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 How much is your net worth?, gauging your financial performance.

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post Dec 27 2024, 03:20 PM

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30 yrs ago, when the starting pay were just about 200 pm, to hv 1 millions saved at age 55 seems like really rich.
30 yrs later, now 1 millions, is still 1 million but just in numbers only.
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post Dec 27 2024, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 27 2024, 02:23 PM)
The EPF math works out. Reality of course depends.

I didn't have anyone to pay my education or my car or my house.

If you withdraw EPF for house, how much is the house worth? Networth takes into account that. Most people don't have RM1mil lying around in a bank, they have it as part of assets.

If you started with a salary of RM3,000 and receive zero increment and zero bonus for the rest of your career, you will have RM1mil in EPF. Provided if nothing is being withdrawn.

While I will agree not everyone will have a 3k salary blah blah blah, but if you retire at 60 or 65, and you can't get a single cent of increment, there isn't anyone to blame.
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Not everyone is fortunate to keep EPF without withdrawal till age 65 years. especially during MCO. if no withdrawal , i ady eat grass.

ok la. back to the the thread.

so guys, how much your net worth? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



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post Dec 27 2024, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Dec 27 2024, 04:59 PM)
Not everyone is fortunate to keep EPF without withdrawal till age 65 years. especially during MCO. if no withdrawal , i ady eat grass.

ok la. back to the the thread.

so guys, how much your net worth?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Exactly, life is not theory so you run your race la bro. Don't measure against others, else you will never find the happiness line.

I think the members here all preach the same. As long as you met your goals in life, it's worth celebrating.
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post Dec 27 2024, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 27 2024, 05:05 PM)
Exactly, life is not theory so you run your race la bro. Don't measure against others, else you will never find the happiness line.

I think the members here all preach the same. As long as you met your goals in life, it's worth celebrating.
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couldn't agree more man. thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by BboyDora: Dec 27 2024, 06:14 PM
Wedchar2912
post Dec 27 2024, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 27 2024, 03:20 PM)
30 yrs ago, when the starting pay were just about 200 pm,  to hv 1 millions saved at age 55 seems like really rich.
30 yrs later, now 1 millions, is still 1 million but just in numbers only.
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No lar... 30 years ago was 1994/5. Starting pay should be around 1K rm already for many... uni grad may even get 1.5K.

Nonetheless, yeah, 1 million ringgit was a lot of money back then... if at 55 have 1 million ringgit, one would feel very well off.
if I use chicken rice cost as multiplier (1.5rm in 1995 for a plate vs 8rm now), that is like having 5 million now.
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post Dec 27 2024, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 27 2024, 09:42 PM)
No lar... 30 years ago was 1994/5. Starting pay should be around 1K rm already for many... uni grad may even get 1.5K.

Nonetheless, yeah, 1 million ringgit was a lot of money back then... if at 55 have 1 million ringgit, one would feel very well off.
if I use chicken rice cost as multiplier (1.5rm in 1995 for a plate vs 8rm now), that is like having 5 million now.
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1995 fresh grad already 1500?

then now we know another reason for those started working back then is no salary growth because 2005 fresh grad still got offered 1500
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post Dec 27 2024, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:23 PM)
1995 fresh grad already 1500?

then now we know another reason for those started working back then is no salary growth because 2005 fresh grad still got offered 1500
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yeah, there were practically no salary growth from 1995 to 2005... heck, even until 2010.

2005 fresh grad maybe get closer to 2K, but I won't be surprised if 1.5K is being offered by some firms.

2010 fresh grad at my former company was getting between 2 to 2.5K rm. (this I can 100% confirm cos I was a hiring manager and I had to write a long story and get my boss to support me in paying one of my hire 2.5K, even though HR told me the range was 2 to 2.5K rm).

I wonder how much a fresh grad can get on average nowadays?


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post Dec 27 2024, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:29 PM)
yeah, there were practically no salary growth from 1995 to 2005... heck, even until 2010.

2005 fresh grad maybe get closer to 2K, but I won't be surprised if 1.5K is being offered by some firms.

2010 fresh grad at my former company was getting between 2 to 2.5K rm. (this I can 100% confirm cos I was a hiring manager and I had to write a long story and get my boss to support me in paying one of my hire 2.5K, even though HR told me the range was 2 to 2.5K rm).

I wonder how much a fresh grad can get on average nowadays?
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Exactly

Now? Dont be surprised still got 2500 one

But generally 3k plus or even 4k if big co or MNC is a norm

because like audit which high OT is expected once cross 4k line cant claim. but dont expect those small ones other than Big 4 to pay that amount. how they handle the OT part... I am not 100% sure but been in corporate before can agak the trick those bloodsuckers will pull
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Dec 27 2024, 10:16 AM)
I can see parents paying for education, but why house and loan? Even if rich, it makes sense you get these at your own pace as you work. Parents who get this stuff for their kids, are just spoiling their kids and setting them up for failure. I know too many people, parents buy for them Yaris ke Myvi or something. Fully paid
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My parent never support me for car and didn't want to financially support me anymore after i started working, at first i was unhappy, but i appreciated their decisions now. They made me a stronger person who know i could only rely on myself instead of kept dreaming to get helps from someone else.

Life isn't easy, i went thru a situation for a long time that every night i slept only 1-2 hour and would suddenly woke up, felt like i never slept, and my head was full of my FK-ing boss' face and his FK-ing attitude toward me, but couldn't escape due to car / house loans. Luckily i didn't felt into depression, and I survived.

QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:29 PM)
yeah, there were practically no salary growth from 1995 to 2005... heck, even until 2010.

2005 fresh grad maybe get closer to 2K, but I won't be surprised if 1.5K is being offered by some firms.

2010 fresh grad at my former company was getting between 2 to 2.5K rm. (this I can 100% confirm cos I was a hiring manager and I had to write a long story and get my boss to support me in paying one of my hire 2.5K, even though HR told me the range was 2 to 2.5K rm).

I wonder how much a fresh grad can get on average nowadays?
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2002, that time IT field was offering around 1.5-1.8k. Had a friend was offered 2.2k working in a bank as a programmer, i think his case is quite rare as i heard most getting 1.5-1.8k. Banks were treated as high-class working companies that time, and it was very hard to get hired by banks.

As for those not graduated from degree, i know many of them only getting rm 800-1k, as a clerk, as sales person, etc, some slightly higher but mostly lower than rm 1.5k. If working at non-KL areas, even lower.

This post has been edited by HolyCooler: Dec 28 2024, 04:34 AM
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post Dec 28 2024, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Dec 27 2024, 04:59 PM)
Not everyone is fortunate to keep EPF without withdrawal till age 65 years. especially during MCO. if no withdrawal , i ady eat grass.

ok la. back to the the thread.

so guys, how much your net worth?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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This is why having a separate emergency savings fund is a must.

I found myself unemployed back in 2020. But I had emergency savings to cover 18 months of expenses.

Lucky I was able to find a job after 8 months (had to accept a big paycut). There was also the loan moratorium. Also I did some part time jobs that cover some expenses as well.

It was fine and I didnt have to withdraw Epf at all. I also didnt touch my DIY investment portfolio and was able to profit from the big bull market that follows.


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post Dec 28 2024, 03:23 PM

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My starting pay was 900+150 in 1993 if that is any consolation. The norm was like 2k for big 5 those days. Local fresh grad also get about same.. maybe 100 lesser.
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:50 PM)
Exactly

Now? Dont be surprised still got 2500 one

But generally 3k plus or even 4k if big co or MNC is a norm

because like audit which high OT is expected once cross 4k line cant claim. but dont expect those small ones other than Big 4 to pay that amount. how they handle the OT part... I am not 100% sure but been in corporate before can agak the trick those bloodsuckers will pull
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hearsay big 4 now minimum 4k
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post Dec 29 2024, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(wawasan2200 @ Dec 28 2024, 11:38 PM)
hearsay big 4 now minimum 4k
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imagine SG also minimum 4k.
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QUOTE(skty @ Dec 29 2024, 01:17 AM)
imagine SG also minimum 4k.
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it should be nowadays right?

pre-covid also I know banks in SG were offering very close to 4K as starting pay for uni grad.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 29 2024, 12:58 PM)
it should be nowadays right?

pre-covid also I know banks in SG were offering very close to 4K as starting pay for uni grad.
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depends on sector.

some less some more.

average is around 3.5k.
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QUOTE(wawasan2200 @ Dec 28 2024, 11:38 PM)
hearsay big 4 now minimum 4k
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It is nothing compared to the hours they need to put in

If divide with total hours worked most probably way lesser compare to F&B

But I know lar, ppl will say it is the future $$$ they are looking it
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Curious where you all investing your money in right now? Last time have been consistently putting in S&P500, but lately a bit hesitant, as it is around ATH.
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QUOTE(turtle_onrage @ Feb 22 2025, 12:45 AM)
Curious where you all investing your money in right now? Last time have been consistently putting in S&P500, but lately a bit hesitant, as it is around ATH.
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S&P 500 is for long term, why worry about ATH?
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QUOTE(turtle_onrage @ Feb 22 2025, 12:45 AM)
Curious where you all investing your money in right now? Last time have been consistently putting in S&P500, but lately a bit hesitant, as it is around ATH.
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Mainly in stocks, approximately Malaysia 40%, SG 20% US 18%, HK 17%, Indo 2% and Philipine 3%.
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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Feb 22 2025, 11:26 AM)
Mainly in stocks, approximately Malaysia 40%, SG 20% US 18%, HK 17%, Indo 2% and Philipine 3%.
Stock:Managed Fund:Cash ratio = 10:5:1
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Do you have a specific strategy for Malaysia stock? Like focus on steady growth stock vs small cap stock vs dividend stock

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