Currently using motul i change my EO 1 month 1 time..and the oil filter 2 oil change = 1 filter change..all my motul oil cost at least 30+ =.="

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This post has been edited by TryX: Sep 25 2009, 11:40 PM

Ya la the tok tok tok sound if u hear my fren 1 very clear 1 tok tok tok but nothings wrong stil can lap until siao siao kakakaka.. I think tat cost more than RM200 loo...

This post has been edited by bizzy123: Sep 25 2009, 11:40 PM

try to use another EO brand. last time I also use motul htec 100, but the knocking sound become louder
then changed to FL Selenia Linx, now only heard the sound a lil bit but it's still there.

and oh, try to change the oil filter altogether with the EO

Twist: Is the Motul 10W-30? If not, what grade? Is this since you bought bike?
Which model, full clutch?

When tok tok sound start? Immediate after kick start or after warm up or after riding around? When does it get loudest - idle or slightly higher RPM? Does it go away at higher RPM?

Can you listen and agak which part the noise come from?

sir alexei, mine also have that knocking sound especially during warm up in the morning. but the sound will gone after a while. what is it ar?

oh one more thing, ES bike will have a rougher engine sound.
some said that it's because of the clutch plate, so changing them will solve the problem

Any lc135 can win pickup and topspeed with Gilera 200SX 4stroke scooter?
damm freaking fast my nouvo lc cant catch up also..smell nth only smelly air .uncompareable to my 2stroke bikes la.

Any lc135 modded tapau gilera 180sx 2 stroke.hahahaha

This post has been edited by Yashiro: Sep 26 2009, 01:55 AM

bro2 LC....
nak mintak pendapat...
me got 2 brand EO with same kelikatan 20W-50...
can i just mix those???
coz actually it is balance from changing oil last time...
that yamahalube from 3 bottle last time balance..
regards..

Waalaooo...

HongLeong Recommend me(LC) 'pakai' Motul 20-50 & Yamalube 20-50...
change EO & O.Filter every 3000km...Resetting every 6000km...
mean 3000km change EO, 6000km change EO & setting, 9000km change EO, 12000km change EO & setting...

This post has been edited by kinwei3250: Sep 26 2009, 02:53 AM

May i know, what to do with setting ?? Set what ?? I noob here..

erm... reset TPS, Clean/Add Coolant, Clean Air-Filter, change plug & check everything if got problem he will tell u...

breaker: oil manufacturer say don't mix. but i tried to mix 4 types of 4T with different grade together, ok also. personally if you sayang your bike, try not la. Now, I keep all balance and stock up when change EO. Once top up, I'll use it.

Are_keem: take example a 20W-50 multigred EO, the thing about mutigred EO is that cold the time, it's thin (20W), when it's warmed up, it's thick (50 at 210C if not mistaken).

Here's my guess, if tak-tak sound when startup, suspect EO thin, which is common if use 10W or 15W EO. that's why engine should warm up in the morning.
If noise when warm up already, or after riding sometime, suspect EO warm up grade too thin, try to use xxW-40 or xxW-50. Don't use 30W coz too thin.

However, the above is true if engine all good. All parts are nice fit no wear or tear. If some parts longgar already, use what EO also cannot protect engine anymore...

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Added on September 26, 2009, 4:42 amIn certain cases, use cheaper EO example SAE40 may be the solution, coz the thickness is maintained at all temperature (not extreme cold or hot la), and there is no friction modifier or any of those additives. These additives can degrade over time and make multigred EO go bad. At some point, 2-stroke engines actually recommend use this as 4T only go into gear box and it doesn't warm up like 4-stroke engine does...

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Added on September 26, 2009, 4:46 amI've heard about the ES clutch plate problem also from another ex-owner, while we were chatting about his Belang. I am not familiar with this problem, which is why I asked to listen for the source of the tak-tak sound. It may be gear box, head, con-rod, block.... or just some stupid loose screw.

This post has been edited by alexei: Sep 26 2009, 04:46 AM

thanks alexi....

yah i also recommend that yamahalube...
but change EO each 3000km, should be 2000km..and that resetting thing...
i never do that, what should i ask the pomen???

3000km change EO i think is a bit too long le la, if u really sayang ur bike then 1500km can change d lo, cuz when i change after 1500km the EO already like the black soya sause d, last time i change every 1000km but ''Beh Tong'' my pocket bocor.... Btw where shall i send my bike to reset??? Now 5575km d..

actually that depend yur ride mode...
that happen when you long travel everyday...
2000km should be fine...
but if yur're low travel which after 3 month still 1000km -2000km, still need to change the oil...
coz if i'm not mistaken, after 2 - 3 month, that oil become bekeladak or easy say, the performance as oil decrease...
correct me if i'm wrong...

thanks for the explaination sir.. currently i'm using 15W-50 full syn EO. i guess the thin EO thingy is true
my foreman told me that the another cause for the knocking sound is the loose conrod-piston joint.
that's normal for the bike that had run more than 30 000km, or if the bike always being pushed to its limit (ride like rempit one).

so for our machice most suit with which liquidity??
i guess 20W-50..
got more higher that that huh???

Breaker - I googled and find something like 20W-40 or 20W-50. No more, else would be something like manual gear oil - 80W~90W already, bad. If less means engine is light, but protective film is a bit 'risky' even with expensive EO.

For EO change rate, I wouldn't recommend too often or too long, should be just right. Example: once every 3k or 3months, whichever comes first. EO black nevermind, that's the nature of 4-stroke engine, it gets mixed with burnt fuel as it lubes the piston.

yesterday when unlock my disc brake solex lock I notice some chi bai ppl tried to break the lock, so filed a complaint to the condo security, he said lucky genuine lock, if they mange to break the ring at the keyhole the bike gone edi.

so careful guys 135LC still very high on thef list

i recommend using elf 100% synthetic EO and it cost around 40+ along with STP- rm 7. i used motul before but it only can show good result for 18+ days only. I fell like the engine is lighter when using elf with stp. lor