In this case it's very probable the PS did not make the cut as she had high UKCAT scores. No mentions of interviews as well.

This post has been edited by podrunner: May 27 2012, 03:27 PM

We can only speculate as any feedback will not pinpoint area of weakness as they would indicate only very competitive and better applicants.

Update on 2013 internship situation in NSW:

AMC graduates will no longer be considered for internships in NSW (an Australian first)

Priority list for 2013:

Category 1
Australian Citizens and Permanent Residents
1.1 Guaranteed
Commonwealth Supported Place (CSP) and domestic full fee paying graduates who graduated from a NSW university
1.2
Commonwealth Supported Place (CSP) and domestic full fee paying graduates from an interstate or New Zealand university who completed Year 12 studies in NSW
1.3
CSP graduates and domestic full fee medical graduates of interstate or New Zealand universities
Category 2
New Zealand Citizens
2.1
Graduates of New Zealand universities resident in New Zealand
Category 3
Non-Permanent Residents
3.1
Graduates of NSW universities
3.2
Graduates of interstate and New Zealand universities
3.3
Graduates of university campuses accredited by the Australian Medical Council outside of Australia and New Zealand

*I'm pretty sure 3.3 refers to Monash Sunway (again, first in Australia to distinguish between Sunway and Clayton graduates)

Here's what the Health Education and Training Institute has to say:

"Although it's difficult to predict the number of interstate applicants, HETI is aware of an increase in the overall number of medical students graduating in NSW this year and therefore would like to advise all applicants, that it is highly unlikely that all applicants in category 3 of the NSW Health priority list will receive an offer of internship for the NSW 2013 clinical year."

thanks for the heads up....

has there been any change for the other states as well?.....

Er... Please note that for NSW Internship 2012, AMC graduates were not considered for internships.
And please look at SAIMET (south australia), they are also distinguishing between Sunway and Clayton Campus.
Also Western Australia, they are seperating NZ and Aus international grads, too, things are changing to the worse.

I think this is only expected and will probably be the policy adopted across all the states. It only makes sense to give priority to those who clinically trained in Australia. So 2013 is not looking great for internationals wanting internship places.

i think the lowering of entry criteria in sunway may have something to do with this as well....

Ok, I stand corrected on the NSW statement and yes, things are looking rather gloomy for international students, especially those in NSW and Queensland.

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Added on May 28, 2012, 2:04 amI'm surprised Australian citizens or permanent residents haven't tried to "back-door" through Monash Sunway, since it has the lowest entry requirement for an AMC accredited degree. It'd be interesting if they did though, seeing how they are not currently classified under any priority list. For instance - a Malaysian with Australian permanent residency, completes high school in Australia, fails to gain entry into an Australian medical school but is subsequently accepted into Monash Sunway...



This post has been edited by Huskies: May 28 2012, 02:04 AM

there may be a rule against oz citizens and prs taking the course at sunway......

for imu, they are prohibited from matching to oz/nz.........

It will be interesting to also know what happens to UK residents and Singaporeans medical students when they graduate from Sunway Monash. I know there are some in the second year.

smc does not recognise monash sunway mbbs, so sporeans will not be able to practice in spore....

gmc also does not recognise, so the uk residents will either practice in their country of citizenship (i presume mostly msia), or sit for the plab......

Interesting, because Monash Sunway is significantly cheaper even for a domestic full fee paying student - there's nothing written on the application form which specifically prohibits Australian citizens and PRs from applying to Monash Sunway. And besides, a Malaysian can always choose to conceal his or her PR status...

it is not possible for prs to conceal their pr status in imu, because on successful matching, they will need to apply for a student visa, and it will be revealed in the diac database.....

similarly, for monash, when they do the compulsory attachment in oz, processing of visa application will reveal the pr status.....

of course, they can request cancellation of their pr visa anytime (i know people who allow their pr visas to lapse because of this).....but that will then make them non residents.....

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"AMSA president James Churchill said reports released last week by the Postgraduate Medical Council of Victoria and the NSW Health Education and Training Institute had allowed AMSA to calculate there would be a shortfall of 146 internships in NSW and 169 in Victoria."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-a...w-1226370444833

Looks like NSW and Victoria are the first states to bite the dust - international students graduating this year to be the first "casualties" of the medical student tsunami.

Doesn't look like AMSA has managed to push anything through this year. It will be interesting to know where the 315 will be eventually placed.

Is it not their policy to ensure that existing undergraduates are "guaranteed" internships upon graduation and any change in policy should be highlighted before the next batch of first year students begins?

What happens in the past will presume to happen in the future unless notified accordingly.

In this respect, I think bolehland is better, internship is guaranteed though not in the way it use to be.

Considering most international students in Qld, Vic and NSW are from North America, I'd assume they have a back-up plan in the form of the USMLE - as for Malaysians and Singaporeans, the MOHH is doing a recruitment drive in July: http://www.physician.mohh.com.sg/aus_recruitment.html

Until Singapore meet it's target, at least malaysians have a back up plan. I think the majority of malaysian med grads in australia will not be looking to come back to malaysia for housemanship, since there will be a supply excess very soon.

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Added on May 29, 2012, 6:15 pmIn Australia, the domestics are guaranteed of internships. The concerns here are those pertaining to international students only, who are placed in the lowest priority for placements.

It's seldom a good idea to compare bolehland with others.

Bolehland is just too "unique".

This post has been edited by podrunner: May 29 2012, 06:16 PM

More statistics courtesy of AMSA:

2012 expected internship shortage by state:

NSW: 146

QLD: 110

VIC: 169

SA: TBC, likely to be ~40

TAS: 50

WA: 28

ACT: TBC, likely to be a shortage

NT: -39, no medical school there

Total shortage: 464

http://www.amsa.org.au/internship-crisis

And it's not even the peak of the "tsunami" - 2013 will see an additional 300-400 graduates nationwide.

At this point, it's safe to say that AMC and maybe Monash Sunway graduates have almost zero chance of getting an internship in Australia since the quoted number of 464 does not even include them.

This post has been edited by Huskies: May 30 2012, 09:27 AM