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 Yamaha AVR Thread v2.00, Discussions about Yamaha AVR

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alucard_my
post Nov 26 2012, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(torokmaktu @ Nov 25 2012, 09:06 PM)
Hi Alucard

Try disabling your HDMI_CEC from your TV. This will allow you to control the receiver insependently from the TV.

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That should be Aquos Link on my Sharp TV. I don't think I set it to on, but let's see tonight. I'm getting a 15m LAN to test out the network capability today though.
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post Nov 26 2012, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(alucard_my @ Nov 26 2012, 08:57 AM)
That should be Aquos Link on my Sharp TV. I don't think I set it to on, but let's see tonight. I'm getting a 15m LAN to test out the network capability today though.
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If still unable go to Yammy setup menu and switch OFF your HDMI control. I have this proble initially with my Aventage series and now it is solved.


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post Nov 26 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(torokmaktu @ Nov 26 2012, 12:58 PM)
If still unable go to Yammy setup menu and switch OFF your HDMI control. I have this proble initially with my Aventage series and now it is solved.
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Aquos Link is off by default. HDMI control is off by default. No improvement. sad.gif
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post Nov 27 2012, 09:37 AM

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Hi Alucard
Did you try to physically switch off the AVR and the TV from the power socket and wait for a while for the system to reset before switching it ON again.
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post Nov 27 2012, 04:45 PM

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Tried again with the TV not in standby mode and it worked. Guess the standby from the TV is the culprit.

On internet radio, it worked well. WiFi remote in android worked flawlessly as well (need to manually input IP if you set the amp to static IP which in this case I did). But it doesn't seem to detect my NAS. Only able to detect the Thompson router on both manual and auto ip. Same thing happened when I tried to 'see' my NAS from PS3. Couldn't detect. But media player sees it well though..
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hi guys,
how much does a Optimizer Mic cost and where to get it?
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post Dec 4 2012, 01:37 PM

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Got my RX-V473 after getting poisoned by a friend's Aventage series. Used to have a cheap amp but has not revisited home theatre systems since it died a long time ago. Was pleasantly surprised how far AV receivers came along.

Hit the same error when updating firmware to 1.14 from the receiver unit itself, downloaded firmware into USB drive and it works.

Love DLNA - playing music from my WDTVLiveHub.
Minor detail :
Net Server mode to play music > change to any other scene/input source > change back to net Server. It gets out-of-sync and keeps waiting on "loading" to display music list.
Hitting "Net" to cycle through Net radio, airplay and back to Net Server solves it.

IR Remote control seems to drain new Energizer batteries in 2 days. Swapped 3 sets of new batteries. Got the remote control changed from the shop, we'll see how this one goes but I suspect I just got a lemon.

I keep getting "Error - Too noisy" when trying to auto calibrate with the YPAO mic, even at night with the ceiling fan off. Chose to proceed anyway and then tune by ear.

Once the initial setup is out of the way, I'm enjoying it.
Went out to get the NS-SW210 a week later. Although auto-calibration sets the crossover at 40Hz, I found it to be better at 110Hz. After which looking at articles online looks like that matches my small to mid size speakers.


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post Dec 4 2012, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(plasma @ Dec 4 2012, 01:37 PM)
Got my RX-V473 after getting poisoned by a friend's Aventage series.  Used to have a cheap amp but has not revisited home theatre systems since it died a long time ago.  Was pleasantly surprised how far AV receivers came along. 

Hit the same error when updating firmware to 1.14 from the receiver unit itself, downloaded firmware into USB drive and it works. 

Love DLNA - playing music from my WDTVLiveHub. 
Minor detail :
Net Server mode to play music > change to any other scene/input source > change back to net Server.  It gets out-of-sync and keeps waiting on "loading" to display music list. 
Hitting "Net" to cycle through Net radio, airplay and back to Net Server solves it. 

IR Remote control seems to drain new Energizer batteries in 2 days. Swapped 3 sets of new batteries.  Got the remote control changed from the shop, we'll see how this one goes but I suspect I just got a lemon. 

I keep getting "Error - Too noisy" when trying to auto calibrate with the YPAO mic, even at night with the ceiling fan off.  Chose to proceed anyway and then tune by ear. 

Once the initial setup is out of the way, I'm enjoying it. 
Went out to get the NS-SW210 a week later.  Although auto-calibration sets the crossover at 40Hz, I found it to be better at 110Hz.  After which looking at articles online looks like that matches my small to mid size speakers.
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Congrats on your purchase. I found that for Yamaha if you are patient and you set it up correctly you will be rewarded with the their Expansive sound with good soundstaging and depth. Care to share what mid size speakers you are currently using.
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(plasma @ Dec 4 2012, 01:37 PM)
Got my RX-V473 after getting poisoned by a friend's Aventage series.  Used to have a cheap amp but has not revisited home theatre systems since it died a long time ago.  Was pleasantly surprised how far AV receivers came along. 

Hit the same error when updating firmware to 1.14 from the receiver unit itself, downloaded firmware into USB drive and it works. 

Love DLNA - playing music from my WDTVLiveHub. 
Minor detail :
Net Server mode to play music > change to any other scene/input source > change back to net Server.  It gets out-of-sync and keeps waiting on "loading" to display music list. 
Hitting "Net" to cycle through Net radio, airplay and back to Net Server solves it. 

IR Remote control seems to drain new Energizer batteries in 2 days. Swapped 3 sets of new batteries.  Got the remote control changed from the shop, we'll see how this one goes but I suspect I just got a lemon. 

I keep getting "Error - Too noisy" when trying to auto calibrate with the YPAO mic, even at night with the ceiling fan off.  Chose to proceed anyway and then tune by ear. 

Once the initial setup is out of the way, I'm enjoying it. 
Went out to get the NS-SW210 a week later.  Although auto-calibration sets the crossover at 40Hz, I found it to be better at 110Hz.  After which looking at articles online looks like that matches my small to mid size speakers.
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Congratulation, I own 473 for about 3 months now, with Yamaha 210 speakers set + SW 315 sub.

My YPAO setup was smooth. for firmware update, had the same problem you faced, end up use usb for update.


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post Dec 4 2012, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(plasma @ Dec 4 2012, 01:37 PM)
Got my RX-V473 after getting poisoned by a friend's Aventage series.  Used to have a cheap amp but has not revisited home theatre systems since it died a long time ago.  Was pleasantly surprised how far AV receivers came along. 

Hit the same error when updating firmware to 1.14 from the receiver unit itself, downloaded firmware into USB drive and it works. 

Love DLNA - playing music from my WDTVLiveHub. 
Minor detail :
Net Server mode to play music > change to any other scene/input source > change back to net Server.  It gets out-of-sync and keeps waiting on "loading" to display music list. 
Hitting "Net" to cycle through Net radio, airplay and back to Net Server solves it. 

IR Remote control seems to drain new Energizer batteries in 2 days. Swapped 3 sets of new batteries.  Got the remote control changed from the shop, we'll see how this one goes but I suspect I just got a lemon. 

I keep getting "Error - Too noisy" when trying to auto calibrate with the YPAO mic, even at night with the ceiling fan off.  Chose to proceed anyway and then tune by ear. 

Once the initial setup is out of the way, I'm enjoying it. 
Went out to get the NS-SW210 a week later.  Although auto-calibration sets the crossover at 40Hz, I found it to be better at 110Hz.  After which looking at articles online looks like that matches my small to mid size speakers.
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Ya forgot to mention. Do not trust Yamaha Ypao settings more often than not they give you false info like your speaker are out of phase, subwoofer recommended setting given way to low at least for me. Trust your own ears more and the sound that you want to hear and not what other people tell you.
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QUOTE(torokmaktu @ Dec 4 2012, 08:31 PM)
Ya forgot to mention. Do not trust Yamaha Ypao settings more often than not they give you false info like your speaker are out of phase, subwoofer recommended setting given way to low at least for me. Trust your own ears more and the sound that you want to hear and not what other people tell you.
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Can 473 do manual calibration?
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post Dec 5 2012, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 4 2012, 08:32 PM)
Can 473 do manual calibration?
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Any receiver should be able to calibrate manually. Check your manual it should have a test tone where you can trigger and you can also manually key in the distance of the speakers from your sitting position. If not sure google it should be able to find. I am not using 473 right now but I am sure it can be done having own 3 different brand of receiver before.


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post Dec 5 2012, 09:49 AM

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yes, yamaha avr at least have the distance, loudness offset & subwoofer crossover settings
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post Dec 5 2012, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(torokmaktu @ Dec 4 2012, 08:31 PM)
Ya forgot to mention. Do not trust Yamaha Ypao settings more often than not they give you false info like your speaker are out of phase, subwoofer recommended setting given way to low at least for me. Trust your own ears more and the sound that you want to hear and not what other people tell you.
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The higher end models like the 673 has YPAO RSC (Reflected Sound Control) which also measures reflected sound and compensate for areas where you have wall on left and none on right.
The 473 doesn't have RSC, so it's definitely not accurate unless you have a rectangular room.


Added on December 5, 2012, 10:37 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 4 2012, 08:32 PM)
Can 473 do manual calibration?
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Like the folks said, you can turn on test tones which cycles through each speaker & subwoofer.
Under Setup > Speakers > you have:
Configuration
- speaker size
- sub crossover freq
- extra bass (you need to set front speakers to Large)
distance
level

Go download the manual, I finished reading it before going into the store to test it out. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by plasma: Dec 5 2012, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(plasma @ Dec 5 2012, 10:31 PM)
The higher end models like the 673 has YPAO RSC (Reflected Sound Control) which also measures reflected sound and compensate for areas where you have wall on left and none on right. 
The 473 doesn't have RSC, so it's definitely not accurate unless you have a rectangular room.


Added on December 5, 2012, 10:37 pm

Like the folks said, you can turn on test tones which cycles through each speaker & subwoofer.
Under Setup > Speakers > you have:
Configuration
- speaker size
- sub crossover freq
- extra bass (you need to set front speakers to Large)
distance
level

Go download the manual, I finished reading it before going into the store to test it out.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the input. May want to adjust the loudness only. For Sub crossover Freq my SW-315 sub can adjust the high cut , will let the sub do the filter.
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post Dec 5 2012, 10:43 PM

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Am also trying out a lot of 6ch FLAC. Just realized after reading through a developer blog that DLNA does not support lossless audio transfer. No wonder when I use Net > Server to play the FLAC files in "Straight" mode, it still shows stereo. DLNA forces on-the-fly transcoding of the audio.

I'm using my WDTVLiveHub media player to play it via HDMI instead and I'm hearing 5.1 now.
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post Dec 5 2012, 11:12 PM

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My NAS is Synology DS209+ii running on RAID 1 smile.gif

Media player is Dune. Don't plan to use the Yamaha 473 as DLNA player. Dune GUI are much better.


Added on December 5, 2012, 11:13 pmOh, Dune is configure to read from my Synology as NFS, not using DLNA.

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post Dec 5 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 5 2012, 11:12 PM)
My NAS is Synology DS209+ii running on RAID 1 smile.gif 

Media player is Dune. Don't plan to use the Yamaha 473 as DLNA player. Dune GUI are much better.


Added on December 5, 2012, 11:13 pmOh, Dune is configure to read from my Synology as NFS, not using DLNA.
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Awesome! Yea, the next consideration is a NAS.
Have been eyeing a few. Saw SmartStor NS2600 for RM499.
Obviously Synology is best.

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post Dec 6 2012, 12:29 PM

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why my yamaha v473 cannot adjust speaker independence ohms? not happy with this model sad.gif
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QUOTE(melvincts @ Dec 6 2012, 12:29 PM)
why my yamaha v473 cannot adjust speaker independence ohms? not happy with this model  sad.gif
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Only the US and Canada model of the v473 has impedance adjustment.

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