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post Oct 27 2011, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(alexjichien @ Oct 27 2011, 05:58 PM)
Try this site " medstudentsonline" . Search for forum threads on the Monash interviews. There's lots of useful information shared by Aussie students, found it very helpful myself 2 years ago.
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Yes. Any idea if the scenarios given in the interviews are the same for locals and international students? For the locals, they have 8 stations, but only 2 for internationals if I understand correctly.

@cckpr, some issues centre on ethics etc, I think they are looking at how the applicant process his/her thoughts.
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post Oct 27 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 27 2011, 10:18 AM)
if these postings are part of the course, it is the duty of the med school to arrange for it, and assign accordingly....otherwise, they are failing in their duties...

if it is however, not part of the official postings, and is like an elective, then you will have to arrange it yourself....

family/primary health means different things in different countries.....in uk/oz, that means gp's......in msia, where a big portion of primary healthcare is provided by the public sector, it can mean one of the gov walk-in polyclinics.....

however, it is quite different, the way things are done in a gp clinic compared to a gov clinic, so exposure to both is useful, and i know some ipta that includes both in their rotations....
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When I saw family medicine, I was thinking of primary care actually. Is family medicine different to primary care/GP postings?

QUOTE(cckkpr @ Oct 27 2011, 04:57 PM)
Sunway Monash also does such interview and they asked question on what you know abt diabetes. Is it too technical for a potential student or they are looking for other positive factors?


Added on October 27, 2011, 5:00 pm

Sunway Monash also does such interview and they asked question on what you know about diabetes. Is it too technical for a potential student or they are looking for other positive factors?
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Don't think they require you to illustrate details of the disease, probably just testing your current understanding of the issue, like: "it's on the rise" and ways to prevent such trend to progress out of hand.
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post Oct 28 2011, 05:41 PM

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quite a good read here

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post Oct 28 2011, 07:05 PM

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vested interests out to make money.....and the biggest one yet is the new perdana uni.....almost all the students are gov sponsored, and the fees are 2-3 times other ipts.....ie your and my tax money officially transferred to the owners of perdana uni......

medical education...and eventually healthcare (guess who's the biggest owner of private healthcare in msia now...) all used to make money for cronies......

however, i disagree that the dpm is a clown.....see my comments a couple of pages earlier....he know full well the implications, and i am sure he benefits from all this in some way.....

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I'm pretty sure he's rather smart in raking the dough in. Well, he seems to be doing a good job at the moment in doing so =P

Is East Malaysia overcrowded with interns/med grads as well at the moment or in the near future? Or is that just a trend in W.Msia cos they don't wanna come to Sarawak/Sabah?

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Accepted for IMU-Local Feb 2012 intake. I'm so excited ! smile.gif
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post Nov 1 2011, 10:09 AM

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Hi all, again I'm back to the crossroads of choosing my PMS School. But this times it's between Aus and US. Yes I know generally how the system in both countries work, and I think I'm fine with both of the countries, so I think that the only clincher this time is "Chances of getting into specialty training", since that's my priority for now.

1) What I heard from is that US is based on meritocracy(I.e USMLE Scores), if you're good, then you're good. No difference between Asian, American,Australian etc. Excepte the difference between IMGs, local US graduates vs Canadian graduates. I mean, that definitely sounds tempting and I've heard of a substantial number of Alumni who went into competitive residencies so I guess it's a valid statement.

2) On the other hand, what I heard about Aus is that, yes ethnicity DOES play a major role in application for specialty. If you're disadvantaged on that aspect, pray that there'll be a vacancy for the particular specialists. Otherwise, chances of getting into a competitive specialty is extremely low. I don't really have any examples to proofed or argue against this statement, perhaps anyone can share your opinion about this?

Sincerely, thanks.

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QUOTE(mirandaklum @ Oct 31 2011, 10:22 PM)
Accepted for IMU-Local Feb 2012 intake. I'm so excited ! smile.gif
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Get 'excited' during exams...
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post Nov 1 2011, 11:10 AM

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the biggest problem with postgraduate in oz, compared to the us, is the number of positions available....remember, the population of the us is 300 million, 15 times that of oz....

the us system is a more open system, with little control of how many residencies jobs there are....

the oz system is a very closed system, with the number of training positions closely controlled by the respective speciality bodies, who acts like trade unions, keeping specialists relatively short so there is excess and no downward pressure on salaries......but once you are in, you are set for life..... smile.gif

ethnicity does NOT officially have a part to play...both in us and oz.....it would be illegal....

unlike some other countries...... smile.gif

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post Nov 1 2011, 12:21 PM

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Hi limeuu, thanks for you're reply. I just have some more doubts about oz. Yea I guess it's not fair to say that Ethnicity plays an official part, but what I heard is that ethnicity, or perhaps nationality seems to have a greater influence in oz? As compared to US where the match depends more on the USMLE Scores and the difference between local graduates(independent of nationality) vs IMGs.

Can I extrapolate from your statement about Open vs Closed system that US has more residencies available each year, therefore a better chance of getting into one?

So about the closed system in oz, does it mean that the specialty trainings offered each year directly depends on how much is the demand for a particular specialty? It seems that the availability is quite limited.
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barriers are usually perceived when you are outside the system...once you are in the system (ie have residency rights in both countries), you will then just compete like everybody else....whether you are born citizen, naturalised citizen, or permanent resident, it does NOT matter, in these countries......after all, both country have 20-30% of their people NOT born in the country.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 1 2011, 12:47 PM)
yes
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barriers are usually perceived when you are outside the system...once you are in the system (ie have residency rights in both countries), you will then just compete like everybody else....whether you are born citizen, naturalised citizen, or permanent resident, it does NOT matter, in these countries......after all, both country have 20-30% of their people NOT born in the country.....
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I have always thought that priority is given to locals rather than international students. Hope that's not the case. Still contemplating whether to take a year of research since my course is a 5 year course. They say that those with published papers holds a better chance of getting into highly competitive fields such as cardiology and ortho. Again, not entirely sure whether the source is reliable or not.
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QUOTE(Medico @ Nov 1 2011, 03:09 PM)
Hi all, again I'm back to the crossroads of choosing my PMS School. But this times it's between Aus and US. Yes I know generally how the system in both countries work, and I think I'm fine with both of the countries, so I think that the only clincher this time is "Chances of getting into specialty training", since that's my priority for now.

1) What I heard from is that US is based on meritocracy(I.e USMLE Scores), if you're good, then you're good. No difference between Asian, American,Australian etc. Excepte the difference between IMGs, local US graduates vs Canadian graduates. I mean, that definitely sounds tempting and I've heard of a substantial number of Alumni who went into competitive residencies so I guess it's a valid statement.

2) On the other hand, what I heard about Aus is that, yes ethnicity DOES play a major role in application for specialty. If you're disadvantaged on that aspect, pray that there'll be a vacancy for the particular specialists. Otherwise, chances of getting into a competitive specialty is extremely low. I don't really have any examples to proofed or argue against this statement, perhaps anyone can share your opinion about this?

Sincerely, thanks.
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Speaking as a senior, I regret not going to TJU cause I was too lazy to study for another exam. And heck, now I have to work so hard to get INTO a training, while my counterparts in the US are already in the training program.

For competitive specialties like surgeries, it saves up at least 3-4 years (waiting time and training time). Of course, be ready to work your ass off in the States.
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Thank you limeuu and tqeh for your honest inputs. Hey tqeh, may I know which country you're in now? I know the wait must be very frustrating but all the best to you!
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post Nov 2 2011, 01:28 PM

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Gee, the reports on the number of trained doctors being churned out every year changes all the time. While 4500 was the commonly known figure, this report says "4000" in 5 years time. I was under the impression it's 7000 then!

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QUOTE(Makira @ Nov 1 2011, 10:25 AM)
Get 'excited' during exams...
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huh?
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post Nov 2 2011, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(kane_WWE_07 @ Nov 2 2011, 01:39 PM)
huh?
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he's trying to say "have fun during the exam period."
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post Nov 6 2011, 04:56 PM

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Anyone here with any experience with applications to Irish unis (Cork or Trinity)? Are there additional tests to be taken (like UKCAT) for international applicants?
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QUOTE(D_s_X @ Oct 18 2011, 07:06 PM)
From what I have read, there are a few people who got conditional offers for UTAS '16. If anyone needs help (information etc.) I'm sure onelove as well as I would be happy to explain a little further. Please pardon that there might be late replies though, exams.
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as an update, i have been made to understand those with conditional offers from utas, the condition is atar95 minimum....so i suspect most will get converted into firm offers by mid december.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Nov 6 2011, 08:22 PM)
as an update, i have been made to understand those with conditional offers from utas, the condition is atar95 minimum....so i suspect most will get converted into firm offers by mid december.....
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Absolutely right. Now it's the internship uncertainty!


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