QUOTE(Rinth @ Aug 30 2024, 12:36 PM)
oh sorry, then his allocation must have changed by now. thanks for picking this up.This post has been edited by gashout: Aug 30 2024, 12:41 PM
How much is your net worth?, gauging your financial performance.
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Aug 30 2024, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 30 2024, 08:23 AM) what % of saving do you mean when it comes to sacrifices. As much as possible. I usually maintain 50% savings rate as minimum. My usual is around 70%.again, i say saving a lot is good, make sure not to eat white rice and soy sauce every day only, for the sake of FIRE. still maintain some things in life that you enjoy doing. Building wealth will always require the active income to do the heavy lifting initially before the passive income can do it's lifting. There is no way around it. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Aug 30 2024, 03:46 PM Gwynbleidd, TOS, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Aug 30 2024, 11:12 AM) At your age, you should be planning on how to spend it, buying experiences, holidays and having all the best things in life (which I have no doubt you already have most of, that the rest of us can only dream of That’s most kind of you to say that, much appreciated. I agree with wha you said in the last line wholeheartedlyNo point investing and accumulating too much excessive wealth which one can't carry forward to the next life. All the best, doc |
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 30 2024, 03:45 PM) As much as possible. I usually maintain 50% savings rate as minimum. My usual is around 70%. I’ve come to a point where our annual passive returns have exceeded our usual annual expenditure with excess to spare. Building wealth will always require the active income to do the heavy lifting initially before the passive income can do it's lifting. There is no way around it. But old habits die hard. We got here by being prudent, chronic savers, blessed with outsized incomes. Wealth didn’t land on our laps, but was earned by hard work and long hours. Hard to shake those habits off… gashout and romuluz777 liked this post
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Aug 30 2024, 06:19 PM) I’ve come to a point where our annual passive returns have exceeded our usual annual expenditure with excess to spare. Need to tell that to all the girls i date with... But old habits die hard. We got here by being prudent, chronic savers, blessed with outsized incomes. Wealth didn’t land on our laps, but was earned by hard work and long hours. Hard to shake those habits off… hksgmy liked this post
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QUOTE(TOS @ Aug 30 2024, 06:22 PM) They will said need to experience life. It is worth to chase it.😁 !@#$%^ liked this post
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Aug 30 2024, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Aug 30 2024, 06:22 PM) I am telling that to all girls I meet. QUOTE(sjteh @ Aug 30 2024, 09:57 PM) So true. They are not ready to sacrifice their life. So I just move on or they tell me, we are not compatible. TOS liked this post
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 30 2024, 03:45 PM) As much as possible. I usually maintain 50% savings rate as minimum. My usual is around 70%. yes, mine is around 70% currently. leaving me with a few hundreds to enjoy life every month. Building wealth will always require the active income to do the heavy lifting initially before the passive income can do it's lifting. There is no way around it. i don't demand much in life, even a curry puff, char kuey teow makes me happy... simple life, happy life... QUOTE(TOS @ Aug 30 2024, 06:22 PM) aduh. a couple should have similar mindset in terms of:religion finance kids those girls want instant gratification, you want delayed gratification, it won't work |
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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 30 2024, 10:31 AM) Like someone I know, suddenly passaway when go swimming. Couldn't enjoy the wealth he has accumulated. sorry but I don't really agree that everyone should think this way.if everyone thinks that way, then a child wouldn't want to study because he thinks he will die tomorrow and want to enjoy playing only today. the keyword is know your FIRE target and just delay gratification until you achieve the target. FIRE requirement for everyone is different based on the lifestyle they want. Delay gratification is not asking you to scarifies your health and happiness in life but understands that you need to make a decision whether to enjoy those "nice to have" for a short period now and suffer later for a long period or vise versa. adele123 and wongmunkeong liked this post
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Aug 31 2024, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(skty @ Aug 31 2024, 06:52 AM) sorry but I don't really agree that everyone should think this way. the key is balance. either extreme end might not be the best. some things are meant to enjoy when we are young. when we are older, perhaps other things to enjoy.if everyone thinks that way, then a child wouldn't want to study because he thinks he will die tomorrow and want to enjoy playing only today. the keyword is know your FIRE target and just delay gratification until you achieve the target. FIRE requirement for everyone is different based on the lifestyle they want. Delay gratification is not asking you to scarifies your health and happiness in life but understands that you need to make a decision whether to enjoy those "nice to have" for a short period now and suffer later for a long period or vise versa. |
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Sep 1 2024, 12:30 PM) the key is balance. either extreme end might not be the best. some things are meant to enjoy when we are young. when we are older, perhaps other things to enjoy. I second the balance approach.I see life like a long road trip. You want the whole trip to be enjoyable. Its bad if the first half is enjoyable only for second half to be miserable. But also doesnt make sense to intentionally make the 1st half to be miserable, to ensure a nice second half. Tldr, do save and invest, but dont be so stingy. Its ok to spend on yourself and your loved ones. |
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 26 2024, 05:38 PM) the real rich don't need to flaunt their wealth... they keep and growing wealth. Only the "fake-it-till-they-make it" Just came across this post, to be honest, i used to think like that, but after involved in car accidents, i changed my mind now. Car is a Liability Car is not only a transport tool, but it is a life-saving tool too. Imagine accident happens and imagine the differences if you are in a Mercesdes/BMW/Volvo (newer cars are super keras nowadays) compare to a myvi/local cars/vios/city? It makes huge difference, really huge difference. Cheaper cars can be destroyed easily, and those luxury cars probably still in a situation that only suffer a minor/medium damages. Btw, congrat to all the guys who built lots of networth! This post has been edited by HolyCooler: Sep 2 2024, 01:01 PM |
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Sep 2 2024, 12:59 PM) Just came across this post, to be honest, i used to think like that, but after involved in car accidents, i changed my mind now. Seconded that.Car is not only a transport tool, but it is a life-saving tool too. Imagine accident happens and imagine the differences if you are in a Mercesdes/BMW/Volvo (newer cars are super keras nowadays) compare to a myvi/local cars/vios/city? It makes huge difference, really huge difference. Cheaper cars can be destroyed easily, and those luxury cars probably still in a situation that only suffer a minor/medium damages. Btw, congrat to all the guys who built lots of networth! It's so true that the pillars frame of the vehicle can save life HolyCooler liked this post
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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ Sep 2 2024, 12:59 PM) Just came across this post, to be honest, i used to think like that, but after involved in car accidents, i changed my mind now. There's a lot of things that I feel people are penny-wise, pound foolish. A car is one of them. Is it a liability, financial wise? Yes.Car is not only a transport tool, but it is a life-saving tool too. Imagine accident happens and imagine the differences if you are in a Mercesdes/BMW/Volvo (newer cars are super keras nowadays) compare to a myvi/local cars/vios/city? It makes huge difference, really huge difference. Cheaper cars can be destroyed easily, and those luxury cars probably still in a situation that only suffer a minor/medium damages. Btw, congrat to all the guys who built lots of networth! But given the average person would spend 1-2hrs a day travelling on car, which is around one month of the year in total just sitting in a car, in a jam, driving mindlessly to work, to travel, etc.. So, why wouldn't you want to be comfortable and happy with that otherwise miserable experience? What I do agree on, is there is a diminishing return on money spent on cars. Safety wise, some of our local cars are almost on par with the conti's, we can also look to ANCAP rating as a guide on what they have and don't. The rest are more towards comfort level, noise level etc but I genuinely doubt a BMW is 3x better than say X70, even though thats the price diffentiation. Secondly, 60% of road fatalities are motorcyclist, so I'd always say even a Kancil is better than a 2 wheeler to increase your survival chances in accident. Another two big contributors to accidents are drunk driving and that only 48 per cent of Malaysians were recorded to have worn their seatbelts. All these are totally preventable and it doesn't matter what car one drives. Another thing is mattress / pillows. We spend 6-8hours daily sleeping, but don't want to spend money on a good mattress, rather change the cheapo one every year or two when it kemek and your backpain. A good mattress last you 15-20 years, and prevent you from body aches or bad sleep. Penny wise, pound foolish. Last one is having comfort in spending on enriching experiences. Keep all the money to retire and do what if your body and mind can't enable you to experience things you should have done when you are younger like trying out new food, new places, meet new people, play new sport, etc etc |
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