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limeuu
post Mar 24 2012, 12:45 AM

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traditionally, since the grave diggers and body snatchers days of the 18th century Scotland, anatomy is taught through the dissection of cadavers....

however, in recent times, cadavers have become difficult to find, and newer visual technology allows effective teaching of anatomy without physical cadavers....and many medical schools have moved towards such simulations.....

there has not been any difference in anatomy learning and knowledge with this change...

in recent years, there is also a move towards scaled down anatomy syllabus....the argument is, the majority of doctors need not have in-depth knowledge and familiarity with detailed anatomy....and those that do, can learn it when they are doing their postgraduate training....

sydney uni is trying out this new syllabus......not everybody agrees with this of course....

there is precedent in focused medical training....the us style residency (specialist) training has this focus method for years....us graduates specialise from internship, and while they are very good in their area, they are relatively weak in all other areas.....it works fine in their system.....the contrast is of course the broad based british system....where everybody is a broad generalist...before specialising down into a speciality.....

the question of whether a medical school uses cadavers or not, therefore, is of little importance....
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post Mar 24 2012, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(ltvl0929 @ Mar 23 2012, 08:58 PM)
Wow. Ok. Haha. Are you a medicine student now? Between, I'm applying for hospital attachment now, thinking of which government hospital to go to. Haha.
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post Mar 24 2012, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(arsengal @ Mar 22 2012, 05:46 PM)
I did A-Levels with UCSI and I'm guaranteed a place with UCSI med school provided I didn't do something stupid during the interview in the upcoming month. Sorry I didn't state this earlier. But I'm also considering for Taylors or IMU. But practically my sponsor won't let me transfer to IMU unless I have a very strong reason for it, mostly because IMU costs a lot more.
Haha I have evidences to support that  smile.gif
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are the one of the 3A*s scorers for the 2012 listed below?
http://www.ucsi.edu.my/v2/alevel/news/adve...alvels_SUNx.pdf
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post Mar 24 2012, 09:40 PM

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Hey guys, do you know what price roughly Kamal is selling Talley and O'Connor Clinical Examination 6th edn?
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post Mar 25 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Crypt @ Mar 23 2012, 10:40 PM)
I know. Some student actually express this exact statement. But the only country I know which have many supply of cadaver is India. Then again, I think many countries in the world (UK,USA,Singapore, etc.) dont have access to cadaver but they produce world class graduate. But Im not saying like we are good or anything as you guys probably have an advantage smile.gif

But I'm hoping the hospital will allowed access of medical student in mortuary (3rd-5th year) so at least we can prepare ourself early.
I think there is only 60 of us as there is no advertisement etc. for our university last year. There is no JPA student in our batch yet.

From what I heard, there is more student coming next year. Anyway, our university have open day around February so if you have time you can visit us and talk personally to student around the campus. This year there is a lot of person with SPM visting and many ask about medicine and stuff that we do.
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I see. I'll be visiting NUMed someday as well. =)

QUOTE(whyyyyy @ Mar 23 2012, 11:31 PM)
regarding the research u doing,how u approach the people in charge?

if the research get published,do u hav the chance to be listed as author or contributor?


Added on March 23, 2012, 11:34 pm

all ireland uni use cadevar as well
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What I meant with 'research' is to look for universities and understand more from there. Not that research.
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post Mar 26 2012, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 24 2012, 06:14 PM)
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are the one of the 3A*s scorers for the 2012 listed below?
http://www.ucsi.edu.my/v2/alevel/news/adve...alvels_SUNx.pdf
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I didn't get a 3A* though, but yeah I'm one of those in there.
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Oh.. lookie here! a medical students thread! didnt notice this thread when i was a medical student.. sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(arsengal @ Mar 26 2012, 12:40 AM)
I didn't get a 3A* though, but yeah I'm one of those in there.
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There goes your strong reason for an upgrade.
If you still score straight As, JPA's up coming interview will just be a formality.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 26 2012, 06:40 AM)
There goes your strong reason for an upgrade.
If you still score straight As, JPA's up coming interview will just be a formality.
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The interview is with UCSI, not JPA.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 26 2012, 08:40 AM)
The interview is with UCSI, not JPA.
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If scored 3 A's, UCSI going to say NO to JPA scholar? whistling.gif
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post Mar 26 2012, 09:08 AM

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the interview is with the uni.....

normally, when one makes a mistake, one just apologise, and not go dig a deeper grave for oneself.....

foreign 1st world med schools turn down scholars ALL the time....some ipts, eg imu, have turned down scholars who failed to make cut offs.,,,,,and dismiss some who flunk out.....
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 26 2012, 08:53 AM)
If scored 3 A's, UCSI going to say NO to JPA scholar? whistling.gif
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What's so great about JPA scholar anyway? They can easily be replaced by their foundation students and their own A level students now. UCSI are now at the stage where they can say no.
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post Mar 26 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 26 2012, 09:51 AM)
What's so great about JPA scholar anyway?
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Not the creme de la creme for a long while now, just full cream milk perhaps. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 26 2012, 09:51 AM)
What's so great about JPA scholar anyway? They can easily be replaced by their foundation students and their own A level students now. UCSI are now at the stage where they can say no.
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If both of the same kind, any uni will go for one financially stronger with big bucks.

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Good grades are definitely not the sole determining factor when a medical school chooses its students. In fact it is now an expectation. Many applicants have perfect scores like triple A*s, ATARs of >99 etc however they may not get an offer unless they have proved themselves to be competent communicators in their interviews.

Communication skills, critical thinking and empathy are very important in the medical profession and are aspects of humanity that are developed over time. Interviewers will want so see that you have attained this mental and emotional maturity. Performance at the interview is definitely more important as on paper everyone's grades are all similarly excellent. In fact the medical school may choose to offer people who got slightly lower scores but performed much better at the interview!
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QUOTE(DoubleU @ Mar 24 2012, 09:40 PM)
Hey guys, do you know what price roughly Kamal is selling Talley and O'Connor Clinical Examination 6th edn?
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RM75 if bulk. Emomedical.com is selling at RM80 (RM70+RM10) shipping.

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post Mar 26 2012, 06:05 PM

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@sydG, thanks.

U're at Usyd now right? How's things for you?
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(DoubleU @ Mar 26 2012, 06:05 PM)
@sydG, thanks. 

U're at Usyd now right? How's things for you?
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Ha.. I wish laugh.gif

I'm in Sunway smile.gif


Added on March 26, 2012, 6:19 pmTo answer 'how's things are for you' part, I'm enjoying the course tremendously. Didnt know med school can be pretty tough and fun at the same time smile.gif

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post Mar 26 2012, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 26 2012, 06:17 PM)
Ha.. I wish laugh.gif

I'm in Sunway smile.gif


Added on March 26, 2012, 6:19 pmTo answer 'how's things are for you' part, I'm enjoying the course tremendously. Didnt know med school can be pretty tough and fun at the same time smile.gif
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You guys due for a mid-semester exam next week?
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Yes sir. But I look forward to the case commentary assignment more smile.gif

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