around 1 year experience can get RM 4k basic salary? I feel it is absurd that FMCG pays so well while engineering field pays so less (except in oil & gas).