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 Samsung Plasma Series 6 650 50inch (PS50B650S1R), Discuss this new plasma tv here.

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anfieldude
post Jan 15 2010, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(temppei @ Jan 15 2010, 09:56 AM)
Wanna ask u pros,

seems like when i set the refresh rate to 50hz, movie becomes clear and sharp when object is in motion. really smooth and clear. most prolly it's set at 100hz. i can see the difference even when i compare to 60hz. but it jerks and judders at times. not minute judders but real slow judders.

when i set it to 24hz, it's smooth (cinema motion on), but not as clear and sharp as the 50hz. watching high def cartoons set at 50hz are a blessings,clear and sharp but it judders at times.

what do yo guys set for your refresh rate from ur equipment?

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What r u watching? Blu Ray, DVDs, Astro? High Def Cartoons at 50Hz, whats the original framerate?

BD - 24hz
NSTC DVDs - 60Hz
Astro - 100Hz

If u r using the wrong setting for the wrong source, u will get weird motion and artefacts...
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post Jan 15 2010, 11:04 AM

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hi anfield bro,

it should be a 24p downloaded cartoon.
just wanna test it out coz it is much clearer and sharper (precise). No artifacts but judders badly.

anyway to maintain that kind of motion clarity while retaining smooth motion? on cartoons it is really sharper and clearer smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2010, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(temppei @ Jan 15 2010, 11:04 AM)
hi anfield bro,

it should be a 24p downloaded cartoon.
just wanna test it out coz it is much clearer and sharper (precise). No artifacts but judders badly.

anyway to maintain that kind of motion clarity while retaining smooth motion? on cartoons it is really sharper and clearer smile.gif
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Judder is caused by framerate mismatch. If it is indeed 24p, I believe u shd off all processing and the Sammy will be able to handle it.
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post Jan 15 2010, 02:38 PM

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FYI the 50PSB650 and 63PSB650 are on display in Queensbay groundfloor center court by Harvey Norman. smile.gif
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 15 2010, 02:38 PM)
FYI the 50PSB650 and 63PSB650 are on display in Queensbay groundfloor center court by Harvey Norman. smile.gif
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There have been some disturbing news of rising black levels (similar to the G series Panny) that have been cropping up.

Also the main reason why the 8500 local dimming LCDs were pulled out and not marketed all around well is rumored to be due to patent infringement.
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post Jan 15 2010, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 15 2010, 02:48 PM)
There have been some disturbing news of rising black levels (similar to the G series Panny) that have been cropping up.

Also the main reason why the 8500 local dimming LCDs were pulled out and not marketed all around well is rumored to be due to patent infringement.
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There have been some disturbing news of rising black levels (similar to the G series Panny) that have been cropping up.

What does this means?
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Jan 15 2010, 05:41 PM)
There have been some disturbing news of rising black levels (similar to the G series Panny) that have been cropping up.

What does this means?
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Ok, the mechanism of the Sammy is yet unknown. However, on the Panny the hours on ur panel are there for a reason. One of the prime reasons is there are voltage adjustments done to the drivers to change the voltage to the panel as time changes. In the case of the Panny, there are cases where the voltage changes are incorrect as such, there is an increase in black levels as the panel ages. What this means, is that the blacks are becoming greyer. It is something that is firmware correctable but I'm not sure if Panny is open about it.

It looks like Sammy has similar issues but it has not been confirmed.
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out of the box brand new, for break in using a break in dvd, can i leave the tv running for 24x7? For like 100hrs then calibrate & repeat the process for like 400hrs...

Will it caused any bad to the tv? If not whats proper way to break in the tv?
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 15 2010, 02:38 PM)
FYI the 50PSB650 and 63PSB650 are on display in Queensbay groundfloor center court by Harvey Norman. smile.gif
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how much was the 63"?
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Jan 15 2010, 07:45 PM)
out of the box brand new, for break in using a break in dvd, can i leave the tv running for 24x7? For like 100hrs then calibrate & repeat the process for like 400hrs...

Will it caused any bad to the tv? If not whats proper way to break in the tv?
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My advise is if u want to go the break in route, maybe do it 6-8hrs a day and let it rest so as to not overheat. Just to be careful.
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 15 2010, 08:27 PM)
how much was the 63"?
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16,999 for the 63" and 6,299 for the 50". No freebies at all, and standard 2-year Sammy warranty. Can get cheaper outside lah...thinking for dumping your 50" for the 63"? notworthy.gif
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post Jan 15 2010, 08:55 PM

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hahah... then my TV would be bigger than my couch...

anytakers for my 50".....??? 3 or 4mths old.. whistling.gif

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post Jan 15 2010, 09:00 PM

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RM4.3k can consider. whistling.gif
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hahaha... was just kidding ler.. but if can get at RM15K for a 63", can really consider ler...

just right for your new home bro....
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wah RM15k for a TV....
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 15 2010, 10:04 PM)
hahaha... was just kidding ler.. but if can get at RM15K for a 63", can really consider ler... 

just right for your new home bro....
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Now got promo RM14999 for PS63B650?
Btw I just updated my firmware to 002005 ver. Everything seems fine and working well.
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Promo in KL?? Have to quickly go find new crib to cater for the 63" oledi ler... whistling.gif


Bro, the firmware any differences? How is the IR, still see it?
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Whoops correction, it is 63PSB680, not B650.

Dunno why but I dun see the purplish AR filter on this B680 but on the 50B650 it is very noticeable.
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 16 2010, 08:33 PM)
Whoops correction, it is 63PSB680, not B650.

Dunno why but I dun see the purplish AR filter on this B680 but on the 50B650 it is very noticeable.
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With purplish AR filter, is good to have it?

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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 16 2010, 11:09 AM)
Promo in KL?? Have to quickly go find new crib to cater for the 63" oledi ler...  whistling.gif
Bro, the firmware any differences? How is the IR, still see it?
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The firmware upgrade. Colour seems better.
IR is inherent characteristic from panel.

QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 16 2010, 08:33 PM)
Whoops correction, it is 63PSB680, not B650.

Dunno why but I dun see the purplish AR filter on this B680 but on the 50B650 it is very noticeable.
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The purplish AR filter on 50B650 is very good. Difference is quite obvious in bright room.

I was looking at PS63B680 and TH-P65V10LK side by side. 65V10 picture seems more natural and pleasant to eyes.


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