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SUSDeadlocks
post Jul 26 2009, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:05 PM)
laugh.gif of course not. I've already stressed that in his other thread. Or maybe ezra is secretly a woman? laugh.gif
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Lol, a woman doesn't go OVER-analytical lar. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 02:16 PM)
Lol, a woman doesn't go OVER-analytical lar. laugh.gif
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Oh, so he's one of the men still trying to figure women out? Lol it'll never work. Reason being that women and men are different. You don't have to understand women to please women and attract women.

So this is a case of the blind trying to lead the blind. Or maybe ezra is imagining himself as a woman and what kinda approach men take with him will make him say yes? laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:25 PM)
Oh, so he's one of the men still trying to figure women out? Lol it'll never work. Reason being that women and men are different. You don't have to understand women to please women and attract women.

So this is a case of the blind trying to lead the blind. Or maybe ezra is imagining himself as a woman and what kinda approach men take with him will make him say yes? laugh.gif
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Yeah, you know Jamien, I will like to participate but...I need to show empathy and side with my fellow genders.

So now I forbid you to be so harsh on him now. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 02:27 PM)
Yeah, you know Jamien, I will like to participate but...I need to show empathy and side with my fellow genders.

So now I forbid you to be so harsh on him now. laugh.gif
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Fine. tongue.gif I just feel it's silly that he doesn't realize that he's also blind as well. Men can't understand women anymore than women can understand men. A good man is not a man who thinks he knows everything about women, but a man who treats women well with all the knowledge he does know about them.
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:32 PM)
Fine. tongue.gif I just feel it's silly that he doesn't realize that he's also blind as well. Men can't understand women anymore than women can understand men. A good man is not a man who thinks he knows everything about women, but a man who treats women well with all the knowledge he does know about them.
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ACTUALLY...I do know a few important things about women though. tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:05 PM)
You've written "face the truth". Now it's time you face the truth. Your work is still flawed. Reality is harsh man.
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I respect your opinion.

Now, I do also appreciate constructive feedback. No ad hominems. If you disagree with any part of the article, do let me know.


Added on July 26, 2009, 3:28 pm
QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:32 PM)
Fine. tongue.gif I just feel it's silly that he doesn't realize that he's also blind as well. Men can't understand women anymore than women can understand men. A good man is not a man who thinks he knows everything about women, but a man who treats women well with all the knowledge he does know about them.
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Woa.What a claim. FFS do you ppl get kicks for putting words in my mouth?

Anyway,I have never claimed to understand women. I still dont. And I probably never will.

That said, I do know what women seem to like in men whom they consider as potential romantic partners.

eg.
1) Men who are secure (emotionally/financially/mentally)
2) Men who know their path/purpose in life.
3) Men who are physically thriving and are reasonably well built (not necessarily muscular, but not frail or too obese)
4) Men who are mentally sound and intellegent - the minute they open their mouth it shows
5) Men who are connected...with friends and support networks. It adds to their personality


...and what women dont like as potential romantic partners:

1) Men who are insecure.
2) Men who are both shorter and lighter than they are.
3) Men who are mentally not thriving... lack of friends.. too much fantasy... lack of social life... it shows when they open their mouths.
4) Men who are not connected...lack of friends and support networks... no personality development.

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 03:34 PM
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 03:21 PM)
I respect your opinion.

Now, I do also appreciate constructive feedback. No ad hominems. If you disagree with any part of the article, do let me know.


Added on July 26, 2009, 3:28 pm
Woa.What a claim. FFS do you ppl get kicks for putting words in my mouth?

Anyway,I have never claimed to understand women. I still dont. And I probably never will.

That said, I do know what women seem to like in men whom they consider as potential romantic partners.

eg.
1) Men who are secure (emotionally/financially/mentally)
2) Men who know their path/purpose in life.
3) Men who are physically thriving and are reasonably well built (not necessarily muscular, but not frail or too obese)
4) Men who are mentally sound and intellegent - the minute they open their mouth it shows
5) Men who are connected...with friends and support networks. It adds to their personality
...and what women dont like as potential romantic partners:

1) Men who are insecure.
2) Men who are both shorter and lighter than they are.
3) Men who are mentally not thriving... lack of friends.. too much fantasy... lack of social life... it shows when they open their mouths.
4) Men who are not connected...lack of friends and support networks... no personality development.
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What about women-abstract-emotional-factors? The very difference how they women are less visual-creature oriented as how most men are.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 03:35 PM)
What about women-abstract-emotional-factors? The very difference how they women are less visual-creature oriented as how most men are.
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I agree completely on this one.
Women place less emphasis on physical appearances than men.

They SENSE a man's self-worth. Not just by physical appearances, but by the way the man interacts and projects himself to the world.

The man who is in control of his life and is THRIVING, with lots of friends, a healthy body, a healthy mind and a healthy social life, will USUALLY be attractive to women...

Just like men want to know more about the pretty/hot girls...women want to know more about MEN who are as described above^

The boy who hasnt yet grown up....eats shit, doesnt exercise, reads manga all day, plays games till 4am everyday, and doesnt go out much, and has almost no friends, will be quite unattractive. Not only reflected by his physical appearance... but by his mind, and ability to maintain conversations... the ability to empathize, click and connect will suffer if you dont have enough sleep and social interaction.

Just like nobody seems to want to ask the ugly girls out for a date... women simply dont want to get to know more about BOYS who are as described above^


LOVE IS BLIND. Attractiveness really doesnt matter when it comes to true love.


BUT

Women are very picky with who they fall in love with...just as guys are very picky with who they are willing to ask out on a date.

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 03:46 PM
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 03:42 PM)
I agree completely on this one.
Women place less emphasis on physical appearances than men.

They SENSE a man's self-worth. Not just by physical appearances, but by the way the man interacts and projects himself to the world.

The man who is in control of his life and is THRIVING, with lots of friends, a healthy body, a healthy mind and a healthy social life, will USUALLY be attractive to women...

Just like men want to know more about the pretty/hot girls...women want to know more about MEN who are as described above^

The boy who hasnt yet grown up....eats shit, doesnt exercise, reads manga all day, plays games till 4am everyday, and doesnt go out much, and has almost no friends, will be quite unattractive. Not only reflected by his physical appearance... but by his mind, and ability to maintain conversations... the ability to empathize, click and connect will suffer if you dont have enough sleep and social interaction.

Just like nobody seems to want to ask the ugly girls out for a date... women simply dont want to get to know more about BOYS who are as described above^
LOVE IS BLIND. Attractiveness really doesnt matter when it comes to true love.
BUT

Women are very picky with who they fall in love with...just as guys are very picky with who they are willing to ask out on a date.
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You were right until you elaborate the details of a man's self-worth.

A man's self-worth is not something objective you can look at.

Get it?
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:52 PM

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By a broad generalization though, he is right! hahaha. True enough the very point of 'how to approach a girl' isn't actually soemthing you can deduce logically and objectively, so any 'guide' given in CC in essence must be based on a broad generalisation, otherwise there will be no 'general' faq we can provide.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 03:49 PM)
You were right until you elaborate the details of a man's self-worth.

A man's self-worth is not something objective you can look at.

Get it?
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Okay, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one smile.gif


I think that a man's self worth is determined by:

1) Physical well being
2) Mental well being
3) Emotional well being
4) Career and security


They are all subjective things. But ya get the jist of the message.


Added on July 26, 2009, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jul 26 2009, 03:52 PM)
By a broad generalization though, he is right! hahaha. True enough the very point of 'how to approach a girl' isn't actually soemthing you can deduce logically and objectively, so any 'guide' given in CC in essence must be based on a broad generalisation, otherwise there will be no 'general' faq we can provide.
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Actually, I was not sure if the title "how to approach" a girl is even suitable given the contents of the thread. I was simply oout of ideas on that one. Perhaps you could give some suggestions on what a title should be.

If you notice... it's really about how to get girls to want to approach you wink.gif

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 04:03 PM
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 03:56 PM)
Okay, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one smile.gif
I think that a man's self worth is determined by:

1) Physical well being
2) Mental well being
3) Emotional well being
4) Career and security

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Not exactly. An arsehole, a jackarse, and a shameless vagabond can have self-worth too, no matter how negative they can be looked upon.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 04:03 PM)
Not exactly. An arsehole, a jackarse, and a shameless vagabond can have self-worth too, no matter how negative they can be looked upon.
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As I said, those features are SUBJECTIVE!!!

Arseholes and jackarses and vagabonds may have other features that compensate for their inadequacies.. NOBODY IS PERFECT.

The arsehole may have a body to die for...and the aura of confidence and masculinity that make girls sweat.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 04:08 PM)
As I said, those features are SUBJECTIVE!!!

Arseholes and jackarses and vagabonds may have other features that compensate for their inadequacies.. NOBODY IS PERFECT.

The arsehole may have a body to die for...and the aura of confidence and masculinity that make girls sweat.
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Like I said, don't bring in objectivities.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 02:34 PM)
ACTUALLY...I do know a few important things about women though. tongue.gif
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like???
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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 26 2009, 04:09 PM)
like???
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Like...(scroll down)

























































































































THEY'RE COMPLICATED!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif

Ouch, head hurts, lol.

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 04:09 PM)
Like I said, don't bring in objectivities.
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doh.gif oh ffs stop nitpicking.

that was just an example.


The core reasoning that a man's self worth is determined by those four SUBJECTIVE characteristics still stands.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 04:13 PM)
doh.gif oh ffs stop nitpicking.

that was just an example.
The core reasoning that a man's self worth is determined by those four SUBJECTIVE characteristics still stands.
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But SUBJECTIVITY is SUBJECTIVITY. Those four are your concluding points to a man's subjectivity, which four conclusions implies such in a way that's objectivity, leaving no room for further subjectivities.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 26 2009, 04:11 PM)
Like...(scroll down)
THEY'RE COMPLICATED!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif

Ouch, head hurts, lol.
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yes they are(which includes me..) tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 26 2009, 04:19 PM)
yes they are(which includes me..) tongue.gif
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Go away lar you. Where's your lou kong? laugh.gif

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