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sotong1992
post Aug 26 2011, 11:31 PM

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Freezing new medical schools but increasing medical students each intake......nonsense.

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post Aug 27 2011, 10:59 AM

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It should be the established medical colleges that should be allowed to increase the intake but here even segi can fill up their quota much faster than the established ones. No better than those of Ukraine or Russia or Indonesia.
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post Aug 27 2011, 02:34 PM

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Today my friend just told me that medicine can earn big bucks, thats why he choose medicine.

SIGH.................
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post Aug 27 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Aug 27 2011, 02:34 PM)
Today my friend just told me that medicine can earn big bucks, thats why he choose medicine.

SIGH.................
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In the old days,yes
Now It's impossible, I'm sure you notice the trend these days.Saturation of professional jobs
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post Aug 27 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ Aug 27 2011, 02:44 PM)
In the old days,yes
Now It's impossible, I'm sure you notice the trend these days.Saturation of professional jobs
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Nurses, pilots, even teachers are jobless. KPLI holders wait for two months but still no news.
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post Aug 27 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Aug 27 2011, 02:34 PM)
Today my friend just told me that medicine can earn big bucks, thats why he choose medicine.

SIGH.................
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post Aug 27 2011, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(freezadwar @ Aug 27 2011, 02:58 PM)
not to forget the status also tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2011, 07:23 PM

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Everybody seems to be looking at status and monies. If you dont have the passion, spare a thought for the patient and choose another profession.
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post Aug 27 2011, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Aug 27 2011, 07:23 PM)
Everybody seems to be looking at status and monies. If you dont have the passion, spare a thought for the patient and choose another profession.
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oh, they have the passion......it's the one thing they use to justify their lack of academic ability......

passion for the status, money, 'prestige' etc..... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 27 2011, 10:37 PM

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LOL! So medical students in all the medical schools in the country can no longer be considered the creme de la creme, but they're passionate. Hopefully the passion translates into actual medical knowledge and experience when they graduate.
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post Aug 27 2011, 10:43 PM

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Hopefully.
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post Aug 28 2011, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(windz93a @ Aug 27 2011, 10:37 PM)
LOL! So medical students in all the medical schools in the country can no longer be considered the creme de la creme, but they're passionate.
the problem is, the creme de la creme are still there.....but contaminated by a lot of sediments......and it becomes difficult to differentiate........

the med school they come from will tell.....it is still safe to assume all from places like uk, oz, spore, ipta (stpm route) will be indeed the top students of their time.....

for the others.......their spm results will be telling...... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 28 2011, 09:22 AM

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Sorry for interrupting the bashing, I'm a new medical student here from one of the IPTS. (hopefully I'm not the one being referred to here :S)

Anyway, any pro-tip on how the amount of stationary I should be hoarding? Planning to get 5 A4 size-note from bookstore ,should that be enough? Any other stationary stuff that is useful (index card etc.)?

Btw, on this issue, being a local IPTS student, how 'bad' are the standard are? Does it really bad compare to prominent grads such in UK in term of their surgery/diagnostic skill?
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QUOTE(fastimes @ Aug 28 2011, 09:22 AM)
Sorry for interrupting the bashing, I'm a new medical student here from one of the IPTS. (hopefully I'm not the one being referred to here :S)

Anyway, any pro-tip on how the amount of stationary I should be hoarding? Planning to get 5 A4 size-note from bookstore ,should that be enough? Any other stationary stuff that is useful (index card etc.)?

Btw, on this issue, being a local IPTS student, how 'bad' are the standard are? Does it really bad compare to prominent grads such in UK in term of their surgery/diagnostic skill?
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post Aug 28 2011, 10:19 AM

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So I presume it more like a percentage game where outside grads are generally more capable than local ones? Any examples of situation where their incompetence are more prevalent?

Btw, still need advice on stationary and other necessity I should bring to my dorm smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2011, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Aug 28 2011, 09:31 AM)
Among bad apples, there are good apples, and vice versa.
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And this is where Malaysian's usually loose the plot. To quote a peribahasa, Sebab nila setitik, rosak susu sebelanga.

One rotten apple is too many. Medical schools are not in the business of creating the "best" (whatever that may be) doctor. A proper medical school is in the business of producing competent doctors in all those who walk out of the door.

We do not need a brilliant top class doctor. We need all our doctors to be proficient and competent.
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post Aug 28 2011, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 28 2011, 10:30 AM)
And this is where Malaysian's usually loose the plot. To quote a peribahasa, Sebab nila setitik, rosak susu sebelanga.

One rotten apple is too many. Medical schools are not in the business of creating the "best" (whatever that may be) doctor. A proper medical school is in the business of producing competent doctors in all those who walk out of the door.

We do not need a brilliant top class doctor. We need all our doctors to be proficient and competent.
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I answer the previous question, how 'bad' are the standard are?

So, we cant generalize by saying that all IPTS medical students are bad.

And I do agree with your statement, the bold part.

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post Aug 28 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(sotong1992 @ Aug 28 2011, 09:31 AM)
Among bad apples, there are good apples, and vice versa.
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QUOTE(fastimes @ Aug 28 2011, 09:22 AM)
Sorry for interrupting the bashing, I'm a new medical student here from one of the IPTS. (hopefully I'm not the one being referred to here :S)

Anyway, any pro-tip on how the amount of stationary I should be hoarding? Planning to get 5 A4 size-note from bookstore ,should that be enough? Any other stationary stuff that is useful (index card etc.)?

Btw, on this issue, being a local IPTS student, how 'bad' are the standard are? Does it really bad compare to prominent grads such in UK in term of their surgery/diagnostic skill?
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what qualifications did you get in with?......

if it is less than aaa at stpm/a levels and atar97, you will NOT have gained entry into a medical programme in uk/oz (or even ipta actually).........in fact many with better results fail to secure places, when they do badly in the umat/isat/ukcat/bmed exams and interviews.....

this simple fact will benchmark you compared to your peers in good med schools.....
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post Aug 28 2011, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 28 2011, 12:21 PM)
what qualifications did you get in with?......

if it is less than aaa at stpm/a levels and atar97, you will NOT have gained entry into a medical programme in uk/oz (or even ipta actually).........in fact many with better results fail to secure places, when they do badly in the umat/isat/ukcat/bmed exams and interviews.....

this simple fact will benchmark you compared to your peers in good med schools.....
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