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Fixture (2009/10):
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August
15  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Everton  6  1
18  Tue UEFA Champions League  A  Celtic  2-0
22  Sat Barclays Premier League  H  Portsmouth 4-1
26  Wed UEFA Champions League  H  Celtic  19:45
29  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Manchester United  17:15

September
12  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Manchester City  15:00
15/16 UEFA Champions League  N  Matchday 1  19:45 
19  Sat Barclays Premier League  H  Wigan Athletic  15:00
23  Wed Carling Cup  N  Round 3
26  Sat Barclays Premier League  A  Fulham  17:30
29/30 UEFA Champions League  N  Matchday 2  19:45
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/

or follow good quality arsenal blogs which often have good insight and fan-written articles:
Arseblog ( http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog ) - good old drunken arseblogger who swears at anything that's not arsenal
A Cultured Left Foot ( http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/ )- decent writeup and opinions
Gunnerblog ( http://gunnerblog.com/ ) - same as above
Goodplaya ( http://goodplaya.com/ )- probably the most accurate player analysis after a match
3rd Gen ( http://www.third-gen.com/ )- pretty good too
Arsenal Insider ( http://www.arsenalinsider.com/ )- very pro-Arsene site, but many good articles to read... great weekly TGIF, but not sure whether they still do it or not
Untold Arsenal ( http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/ )- My newest favourite arsenal site written by a die-hard old school gooner
http://www.goonernews.com - all-in-one Arsenal news web
http://arsenalist.com/ - for replays and highlights
http://myarsenalvlog.blogspot.com/ - for videos and highlights


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The Emotional Highbury and The Grand Ashburton Grove

Highbury 1913-2006

For the majority of their time in south-east London, Arsenal played at the Manor Ground in Plumstead, a three-year period at the nearby Invicta Ground between 1890 and 1893 excepted. The Manor Ground was initially just a field, but the club installed stands and terracing in time for their first Football League match in September 1893. They played their home games there for the next twenty years (with two exceptions in 1894�95), until the move to north London in 1913.

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Arsenal Stadium, widely referred to as Highbury, was Arsenal's home from September 1913 until May 2006. The original stadium was designed by the renowned football architect Archibald Leitch, and had a design common to many football grounds in the UK at the time, with a single covered stand and three open-air banks of terracing. In the 1930s, the entire stadium was given a massive overhaul, with new Art Deco West and East stands constructed, opening in 1932 and 1936 respectively; in addition, the North Bank terrace had a roof added, which was later bombed during World War II and not restored until 1956.

At its peak, Highbury could hold over 60,000 spectators, and had a capacity of 57,000 until the early 1990s. The Taylor Report and Premier League regulations forced Arsenal to convert Highbury into an all-seater in time for the 1993�94 season, reducing the capacity to 38,419 seated spectators. This capacity had to be reduced further during Champions League matches to accommodate additional advertising hoardings, so much so that for two seasons (1998�99 and 1999�00) Arsenal played Champions League home matches at Wembley, which could house more than 70,000 spectators.

Final moments - the emotions run high in Highbury

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Ashburton Grove 2007-present

Expansion of Highbury was restricted because the East Stand had been designated as a Grade II listed building and the other three stands were close to residential properties. These limitations have prevented the club from maximising the revenue that their domestic form could have brought in recent seasons. After considering various options, in 2000 Arsenal proposed building a new 60,000-seater stadium at Ashburton Grove, since renamed the Emirates Stadium, about 500 metres south-west of Highbury. The project was initially delayed by red tape and rising costs, but construction was completed in July 2006, in time for the start of the 2006�07 season. The stadium is named after its sponsors, the airline company Emirates, with whom the club signed the largest sponsorship deal in English football history, worth approximately �100 million; however some fans refer to the ground as Ashburton Grove, or the Grove, as they do not agree with corporate sponsorship of stadium names.The stadium will be officially known as Emirates Stadium until at least 2012, and the airline will be the club's shirt sponsor until the end of the 2013�14 season.

Construction and completion of the Ashburton Grove

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Congratulations for new thread. I hope kolo will be our Henry after leaving us. No sour grapes.
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Arsenal Recruit Thomas Vermaelen Leaves Good Impression On Bacary Sagna
The former Ajax stopper is making a good impression at N5...

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Speculation Resurfaces That Brede Hangeland May Swap Fulham For Arsenal
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Ray Parlour Praises Arsene Wenger's Transfer Policy At Arsenal
Arsenal's former tenacious midfielder also commented that the two departed players must be replaced...

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AW got 39M for Adebayor and Toure..good business..
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Looks like Toure is set to leave. Our match against Man City will be mouth watering IMO. We play Man City in our 4th game of the season me thinks.
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waa if we sign Hangeland..our defence would look pretty good i think
i mean yea theres no guarentee to a 100% success
but both vermaelen & hange, one of them experienced defender at dutch league..the other already establish himself in BPL...would bring us fresh defensive strengths

will see how it goes,
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I am not sure Toure is good business. a lynch-pin, IMO I like the way he gets forward, having long shots and precise tackles. If Everton can hold out 30 Mil for lescott, Terry for 40, then Toure should be at least 30 too. Arsene should have raised the price more, judging by this yrs inflated market he really should.
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Wenger has always been a great businessman! Hopefully with the injected cash he generates from the transfer market, there will be one or two more new faces to the squad! Then we are ready to challenge for the title!
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toure is in his last year of his contract
£14Mil might be enough since Wenger bought Toure for merely £150,000
1 Question: Does Toure will get the standard "double-your-wages" at MC?
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toure will receive 120K/week at eastlands..double from his Arsenal wages..
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I dont understand abt tax that player have to pay, can anyone explain it
in terms of adebayor, when he's at Arsenal and at Man City, how much will he earn after tax?
Does this TAX become one of the reason player seeking for more money in terms of wages?
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It is good business.
We got African Nation cup early next year and we sure don wan any of our african player come back injured or become shyt toure-style.
Now lets pray Man city have the same fate
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Hope AW have it all plan out. Actually, now I'm hoping, if we do lose Toure(which seem to be closer and closer) at least AW can finally have a chance to replace one of the CB spot at least with a taller defender, hopefully. Plus, even with 6 CB last season, we were unable to cover for the spot last season when we lost Gallas and Toure, so I feel, there wont be any probz in getting another CB.

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what? we sold kolo? wth was arsene thinking of?? doh.gif he was our last invincible

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BPL tax is highest than other league..50% if not my mistake...
other sportsman like lewis hamilton also live outside to avoid this tax..
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i chose arshavin for the poll, but truth be told, i rather see dudu and nicky play together
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QUOTE(bobotorix @ Jul 29 2009, 10:51 AM)
I dont understand abt tax that player have to pay, can anyone explain it
in terms of adebayor, when he's at Arsenal and at Man City, how much will he earn after tax?
Does this TAX become one of the reason player seeking for more money in terms of wages?
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Tax works on different tiers. I'm not too familiar with the British system, but I assume its sort of similar in most countries, where the tax rate is higher as you move up on the income bracket.

In theory, this is how most tax system works: -
1) The poor gets tax less
2) The rich gets tax more

So in the UK, they decided that all rich b@stards (footballers included) who used to pay 25% tax (example) now needs to pay 50% tax on their wages. If gaji tak naik, but tax naik, that means now your take home pay is less la.

Er... I don't think I explained very well! doh.gif
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No doubt Kolo will be a massive lost to us. Tho his form has been pretty erratic, one game he could be massive, another game he would make mistake that makes us lose games. He's a good tackler and tracks back very well. Lost count the number of times he's made one of those crunching last ditch tackle that saved us. His timing and his runs are second to none among Arsenal defenders.
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Selling toure is good in terms of business but no good is team stability... Wenger did mentioned that he got 7 CB (It was wrong, Song is belong to CDM)

Now we should sit there and watch who will wenger buy .... Selling already be a trend for wenger, why he not recommend senderos to Man City??? laugh.gif


Don't think the team will win the title or even secure the CL spot. Villa or Everton will have the greater chance.
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QUOTE(angel82 @ Jul 29 2009, 11:33 AM)
Selling toure is good in terms of business but no good is team stability... Wenger did mentioned that he got 7 CB (It was wrong, Song is belong to CDM)

Now we should sit there and watch who will wenger buy .... Selling already be a trend for wenger, why he not recommend senderos to Man City???  laugh.gif
Don't think the team will win the title or even secure the CL spot. Villa or Everton will have the greater chance.
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oh come on have faith. the season havent start and already you are writing us off? maybe sendy will stay now. i remember when kolo was off in ANC two seasons back, sendy did well. dont lose hope so soon.
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jul 29 2009, 11:37 AM)
oh come on have faith. the season havent start and already you are writing us off? maybe sendy will stay now. i remember when kolo was off in ANC two seasons back, sendy did well. dont lose hope so soon.
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I hope I was wrong....with new season will start soon and will see what immediate action will be take by AW
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i'm sceptical that AW gonna buy any big name players.... we all know AW too well... my take is we gonna stick wif the current squad now for another season....

sorry but i dun see Arsenal as a title contender next season... i can only pray hard that we got the spot for CL... which we always do for the last few seasons.... grumble.gif

and also i hope no more serious injury... else we are really doomed next season and i really meant it... seriously no kidding wif the current crops that we have now....
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u guys should really be more optimistic. quit the gloom and doom.. anyway last match tonight before the emirates cup which is on saturday. thank god!
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QUOTE(giotto @ Jul 29 2009, 11:31 AM)
No doubt Kolo will be a massive lost to us. Tho his form has been pretty erratic, one game he could be massive, another game he would make mistake that makes us lose games. He's a good tackler and tracks back very well. Lost count the number of times he's made one of those crunching last ditch tackle that saved us. His timing and his runs are second to none among Arsenal defenders.
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He will be a massive lost to us, only if we do not sign a replacement. Yes, Kolo is a fantastic tackler I won't deny that. But his positional sense and heading sometimes leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Many a time we see this exposed but his pace more often than not bails him out of these situations. Hence why the huge amount of last ditch tackles. If Kolo had some decent positioning there wouldn't even be a need for last ditch tackles. Gallas is similar to Kolo which is why his shortcomings were magnified even further during recent seasons whereas Sol Campbell made up for everything Kolo lacks hence the brilliant partnership.

Andy Gray once questioned "Why is it does the Arsenal defenders always have to get back to make the tackle but they are never ALREADY there to make the tackle". Not the actual quote but something like that.
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As Thierry Henry said recently..
Trust Arsene, Trust Arsenal.
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QUOTE(fifthtouch @ Jul 29 2009, 12:11 PM)
As Thierry Henry said recently..
Trust Arsene, Trust Arsenal.
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yep.. trust AW. he knows what he's doing. BTW, i think Senderos is ready to step up. Look at his partnership with Djourou in Euro, they were massive.... the swiss duo did really good. So, i think Aw is banking on Sendy to step it up.

but.. having said that.. i still think AW needs to bring in another CB.


Added on July 29, 2009, 12:51 pmbtw.. tonite vs who?

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if want 1st team CB, Hangelaand it is
if want backup CB, Sakho it is
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it's always interesting to see how the season folds, it will be fascinating to see how we fare against the other clubs. the odds are stacked against us, but what more thrill than to take all the critics' words and SLAP it back hard to their faces at the end of their season? i for one still believe we still have a good squad to beat any team in the world if we play to our best. it's largely due to injuries that i feel we havent been able to show what arsenal can reallly do.

what i do agree is that the squad can do with more experienced players, especially in the defence. but if arsene decides not to buy, then i leave it to his wiser judgment to decide. i am against kolo toure's sell, but again i believe he has more insight into the club and again, i trust his decisions.


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He will be a massive lost to us, only if we do not sign a replacement. Yes, Kolo is a fantastic tackler I won't deny that. But his positional sense and heading sometimes leaves a lot to be desired IMO. Many a time we see this exposed but his pace more often than not bails him out of these situations. Hence why the huge amount of last ditch tackles. If Kolo had some decent positioning there wouldn't even be a need for last ditch tackles. Gallas is similar to Kolo which is why his shortcomings were magnified even further during recent seasons whereas Sol Campbell made up for everything Kolo lacks hence the brilliant partnership.

Andy Gray once questioned "Why is it does the Arsenal defenders always have to get back to make the tackle but they are never ALREADY there to make the tackle". Not the actual quote but something like that.
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Very true, his heading abilities and positioning sense isn't exactly world class compared to Rio or even Vidic.

But i remember very clearly Wenger saying he won't sell his top players this season, as what happened in the previous when Pires, Henry, Vieira, Edu, Flamini, Hleb and etc left. Here we are, losing arguably our top 2 players in the team. New players coming in might need a couple of months to settle down, sometimes even up to a season.
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jul 29 2009, 11:37 AM)
oh come on have faith. the season havent start and already you are writing us off? maybe sendy will stay now. i remember when kolo was off in ANC two seasons back, sendy did well. dont lose hope so soon.
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Ya, Senderos was a good CB, till he meet Drogba, which until now. I know he got the quality, but somehow he fail to perform.
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Let's not forget what happened in 1997-98 when we won our first double under Wenger (ok some of you might not even follow football yet, so here's a quick recap).

We sold Paul Merson and I remember us Gooners were making similar noises back then. After all, Merson was an established first teamer and came up through the ranks. However, in came Marc Overmars, who just came back from a career threatening injury and many were questioning AW's wisdom in signing a perma-crock. And in came a little known leftback from Monaca called Emmanuel Petit.

Overmars was of course instrumental in that title winning year, contributing (IIRC) 12-13 goals and even scoring against Man Utd at Old Trafford which switched tides our way. Petit of course formed arguably one of the best midfield tandems in EPL history with Vieira.

So yes, some players need time to adapt like Pires, Gilberto and Hleb. But others may take to English football like ducks to water. I mentioned Overmars and Petit who made immeadiate impact. More recently Sagna fit in like a glove in our backline, while Arshavin's arrival galvanised the team towards the end of the season. Henry did not score in his first 10 games or so, but ended up the year as top scorer in his first year.

Have some faith in AW's signings...
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and the past few years, AW has good signings barring Lassana Diarra. He was the one that got away.

Sagna - fits nicely
Nasri - also fits nicely
Arshavin - man.. what can i say.. impact player...

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But all in all, just hope the first 8 match, we would win them. We cant start like last season again, hahaha
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Arsene made his choice to sell Kolo we also cannot make noise. Since Kolo is in his last year contract and handed transfer request. Since people offer you 15M. Why not? We are going to replace him anyway right. Rift between Kolo and Gallas need to be solved. Since one of them volunteer to walk out and we can receive money. What we can do now is to trust the players and trust Wenger. Maybe Wenger is banking on a big signing with 40M? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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Arsene made his choice to sell Kolo we also cannot make noise. Since Kolo is in his last year contract and handed transfer request. Since people offer you 15M. Why not? We are going to replace him anyway right. Rift between Kolo and Gallas need to be solved. Since one of them volunteer to walk out and we can receive money. What we can do now is to trust the players and trust Wenger. Maybe Wenger is banking on a big signing with 40M?  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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AW felt that lack of defensive since Kolo and Willy together so that's the reason he bought Vermaelen (good on air + good in reading game) which similar Vidic & Terry.
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hangeland to replace toure
huntelaar to replace adebayor
any good dm to partner cesc

please AW, then every arsenal fan will trust u even more
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:01 PM)
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That's the thing. Most of us (myself included) are concerned that if/when we sell Toure, AW will come up with statements like "We've already got CBs" or "Buying another CB will kill Senderos, Djorou, Nordveit and the tea lady".

40m signing? David Villa springs to mind rclxms.gif

... Oh wait... This is AW we're talking about... wink.gif
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i think arsenal financial have some problem...

why they getting sell those good player like kolo toure sad.gif

sad to see him to leave gunners.
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Dont trust sendy too much...his failed peformance with drogba still haunting us a lot

A typical vidic type CB needed
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Arsene Wenger: Next 24 Hours Key In Kolo Toure Switch To Manchester City
The Ivorian's move to Manchester could be closer come the end of today...

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Emmanuel Eboue To Leave Arsenal For Fiorentina This Week – Report
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macam aku cakap.. confirm arsenal jadi ayam lagi tahun ni.. huhuhu... kuat mula2 pastu terlepas chan main ucl season 10/11 hihihi
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QUOTE(hata_yie @ Jul 29 2009, 05:09 PM)
macam aku cakap.. confirm arsenal jadi ayam lagi tahun ni.. huhuhu... kuat mula2 pastu terlepas chan main ucl season 10/11 hihihi
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tht is the spirit we need not! laugh.gif

its not the end of the world if we sell toure...
just look at henry's departure. ppl even said we were doomed!!
but it didnt happen.
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From some other forums that I read, some said that Arsene was trying to balance the team doh.gif

Had you wonder why the rumours on Toure and Eboue? Maybe because Arsene wants a team that do not leave for few months for other competition?
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jul 29 2009, 04:43 PM)
That's the thing. Most of us (myself included) are concerned that if/when we sell Toure, AW will come up with statements like "We've already got CBs" or "Buying another CB will kill Senderos, Djorou, Nordveit and the tea lady".
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Zan, Arsene already come out with that statement where le Boss said he have 7 CBs until he had to play some of them in midfield

honestly, does le Boss thought we bought that especially the bold part? shakehead.gif

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i really dun know what season we gonna expect soon, hope it could be an exciting wan better than la liga

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Zan, Arsene already come out with that statement where le Boss said he have 7 CBs until he had to play some of them in midfield

honestly, does le Boss thought we bought that especially the bold part? shakehead.gif
from what i have seen, only Song played midfield, toure occassionally, and sendy doh.gif

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:27 PM)
Zan, Arsene already come out with that statement where le Boss said he have 7 CBs until he had to play some of them in midfield

honestly, does le Boss thought we bought that especially the bold part?  shakehead.gif
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Hahaha, I always thought tht he play some of them in midfield because it dangerous to play them in defense, not because we hv too many of them laugh.gif


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i really dun know what season we gonna expect soon, hope it could be an exciting wan better than la liga

from what i have seen, only Song played midfield, toure occassionally, and sendy doh.gif
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Sendy, I doubt AW going to fully use him, cause if he was in AW plan, he would not have loan him to Milan with a clause that enable Milan to buy him. And Song, if let say AW consider Song a midfield, than we lack a CB if we take Toure and Sendy out of the picture, and if AW consider Song as a CB, then we lack a more defensive midfielder laugh.gif So both way, AW nd to get an extra player if not we look a bit thin, remember that last season, we were lack of players till a level tht Eboue need to play in centre of midfield?

So I can only say, for Arsenal, we never have enough players, the reason is simple, and most of u guys should have guess it already laugh.gif

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I have no problem with kolo getting sold. provided we get a replacement.. Vermaelen doesnt count.

sakho, hangeland, naldo, zapata
any one of them would be nice biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:41 PM)
I have no problem with kolo getting sold. provided we get a replacement.. Vermaelen doesnt count.

sakho, hangeland, naldo, zapata
any one of them would be nice biggrin.gif
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Partner with RVP..

1-Eduado
2-Vela
3-Bendtner..

Can RvP play wing...

Can it be

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Bendtner a sub...

I taught this off season arsenal will buy some defender...yes..Vermaelen..but nover taught that arsenal will sell one..

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:27 PM)
Zan, Arsene already come out with that statement where le Boss said he have 7 CBs until he had to play some of them in midfield

honestly, does le Boss thought we bought that especially the bold part?  shakehead.gif
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Bro, u got the point... mind to name which 7 CB still in first team now??

toure, gallas, vermalen, djourou, sendy, silvestre, song ...anyone else???

If he mean that this 7 player then he will be dissapointed again at the end of next season....Song is CDM preferable, silvestre not solid in CB (he better in LB), sendy doh.gif reminding us of 2 time drogba incident, Djourou is not solid also, probably suitable to play for those survive BPL teams...That mean only gallas and vermalen are capable to handle whole season long.

Selling toure without add in a solid world class CB certainly a setback for wenger this new season

god bless for the team
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now eboue also will be sold? excuse me while i throw a party. i for one will not miss him. kolo on the other hand... with the 40 million, i would like a decent dm. and a cb, i dont care if we have 7. 7? really?
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jul 29 2009, 06:55 PM)
now eboue also will be sold? excuse me while i throw a party. i for one will not miss him. kolo on the other hand... with the 40 million, i would like a decent dm. and a cb, i dont care if we have 7. 7? really?
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Hahaha, yup, we have 7 CB, as listed by angel82. Maybe we never felt like we have 7 is because, out of the 7, only few can play the position properly, plus we have some of them injured during some part of the season last season rclxub.gif
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well, on paper 7 looks a lot. but TBH last season we were really struggling. gallas and JD were injured. sendy off on loan. song was in midfield. we only had kolo and silvestre. i dont even want to remember how painful it was
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QUOTE(angel82 @ Jul 29 2009, 06:26 PM)
Bro, u got the point... mind to name which 7 CB still in first team now??

toure, gallas, vermalen, djourou, sendy, silvestre, song ...anyone else???

If he mean that this 7 player then he will be dissapointed again at the end of next season....Song is CDM preferable, silvestre not solid in CB (he better in LB), sendy  doh.gif reminding us of 2 time drogba incident, Djourou is not solid also, probably suitable to play for those survive BPL teams...That mean only gallas and vermalen are capable to handle whole season long.

Selling toure without add in a solid world class CB certainly a setback for wenger this new season

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yup, that are the "magnificent" 7 CBs that le Boss claimed we have

like i said, did le Boss honestly believe we fans buy that kind of excuse? not to mention at the back of a very unsuccessful season which taking our season without trophies count to 4

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i vote for edu to partner rvp...rvp play as playmaker forward and dudu as a finisher..maybe they can be a killer duo..just wait this season..

for the department we should care...for sure defend laa..hmmm...toure oo toure...seem like our team doing same as previous season..selling player..sad.gif
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Voted for Bendtner... Dunno why but if Dudu then we're like missing Ada-bayar's height...

By the way,what time will the match starts?
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Selling toure is not bad at all. If you are in the AW shoes, you will do the same. You will agree with me by reading this article.

Read this
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if toure leaves, i just believe AW need to replace him. but 15millions pounds is a reali good deal to me. notworthy.gif he can sign for any team starting Jan 2010 and leave Arsenal too at the end of season 2009/10, but then it would be free transfer! sweat.gif

my choice for replacement, Steven Taylor from Newcastle drool.gif or David Wheater from Middlesbrough. rclxms.gif
Hangeland from Fulham anyone? rclxms.gif
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my vote go to nicky...
well i can see his potential, to partner up rvp with dudu seem ok but both of the left footed...
arshavin more to left side, right will be rosicky...
pitty for vela coz saw him in goldcup final he was explosive!

i dont think aw wil bought anymore player this season...
ade, toure & eboue = 50m good business but hope for a success season for aw...
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QUOTE(jeff_v2 @ Jul 29 2009, 08:04 PM)
my vote go to nicky...
well i can see his potential, to partner up rvp with dudu seem ok but both of the left footed...
arshavin more to left side, right will be rosicky...
pitty for vela coz saw him in goldcup final he was explosive!

i dont think aw wil bought anymore player this season...
ade, toure & eboue = 50m good business but hope for a success season for aw...
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yerp...2nd that...his height will be an advantage to arsenal...

maybe rvp+nicky @ dudu@nicky...who knows? drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jul 29 2009, 08:02 PM)
Selling toure is not bad at all. If you are in the AW shoes, you will do the same. You will agree with me by reading this article.

Read this
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nothing bad, just couple year with nothing ....
But is really good for toure at this age with 120k weekly and first team position,
Good luck toure, enjoy and show the world ur capability, the last invincible player smile.gif

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i thought we still have invincible player in clichy?
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QUOTE(little_mozart @ Jul 29 2009, 08:02 PM)
Selling toure is not bad at all. If you are in the AW shoes, you will do the same. You will agree with me by reading this article.

Read this
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The article make sense, except for the part tht even if AW dont buy any1 to replace Toure, it be ok. Cause I can be very sure it wont be ok laugh.gif Let say, even if the ex ajax captain dude can jump really high, will he be tall enough to challenge ppl like Crouch or someone who is as tall as Rio or Vidic during corners?

I highly doubt that, so I would be happy if AW sign some1 taller, cause we sure have a lot of short players in our team currently. Specially in the defense department. Let see, Droujou and Senderos is above 6 feet, Song also just above 6 feet by a little, then there Gallas and the new dude, who is both exactly 6 feet, so during corners, like usual, we will have probz
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QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jul 29 2009, 02:25 PM)
Let's not forget what happened in 1997-98 when we won our first double under Wenger (ok some of you might not even follow football yet, so here's a quick recap).

We sold Paul Merson and I remember us Gooners were making similar noises back then. After all, Merson was an established first teamer and came up through the ranks. However, in came Marc Overmars, who just came back from a career threatening injury and many were questioning AW's wisdom in signing a perma-crock. And in came a little known leftback from Monaca called Emmanuel Petit.

Overmars was of course instrumental in that title winning year, contributing (IIRC) 12-13 goals and even scoring against Man Utd at Old Trafford which switched tides our way. Petit of course formed arguably one of the best midfield tandems in EPL history with Vieira.

So yes, some players need time to adapt like Pires, Gilberto and Hleb. But others may take to English football like ducks to water. I mentioned Overmars and Petit who made immeadiate impact. More recently Sagna fit in like a glove in our backline, while Arshavin's arrival galvanised the team towards the end of the season. Henry did not score in his first 10 games or so, but ended up the year as top scorer in his first year. 

Have some faith in AW's signings...
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Good post amidst all those doom and gloom whining spreading everywhere in cyberspace.

There has been arguments on other forums (fortunately not here yet) saying that Vermy is not up to standard/too short/not as great as expected etc. Vermy haven't even played a proper competitive match for us yet and people are already making up their minds.

QUOTE(ivanchin99 @ Jul 29 2009, 05:41 PM)
sakho, hangeland, naldo, zapata
any one of them would be nice biggrin.gif
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Honestly, how often have you guys seen these players play? I don't think any of us have a true idea of how good/bad these players performed in the past season, but surely if anyone of them were good enough le Boss would have sent his scouts to gather information about them. Hangeland for what it's worth is likely to become the next "Veloso" , "Cana", or even "Frey" in terms of perpetually being linked with Arsenal rather than actual ability.

Not to say that I am against signing Hangelaand as any signing is always welcomed. Nevertheless I think the main argument that Hangelaand is a better player just because he plays in the EPL is a weak one. Playing in EPL doesn't necessarily mean suitable for Arsenal.

QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jul 29 2009, 03:01 PM)
Arsene made his choice to sell Kolo we also cannot make noise. Since Kolo is in his last year contract and handed transfer request. Since people offer you 15M. Why not? We are going to replace him anyway right. Rift between Kolo and Gallas need to be solved. Since one of them volunteer to walk out and we can receive money. What we can do now is to trust the players and trust Wenger. Maybe Wenger is banking on a big signing with 40M?   brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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As someone who grew up with Wenger's years it's only natural that I feel bad about Kolo leaving, but there will be a day where our favourite player(s) leave. Titi's departure has showed us that even the greatest player will never be able to play for Arsenal for the rest of his life, and if Kolo chooses to leave we can only wish him good luck.

Think on the bright side:
1. We've got another huge profit not unlike that of Anelka's sale.
2. The departure of the last remaining Invincible (Clichy doesn't count due to his lack of participation back then) may actually "free" the younger players to play their own game.
3. Gallas + Vermy may potentially work better since Gallas intercepts better on the ground while Vermy leaps sky high despite his "normal" height.
4. Arsene never replaces players like-for-like; yet for each departure, we unearth someone who is equally important, if not better, regardless of differences in style:
(a) Wrighty -> Anelka
(b) Anelka -> Titi
(c ) Overmars -> Pires
(d) Paddy -> Fabs
(e) Titi -> Ade in his 30 goal season/ Dudu
(f) Cole -> Clichy (probably the only similar one)
(g) Hleb -> Nasri/Arshavin
(h) Lauren -> Sagna (quite similar too, although Lauren still crosses better)
(i) Dave -> Jens

I'd say the players we never truly replaced are Gilberto and Sol; and to a lesser extent, Pires although a full season of Arshavin magic might change that.

Kolo may appear to be leaving, but Vermy/JD may potentially become the next big thing. The only thing I'm concerned about is Gallas's future where he may possibly leave after next season when his contract finishes. Who knows by then our first choice CB pairing would already be Vermy AND JD or even someone new.

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hehehe...glad to see bro kimhoong taking my question suggestion as a poll..about toure im very sad that he is leaving as he has given all to Arsenal for all the years he was with us.....but it is also true that he was not the same player since he came back from ACN with a bout of malaria....i really believe Vermy can step up n be our new defensive lynchpin!!i also think that AW will not replace Toure as he said there are 6 CBs(excluding toure) in Arsenal first team...so there are other players that can step in if Vermy or Gallas gets injured...my gut is that AW will only buy 2 players which is a DM and a striker.....but i really hope that a proven DM would be the first priority.... thumbup.gif n one more thing...guess which player i voted to become RVP's partner...one roti telur n teh tarik for the winner!!! laugh.gif

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I reckon we shouldn't even get Huntelaar. Great player that he is, I feel we have enough firepower upfront. Eduardo and Van Persie can be truly deadly if fit and now that we have Arshavin there really isn't any reason to reinforce the frontline. If Walcott develops the way Henry did, we will have another great striker added to the ranks. What Arsenal needs to do is simple. Fill the void that Vieira left. Sure, Flamini came close to replace him but he left. And I think Arsenal really missed out on Melo. He would've been perfect. Why can't we buy Miguel Veloso? He's great for 14-15 mil. And now that Toure's pretty much gone let's hope we get Hangeland to replace him. And what's all that crap about Vermaelen not being strong enough? Puyol is shorter and so is Cannavaro and Milito and Marquez and they managed to win the treble. I'm sure Arsene had good reason to buy him and let's just stick with him. In Arsene we trust.
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i voted for bendy simply because his height and he's right footer.compliment well with RVP.dudu is a left footer and he's lacking of height.

toure's departure..i'm optimistic that we still can cope with his absence.sagna praised vermy.that should mean something.for djorou and sendy,i would say,give them another chance.same like what we did to ade when henry left us.
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Even if Vermy can fit in like a glove, I'll like to see another CB signing, even if it's a backup one. You can never predict injuries.
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Jul 29 2009, 09:48 PM)
Even if Vermy can fit in like a glove, I'll like to see another CB signing, even if it's a backup one. You can never predict injuries.
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Specially for Arsenal cry.gif

bt anyway, Vermy, never actually saw him play yet, he really can jump very high? Hmm, hopefully the Emirates cup come fast, I want to see how Vermy perform, never gotten a chance yet.
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Hi there... hope you guys like the poll. Thanks for the idea brows.gif

Glad to know that many here can accept the fact that Toure is leaving (be it a speculation or truth).

Conclusion:
1. Financially, 15M for a defender of his last year contract is a good deal.

2. Football-wise, losing a 29 years old defender with 7-8(?) years experience at the same club, it's a bad deal.

3. From Arsenal POV, losing a regular in this already weak defence is a big NO-NO.

4. Losing Toure to a potential Top-4 "contender" is even a bigger NO-NO.


Just wait and see if the deal goes through first.
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juz an idea ya...
can someone update with the latest pre season match game before and after the match been played?
miss some of the previous game lately due to lack of info got...
btw, is ars game tonite? what time?

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 29 2009, 11:20 PM)
Hi there... hope you guys like the poll. Thanks for the idea brows.gif

Glad to know that many here can accept the fact that Toure is leaving (be it a speculation or truth).

Conclusion:
1. Financially, 15M for a defender of his last year contract is a good deal.

2. Football-wise, losing a 29 years old defender with 7-8(?) years experience at the same club, it's a bad deal.

3. From Arsenal POV, losing a regular in this already weak defence is a big NO-NO.

4. Losing Toure to a potential Top-4 "contender" is even a bigger NO-NO.
Just wait and see if the deal goes through first.
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Footballistically it may be a blessing in disguise IMO. If Toure stays no doubt our first choice defensive partnership will be Gallas/Toure which we all have seen enough of how inaffective they are as a defensive partnership because both are similar in terms of strengths and weaknesses and neither would want to sit on the bench. Toure leaving opens the door to whoever Arsene chooses to pair Gallas with. Right now I'd assume it would be Vermaelen and IF Vermaelen turns to be the perfect foil (making up for Toure's poor positioning and heading) we could be looking at a very tasty season for us. Also, one Centreback spot up for grabs amongst Vermaelen, Djourou, Silvestre and Senderos assuming he stays. Competition for starting spots is always welcome IMO.

Agree about losing Toure to City though. Would have preferred him to be sold elsewhere if he were to leave. Same as Adebayor. But to be honest we were never going to get the type of money we received for them elsewhere.

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Footballistically it may be a blessing in disguise IMO. If Toure stays no doubt our first choice defensive partnership will be Gallas/Toure which we all have seen enough of how inaffective they are as a defensive partnership because both are similar in terms of strengths and weaknesses and neither would want to sit on the bench. Toure leaving opens the door to whoever Arsene chooses to pair Gallas with. Right now I'd assume it would be Vermaelen and IF Vermaelen turns to be the perfect foil (making up for Toure's poor positioning and heading) we could be looking at a very tasty season for us. Also, one Centreback spot up for grabs amongst Vermaelen, Djourou, Silvestre and Senderos assuming he stays. Competition for starting spots is always welcome IMO.

Agree about losing Toure to City though. Would have preferred him to be sold elsewhere if he were to leave. Same as Adebayor. But to be honest we were never going to get the type of money we received for them elsewhere.
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But anyway, just to add on a little bit... Normally, I would say a defender can probably play at the top level until 33-34 and some cases older. But these guys (Adams, Keown, Hyypia,etc) usually have/had good reading of the game and strong positional sense, whereas the main asset that Kolo Toure has is his pace. As KimHoong mentioned, he's already 29. How long more can he possess the pace to make those famous last ditch tackles?

So is AW cutting his losses on what he believes is a depreciating asset? Could be... Could very well be...

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This is sad...I mean it's bad enough we still don't get any replacement for Ade then we lost another important part of our team (vice captain) for God sake...It give me thinks that we actually does not have money to buy players, if we not sell any...
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In response to StarGhazzer's post.AW actually did replace pires with Rosicky.He even said that rosicky is similar to pires

I hope arsenal buy someone worthy.can't wait
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its official T_T

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/...olo-joins-Blues

u can see in kolo's eyes, is reddish his sad to leave i presume =(
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QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Jul 30 2009, 12:46 AM)
its official T_T

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/...olo-joins-Blues

u can see in kolo's eyes, is reddish his sad to leave i presume =(
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What can a person say some more when all the time is that the club keeps selling and no buying?

I felt what Eduardo feels..Unless Arsene starts to buy some players, others might be unrest as well... sad.gif


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Vito Mannone
Thomas Vermaelen
William Gallas
Alex Song
Armand Traore
Denilson
Emmanuel Eboue
Andrey Arshavin
Cesc Fabregas ©
Nicklas Bendtner
Robin Van Persie

Substitutes Wojciech Szczesny
Bacary Sagna
Johan Djourou
Aaron Ramsey
Mikael Silvestre

no rosicky, no dudu.. =( on the plus side, cesc is back!!

good stream

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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:29 AM)
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aww dudu, i like u. how can you say this??
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QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Jul 30 2009, 12:46 AM)
its official T_T

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2009/...olo-joins-Blues

u can see in kolo's eyes, is reddish his sad to leave i presume =(
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Jul 30 2009, 12:54 AM)
Vito Mannone
Thomas Vermaelen
William Gallas
Alex Song
Armand Traore
Denilson
Emmanuel Eboue
Andrey Arshavin
Cesc Fabregas ©
Nicklas Bendtner
Robin Van Persie

Substitutes Wojciech Szczesny
Bacary Sagna
Johan Djourou
Aaron Ramsey
Mikael Silvestre

no rosicky, no dudu.. =( on the plus side, cesc is back!!

good stream

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Oh well, Toure has gone cry.gif
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at the moment this is the best stream. no lag, clear.. its like sopcast.hehe. the iraqgoals and adthe is crappy but u can try

http://atdhe.net/8221/watch-hannover-96-vs-arsenal
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enjoy =)


Added on July 30, 2009, 1:00 amwe're wearing the white pyjamas =P

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I get a stream on ArsenalTV via TVAnts brows.gif

Anyway, Toure departure is on the Arsenal official site:

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/k...manchester-city
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AW is smiling on the field shocking.gif Toure has just left us doh.gif

Joking only laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 30 2009, 01:05 AM)
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cesc! 1-0! nice ball from robin and what a goal!
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lol?! cesc = theo??
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theo on holiday... lol cesc, when did u change your name? and nationality? =P
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damn, my stream is soooo slow vmad.gif


Seriously, this goal remains me our invincible season cry.gif I know we have to get over the invincible, but this goal is just too similar to those we scored at that season sad.gif


Added on July 30, 2009, 1:19 amBendtner doesn't look good... and he's playing as RW ??

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What happened to walcott? Injured or on an extended leave? =/
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armand traore have a really nice game until rite now..
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What happened to walcott? Injured or on an extended leave? =/
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Anyway, Bendtner looks a bit lazy and plays out of position in a few occasions. It's clear that AW is playing around with the formation from time to time smile.gif
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nicky was brilliant on monday.. i think he a little off today
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bendtner looks like he wants to get booked today... hahahah... he's had a few of those rash challenges already..
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AW is playing 4-3-3 with Arshavin and "Bendtner" as the wide men sad.gif

I'm off to bed biggrin.gif Tomorrow need to wake up early for work sweat.gif

Enjoy the game, guys!
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injured? why silvestre??
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^ same things i'm wondering.... but vermaeleen looks good in the air.. he's been quite dominant from what i've seen...


Added on July 30, 2009, 1:47 amaisay.. what a miss by bendter...


Added on July 30, 2009, 1:49 amok folks.. gotta sleep already.. got work tomorrow.. but arsenal i must say look pretty decent....there's hope after all? =)

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of course there is hope! aw nicky, i feel for you. vito mannone looks like someone you would hire to kill someone...
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gnite..

ht - 0-1 !! ;p
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everyone going to sleep? ah well, looks like its just me and my arsenal then =P
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no worries
i just came back from futsal.....planning to watch 2nd half icon_rolleyes.gif

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oh no no no robin bye bye
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sagna still cant cross :/
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fabianski looked abit thin no?
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Toure left
It's official. 16M not bad
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QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Jul 30 2009, 02:23 AM)
his no.21 no?? =/ lol
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btw, i thk fabianski is injured


Added on July 30, 2009, 2:27 amowhhh, here comes dudu

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dudu on! he is capt too.. btw who is vice captain now that kolo is gone?
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just got back from late late late dinner. forgot we had a match. streaming now smile.gif
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walao futsal until 1/2 ??
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QUOTE(nLz | Lanpakali @ Jul 30 2009, 02:31 AM)
haha, so ganas meh...
u reflexes slow nia... ;p cannto avoid
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unavoidable
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vermaelen injured..god pls


Added on July 30, 2009, 2:48 amare we playing with 10 men?


Added on July 30, 2009, 2:52 amFT 1 nil to the arsenal =) i was kinda hoping for more. ah well.. i thought szczesny did well, esp considering he broke both his arms not too long ago

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I don't mind if he's injured for a few days if it can kick some fear into Arsene in buying another back up player lol
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^ rofl that's an interesting thing to happen... but vermaelen injured? i hope it's not too bad. we certainly dont need that.

n a new era at arsenal begins... now that toure has left, most of the players in the 'invincibles' squad are gone. let's make the 'invincibles junior' now!!!
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when i see the video of match highlights (@arsenalist.com), everybody can notice that eboue is giving away his boot and jersey (remind of someone that did it at highbury). is this a sign that eboue is in his way to Viola?!
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lots to work on with the team. hopefully AW can tweak it further before the season starts. Emirates Tournament is a good way to gauge how far we are and what we need.

so long toure. Thanks for all the hardwork and dedication.
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who r citeh gonna buy from u guys next? ... fab?
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It sad to see that Toure has completed the deal and is now a Man City player. Hmm. Hopefully with the cash injection there will be another 1 or 2 more faces in the team.

Go Gunners!
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i was hoping that toure goes abroad instead of signing with other epl club... i guess arsene really put his trust on the current player such as johan n vermy
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our squad depth never improved every season.
we buy 1 player,another player will go.
if someone gets injured, fans will start yelling about squad depth,experience,bla bla bla..
anyway, for me, this is the season where AW will prove that his policy will bring success to Arsenal.
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i dunno about you guys... but watching the way we played against hanover, i actually thought song and denilson played very well. song was busy mopping up defensively, he didn't lose too many balls (in fact, i can't remember him watching him lose the ball in the 1st half) and denilson was quick to push passes to the flanks or the attacking players... the 2 CBs of vermaeleen and gallas were also quite tight in the first half....

so don't be surprised that on the strength of such performances and also their commitment in training that wenger may decide not to get a replacement for toure or a DM....

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QUOTE(bobotorix @ Jul 30 2009, 05:15 AM)
when i see the video of match highlights (@arsenalist.com), everybody can notice that eboue is giving away his boot and jersey (remind of someone that did it at highbury). is this a sign that eboue is in his way to Viola?!
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I know some may not like Eboue but I really want this guy to stay. .... actually I want EVERYONE to stay, for god sake ! vmad.gif

Agree with sOuLx, our squad is not improved in terms of depth. The only positive to mention is that we never have overloaded players sweat.gif


All in all, the news that Vieira's possibility to come back attracts me smile.gif

Although I doubt his current form and ability, I still rate him high. If he really joins us, I'm sorry to say that he won't be our automatic first choice CM. I prefer him to be a mentor and leader who will play fewer games but in every game he plays, he will bring different impact to the game; just like what Bergkamp offered to us wink.gif

- that's why, Vieira has to think carefully before deciding to come back biggrin.gif
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bring viera back! coach Song and Denilson how to "get in your face" with opponents!


Added on July 30, 2009, 11:25 ambtw.. if viera is back for another season, that means he got 10 season with us... and we can have a testimonial game for him!!

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i would love to see veira back.

heck, I would love to see tony adams back too.. haha
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Well, toure is gone and vermalen now injured...what will wenger do right now? shift song to CB or shift silvestre? May be sendy is an answer laugh.gif

this 2 weeks will be crucial for wenger in terms of transfer activity ......it will determine the realistic target for the team this season

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Do you guys think viera can perform as he could? This is rather good news, but i think he might be a little slow for arsenal's current playing style(which i hope improves in attacking and possession)

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Our soft-centered defense really needs some more `upgrade` now with Toure gone. The next few weeks transfer news for AW will make or break Arsenal season

Lorik Cana signed for Sunderland. Wasnt AW interested in signing him before this?


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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jul 30 2009, 11:24 AM)
bring viera back! coach Song and Denilson how to "get in your face" with opponents!
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i definitely would like tat, imagine denilson have "get in your face" altitude
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Jul 30 2009, 11:54 AM)
Our soft-centered defense really needs some more `upgrade` now with Toure gone. The next few weeks transfer news for AW will make or break Arsenal season

Lorik Cana signed for Sunderland. Wasnt AW interested in signing him before this?
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actually, lorik cana's name has been one that was bandied about in forums and rehashed newspaper reports from newspapers like the dailymail and the sun in addition to his all famous youtube videos that makes him out to be a real monster. i enjoy that video actually.. heheh.. but to be honest, i haven't actually heard wenger say that he's really interested in cana (please correct me if i'm wrong).
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so Kolo did leave us officially now. thanks for all the memories Kolo, i will never forget you

le Boss is changing Arsenal, for better or worse it is still to be seen i guess

on the noteside, who want to bet that Kolo will score at least 1 goal against us next season from his useless-and-never-worked-but-once long freekick? tongue.gif
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Im so excited to see the prospect of Veira coming back. If the news were really true. I hope its true. Many of Arsenal fans im sure would rather seeing him joining Arsenal rather than Spurs
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Vieira coming back to Arsenal at 33? Hmm. I wonder if he still has what it takes for the EPL games. But of course he will be a great influence to the team and also a mentor for the younger ones.
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i choose RVP partner as Eduardo smile.gif

2nd choice : Theo Walcott

3rd choice : Arshavin


and goodbye to Kolo Toure joining up arch-rivals sad.gif

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QUOTE(joe405 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:03 AM)
Eduardo Da Silva Questions Arsenal's Title Credentials
The Gunners striker is unsure whether the club is strong enough to win the league...

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OFFICIAL: Kolo Toure Leaves Arsenal And Signs Four-Year Deal At Manchester City
The Ivorian has completed his Eastlands switch today...

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Early Cesc Fabregas Strike Separates Arsenal From Hannover 96
A sole first-half Gunners goal is enough to secure Arsene Wenger's side a further pre-season win...

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Arsenal Ready To Re-Sign Patrick Vieira From Inter - Report
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next news should be henry is coming back to arsenal

but honestly i am very happy to hear all that

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i dunno about you guys... but watching the way we played against hanover, i actually thought song and denilson played very well. song was busy mopping up defensively, he didn't lose too many balls (in fact, i can't remember him watching him lose the ball in the 1st half) and denilson was quick to push passes to the flanks or the attacking players... the 2 CBs of vermaeleen and gallas were also quite tight in the first half....

so don't be surprised that on the strength of such performances and also their commitment in training that wenger may decide not to get a replacement for toure or a DM....
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Patrick Vieira 'Back At Arsenal' - Ian Wright
The Gunners' legend believes the Frenchman will rejoin the club...

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hope it's true...

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wow.. i would love to have vieira back! is it possible??


Added on July 30, 2009, 4:49 pmi know i said that i wont be sad if eboue goes, but i would rather he stays. we are losing so many guys

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viera coming back ? i'd love it !!!!! would love to sing his song in the emirates =D

*viiieerrraaaa whooaaaaaaaa ... vierrraaaaaa whoooaaaa.... he comes from senegal.. he plays for arsenal ... * =D

i don't follow him in inter... but i'd love his experience and bite.. sure his engine and industry will have waned but viera has skill as well... and could well go on to also mould diaby and set him on course...

also if it means paving a way back for TH14 .. all the better ! Utd has scholes and giggs playing limited roles why not viera and TH14 ? =)

these players ooze class and they both deserve exception to the rule of not resigning players by AW.. they could do well to retire here... but seeing how AW can move on toure.. i doubt the move will happen .. but will be happy to see it happen =)
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It would be great to see Vieira back at the club for sure. With his experience, he could definitely mould the younger ones to be the solid midfielder he is. Let's see if the deal matures in the next few days!
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Vieira... sounds too fairy-tale like to be true to us arsenal fans... i wont really trust this news, but i was wrong to think toure wont be sold to man city.. if vieira is back, i will be 50% happy already for the season. get players we love, but not winning league, we wont be too sad wont we? smile.gif
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Back in his heyday, Vieira definitely had the engine as what Chronic mentioned, and while not your typical Gerrard/Lampard all action type, he definitely chipped in a lot with breaking up opposing play and starting counter attacks with his long strides forward.

I suppose he would have to adapt his game and focus more on the defensive duties if he were to come back, as the team now and the invincibles play a totaly different brand of football, but equally appealing (Er, of course effectiveness is still a vast difference lah blush.gif )

I personally don't think it'll happen, but I certainly would like it to happen.
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i wonder if viera would become captain if he come back to arsenal...
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Viera is the legend i won't forget smile.gif

hope he coming back from inter milan
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According to reports in The Sun, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger wants to bring Patrick Vieira back to the club. The Inter Milan midfielder is also currently a target for the Gunners' local rivals Tottenham.

source : SKYSPORTS

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wow viera powerhouse back at arsenal
wat a prospect
reduces the weight on fabregas in midfield for sure
arshavin and fab would have more room for goal spree if viera in the lineup
hope he returns,we clearly need his experience.
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Yea it's also on the espnsoccernet news, but the one that strike me is last sentence:

"The Arsenal side, who have just lost Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor,
have not won any silverware since Vieira scored the winning penalty
in a shootout against Manchester United in the FA Cup final in 2005."

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yeah THIERRY HENRY NEXT ON DA LIST!!!
i would nt put much trust when he's on the filed, but on the coaching side for song and denilson it's a big +!

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woohoo...i don mind vieira one bit even though he is not the same as b4 n is injury prone.....he is a massive2 influence inside the dressing room!!!come on AW!!!act fast!!!
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hleb sent back to stuttgart!!

i fukken ROFLMAOed!
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hleb sent back to stuttgart!!

i fukken ROFLMAOed!
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sweat.gif doh.gif He really gone back Stuttgart on loan meh? If like tht, really sad to hear tht for him. Cause his football career was on the rise when he left Stuttgart for Arsenal. And in Arsenal, it continue to rises till he left for Barca. But at Barca, he get less chance play and now back at Stuttgart? He must be regretting a bit for leaving Arsenal plus going rclxub.gif
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Hleb did expressed his regret over his move to Barcelona. even said Arsene is like a father to him

to be honest i take him back for anything below 5 million. he is better than other option on the wing bar Andy now
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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Jul 30 2009, 07:44 PM)
Hleb did expressed his regret over his move to Barcelona. even said Arsene is like a father to him

to be honest i take him back for anything below 5 million. he is better than other option on the wing bar Andy now
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Doubt Barca will sell him back cheaper to us than when they brought him from us, 12m right last season?
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Doubt Barca will sell him back cheaper to us than when they brought him from us, 12m right last season?
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we have enuff of wideman..btw he hate london weather.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ohhisee @ Jul 30 2009, 09:17 PM)
we have enuff of wideman..btw he hate london weather.. biggrin.gif
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Is it him who complain about London weather? Nolah, his the one who complain about how busy London is. The one tht complain about the weather is Reyes laugh.gif

Anyway, whatever happen to Reyes anyway?
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QUOTE(jim18992 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:24 PM)
Is it him who complain about London weather? Nolah, his the one who complain about how busy London is. The one tht complain about the weather is Reyes laugh.gif

Anyway, whatever happen to Reyes anyway?
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Rosicky injured again doh.gif

Supposedly something "minor". But we'll see if he will be ready for the start of the season never mind the Emirates Cup next week.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jul 30 2009, 09:40 PM)
Rosicky injured again  doh.gif

Supposedly something "minor". But we'll see if he will be ready for the start of the season never mind the Emirates Cup next week.
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i watched vieira play in inter a few times last season... he was playing a little bit of attacking role instead of DM position.. and 1 thing i notice was, he was slow... im not sure if the pace of the game is slow or wat (maybe im used to EPL).
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Arsenal's Tomas Rosicky Suffers Further Injury Setback
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jul 30 2009, 10:03 PM)
i rly hate rosicky 1 de lo..last season din play at all but get paid every week...if i am wenger, 1st to sell is rosicky shakehead.gif
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Btw Astro will be showing our Emirates Cup games but they will all be DELAYED. No LIVE.

Arsenal vs Atletico Madrid (Delayed), 1st August, 11.10 pm, Astro Supersport (Ch 811)

Arsenal vs Rangers (Delayed), 3rd August, 1.40 am, Astro Supersport (Ch 811)

I guess its streaming then for people like me who wanna catch the matches LIVE sad.gif
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Vieira back to Arsenal? Now thats some sensational news. As long as i've supported Arsenal, i've not heard of any ex-Arsenal players rejoining them, not even the great Ian Wright.

I have mix feelings about Paddy rejoining us. I think age is catching up and he's no longer the player he used to be. He used to be the midfield maestro breaking up play and the link between defence and attack. So for a 33 year old midfielder who's known to be quite injury prone, to be back playing in the toughest league, i think its abit too much to ask for. At the same time, i'm excited to see Paddy back in the line up. He's like a brotherly figure among all Arsenal players back then. He'd stand up for them, let the ref know exactly what he feels, he'd throw in challenges that will make Denilson's tackle look like childs play and the way he leads the team...he lets the football do the talking. Much like what Keano used to be for Man Utd. I think Wenger can use him as a bit player and allow him to impart some experience on the younger players.

I hope Vieira choses his club sensibly and NOT join Spurs at all cost. In our minds, he's an Arsenal legend in the making, and if he ever joins Spurs, i think the Gooners will have a hard time not to hate him. He should join us and be a legend here.
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I seldom watch Astro Live matches after I know www.myp2p.eu laugh.gif

I've checked on soccernet.com article on Vieira's prospect coming back to Arsenal. There is no direct quote from Vieira or AW/Arsenal. Surprisingly, it was Ian Wright's quote sweat.gif

Vieira set for sensational return to Arsenal?

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Former Arsenal skipper Patrick Vieira could be set for a sensational return to the club after reports that manager Arsene Wenger is considering a swoop for the midfielder.

The 33-year-old midfielder has had a tough time with Inter since joining them in 2006 - despite winning three Italian league titles - and has just over 50 appearances in the last three years.

Vieira is available on a free transfer and he is keen to link up with a club that would offer him the chance to prepare for the World Cup in South Africa next year.

Tottenham Hotspur also registered an interest last week and, the Frenchman is reportedly being offered a pay-as-you-play contract at the Emirates, similar to the one offered by the White Hart Lane club.

Gunners' legend Ian Wright claims that the deal could be on.

"I'm hearing Vieira, pay-as-you-play, back at Arsenal," Wright exclaimed on his Talksport show. "That's what I'm hearing, and that's what I'm hoping."


The Arsenal side, who have just lost Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor, have not won any silverware since Vieira scored the winning penalty in a shootout against Manchester United in the FA Cup final in 2005.
Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716


Added on July 30, 2009, 10:25 pm.... and BTW, I never read any official statement stating that AW does NOT sign ex-players.

Anyone mind showing me?

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Gunners boss will not definitely enter the transfer market

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has revealed he will not definitely enter the transfer market to replace Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor.

Toure completed his move to Manchester City on Wednesday, following Emmanuel Adebayor in joining the big-spending Eastlands outfit.

Gunners boss Wenger has come in for criticism for allowing the duo to leave after only signing Thomas Vermaelen from Ajax this summer.

But despite suggestions that Arsenal's squad lacks strength in depth and experience, the Frenchman maintains that he will not resort to panic buying.


Wenger, who has been linked with ex-captain Patrick Vieira, told the club's official website: "I feel we are strong enough but if we can add then we will do it.

"In England people think that all the problems can be sorted out by buying players.

"I believe the biggest target is to work hard in training, improve what we can improve and have confidence in the players that we have.

"If we need to add then we will. We have money available so for us it is now [important] to spend it in the right way when we do it or if we do it."

Arsenal have refused to comment on the reports about Vieira, who is keen to leave Inter Milan.


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where do you guys stream live matches anyway..

im missing all the gunners pre season exploits... sad.gif
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www.justin.tv or www.ustream.tv

or you have p2p livestream can find for links at www.myp2p.eu
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usually they got that iraqtv streaming.. also u can check www.myp2p.eu.

Club remains silent on viera... i think he is on the way! wink.gif

btw... kudos to toure.. says all the right things. thanks for all the memories. wink.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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He said: "I was the last one in the 'Invincibles' team (the Arsenal side that went a whole season unbeaten in the league) and I was expecting to leave Arsenal. I think Arsenal are a really good team, but it was the right time for me to move.

"First I thought I did not want to leave England, even though other teams came in for me. But it was important not to leave for me and my family. Manchester City are a really good team and want to do something. I am really delighted to be here, the future is big.''


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I am so happy to see hleb on loan to Inter.Hahaha....Chances for him to lift up UCL for the 2nd time with barca is totally gone in the next season..
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OMG AW IS BACK WITH HIS FAMOUS COMMENT!!!!

He told the club's official website: "I feel we are strong enough but if we can add, then we will do it.

"In England, people think that all the problems can be sorted out by buying players.

"I believe the biggest target is to work hard in training, improve what we can improve and have confidence in the players that we have.

"If we need to add, then we will. We have money available so for us it is now [important] to spend it in the right way when we do it or if we do it."
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Guys it seem , rosicky is fit and will play =/

Heres the source

http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/0...ll-play-in.html
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ok i was seriously flipping out when i read that ross is out again, but it seems that it was all pure rumours? good then rofl, the last thing i need to hear now is further injuries to our players. the departure of toure saddens me... but please no injuries!

and regarding paddy back to arsenal... nah... that cant be true, right? wenger never does those kinds of things... right..?

if he ever wants to get an ex-player back, he's better off with a younger one. flamini.

random: lol i just had to get this in here, i hate how the FM arsenal is very like the real arsenal. injuries every week. let's hope this season we change it eh? get the wisdom teeth off, mate!!

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I'm still waiting for someone to enlighten me with fact that shows AW does NOT buy ex-player.

Seriously, out of the 20 English clubs' managers, who really have bought back their ex-players? (Spurs maybe?... but with different managers).

Personally, it's not that the manager doesn't want to buy back ex-players, it's just that there plenty other alternatives elsewhere.

As for AW, he hasn't buy any ex-player before, but that doesn't mean he will NEVER do so smile.gif
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I'm still waiting for someone to enlighten me with fact that shows AW does NOT buy ex-player.

Seriously, out of the 20 English clubs' managers, who really have bought back their ex-players? (Spurs maybe?... but with different managers).

Personally, it's not that the manager doesn't want to buy back ex-players, it's just that there plenty other alternatives elsewhere.

As for AW, he hasn't buy any ex-player before, but that doesn't mean he will NEVER do so smile.gif
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I think arsenal still need a backup center defender, don't they?
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why don't we get Tony Adams, Anelka, Martin Keown, Wright & Pires to strenghten the club. LOL

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QUOTE(s|dE @ Jul 31 2009, 01:46 AM)
The white pyjammies look better when worn, but I still think redcurrant shorts would look better than slate grey.

QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 31 2009, 08:00 AM)
From what I see, Arsenal has enough backup CD. I'll say we need an established CD who does not mind being rotated (for the benefit of the team)
From what we've seen so far, it's likely that Vermy will be partnering Gallas as our first choice CB pairing. During the Barnet game Vermy seemed a bit out of place with the team but with 3 games now he looks pretty at ease. Having said that, there are still times when our defence fails to work as a unit regardless of individual brilliance, even in non-competitive matches such as our warmup games.

The rumour factories have been working overtime these days, with Paddy's probable return, Tommy and previously Dudu's "injuries", and the latest recycling of De Rossi links. Pfffhhh...

In terms of forwards we probably have more than enough. Midfield is a bit worrying as we've only got 8 spots (Fabs/Denilson/Song/Theo/Diaby/Andy/Tommy/Nasri) vying for 4 positions, that's excluding Ramsey and Wilshere who both are less likely to get much first team action compared to the others. CB seems adequately covered (Gallas/Vermy/Silv/JD/ ?Song) although Sendy may still leave while Gallas may also leave in a season's time, but let's worry about the latter when it happens.

The fullback position is more worrying. We've got 3 players (Clichy/Traore/Gibbs) for the LB yet we've only got Bak on the right if Eboue leaves. There's no one in the reserves who seems capable of a "Gibbs" on the right, so if we truly have money to spend we'd better get some cover for the fullbacks as well as a utility midfielder to plug the gaps should anyone gets injured again. If only Bischoff was more patient then maybe he'd get some showtime.

Alt Madrid will be our first real test. Hopefully it will be a match reminiscent to the Inter game during our inaugural Emirates Cup where Gibbs skinned seasoned veterans in his debut and the audacious Robin trick, rather than the bore fest of last season's tournament.

By the way, Vermy's gonna wear 5 this coming season... No surprises there. Apart from that I don't think there will be any changes to shirt numbers. We've still got 13 and 25 to fill up... maybe Gibbs will get a promotion too.

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I am so happy to see hleb on loan to Inter.Hahaha....Chances for him to lift up UCL for the 2nd time with barca is totally gone in the next season..
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so is tommy injured or what? first i read he is injured. suddenly he is fine again.. sounds like dudu's story.. ah well. i want vieira back, i liked him. and we need the exp
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if we need exp what we need to do is lvling =P
i agree with SGhazzer, we need decent backup
for the right back position as Eboue seems like he will leave us.

for DM, i will put my trust on Song or Denilson
to buck up for the new season and other position is fine.
i don't mind if wenger want to add one or two more players though.

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QUOTE(Mie @ Jul 31 2009, 10:48 AM)
if we need exp what we need to do is lvling =P
i agree with SGhazzer, we need decent backup
for the right back position as Eboue seems like he will leave us.

for DM, i will put my trust on Song or Denilson
to buck up for the new season and other position is fine.
i don't mind if wenger want to add one or two more players though.
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so is ross fit or not? lol i'm confused...
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no la..injury prone oso...worse than owen doh.gif

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he said he is not injured. we shall see tomorrow then, if he plays against atl madrid


Added on July 31, 2009, 1:34 pmok, so i just checked out wikipedia, and under patrick vieira it says...

Patrick Donalé Vieira (born 23 June 1976 in Dakar)[2] is a Senegalese-born French-Cape Verdean football midfielder who currently plays for Arsenal and the French national team.

and his current club is arsenal. hmm

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the best defense is to attack more, the 2CB and 2fullbacks can kautim at the back, so that the forward can push up..
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jul 31 2009, 12:49 PM)
no la..injury prone oso...worse than owen doh.gif
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He's not injured... just the media churning out rubbish as usual. Arsene has already used him against Barnet and there's no reason to risk him in non competitive matches during our Austria tour.

Tommy replied on his official site that Arsene has decided rest him and Clichy for the Emirates Cup.
http://www.rosickytomas.com/novinky/dostal...na-emirates-cup

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"I thought that I would spend more time on the pitch (against Barnet) and then the two matches that followed I had to watch from the stands"

“I was also ready for Wednesday's match in Hanover, but the coach decided that I, as well as Gaël Clichy will get a chance to play at the weekend in the Emirates Cup tournament” he said.

"There is a difference when one has an eighteen-month break from football, even if he is healthy. We had intensive training, a few games then more exercises. I hurt all over. For four days I could not really run. We were so tired that we did not have the mood for any fun”

But I am fit, which is the most important thing now."

http://arsenalanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/0...ll-play-in.html

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Added on July 31, 2009, 1:34 pmok, so i just checked out wikipedia, and under patrick vieira it says...

Patrick Donalé Vieira (born 23 June 1976 in Dakar)[2] is a Senegalese-born French-Cape Verdean football midfielder who currently plays for Arsenal and the French national team.

and his current club is arsenal. hmm

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As for Clichy, read the above about what Tommy said. It's too soon to know who is going to start vs Everton; but we'll have a better idea of who will be our starting 11 and our formation during the Emirates Cup.


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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Jul 30 2009, 12:15 PM)
actually, lorik cana's name has been one that was bandied about in forums and rehashed newspaper reports from newspapers like the dailymail and the sun in addition to his all famous youtube videos that makes him out to be a real monster. i enjoy that video actually.. heheh.. but to be honest, i haven't actually heard wenger say that he's really interested in cana (please correct me if i'm wrong).
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Its not worth it to talk bout a guy who looks good in you tube videos. We can always judge him playing for the Black Cats.

QUOTE(sigheart @ Jul 30 2009, 10:13 PM)
Btw Astro will be showing our Emirates Cup games but they will all be DELAYED. No LIVE.

Arsenal vs Atletico Madrid (Delayed), 1st August, 11.10 pm, Astro Supersport (Ch 811)

Arsenal vs Rangers (Delayed), 3rd August, 1.40 am, Astro Supersport (Ch 811)

I guess its streaming then for people like me who wanna catch the matches LIVE  sad.gif
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The first match against A Madrid is live. Cos the time matches the one on Arsenal.com
The second one is definitely delayed.
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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger could be interested in spending big and signing Roma midfielder Daniele De Rossi.

Wenger could have as much as €47 million (£40m) at his disposal after the sales of striker Emmanuel Adebayor and defender Kolo Toure to Manchester City.

The majority of the money received may be used in a bid for De Rossi, according to The Independent, with an offer of around €35 million (£30m) speculated.

The figure would eclipse any previous transfer fee spent by the north London outfit and will need to be in order for the Lupi to even entertain parting company with the 26-year-old.

Gunners boss Wenger is keen to add some grit to his midfield and could get both aggression and creativity from the fiery Italy international, who is invaluable to the Giallorossi and regarded as one of the finest talents in the national setup.

Saint-Etienne holding midfielder Blaise Matuidi has also been linked with a move to the Emirates Stadium today, while rumours persist suggesting club legend Patrick Vieira could return to his spiritual home as he appears set to leave Inter this summer.

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AW has never spent so much. Will it change? Let's see... but I doubt it. biggrin.gif
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Is this De Rossi guy really that good for AW to spend that amount of money?
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de rossi to arsenal? dont see that coming. but not too long ago, if u told me arshavin was coming, i wouldn't believe it either =P
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I'm half happy and half sad to see our players injured

Happy because we could see new faces sooner

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I think arsenal should get Viera again since he is free right now.

We need a monster midfielder which we are lacking right now and i miss the good old days where Arsenal VS ManU will turn into a boxing match.
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I think viera will not good like before but his experince needed for our young player..
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cant wait for tomorrow emirates cup..hope our team perform much better in this pre season tourney biggrin.gif
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So an Arsenal fan managed to snap an interesting pic during one of our pre-season games. Does this particular fan know something we don't ? Or is he just a moron who jumped the gun biggrin.gif You decide hmm.gif

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let put our memory to the invincible player...this is the list where they are now.. smile.gif smile.gif
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off topic, Sir Bobby Robson - the ex newcastle manager died after long battle with cancer.

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So an Arsenal fan managed to snap an interesting pic during one of our pre-season games. Does this particular fan know something we don't ? Or is he just a moron who jumped the gun  biggrin.gif You decide  hmm.gif

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off topic, Sir Bobby Robson - the ex newcastle manager died after long battle with cancer.

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Arsenal To Move For Saint-Etienne's Blaise Matuidi & Inter’s Patrick Vieira

this is what i want!! bring in a fresh face and a mentor for the DM/CM position. biggrin.gif then we can drop Song to backup CB also. smile.gif

35M for De Rossi.... obviously u don't know wenger! AW won't pay 20M for Arshavin.. and waited til the end of transfer window to close the deal. no way he gonna spend 35m on 1 player. huhuhuhu



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and de rossi doesnt even worth that much lol
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good read... something all fans should understand...

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Over the past few years, and in the face of competition from clubs who are happy to sell themselves out to become a rich man’s plaything, Arsene Wenger and the Gunner’s board of directors have tried to adopt a model of running the club on sound business principles and as a viable going concern. Wenger is left to get on with footballing matters and the board take care of the business end of things. Arsenal supporters ought to be very proud of this set-up. From its rise to prominence in the 1930s under the leadership of Herbert Chapman the club has always prided itself on doing things "the right way" and what Arsene Wenger has achieved over the last 12 years verges on the miraculous considering how frugal and shrewd he has been in his transfer dealings. During all that time, the current board have not taken money out of the club in dividends and no one person holds overall majority control. These are things that should be looked upon favourably.

Some might be seduced by the claims that Usmanov has been making through the press and via his financial advisor Fahrad Moshiri. (Why should we take anything this individual says seriously anyway? He is a nobody.) It seems quite clear that the Uzbeck is rocking the boat for his own personal motives rather than for the greater good of Arsenal Football Club.


more at...

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wth? eboue is not even worth 9million?

they gotta be kidding me

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5463646,00.html
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 1 2009, 12:01 AM)
wth? eboue is not even worth 9million?

they gotta be kidding me

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screw them.. they didnt even give us melo
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Gracias for all the memory that they have given to us.

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There's news flying around that we've made an 11M bid for Chamakh. Nothing concrete atm but we'll see how this plays out biggrin.gif
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Arsene Wenger has refused to rule out a move for former Arsenal midfielder Patrick Vieira.

The lack of experience in Wenger's squad has become a talking point in recent times, particularly since the departures of Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Adebayor to Manchester City.

Vieira left the club four years ago, joining Juventus and later Inter Milan, but he has been linked with a move back to the Premier League after an injury-plagued 2008/9 campaign.

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has made no secret of his interest in the Frenchman but Wenger believes he would only want to play for one team if he returned to England.

A pay-as-you-pay deal has been mooted and Wenger has now admitted that he will have to seriously consider the matter.

"There is a football decision and there is a psychological impact on a player of that stature that could come in," said the Gunners boss.

"But at the moment we need to look at the level of experience in your squad to make this kind of decision.

"We are nowhere near to making a decision like that, but it is a possibility.

"We do not rule it out and we do not say we will do it - and that is my decision at the moment."
Legend

Wenger remains in regular contact with Vieira and is aware that he experienced a difficult season with Inter.

"I speak to Patrick, I speak to many players who have been here because I keep good connections with them," he explained.

"He has gone through a difficult period as well in the last season. I am aware that he wants to come here.

"I think Patrick is a legend here and he would always like to come back to this club. That would be his first choice.

"With emotion you always like the club you spent time (with).

"But as a professional as well, you always give 100 per cent for whichever club you sign for."

However, Wenger insisted: "Our focus should not be who can help us from outside, but who can help us from inside.

"We need a strong start and it is important that we do not dream too much and win our games in pre-season."



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Which further justifies Arsene's decision to dismantle the unbeaten team. Apart from Titi who managed to regain his fitness, form, and glory at Barca (and to a lesser extent Cole); the other players are obviously on the decline due to various reasons.

Great piece about Kolo,
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There's a paragraph about Paddy which I fully agree:
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It is perhaps then understandable that the mischievous rumours surrounding the possible return of Patrick Vieira have been greeted with misty eyed acclaim. The first thing to say is that this snowballing rumour began with some innocuous and typically ill thought out words from rent-a-quote Ian Wright- Arsenal legend doubtless, but his musings as a media pundit are fatuous at best. Patrick Vieira was one of the greatest Arsenal players I have ever seen, if not the greatest. However, I would ask serious questions if these rumours had any credence (which I sincerely doubt they do). The fact is, even in his last season at Arsenal, Vieira`s physicality clock appeared to be ticking towards midnight in Premiership in Greenwich Meridian Time. Four years later and Vieira now finds himself physically obsolete in the painfully slow Serie A, led to the knacker yard by Inter Milan. I hear many counter pose that Vieira could play the midfield destroyer role, relying on younger legs around him. If that`s such a fantastic idea, then why isn`t Mourinho trying it at Inter? At the age of 32, even the eminently intelligent Gilberto found the position tough going, so I cannot see how a declining Vieira would magically make amends. His injury record since departing these shores has been appalling- as is usually the fate of box to box midfielders- their careers decline at an earlier age. (See Keane, Rosyton circa 2003-05 for a fitting example). If you`re giving me the choice between a rapidly improving Denilson (who A Cultured Left Foot does a brilliant piece on today- illuminating that Arsenal conceded a goal every 157 minutes with Denilson in the side and a goal every 19 minutes in the games in which Alex Song was preferred to him) and an unfit Vieira in the autumn of his years, I would not deliberate for very long. People are often fond of the old "ahh, but what about his influence on the training ground?" mantra, to which I can only answer, what the hell are the coaching staff there for? Why the need for such atavism when we already have the relics from Arsenal`s past such as Bould and Rice on the training pitch?

Note that it's more evident now that it's Paddy's camp that approached our club for a possible deal, rather than Arsene desperately wants to recruit Paddy once again.

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Yes, I'd be very very disappointed if Arsene went back for Vieira. Makes absolutely no footballing sense whatsoever. Song and Denilson are much better players than the current Vieira. You all know how it was like with Silvestre last season.
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it's not so much of getting Viera to be our 1st choice... but rather a good, solid backup player with vast experiences in many finals and head-to-head encounters. I'd take that!

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Aug 1 2009, 11:19 AM)
Yes, I'd be very very disappointed if Arsene went back for Vieira. Makes absolutely no footballing sense whatsoever. Song and Denilson are much better players than the current Vieira. You all know how it was like with Silvestre last season.
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If given choice, i'd rather choose Vieira. We need him as an experience player. Song & Denilson need him as mentor in DM department, Cesc need his advisory in leadership as an ex-captain. AW need his service as a backup player. Not to mention he can join us for free. Beside you, can you tell me who else doesn't think this is an interesting deal? tongue.gif

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Viera joining arsenal? that would be interesting IMO.. he is a great player and a great leader.. shud be a good mentor to ur youth side too..
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Yes, I'd be very very disappointed if Arsene went back for Vieira. Makes absolutely no footballing sense whatsoever. Song and Denilson are much better players than the current Vieira. You all know how it was like with Silvestre last season.
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no, i think this is the best choice AW has. I do not see any midfielder market can offer what vieira can offer to the club.
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QUOTE(EmaNLeTo @ Aug 1 2009, 12:17 PM)
Viera joining arsenal? that would be interesting IMO.. he is a great player and a great leader.. shud be a good mentor to ur youth side too..
too bad keano retired oredi.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 1 2009, 11:47 AM)
it's not so much of getting Viera to be our 1st choice... but rather a good, solid backup player with vast experiences in many finals and head-to-head encounters. I'd take that!
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I won't doubt the fact that he has the experience but even with all the experience in the world if your body and physical attributes can no longer keep up and complement your experience its virtually useless. Even with your experience you can predict what an opponent is gonna do but if your legs or body just won't obey its pointless, at least on the pitch. Much younger, faster opponents will just run rings around you. Moreover if he comes in at backup the likes of Ramsey will pushed further down the pecking order which is not something I'd want.

If its for the sake of passing on his experiences as well as being a mentor in educating our youngsters we are better off employing him as one of our backroom staff.
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I won't doubt the fact that he has the experience but even with all the experience in the world if your body and physical attributes can no longer keep up and complement your experience its virtually useless. Even with your experience you can predict what an opponent is gonna do but if your legs or body just won't obey its pointless, at least on the pitch. Much younger, faster opponents will just run rings around you. Moreover if he comes in at backup the likes of Ramsey will pushed further down the pecking order which is not something I'd want.

If its for the sake of passing on his experiences as well as being a mentor in educating our youngsters we are better off employing him as one of our backroom staff.
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i got 2 words for u.. Gilberto Silva. He was declining in terms of performance but his presence and experience on the field help us, and help make Flamini looks godlike. It was losing him that cost our DM/CM position to haywire last season. Not flamini. I think Denilson or Song would've been better had Gilberto stayed another season and rotate with them.


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i got 2 words for u.. Gilberto Silva. He was declining in terms of performance but his presence and experience on the field help us, and help make Flamini looks godlike. It was losing him that cost our DM/CM position to haywire last season. Not flamini. I think Denilson or Song would've been better had Gilberto stayed another season and rotate with them.
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i very much doubt that. Matty was the perfect partner for Cesc the season before last. people may say it's because we have Hleb and Tomas played very well also that day and made Matty looks good but that is just dismissing Matty contribution IMO. similarly, people may say last season Denilson performed just as well if not better than Matty in the season before last statistic-wise. but i don't think anyone need statistic to see that Denilson just now compliment Cesc well last season, subsequently making us very weak at the middle of the field. statistic is just numbers for me, of course it has it purpose but it is not be all and end all on how you access players performances

for example, last season we managed to get ourselves into the semi finals of 2 major competitions and also qualifying for the CL qualification round. statistic-wise it's not that bad of a season, but truthfully it's anything but. make no mistake about it, we were quite bad last season

we were a fool to have to let Matty go for free, that much i can be very sure of
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and i very much agree with you
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 1 2009, 11:11 AM)
Which further justifies Arsene's decision to dismantle the unbeaten team. Apart from Titi who managed to regain his fitness, form, and glory at Barca (and to a lesser extent Cole); the other players are obviously on the decline due to various reasons.

Great piece about Kolo,
http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=515437

There's a paragraph about Paddy which I fully agree:

Note that it's more evident now that it's Paddy's camp that approached our club for a possible deal, rather than Arsene desperately wants to recruit Paddy once again.
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A great read, my friend! Thanks for sharing this insightful article and i must say the writer hits the bulls eye in terms of observation and expressing his views on the Vieira issue.

While its also very true to read that Man Utd's assets are the likes of Fletcher, O Shea, Carrick and given a tast, they'd perform. It isn't so much of Ronaldo, Rooney and etc. Similarly, Arsenal should be buying such players, someone who'd perform a given task.
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Just wonder if Viera come back, No.4 is no longer his.
Is that OK with him?
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Just wonder if Viera come back, No.4 is no longer his.
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if he does come back, the captaincy is no longer his too... the one who took his number 4 is the capi. i think he will be ok with that too tongue.gif
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were we a fool for letting matty go for free? we did offer him an improved contract but he don't want it. He chose to leave us.

We also offered Adebayor a new deal... and u guys know how that turns out.. rite? Matty could just be like adebayor... 1 hit wonder.

Don't u ever wonder why wasn't he a vital part of AC Milan midfield? he's a utility player there. The coach even said that he will be used as RB next season if they don't resolve their situation.

so to me, it wasn't our fault flamini walked away. Do u seriously think that AW will offer Flamini a better deal than Cesc? heck. no way.

ok.. seriously, i don't wanna talk about matty. the possibility of having him back is zero. But.. possibility of having Viera back is maybe 50-50. biggrin.gif so, i definitely would love to see Paddy back in Arsenal colors. If we can get 20 to 30 games from him, i'd say that's a good deal already. We need him in those 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 games. he could be the impact player. he might've lost a few steps but we shouldn't worry about that. It was his ability to read games that makes him a legend. Much like Bergkamp.



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were we a fool for letting matty go for free? we did offer him an improved contract but he don't want it. He chose to leave us.

We also offered Adebayor a new deal... and u guys know how that turns out.. rite? Matty could just be like adebayor... 1 hit wonder.

Don't u ever wonder why wasn't he a vital part of AC Milan midfield? he's a utility player there. The coach even said that he will be used as RB next season if they don't resolve their situation.

so to me, it wasn't our fault flamini walked away. Do u seriously think that AW will offer Flamini a better deal than Cesc? heck. no way.

ok.. seriously, i don't wanna talk about matty. the possibility of having him back is zero. But.. possibility of having Viera back is maybe 50-50. biggrin.gif  so, i definitely would love to see Paddy back in Arsenal colors. If we can get 20 to 30 games from him, i'd say that's a good deal already. We need him in those 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 games. he could be the impact player. he might've lost a few steps but we shouldn't worry about that. It was his ability to read games that makes him a legend. Much like Bergkamp.
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With Flamini, he left us for a bigger contract, as simple as that. Our contract was there for him for him to sign, definitely lower than what AC Milan offered but what we offered that Milan could not guarantee is regular football. Sometimes i just don't know why players who had 1-2 good season would suddently think they're above the club and demand an impossible contract. What they don't realise is we can guarantee them a future. I'm sure had Flamini stayed, he would have been a regular in the French team. Compared to now, he's only had a handful of games and might even be played as RB. What do you think his national team future holds for him.

With Ade, its a bit different. He was basically playing to hop into a bigger club thats all. I don't think he whole heartedly wanted to finish his career in Arsenal. He's like riding on a donkey and hoping to find a horse that he can hop on to. He publicly flirted with other clubs especially Milan when he says Milan interested in him is like Beyonce having a crush on him. You know Arsenal fans, or just any other fans in the world. They never ever want a half hearted player in their club. Trust me, when Ade returns to Emirates for a game, he'll be given the same treatment as Ashley Cole gets. I do think that if Ade gets a good year in City, similarly, he'll be flirting with other clubs. I see players like him as mercenaries with no emotional ties to the club.
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 1 2009, 05:28 PM)
were we a fool for letting matty go for free? we did offer him an improved contract but he don't want it. He chose to leave us.

We also offered Adebayor a new deal... and u guys know how that turns out.. rite? Matty could just be like adebayor... 1 hit wonder.

Don't u ever wonder why wasn't he a vital part of AC Milan midfield? he's a utility player there. The coach even said that he will be used as RB next season if they don't resolve their situation.

so to me, it wasn't our fault flamini walked away. Do u seriously think that AW will offer Flamini a better deal than Cesc? heck. no way.

ok.. seriously, i don't wanna talk about matty. the possibility of having him back is zero. But.. possibility of having Viera back is maybe 50-50. biggrin.gif  so, i definitely would love to see Paddy back in Arsenal colors. If we can get 20 to 30 games from him, i'd say that's a good deal already. We need him in those 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 games. he could be the impact player. he might've lost a few steps but we shouldn't worry about that. It was his ability to read games that makes him a legend. Much like Bergkamp.
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bro, i said "we were a fool to have to let him go for free". we should have offered him the new contract sooner. le Boss challenged Matty to prove he worth the new contract, Matty proved it and our offer was a little bit too late for his liking.

and we were a fool to let go 3 very good central midfielders in the space of 18 months without any good replacement ready

and we were a fool to not be able to keep the midfield that work so well for us in the season before last to built on it as a platform and building something great for the seasons coming after that

i honestly cannot see the logic behind your choice of Adebayor for the new contract offer thingy. Adebayor fully deserves to get the new contract that he demanded as he did performed very very well the season before last. are you suggesting not to award the players who performed very very well with a new contract? le Boss did this with Bak and Gael IINM

on the contrary, i do not see why the players like Theo and Robin justify their status as among high earners in our squad. both never have a truly amazing season with us, but yet they are among the highest earners in term of salary in our club. i did not see many in here complaining about that. is it because both are fan favourites?

re : Paddy. i'd love to have him back. his name and Jens's are next on the list of my the Invincibles Arsenal N&N collection

giotto bro, Milan was Matty's boyhood club IINM. and he is from Italian descendant . surely that counts for something other than the bigger contract, no? and Milan is a bigger club than us. it's not rocket science really why Matty left

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QUOTE(giotto @ Aug 1 2009, 05:45 PM)
With Flamini, he left us for a bigger contract, as simple as that. Our contract was there for him for him to sign, definitely lower than what AC Milan offered but what we offered that Milan could not guarantee is regular football. Sometimes i just don't know why players who had 1-2 good season would suddently think they're above the club and demand an impossible contract. What they don't realise is we can guarantee them a future. I'm sure had Flamini stayed, he would have been a regular in the French team. Compared to now, he's only had a handful of games and might even be played as RB. What do you think his national team future holds for him.

With Ade, its a bit different. He was basically playing to hop into a bigger club thats all. I don't think he whole heartedly wanted to finish his career in Arsenal. He's like riding on a donkey and hoping to find a horse that he can hop on to. He publicly flirted with other clubs especially Milan when he says Milan interested in him is like Beyonce having a crush on him. You know Arsenal fans, or just any other fans in the world. They never ever want a half hearted player in their club. Trust me, when Ade returns to Emirates for a game, he'll be given the same treatment as Ashley Cole gets. I do think that if Ade gets a good year in City, similarly, he'll be flirting with other clubs. I see players like him as mercenaries with no emotional ties to the club.
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Like it or not, we have a wage structure that AW has to respect. Lets face it, we're not a rich club, neither are we being funded by some rich tycoon. As such, we cannot compare our finance along with the big guns like AC, Real, Barca. I think AW has said many times, we're a self funding club. For Flam, i think he made his mind up and our offer for sure isn't gonna be big enough to attract him to stay. Again, we just can't compare our wage structure with the big guns, which again explains why over the years we've missed out on some players that we talked to, but ended up signing with other clubs.

Its easy for stars in Arsenal to name a wage that the club can't offer, just coz they had 1-2 good season. We have a stadium that we funded ourselves and just imagine every other player comes out and say, hey i need payrise else i leave for Barca, Milan, City and etc. Where does this end? Will our club be able to sustain the wage bill?

With Ade, i think after the season he scored 30 goals for us, AW rewarded him with a new contract and i don't see him grumbling for a new contract this season, other than the fact he wished for Beyonce having a crush on him. I think his body language shows it all, he was flirting for a big club and AW thinks its the best time to cash in on him when he's still got the value. Imagine this season we keep him and he scores only 15 goals, his value is probably gonna be halved. With Ade, it was never the wage that made him left, its the fact that AW thinks its the right time to cash in on him, given the circumstances that he openly flirts for a big club. Henry is a model example. He wasn't happy with the lack of trophy especially after the UCL lost in 2006. He stood by us for another year, tried his best and at times his body language shows he's no longer the Arsenal player. He was moody, didnt really celebrate when he score and Barca came in with an offer, AW accepted it and both him and Arsenal moved on. The fact that he didn't openly made his intention to leave Arsenal, didn't attempt to solicit a transfer and even when he left, he left a note to the fans saying how much he loves Arsenal but he has to take up a new challenge in Barca. Till today, i feel he's stil so fond of Arsenal and if i were Pep Guardiola, i might have questions on his loyalty. With Ade, its not the same. I'm quite sure he's not got any emotional links with Arsenal and the fans and even had a parting shot at the club after he left. Thats quite sad considering he was a nobody when he joined us.


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i got 2 words for u.. Gilberto Silva. He was declining in terms of performance but his presence and experience on the field help us, and help make Flamini looks godlike. It was losing him that cost our DM/CM position to haywire last season. Not flamini. I think Denilson or Song would've been better had Gilberto stayed another season and rotate with them.
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Gilberto Silva is a totally different case with Vieira. When we let Gilberto loose he was a player on decline and I agree with you about letting him go a little too early however the Vieira now is a player that has already declined to a point that he has lost it completely in terms of physicality. I'd still be up for a Gilberto return but not the current Vieira. If Wenger had brought back Vieira 2 years ago I would have called it a masterstroke but if he does bring him back now I would call it a lost plot on Wenger's part.

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time change .... u can't expect old rules with modern day...
Money and glory, player life spend is short, they need to make while they can, arsenal have their own salary structure but player have their aim and dream to chase too ....



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giotto, i chose to believe that Matty left primarily because we were late to offer him the new contract. you and sakaito on the other hand chose to believe he left because of the money. nobody knows for sure, but we all know what happen when le Boss did not properly replaced him last season

and i'm not even sure what we are disagreeing with regarding Ade. i only said he justified his new contract with the performances on the season before last. i just not sure why sakaito bro taking his case as example when discussing about not rewarding player with good performance with the new contract

beside, Cesc flirts with the Spain big 2 all the time whistling.gif

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we were a fool to have to let Matty go for free, that much i can be very sure of
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Maybe we were "late" to offer him a contract extension, and maybe it's our board's fault for not matching Milan's deal; in the end the decision lies with the player himself. Had he decided to leave, there's no reason for le Boss to hold onto him.

le Boss clung onto Paddy for numerous seasons until one day he decided that enough is enough, and off he went. When Titi's back and legs showed signs of vulnerability while his heart yearned for a bigger challenge, he was allowed to leave. Bobby refused a 1year extension and left for Spain. Gil was given the opportunity to get higher pay as Panathinaikos offered him a final contract worth more than we would ever give. Those with poor attitudes eg Cole, Hleb, Diarra, Ade, Reyes, Bentley, Pennant etc were all chucked away as soon as the chance arose. No point keeping players who don't have the mentality to don the red-white. Kolo has already stated that the deal was negotiated since January, so it's obvious that he wanted something different and hence Arsene will never stand in his way. Which is pretty suggestive that the day that Fabs announces his desire to return to Catalunya, it will be the day when Arsene flogs him off. We're lucky that our capi's heart is stuck firmly at the Grove for now.

Which comes back to Matty.... after his departure he revealed that playing for Milan was ideal as it fulfilled his childhood dream and also due to his Italian roots. It may be the reason why he chose to leave for Milan despite knowing his chances of a starting 11 position would be severely limited compared to staying at the Grove. If the media articles were trustworthy, our offer was only 5-10K less than what Milan offered him so money might not be as huge a reason as people think, yet who knows? Don't forget Matty never showed any signs of sentiment towards his mentor club, Marseille, so it's not surprising that he chose to jump ship so swiftly.

We could have sold him for a fee before the start of the 07/08 season when B'ham was rumoured to be interested, but I'm glad that we didn't take the money as Matty showed the form of his life in that particular campaign. The only way we could have gotten some money was to get him to sign an extension early that season, so that even if he left at the end we would have gotten some cash; yet things aren't so easily explained and hindsight is often much more lucid (but useless).

The so-called "failure" to replace Matty has already been discussed to death so no point going over it. Again, it's worth knowing that Arsene has seldom replaced like-for-like and instead prefers to tweak his system to fit whatever players we've got. There were hints that we're going for a 3 man central midfield with a 3 prong attack regardless of starting with a 433 or 442, so maybe that's what we're going to do instead of getting another Matty-lookalike (*cough* Cana).

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beside, Cesc flirts with the Spain big 2 all the time  whistling.gif
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To be fair to le capi, he's not the one flirting with the Spanish clubs. Instead it's the Spanish media who loves to ask him about a potential move back to Spain, which he has always been pretty safe and non-suggestive with his answers. We all know he's returning one day, but so far he has done nothing but the right things, i.e. denying any rumours ASAP and reiterating his love for Arsenal.

That's all we as supporters ask.

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giotto, i chose to believe that Matty left primarily because we were late to offer him the new contract. you and sakaito on the other hand chose to believe he left because of the money. nobody knows for sure, but we all know what happen when le Boss did not properly replaced him last season

and i'm not even sure what we are disagreeing with regarding Ade. i only said he justified his new contract with the performances on the season before last. i just not sure why sakaito bro taking his case as example when discussing about not rewarding player with good performance with the new contract
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Back to Flamini departure talk, huh?
What really happened was behind the screen. What we, as fans, could see were:
1. Flamini played decently on LB (Arsenal reached UCL final but Ashley Cole played on that game - tactically decision or biasness?)
2. Flamini demanded NOT to play out of position and a new (and improved) contract. AW challenged him to perform in CM position before handing him a contract.
3. Flamini played extremely well in CM (partnering Fabregas). (Edited: Arsenal offered him a contract in the end of the season - but was it too late?)
4. AC Milan came in offering to Flamini. Flamini took the offer.

Well, the crucial point was how AW handle Flamini (or the so-called man-management).

- Was AW wrong NOT to play Flamini on UCL final? (Note: Flamini had indirectly brought Arsenal to the final as LB)
- Was AW wrong NOT to award an extension contract after the above UCL success?
- Was AW wrong to challenge (or motivate) Flamini for performance before confirming contract extension?
- ... or Was AW wrong to pay his faith to Flamini to continue excelling in partnering Fabregas? (instead of rotating the task with others, such as Denilson, Diaby tongue.gif )

Oh well, it's too late for all these discussions.


On Ade, no doubt he was a monster; scoring 30 goals in a season but what make a player great is consistency. The rest, I guess I'll let you guys to elaborate. The bad part was the way how he used to flirt with the media and other clubs, seeking for attention.


SonnyCooL has raised a valid point for further discussion. Professional players' lifespans are short and modern football is different nowadays. Much much more $$$ is around for grab. The question is on "money/glory vs loyalty"

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Well, the crucial point was how AW handle Flamini (or the so-called man-management).

1- Was AW wrong NOT to play Flamini on UCL final? (Note: Flamini had indirectly brought Arsenal to the final as LB)
2- Was AW wrong NOT to award an extension contract after the above UCL success?
3- Was AW wrong to challenge (or motivate) Flamini for performance before confirming contract extension?
4- ... or Was AW wrong to pay his faith to Flamini to continue excelling in partnering Fabregas? (instead of rotating the task with others, such as Denilson, Diaby tongue.gif )

Oh well, it's too late for all these discussions.
On Ade, no doubt he was a monster; scoring 30 goals in a season but what make a player great is consistency. The rest, I guess I'll let you guys to elaborate. The bad part was the way how he used to flirt with the media and other clubs, seeking for attention.
SonnyCooL has raised a valid point for further discussion. Professional players' lifespans are short and modern football is different nowadays. Much much more $$$ is around for grab. The question is on "money/glory vs loyalty"
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1. Despite Matty's reasoanable appearances as substitute LB, he's no Ashley Cole who was arguably a much better defender. It was a tactical requirement. For what it's worth, people have been discussing the withdrawal of Pires that led to his departure, but under those circumstances Pires who offered the least defensive cover had to go. Therefore it's not surprising that Matty had to make way for Cole.

2. Arsene was not entirely wrong not to offer any extensions after the CL. Note that it was only Matty's 2nd year at Arsenal so no point offering a huge extension like what Fabs got. In fact to be fair to Arsene, you have to question a player's commitment if he refuses to comply to the manager's demands (ie requiring him to play in other positions).

Titi showed doubt that he could play upfront while Lauren was bewildered when asked to play RB, but both showed that Arsene was correct. There's every chance that Matty might have been a good LB, although personally I don't think so as his LB deputy days were at most decent yet not outstanding.

3. Arsene's move was actually smart as it brought out the best in Matty. He was subsequently offered an extension based on his improved performance, but who knows whether it was a matter of too little or too late? Or both? Or neither? In the end it was the player's decision to leave and we have to accept that.

4. Had Diaby not got injured, had Gil not came back late, had Denilson not been so young; Matty probably would have never gotten his chance to shine. He took his chance well, but the rest is history and no point dwelling about it. Players come and go, and for every player that leaves the Grove there are many more who will die to wear the club's colours.

As for the question of money vs loyalty, it's a hard one to answer. No one can fault Ade for leaving for the reported 170K/week paycheck - put yourself in his shoes: If your rival company comes in with twice the salary for a similar position, would you not consider? It's how he carried himself on and off the pitch that irks fans, although I must say the animosity shown by some towards the Togonator throughout his Arsenal career could have fueled the fire as well.

Money works both ways too... We all know that Fabs is a vital part of the team: He loves the club, the fans love him, the manager nurtures him, he has the world at his feet here. If a stupid offer like say 100M pounds comes in do you think Arsene would not consider regardless of Fabs's desire to stay? I'm not saying that Arsene will definitely accept the cash, yet see what happened to C.Ronaldo and Kaka and one will realise that money can sway decisions, be it the player's or the manager's.
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IMO we should never allowed Matty to go to his last year of contract like we did. he was a very capable squad player to say the least at that time and any club needs a very capable squad players to win trophies

and we did discuss the failure to replace Matty to death if you like, but the fact remains that last season was a poor season by our standard. and i believe based on the almost all our matches that i watched last season the poor season that we were having was primarily due to the failure to hold on to the very successful midfield that we have on the previous season before it

i never said we have to replace "like-for-like" but we should replace Matty's place in the centre of midfield with a proven players. you tweaked the system when your players are good enough, but you must bring in replacement when your players are not good enough to play in the system that you want

on Cesc issue, Ade also reiterate his desire to play for us whenever those kind of rumours flying around. people just chose to ignore it. but the fact that we sell him, not he requested to leave make me a little bit calm at heart. because it is very rare for Arsene to get it wrong whenever selling players. and i sure hope for our sake the 2 purchases Citeh made from us fall in the same group

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It's a bit tight on the upper body though it may be intended (I mean it's the design). Anyone bought the jersey? Share your thought please biggrin.gif
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4. Had Diaby not got injured, had Gil not came back late, had Denilson not been so young; Matty probably would have never gotten his chance to shine. He took his chance well, but the rest is history and no point dwelling about it. Players come and go, and for every player that leaves the Grove there are many more who will die to wear the club's colours.
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this is very true. in fact, there was a quote from le Boss indicating that Abou was the 1 planned to be the starting partner for Cesc during the season before last. but he was injured, Matty brought into the starting position and the rest is history.

and also agree on your last sentence there. players come and go, i will support them as long as they wear our colors. heck, i support Silvestre whenever he plays for us. that says a lot IMO biggrin.gif

can't wait for tonight. it's been a while since i last watched our match rclxm9.gif
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IMO we should never allowed Matty to go to his last year of contract like we did. he was a very capable squad player to say the least at that time and any club needs a very capable squad players to win trophies

and we did discuss the failure to replace Matty to death if you like, but the fact remains that last season was a poor season by our standard. and i believe based on the almost all our matches that i watched last season the poor season that we were having was primarily due to the failure to hold on to the very successful midfield that we have on the previous season before it

i never said we have to replace "like-for-like" but we should replace Matty's place in the centre of midfield with a proven players. you tweaked the system when your players are good enough, but you must bring in replacement when your players are not good enough to play in the system that you want

on Cesc issue, Ade also reiterate his desire to play for us whenever those kind of rumours flying around. people just chose to ignore it. but the fact that we sell him, not he requested to leave make me a little bit calm at heart. because it is very rare for Arsene to get it wrong whenever selling players. and i sure hope for our sake the 2 purchases Citeh made from us fall in the same group
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Matty chose to go and there's not much the club could have done to prevent that. An earlier contract perhaps, more pay maybe, but again at the end of the day if a player chooses to leave it's better to seal a deal quickly and move on. It's not unlike what happened to Edu - utility man in the past, one good season, late contract offer, and the player's gone. Maybe it shouldn't be allowed to recur on Matty, but again hindsight is often 20/20. We're not directly involved in the contract negotiations so it's hard to fathom what really went on with the talks.

I agree that last season was a poor one regardless of the achievements in the tournaments, yet it's not solely due to Matty's departure or the failure to replace him. There are many other reasons involved which we've already gone through in the old threads. Those who've been involved in this thread would already have known that I'm a Flamini fan but I must admit that his importance has been overrated due to our underwhelming performance last season. It's undeniable that Matty's partnership brought out the best in Fabs, yet the Fabs-Matty partnership was never as good as Paddy-Gil or even Paddy-Petit in the past.

Matty's departure is a blow to the team, but I'd like to see it as an opportunity for Arsene to try something new. With both Denilson and Song gaining a year of experience in top flight football, Diaby's hard work in summer, Tommy's return to fitness, and of course Arsene's decision to try a different formation; there is something worth looking forward to this coming season instead of dwelling on the "failure to replace Flamini" issue. If anything, we've also "failed to replace" Thierry Henry but that's easier said than done.

I won't touch on Ade as like you, I've defended him enough in the past. He chose to leave and honestly it'll be hard for me to wish him good luck as City's splurges may possibly make them a threat to us. Not forgetting that when his head is screwed on he's a lethal striker.

So no, no good luck from me to you Ade... tongue.gif And may you continue the lazy runs for City like you did for us vs MU in the CL.

QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 1 2009, 09:16 PM)
OT: My gf has just surprised me with a brand new Arsenal Jersey (blue) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

It's a bit tight on the upper body though it may be intended (I mean it's the design). Anyone bought the jersey? Share your thought please biggrin.gif
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A new blue Arsenal pyjamas.

You're making me bleed with envy.
Maybe you should put your gf's name on the back haha... on second thoughts, better not. Looks henpecked.

Pictures of the jersey please. laugh.gif

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ade signed a new contract the season before the 30 goals. then after the 30 goal season, he and his agent flirt around and then asked for new contracts. go figure.

u said that the 30 goal season justified his demand for a raise? then how about this season? can we walk in and say, well... u did ok but not up to par, so can we renegotiate your contract to pay u lesser?

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toshio

ade signed a new contract the season before the 30 goals. then after the 30 goal season, he and his agent flirt around and then asked for new contracts. go figure.
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i always thought he get the 80k/week (allegedly) after the season that he scored 30 goals. that(getting a payrise after an excellent season like that) for me is justifiable

QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 1 2009, 09:46 PM)
u said that the 30 goal season justified his demand for a raise? then how about this season? can we walk in and say, well... u did ok but not up to par, so can we renegotiate your contract to pay u lesser?
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as a matter of a fact, i would very much like that to happen. but sadly that is just not how things work in this world that we live in. if that the case, believe me Robin will be on a downward trend for all his time with us bar this past season biggrin.gif

SG, we did not replace Thierry but we did replace his goals during season 07/08. it almost proves enough to win us the league again

anyway, could not wait for the match tonight. anybody have the squad list for tonight?





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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 1 2009, 09:16 PM)
OT: My gf has just surprised me with a brand new Arsenal Jersey (blue) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

It's a bit tight on the upper body though it may be intended (I mean it's the design). Anyone bought the jersey? Share your thought please biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 1 2009, 09:16 PM)
OT: My gf has just surprised me with a brand new Arsenal Jersey (blue) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

It's a bit tight on the upper body though it may be intended (I mean it's the design). Anyone bought the jersey? Share your thought please biggrin.gif
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Added on August 1, 2009, 11:01 pmany good stream?

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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 1 2009, 10:12 PM)
sigh.. lucky. my bf wont buy arsenal jersey for me.  sad.gif said he wont go near the jersey


Added on August 1, 2009, 11:01 pmany good stream?
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Check in Iraqi goals.

Their streaming very good.
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Any good streaming guys??
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i have got the world's suckiest stream unfortunately
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http://www.justin.tv/keeperlive1/old

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robin's kid is adorable... that said, the stream is crappy. all the streams are crappy sad.gif
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 1 2009, 10:12 PM)
sigh.. lucky. my bf wont buy arsenal jersey for me.  sad.gif said he wont go near the jersey


Added on August 1, 2009, 11:01 pmany good stream?
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Change bf lol... biggrin.gif

Better streams here:
http://www.atdhe.net/#

The first one's from justintv but the quality is a bit off. The second one is from ustream, while the 3rd one is in a foreign language but the quality is better. I'm going for the 3rd one despite not understanding one word of the commentary.
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http://www.justin.tv/dragon_lion/old

english. but it buffers
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 1 2009, 11:23 PM)
Change bf lol... biggrin.gif

Better streams here:
http://www.atdhe.net/#

The first one's from justintv but the quality is a bit off. The second one is from ustream, while the 3rd one is in a foreign language but the quality is better. I'm going for the 3rd one despite not understanding one word of the commentary.
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Added on August 1, 2009, 11:33 pmsaw on arseblog that sendy signed for everton... ?

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my screen has been frozen on rosicky's ass for the past 2 minutes. i like rosicky's ass (lol) but i would much rather see his face!
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Back from yumcha session, now tuning to the match biggrin.gif

Gonna upload my photo with the new jersey.

Any suggestion what number to put? (My gf dunno anything about football. I told her about number on the back of the jersey and she said, "Huh? Got number one meh?" doh.gif )
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this 1 seems good... juz the commentator... yeah.. who care...
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rosicky 1st goal refree count as offside sad.gif


both team playing so far so good...

arsenal attack more advance

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 1 2009, 11:48 PM)
Back from yumcha session, now tuning to the match biggrin.gif

Gonna upload my photo with the new jersey.

Any suggestion what number to put? (My gf dunno anything about football. I told her about number on the back of the jersey and she said, "Huh? Got number one meh?" doh.gif )
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kimhoong: arshavin's number seems very popular these days.. smile.gif

btw watching the match now... rosicky is having a great match! really like a new player to arsenal.. biggrin.gif
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the past 4 matches that i has to stream from arsenal tv were waaaaay way better than this. clear. no lag

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van persie not playing well hmm.gif

like lackness something
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rosicky is doing well. cant wait to see him play when season starts... and proper streaming comes
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this is really good. no lag, clear =)

http://www.atdhe.net/8252/watch-arsenal-vs-atletico-madrid


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HALF TIME ARSENAL 0-0

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 1 2009, 11:48 PM)
Any suggestion what number to put? (My gf dunno anything about football. I told her about number on the back of the jersey and she said, "Huh? Got number one meh?" doh.gif )
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Put your name followed by your favourite number loh...

Or choose a favourite player.

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van persie not playing well  hmm.gif

like lackness something
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Lack space to operate. Lack through passes from the midfield. Lack a clever runner like Dudu/Andy.

But it's not Robin's best performance either... hopefully he'll have a better second half.

Ramsey looks much beefier compared to the time when he first joined, stronger in his tackles, but he still seems out of tune with the first team but it's probably due to the lack of time playing together with the big boys. Aaron's passing today is a bit off and hence both our strikers didn't receive much ammo.

I'm impressed with Eboue and Nicky today. Both of them were everywhere on the pitch, and the most interesting fact is whenever Nicky runs towards the right flank Eboue appears on the left. A midfielder interchanging with a striker... weird. And we truly missed Tommy's energy in midfield last season - with him pulling strings our midfield has so much more pace. I'm also liking the fact that Nicky and Robin defend from the front, throwing themselves into tackles whenever the ball is lost.
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jack, clichy, merida in. lol, clichy thought it was his num when they showed merida's
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Now thinking of Number 23 hmm.gif

Where to get those numbers? How much? Al-Ikhsan?
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1 on 1 miss !


van persie free kick shot wide sad.gif


fabgreas coming ON!!! Ecuardo coming ON!!!

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 2 2009, 12:41 AM)
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Now thinking of Number 23 hmm.gif

Where to get those numbers? How much? Al-Ikhsan?
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Fab for Ramsey
Arshavin for Bendtner
Eduardo for Van Persie


Added on August 2, 2009, 12:50 ammerida so close!

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many missed by Arsenal...

but have nice passing although many missed!


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Ecuardo offside second time smile.gif

7minutes left

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From what I see, Arsenal hardly control the game. Plenty of room for improvement.

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arsenal 111111111111111-0

arshavin scored!

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GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARSHAVIN!!!!!! rclxm9.gif
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Arshavin 23!!!

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dem...1-1 now

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back 1 goal down =/
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arshavin again!!!

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LOL 2-1 HAHAHAHA

3 goals in liek????
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and arsene is pissed


Added on August 2, 2009, 1:12 amwhaaaat?? arshavin 2-1!

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN ARSHAVIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif

WHO NEEDS ADA BAYAR? WHEN WE HAVE ARSHAVIN! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Arshavin to the rescue ! ! ! rclxm9.gif

Loving him more and more now...

... but "Arshavin 23" will cost around RM120 shocking.gif
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hehehehehe rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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0-0 for 86 mins, then 3 goals came in a row =) arshavin's second was amazing


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Arshavin to the rescue ! ! ! rclxm9.gif

Loving him more and more now...

... but "Arshavin 23" will cost around RM120 shocking.gif
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Jack Wilshere did very good! Constantly attacking down the flanks with quick feet. And Arshavin... speechless D:
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muahahahahahahhahahahaha.......damn nice!!!i scored 2 beautiful goals!!!thanx u thanx u..... brows.gif


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yes jack did really well, i am really impressed by him, he's so young! motm? cant drink the champagne though tongue.gif

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Besides Arshavin, I thought both Jack and Tomas did quite well. Jack was causing there Madrid's defense all sorts of problems. biggrin.gif
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Didn't see the replays, who assisted the goals? Both goals also nice, especially the second biggrin.gif
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yep.. Wilshere is MOTM... Arshavin.. Russian Assassin... biggrin.gif

that Borya kid pretty good la. just 16 and he's bigger than Djourou.


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Didn't see the replays, who assisted the goals? Both goals also nice, especially the second biggrin.gif
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1st was by Fabregas, 2nd was a present from the Atletico defender biggrin.gif Header back to the goalkeeper gone wrong nod.gif
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2nd goal.. poor backpass. arshavin intercept.. tries to push back to dudu but got goal instead.. muahahahahaha!

now we got 2 impressive scorer.. dudu and arshavin.. impossible goals? not anymore!
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 2 2009, 01:22 AM)
2nd goal.. poor backpass. arshavin intercept.. tries to push back to dudu but got goal instead.. muahahahahaha!

now we got 2 impressive scorer.. dudu and arshavin.. impossible goals? not anymore!
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Added on August 2, 2009, 1:24 amoh btw, kolo got injured playing for city. do i laugh?

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I hate being a party pooper, but the midfield and defence worries me though. We didn't dominate the middle of the park as much as I would have liked, and the 2nd goal was a result of Denilson (I think) losing the ball with Gallas pushing up for a non-existent offside.

And I notice we still can't clear corners properly.
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 2 2009, 01:23 AM)
oh btw, kolo got injured playing for city. do i laugh?
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I catched the last 30 mins. In truth, it was a boring match, except for the last 3 mins. First goal was perfect timing and the way he first time the ball into the net. Brilliant! Second goal shows you that every striker must chase a loose ball and good finishing from Arshavin from an impossible angle. It might just be a friendly but Arshavin showed what is he capable of.
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yep... denilson still look lost in the middle. hoping that Song will do better tomorrow.

Kolo injured? haih... pity him leh.

on the plus side.. Jack and Tommy looks really good!!
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haha i only managed to catch arshavin's 2nd goal, that angle was really difficult. anyone with highlights?
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rosicky...nice curling shoot...long time no see arsenal player score like that..just offside only..hehe..
btw..season seem bright for us..i believe in AW..ya there are several mistake that we should learn in this game..but all the thing cant just be solve by buying buying buying lol..

i believe in our team...because i believe in developing our own player...
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yep.. our team look very promising from the get go... especially Rosicky and Eboue. Please keep Eboue... he is a very good utility player.

poor reyes... kena boo everytime he touch the ball.. then booed off the field. huhuhuuhu
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 2 2009, 01:23 AM)
now just to work on the defense  sweat.gif


Added on August 2, 2009, 1:24 amoh btw, kolo got injured playing for city. do i laugh?
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Johan is clueless when it comes to setting an offside trap. TV must be a starter quality or else moment like Ateltico goal just now will become a normal occurrence for us this coming season

other than the obvious i.e. Andy and Jack finally i can see what make le Boss bring Merida to the club at a very young age. he does looks like an attacking version of the young Cesc

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Where's the article saying he's injured? I want to read about it.  laugh.gif
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wilshere iz ORSM!!!

amazing diplay!! wub.gif
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Apparently Senderos has signed for Everton.

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huh? where u got the news? senderos was there at the emirates.. sitting besides Almunia.
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Apparently Senderos has signed for Everton.

Bye senderos  sad.gif
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got it from arseblog.
just a word of mouth, dont kill me if it's false biggrin.gif
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not sure about tomorrow's match...

btw.. sendy to everton? hmm.. i don't think that's a good move. senderos has been nothing but professional to us and i think he'll do well this year. I'd stick with him another season and see how it goes. but if it's true, then can't say anything.
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come on AW.. bring it on!!! biggrin.gif music to my ears. he is looking to bring someone in... 1 or 2? wow... 1 is good enough.. 2 will be tremendous!

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Any replay guys? Missed the match sweat.gif
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Why Reyes was booed through out the match?
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Arshavin's hard work getting the 2nd goal was great work rate and his angle was incredible. Love to see him play like this the whole season.
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any full highlights? i wanna see that curling offside goal by rosicky again. biggrin.gif
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nice match ^^
when wilshere and merida came in, gunners looked lively.
grats gunners !
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every offensive players doing well ATM...but our defense including DM is not that strong enuf...we need someone lik mikel that is strong to tackle ppl until kaki patah tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 2 2009, 11:04 AM)
any full highlights? i wanna see that curling offside goal by rosicky again. biggrin.gif
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I'm so excited to see Rosicky back in the mix and looking sharp as ever rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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man.. terrific shot from rosicky. really hopeful he can stay healthy.

Arshavin and dudu too... in fact.. the only person i don't care being injured is Diaby. .. and he is injured now!! aih...
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Now to mention,where is Walcott?

Did not see him for some time already.

And the ROsicky goals just show his injury for so long means nothing except making him a better player.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Aug 2 2009, 11:46 AM)
Now to mention,where is Walcott?

Did not see him for some time already.

And the ROsicky goals just show his injury for so long means nothing except making him a better player.
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Arshavin!!! Wow 2 goals, Arsenal is definitely in his blood.

Rosicky - our saviour in midfield smile.gif
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Still feel our defend still shaky.Hopefully tonight, AW will use "suppose to be" 1st team defenders : Sagna, Gallas, TV, clichy.
Jack wilshere look lively playing on the right flank.
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Actually Jack already showed his skills since last season's but what i'm worried is that he's quite small size. But it doesn't matter when i think of Jack a little bit like Messi; small but with quick feet and quick thinking. If only jack can improve more on his finishing then Arsenal will have their own Messi! rclxms.gif
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so we are selling sendy or what now? i am getting mixed reports, and i did see him next to almunia yesterday
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QUOTE(afaris @ Aug 2 2009, 09:59 AM)
Why Reyes was booed through out the match?
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Review of our match last night, gonna do something different this time than the usual TGTBNTU.

Attack:
Lots of good movement but still lacks the penetrating through passes that Bergkamp, Pires, and even Fabs used to do. With no smart runners like Andy or Theo or even Vela, Robin and Nicky had no one to pass to. Robin didn't play well as a target man, while Nicky's passes didn't exactly work out as well as he intended. The lack of spark from the midfield didn't help either - Ramsey who's supposed to be the creative playmaker wasn't on the same wavelength as the others and hence made lots of stray passes. Eboue had lots of charging runs yet lacked end product. Tommy was our best attacking player but he will need more games to establish a partnership with the other players after being absent for so long. Wilshere is a phenomenon but his physique is still not suitable for regular action, he'd get flattened in no time.

Defence:
Apart from the snooze that led to Madrid's goal, our defence wasn't too bad to be honest. It probably still lacks the stability that we desire, but it's something that we can work on. I'm more worried about the rumoured departure of Sendy and Eboue as this makes our defence look paper thin. Forget about Chamakh, get some defensive players in please Arsene !!

Individual performance:
1. Mannone - During the preseason games he actually looks more commanding than last season's Fabianski. It'll be a good fight for Manny's deputy position I reckon. Didn't really do much wrong yesterday, and he had no chance with Madrid's goal.

2. Bak - Same old Bak, solid in defending, crap in crossing.

3. Gallas - Lost Pacheco and led to the goal, other than that there wasn't much errors to pick on. Vermy is likely to be his partner rather than JD though.

4. JD - He actually resembles Kolo a lot with his fast reactionary style rather than solid, positional defending like Sol/Tony (even Sendy) before him. Will he start ahead of Vermy? I doubt, as the Belgian seems more solid than JD at least in the preseason games.

5. Traore - Lacks the interception skills of Clichy/Gibbs, but makes it up with more speed and better attacking play. Maybe he really should be treated as a deputy for the LW rather than LB, I don't know.

6. Eboue - Great link up with Bak, and surprisingly drifted all over the midfield. Very hardworking yet lacks the end product as his runs and passes all ended up nowhere.

7. Denilson - Split opinions as usual, but it's pretty much the (improved) Denilson that we've seen last season. Quiet and anonymous at times, but managed to put in a couple of decent tackles to stop the opponent's attack. Some may say he's at fault for the goal we conceded, but for me Fabs and Gallas were equally at fault there.

8. Tommy - Best player in the first half. Showed us what we missed for 1.5 years. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant... can't wait to see the combo between him, Andy, and Fabs.

9. Ramsey - Looks stronger than last year, more imposing in terms of physicality and tackles but his passes were all over the place. Attempted several great runs off the ball but no one really picked him out. He has much to do if he wants a first team spot.

10. Nicky - Like Eboue, he was all over the place working hard chasing every ball. Too bad like Eboue, there wasn't enough end product today. He will benefit from having a partner who makes runs like Andy/Vela/Dudu, but not when partnering Robin who's doing a similar job as he is.

11. Robin - Alt Madrid stuck a man onto him wherever he went and hence there wasn't space for him to operate. Disappointing freekicks which all hit the wall too. Not his best game either.

12. Clichy - Good old Clichy, lots of interceptions... can't complain much about him. Learn from him, Armand !!

13. Wilshere - Beyond belief. He's doing things that even Fabs didn't do at 17... crazy dribbles, looping passes, one-two touches... Had he been 5 years older he'd walk straight into the first team; yet it's probably not the time to expose him too much to prevent burnout and injuries.

14. Merida - Played the Ramsey role in the second half and did a better job than the Welshman. His fame may not be as prominent as Ramsey and Wilshere, but he deserves a spot in the first team, although not necessarily the starting 11 yet. MERIDA 13? tongue.gif

15. Fabs - Didn't exert enough influence as we know he is capable of, but great vision to pick out Andy's run and pin point accurate cross for our first goal. Still, he didn't help out enough in the midfield in terms of defending so it's still a long way for him before we can call him Xavi MKII.

16. Andy - Did nothing until the 2 vital goals. His ability to conjure something out of nothing overwhelms his anonymity in certain games than he can't be arsed, and hence he'll start every game whenever fit and available.

17. Dudu - Like Andy, he virtually did nothing in the game although the Russian got himself 2 goals. Too isolated up front, or maybe he truly needs a deep operating partner like Nicky for support.
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14. Merida - Played the Ramsey role in the second half and did a better job than the Welshman. His fame may not be as prominent as Ramsey and Wilshere, but he deserves a spot in the first team, although not necessarily the starting 11 yet. MERIDA 13? tongue.gif
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tonight got live on astro?
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City-boy Toure: Gunners lost too many leaders

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716


ahh, i guess it's the latest trend now.
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 1 2009, 09:16 PM)
OT: My gf has just surprised me with a brand new Arsenal Jersey (blue) rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

It's a bit tight on the upper body though it may be intended (I mean it's the design). Anyone bought the jersey? Share your thought please biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(plokoon @ Aug 2 2009, 06:53 PM)
If you are interested, Nike Malaysia has brought in the ladies jersey for the 08/10 Arsenal home jersey. Surprisingly they only do so  now instead of last year. You could return the favour and buy one for your gf. Price is RM199.  smile.gif
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oh really? i was looking for ladies jersey for myself, cant find. any idea where they sell it?
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oh really? i was looking for ladies jersey for myself, cant find. any idea where they sell it?
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It's true. The particular Nike store that I went to was the one at Genting Highlands. I was there yesterday. Sizes are still available. You could try checking out Nike stores at Pavillion, KLCC, Gardens or Mid Valley. I'm sure they will have it as well.


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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Aug 2 2009, 12:41 AM)
Time to show-off tongue.gif

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Now thinking of Number 23 hmm.gif

Where to get those numbers? How much? Al-Ikhsan?
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we can geng.. hehe
put arshavin 23, same like mine thumbup.gif
the name and numbers can get at R1 or alikhsan in bb plaza
price is rm6 per letter and 35 per number if not mistaken and epl patches cost 49 per pair

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QUOTE(afiqkhairi @ Aug 2 2009, 07:10 PM)
very nice bro kimhoong
we can geng.. hehe
put arshavin 23, same like mine  thumbup.gif
the name and numbers can get at R1 or alikhsan in bb plaza
price is rm6 per letter and 35 per number if not mistaken and epl patches cost 49 per pair
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To add on what afiq has mentioned, for jersey not bought from R1 BB Plaza, the price per letter would be RM7 and RM37 per number. However, this doesn't apply for Al-Ikhsan BB Plaza.
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QUOTE(plokoon @ Aug 2 2009, 07:03 PM)
It's true. The particular Nike store that I went to was the one at Genting Highlands. I was there yesterday. Sizes are still available. You could try checking out Nike stores at Pavillion, KLCC, Gardens or Mid Valley. I'm sure they will have it as well.
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pyramid dont have? its the nearest to my hse
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pyramid dont have? its the nearest to my hse
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now toure also.. haih..

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716
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Joining tevez eh?
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 2 2009, 08:01 PM)
More about Kolo's rant:
http://www.arsenalinsider.com/?p=5689

Kolo, you better keep your mouth shut before it taints your reputation as an Arsenal legend. Don't you ever forget it's Arsene and Arsenal that made you the player you are today, and no, we didn't spend a lot of money on you nor the unbeaten team.

Maybe Arsene was right to sell Ade and Kolo after all, they might be the ones who are disrupting the 'band of brothers' atmosphere in the dressing room after their antics which started since the start of the year.
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cant help it when that is the truth
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if u all read my link before..there are state that kolo,adebayor and eboue make dressing room problem...u all can read it smile.gif

ya agree with u..toure better keep his mouth shut...haih..leave kutuk leave kutuk...sudah leave got banyak gaji..diam better la toure..

make me hate u a little bit...sien
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what wrong with toure ? that is FACT .....
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Thanks for those suggestions on my new jersey (in fact, this is my first jersey after supporting Arsenal for 10 years - 10 years anniversary?)


Back to Arsenal Talk.

I understand that some hate Diaby but from the clip on how Nasri got his injury, I shall defend Diaby this time. The ball was on Diaby foot and he wanted to kick/pass it, Nasri came from behind to challenge it. Anyway, the clip is blurry and I may be wrong interpreting the situation. Any seconder?


This is what I really dislike on those who left Arsenal: Stop pushing Arsenal down to lift you up! You played proudly in Arsenal jersey, you will be still respected once you leave - please spoil your reputation among Arsenal fans for the sake of media publicity. ... and I do not mean this for Toure only.

(edited): Maybe I should focus a bit on Toure. Personally, I think Toure meant the fact too... but he did launch some negativity onto Arsenal in his statement. Please, you are now a Manchester City player, start talking about it instead of Arsenal. Thank you.


Thanks StarGhazzer's detailed review of the previous match. I really didn't pay much attention due to the laggy streaming. At least, from your review, we know that it's not really all is bad in Arsenal after all. We still have the players who help us to challenge the EPL flex.gif


So now, what is your realistic aim that Arsenal can achieve in the new season?
Due to recent development in transfer, I am a bit conservative in our aim for the new season. I would like to see that Arsenal can retain in Top 4. This is my realistic aim.

Of course, I would be extremely happy if we can achieve more than that such as winning the EPL/UCL/FA Cup/League Cup etc...

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So now, what is your realistic aim that Arsenal can achieve in the new season?
Due to recent development in transfer, I am a bit conservative in our aim for the new season. I would like to see that Arsenal can retain in Top 4. This is my realistic aim.

Of course, I would be extremely happy if we can achieve more than that such as winning the EPL/UCL/FA Cup/League Cup etc...
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i'll wait until the transfer window has shut down for my realistic aim for the season

for now, we have a very good squad but still having at least a couple of positions need to be addressed i.e. DC and MC to be able to challenge effectively for the trophies in this coming season

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(edited): Maybe I should focus a bit on Toure. Personally, I think Toure meant the fact too... but he did launch some negativity onto Arsenal in his statement. Please, you are now a Manchester City player, start talking about it instead of Arsenal. Thank you.

Thanks StarGhazzer's detailed review of the previous match. I really didn't pay much attention due to the laggy streaming. At least, from your review, we know that it's not really all is bad in Arsenal after all. We still have the players who help us to challenge the EPL flex.gif
So now, what is your realistic aim that Arsenal can achieve in the new season?
Due to recent development in transfer, I am a bit conservative in our aim for the new season. I would like to see that Arsenal can retain in Top 4. This is my realistic aim.

Of course, I would be extremely happy if we can achieve more than that such as winning the EPL/UCL/FA Cup/League Cup etc...
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abt toure i think is not major issue, i believe he somehow make the statement to AW before but he ain't get the response ....
Today Toure as an enemy and i truly believe all his word cause enemy analysis you better then anyone, he rather risk his reputation then keep him self quiet, btw Pires said the same thing too .....

back to reality, hopefully arsenal will remain in top 4 in the easy way smile.gif


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QUOTE(plokoon @ Aug 2 2009, 07:03 PM)
It's true. The particular Nike store that I went to was the one at Genting Highlands. I was there yesterday. Sizes are still available. You could try checking out Nike stores at Pavillion, KLCC, Gardens or Mid Valley. I'm sure they will have it as well.
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i saw the arsenal lady shirt too at al-iksan (i think it's the curve or one utama, forgot) - very nice, the shirt! smile.gif
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I also saw Arsenal Ladies jersey too when I was in "window-shopping". I think it's kinda common now but only limited to our Home jersey though.

If you have problem finding it, I suggest you to call the outlet first before engaging it.... if it's really an issue for you to go to a particular outlet, request for a booking.

So kaka91, if you really want to have it in Sunway Pyramid, give a call to that outlet and ask (google the contact number). If they don't have it, ask if you can make a request for them to send it over from other outlets wink.gif
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team for later : Almunia; Eboue, Gallas, Silvestre, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Merida; Wilshere, Arshavin; Eduardo.

looks good. now the problem is to find a decent stream
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Added on August 2, 2009, 10:44 pmyes wilshere starts biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Aug 2 2009, 10:41 PM)
team for later : Almunia; Eboue, Gallas, Silvestre, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Merida; Wilshere, Arshavin; Eduardo.

looks good. now the problem is to find a decent stream
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Let's hope Arsenal sign vieira and those players mentioned...next season we need to fight to stay top 4...with rival team all having restructuring, it is also a good time to win the title. Hopefully they can sign a few players soon and train to be ready for the season starts. Cheers
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i'll be watching the delayed telecast later. i never, and i mean never has any luck with streaming
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what kolo said is arguably true.
but having said that..it doesnt we cant win anything
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semi decent streaming
http://www.atdhe.net/8270/watch-arsenal-vs-rangers-fc


Added on August 2, 2009, 11:10 pmno actually its pretty crap. i liked yesterday's stream, pity i cant find it

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no video on all of my streams sad.gif

ah.. works now using internet explorer


Added on August 2, 2009, 11:14 pmhttp://www.justin.tv/vip_tenisss/popout

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semi decent streaming
http://www.atdhe.net/8270/watch-arsenal-vs-rangers-fc


Added on August 2, 2009, 11:10 pmno actually its pretty crap. i liked yesterday's stream, pity i cant find it
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goal wilshere

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till after the replay on astro smile.gif
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bloody hell THAT was fast! jack 1-0
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just managed to catch the replay. stream is buffering mad
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wow jack wilshere!! what a playa..

i got decent stream, how bout u guys?
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wow jack wilshere!! what a playa..

i got decent stream, how bout u guys?
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im using this link, so far so good

watchable quality too =)
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tonight got live on astro?
don't know if u guys have seen this
nasri breaking his leg



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ish...gonna leave this thread and watch later
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2-0 dudu!!! i hate the stream for makinng me miss that!
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Added on August 2, 2009, 11:37 pmwilshere's vision is not that bad either huh

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did silvestre forget where our net was? lol
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Walcott has got to be afraid... very afraid...
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argh.. so close.. good pass from merida... dudu should've done better...

fark this streaming... argh!
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capello is there to see jack? he is the only english player there right?
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yep... jack could be playing for U19 soon enough.. maybe backup in senior team.

arshavin... joker.. ehehe

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Adoi... Looks like I'll still get high blood pressure next season whenever our opponents have a corner kick...
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almunia, nice hairstyle..


Added on August 3, 2009, 12:02 amwow wilshere?

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yep.. wilshere... damn nice shot!
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aww poor jack. brilliant effort though. true, theo should be shivering..lol
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great ball from wilshere..
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wilshere is full of confidence here


Added on August 3, 2009, 12:05 ameduardo one on one miss hehe


Added on August 3, 2009, 12:05 amHT 2-0 !!


Added on August 3, 2009, 12:05 amnice match hehee ;p

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nice vision from arshavin..hehe..
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aih dudu... nice pass from arshavin...

1st half.. all arsenal! biggrin.gif

i hope wilshere will be patience and wait for his chance. pls don't be another cole or bentley.
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 3 2009, 12:06 AM)
aih dudu... nice pass from arshavin...

1st half.. all arsenal! biggrin.gif

i hope wilshere will be patience and wait for his chance. pls don't be another cole or bentley.
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amen to that!! i cannot bear it if it happens, he is so good biggrin.gif
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I'm still pissed off with the streaming vmad.gif
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im very impressed with wilshere.. he look very confident for a 17 years old.. rclxms.gif

attacking wise, i think we were very good.. but for defence, still got a big question mark there.. haaiihhh... whistling.gif
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kimhoong.. me too! for like 5 minutes it's ok.. then keep buffering.. i switched from streamyx to maxis 3g also same. switched back to streamyx. haih...

maybe i will stay up and see the replay on astro instead.
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ma stream just turned jerky :S

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