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susuman
post Oct 7 2009, 09:41 AM

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I don't know about TOYO, but any silicon grease should be good for lubing the O-ring, in fact it is recommended by the manufacturer, most manual states that. btw, I dont't know Toyo sell silicon grease, I thought he is a dentist? blush.gif

65 lumens good to use in door mah, you want to blast 500 lumens when you wake up at night meh, rclxm9.gif or you wear sun glasses when you sleep. Joking, just different needs. I like blaster and thrower, but some times I need moon mode flash light too. cool2.gif

One thing is, the Led Lenser might not have the same standard as the China manufacture, I mean the way they rate it. I have read many owners saying that it is alot brighter than many lights claim to have more than hundred lumens. And it throw like crazy because it can be focus to have almost not spill, all lux on the hot spot. Will see it personally soon. tongue.gif

For example, my surefire E2DL 120 lm is way brighter than the PD30 rated at 245 lm, though they have the same quality (but I hate surefire tailcap spring, it looks it was poorly manufactured) but their lumens rating is different number, Fenix has 100% over surefire LOL brows.gif but Fenix is more practical in terms of price. doh.gif

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post Oct 7 2009, 10:40 AM

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bro susuman,

fast fast get one and let's us do comparison with this... tongue.gif but i thing that i really like is the long runtime...

btw, why do you need a throw light for indoor use... brows.gif

just pm bro Philightsophy to send me the SP-9 kit ( xenon ), really want to try out the xenon for the first time here....lol moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif bye.gif

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post Oct 7 2009, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Oct 7 2009, 10:40 AM)
bro susuman,

fast fast get one and let's us do comparison with this... tongue.gif but i thing that i really like is the long runtime...

btw, why do you need a throw light for indoor use... brows.gif

just pm bro Philightsophy to send me the SP-9 kit ( xenon ), really want to try out the xenon for the first time here....lol  moneyflies.gif  moneyflies.gif  bye.gif
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Will let you know when I have the P5 on hand.

Haha, I was using the SP-6, so mine is Xenon 4 (4V), so it is not as bright, but good to use in the wood. You are using 2x18650? or 3 rc123?
Remeber to use the twist tailcap, 2x18650 would be 3A, the clicky tailcap is rated max 2A.

My 2x18650 20W Xenon is really good. You will love Xenon, when you outdoor only.
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post Oct 7 2009, 11:54 AM

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For SP-9, you can usr 2 pieces of 18500 batteries. If you use 2 x 18650, then you will need to get the extender.
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 7 2009, 09:41 AM)
I don't know about TOYO, but any silicon grease should be good for lubing the O-ring, in fact it is recommended by the manufacturer, most manual states that. btw, I dont't know Toyo sell silicon grease, I thought he is a dentist? blush.gif

65 lumens good to use in door mah, you want to blast 500 lumens when you wake up at night meh,  rclxm9.gif or you wear sun glasses when you sleep. Joking, just different needs. I like blaster and thrower, but some times I need moon mode flash light too. cool2.gif

One thing is, the Led Lenser might not have the same standard as the China manufacture, I mean the way they rate it. I have read many owners saying that it is alot brighter than many lights claim to have more than hundred lumens. And it throw like crazy because it can be focus to have almost not spill, all lux on the hot spot. Will see it personally soon.  tongue.gif

For example, my surefire E2DL 120 lm is way brighter than the PD30 rated at 245 lm, though they have the same quality (but I hate surefire tailcap spring, it looks it was poorly manufactured) but their lumens rating is different number, Fenix has 100% over surefire LOL brows.gif but Fenix is more practical in terms of price. doh.gif

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Hi,

I have a new LED Lenser P5 in hand if you guys wanna have a look & test.

Let me know, thanks
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:28 PM

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Hi guys,
New shipment of EagleTac flashlights has arrived smile.gif
This includes the neutral white P100 and T100 models smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:41 PM

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Guys...need help with my paracord here...
How to get the inner 'intestines' back into the green sheath..?
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And jst to show off my P100A2 with my USMC Service Support Group..
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post Oct 7 2009, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Philightsophy @ Oct 7 2009, 02:28 PM)
Hi guys,
New shipment of EagleTac flashlights has arrived smile.gif
This includes the neutral white P100 and T100 models smile.gif
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Here goes my hard earned money. icon_question.gif moneyflies.gif bye.gif

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post Oct 7 2009, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(old newspaper @ Oct 7 2009, 09:23 AM)
is this TOYO silicon grease suitable for lubing the thread and o-ring friendly? i couldn't find any further info on this...and btw it's available in Ace hardware....
I did a quick google but didn't manage to get a proper spec yet. Is it gel based or like spray based? Gel based is better for the o-rings, it'll last longer. Spray based will have faster evaporation. After a few turns, the o-rings can dry up. Also read the instructions if it's safe on rubber and such. (Although o-rings are not entirely made of rubber). Silicone/Teflon grease should be generally safe.

QUOTE(susuman @ Oct 7 2009, 09:41 AM)
.. 65 lumens good to use in door mah, you want to blast 500 lumens when you wake up at night meh,  rclxm9.gif or you wear sun glasses when you sleep. Joking, just different needs. I like blaster and thrower, but some times I need moon mode flash light too. cool2.gif

One thing is, the Led Lenser might not have the same standard as the China manufacture, I mean the way they rate it. I have read many owners saying that it is alot brighter than many lights claim to have more than hundred lumens. And it throw like crazy because it can be focus to have almost not spill, all lux on the hot spot. Will see it personally soon.  tongue.gif

For example, my surefire E2DL 120 lm is way brighter than the PD30 rated at 245 lm, though they have the same quality (but I hate surefire tailcap spring, it looks it was poorly manufactured) but their lumens rating is different number, Fenix has 100% over surefire LOL brows.gif but Fenix is more practical in terms of price. doh.gif

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65lm seems to be a balance I guess. I find the LD10 9lm is already bright enuf with night adapted eyes, being indoors.

Btw, found this cool beamshot review: LED Lenser P5 beamshots. I am surprised with the flood and spot focus, the beam is so clean! Check it out!


QUOTE(sthon @ Oct 7 2009, 02:21 PM)
Hi,

I have a new LED Lenser P5 in hand if you guys wanna have a look & test.

Let me know, thanks
Hi Sthon, do include your sale thread link and blog in your signature. That way new people can see what you're selling smile.gif


Added on October 7, 2009, 3:47 pm
QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Oct 7 2009, 02:41 PM)
Guys...need help with my paracord here...
How to get the inner 'intestines' back into the green sheath..?
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Er, can't advice much on this one, the 'intestines' are twisted inside the cover usually. Just 2 suggestion (at your own risk tongue.gif):
1) You might wanna slit off the cover fully, twist the intestines, shove it inside and sew the cover together or
2) use a tweezer and shove it all inside, the sew them. biggrin.gif
Well, you might end up with a bulge.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Oct 7 2009, 02:41 PM)
And jst to show off my P100A2 with my USMC Service Support Group..
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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OOPS, i left this part blank blush.gif wanted to say this is a nice pic and with intricate designs

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post Oct 7 2009, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ArmorFiend @ Oct 7 2009, 02:41 PM)
Guys...need help with my paracord here...
How to get the inner 'intestines' back into the green sheath..?
You will need to open the cord-end, possibly cut a little bit of opening, and then pull the inner strands. The tweezer will comes in handy for this.

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post Oct 7 2009, 04:53 PM

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Ok the promised beam shots on LF SP6, (no time to upload)

Camera settings:
1/15, F1.8 ISO 200, Sun White Balance, distance about 4m

FYI: the photo is somewhat not accurate to compare as good as the naked eyes. For example, sometimes using Xenon appeared too dark in photo, but it was well illuminated in real world with eyes. Guess the eye and camera not work 100% the same, especially the size of the spot is different.

The order is
Lumens Factory SP6 3 Mode LED 3.7V
Fenix PD30
Surefire E2D L Defender
47 123^2 Neutral White
Aurora SSC P7
Lumens Factory SP6 Xenon 4 (190lm)
20W Xenon (600lm)!!

Overall:
The SP6 is very tight in hot spot, good thrower, but still not able to beat Jetbeam RRT2 yet.
When using the Xenon 4, maybe because of the wattage in 1 cell 18650, the output is not very high, but good enough to lite in the wood, but not really great thrower.
the Surefire has very wide hotspot, but throw equally well.
Fenix PD30 is average shinning the green leafs, nothing to shout about.
47 123^2 gives good average illumination in outdoor due to the Neutral White.
Aurora SSC P7 is very broad wide flood light, so it appear not bright in photo, but in building, it really rocks.



I have another set, will upload soon.

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post Oct 7 2009, 05:44 PM

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Hey, very nice beamshots comparison thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

The SP6 xenon seems to have a wider hotspot than its LED?

I noticed the SP6 LED looks as tight as the Fenix TA21 (compared with my Quark AA at 4m using your pictures as sample). And the Aurora have a very nice floody beam smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 06:01 PM

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Yes, I think it is because the bigger head (reflector). The SP6 uses D26 size drop in, which is the surefire standard P60 size, which has a bigger head than the 4Sevens. And I really like the look if the TA21, looks so cool.

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post Oct 7 2009, 06:17 PM

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Here go another set, with Jetbeam RRT2

Camera settings:
1/60, F1.8 ISO 800, Sun White Balance, distance about 8m

This time the order sorted by the brightest of HOTSPOT by my eyes from Top:
Jetbeam RRT2 (Winner, it has the biggest head/reflector, and focusable beam make the tight hotspot very bright)
Surefire E2DL (Not bad, wide hotspot but still very bright, just too expenseive)
Lumens Factory SP6 3 Mode LED (Cree XR-E, R2 LED) (tight hot spot, that is why it is good thrower)
Fenix PD30 (Good throw in medium distance, considered its size, it is actually very good)
4Sevens 123^2 Neutral White (It is actually not bad, but it looks dimmed in photo)
Aurora SSC P7 (It has very wide beam, so it looks bright, but the hotspot is not as bright)
Lumens Factory SP6 Xenon EO-4 (3.7V, 190 Lumens) (I have to adjust abit the picture, my camera just don't capture light from Xenon well)

This order is really subjective, but the photo really cannot 100% tell you everything.

I should have the 20W Xenon to compare, but that night really not convenient, my sons keep kacau me. laugh.gif


ps : just added the Philips 20W Xenon , it just dominating. It should be in the Top, but I added it last , just took the shot 6 days later.

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post Oct 7 2009, 06:31 PM

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wah! susuman nice job smile.gif you are still on hari raya annual leave biggrin.gif
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post Oct 7 2009, 06:36 PM

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no lar, it was taken few days ago, now only upload, curi curi upload during working, now going home, bye
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post Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM

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oh yeah, so are we having a serdang get together?

i hope honest to goodness that whatever date that is going to be set is available to me.
Dont want to miss another one...

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post Oct 7 2009, 09:52 PM

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Just have time to take the 20W Xenon, and updated the beamshots.

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Please check out the comparison here:
Here
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and Here
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Added on October 7, 2009, 9:57 pm
QUOTE(strinq @ Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM)
oh yeah, so are we having a serdang get together?

i hope honest to goodness that whatever date that is going to be set is available to me.
Dont want to miss another one...
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pseudoblue is arranging, haha.

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post Oct 7 2009, 10:48 PM

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bro susuman....the xenon really performed well in outdoor ! and thanks for the excellent beamshot rclxms.gif

just changed my mind and ordered SP-6 (3 mode LED) kit and the xenon EO-4 instead....really appreciate bro Philightsophy for accommodating my last minute changes.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

opss...here's the pic of the silicon grease i mentioned earlier...

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it's a transparent gel type....this is the only gel lube i can find locally here....i almost buy the nyogel from lighthound but the high shipping cost turn me down.....

is this a good lube? i was thinking to use only 1 type of lube because i do sometime lego some of the light i have without having fear of bad lube mixture....this whole jar can last me till a very long period...

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post Oct 7 2009, 11:15 PM

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It looks ok, mine is silicon grease also, but much thinner, and very transparent. This silicon gel looks tick, perfect for lubing the O ring and thread. Which ACE shop you bought it? How much is it, mind to help me buy one? I rarely goto ACE.

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