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post Jul 25 2009, 12:06 PM

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Your recent David de Angelo inspiration, ezra?

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post Jul 25 2009, 06:36 PM

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Can't I just stage a "hero saves a damsel in distress" moment with my friends? tongue.gif

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post Jul 25 2009, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 25 2009, 06:46 PM)
LOL..
nice setting to pick,btw...
guess u hv a damsel in mind??? brows.gif
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The damsel must be rich, so I can ask for RM 1,000,000 reward later! Muahahaha! laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2009, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 25 2009, 07:27 PM)
Hobbes FTW laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2009, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 25 2009, 07:42 PM)
Well at least he posted some statements (useful or not up to you) not retarded-but-entertaining-yet-trolling questions. So yeah. laugh.gif
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Lol, that sounded delirious.
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 01:44 PM)
I have to add that david deangelo deals with different content from what I am doing.

Go watch his videos. Summarize his points. Im sure they are differernt from mine.

Look, david's videos are more acceptable as he never touches on sensitive issues. What he speaks is true... There are ways and mannerisms that women do find attractive. But I go one level deeper than that. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, there is only so much that "guts" and "mannerisms" and "posture" could do in increasing your chances with women. At the end of the day it still boils down to the ability to convey an image of success in life. David avoids this as his customers are all paying to see his shows...and he sure as hell doesnt want anyone to feel bad.

I focus on the individual. The core person.

David does eventually touch on similar themes as me.... but he sugar coats it in 1hr+ speeches.

Bottom line end of the day: women dont like losers.

The difference between me and david is that I focus on the characteristics of people who are thriving in life. Something that david wouldnt do directly in front of paying customers. He can talk till the cows come home about confidence, being well groomed, well mannered, having a good posture, and conveying self-worth.... It does not change the fact that underlying all those core elements is physical, mental and emotional wellbeing.


What david deangelo talks about is really easy to follow only IF you are already thriving physically, mentally and emotionally. A hapless loser will not be able to follow david's advice even though he feels good listening to it and reading about it.

David Deangelo avoids talking about those core issues to his paying customers as he KNOWS that many people will be hurt. So yeah. If you want to focus on talking about the superficial because it doesnt hurt your sensitive fragile egos, thenĀ  go watch David Deangelo. like I said, this thread is not for everyone.
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Have you asked a woman's opinion about this?

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post Jul 26 2009, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:05 PM)
laugh.gif of course not. I've already stressed that in his other thread. Or maybe ezra is secretly a woman? laugh.gif
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Lol, a woman doesn't go OVER-analytical lar. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:25 PM)
Oh, so he's one of the men still trying to figure women out? Lol it'll never work. Reason being that women and men are different. You don't have to understand women to please women and attract women.

So this is a case of the blind trying to lead the blind. Or maybe ezra is imagining himself as a woman and what kinda approach men take with him will make him say yes? laugh.gif
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Yeah, you know Jamien, I will like to participate but...I need to show empathy and side with my fellow genders.

So now I forbid you to be so harsh on him now. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 26 2009, 02:32 PM)
Fine. tongue.gif I just feel it's silly that he doesn't realize that he's also blind as well. Men can't understand women anymore than women can understand men. A good man is not a man who thinks he knows everything about women, but a man who treats women well with all the knowledge he does know about them.
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ACTUALLY...I do know a few important things about women though. tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 03:21 PM)
I respect your opinion.

Now, I do also appreciate constructive feedback. No ad hominems. If you disagree with any part of the article, do let me know.


Added on July 26, 2009, 3:28 pm
Woa.What a claim. FFS do you ppl get kicks for putting words in my mouth?

Anyway,I have never claimed to understand women. I still dont. And I probably never will.

That said, I do know what women seem to like in men whom they consider as potential romantic partners.

eg.
1) Men who are secure (emotionally/financially/mentally)
2) Men who know their path/purpose in life.
3) Men who are physically thriving and are reasonably well built (not necessarily muscular, but not frail or too obese)
4) Men who are mentally sound and intellegent - the minute they open their mouth it shows
5) Men who are connected...with friends and support networks. It adds to their personality
...and what women dont like as potential romantic partners:

1) Men who are insecure.
2) Men who are both shorter and lighter than they are.
3) Men who are mentally not thriving... lack of friends.. too much fantasy... lack of social life... it shows when they open their mouths.
4) Men who are not connected...lack of friends and support networks... no personality development.
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What about women-abstract-emotional-factors? The very difference how they women are less visual-creature oriented as how most men are.
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post Jul 26 2009, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 03:42 PM)
I agree completely on this one.
Women place less emphasis on physical appearances than men.

They SENSE a man's self-worth. Not just by physical appearances, but by the way the man interacts and projects himself to the world.

The man who is in control of his life and is THRIVING, with lots of friends, a healthy body, a healthy mind and a healthy social life, will USUALLY be attractive to women...

Just like men want to know more about the pretty/hot girls...women want to know more about MEN who are as described above^

The boy who hasnt yet grown up....eats shit, doesnt exercise, reads manga all day, plays games till 4am everyday, and doesnt go out much, and has almost no friends, will be quite unattractive. Not only reflected by his physical appearance... but by his mind, and ability to maintain conversations... the ability to empathize, click and connect will suffer if you dont have enough sleep and social interaction.

Just like nobody seems to want to ask the ugly girls out for a date... women simply dont want to get to know more about BOYS who are as described above^
LOVE IS BLIND. Attractiveness really doesnt matter when it comes to true love.
BUT

Women are very picky with who they fall in love with...just as guys are very picky with who they are willing to ask out on a date.
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You were right until you elaborate the details of a man's self-worth.

A man's self-worth is not something objective you can look at.

Get it?
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 03:56 PM)
Okay, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one smile.gif
I think that a man's self worth is determined by:

1) Physical well being
2) Mental well being
3) Emotional well being
4) Career and security

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Not exactly. An arsehole, a jackarse, and a shameless vagabond can have self-worth too, no matter how negative they can be looked upon.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 04:08 PM)
As I said, those features are SUBJECTIVE!!!

Arseholes and jackarses and vagabonds may have other features that compensate for their inadequacies.. NOBODY IS PERFECT.

The arsehole may have a body to die for...and the aura of confidence and masculinity that make girls sweat.
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Like I said, don't bring in objectivities.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 26 2009, 04:09 PM)
like???
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Like...(scroll down)

























































































































THEY'RE COMPLICATED!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif

Ouch, head hurts, lol.

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post Jul 26 2009, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 04:13 PM)
doh.gif oh ffs stop nitpicking.

that was just an example.
The core reasoning that a man's self worth is determined by those four SUBJECTIVE characteristics still stands.
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But SUBJECTIVITY is SUBJECTIVITY. Those four are your concluding points to a man's subjectivity, which four conclusions implies such in a way that's objectivity, leaving no room for further subjectivities.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 26 2009, 04:19 PM)
yes they are(which includes me..) tongue.gif
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Go away lar you. Where's your lou kong? laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 26 2009, 04:23 PM)
u ask me...i ask who le???
all i know he's bz....

u bully me, i'll report to him later.. laugh.gif
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Lol, don't derail other ppl's topic now.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Jul 26 2009, 04:30 PM)
you derail 1st 1 le...

anyways...CONFIDENCE is the key to make girls want to know you(for any guys)
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So lanci, you go and make a new thread lor, lol. laugh.gif
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 04:41 PM)
doh.gif whateverla.
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Ezra. Maybe...it's time to stop writing to us? Instead of saying IMHO, put your ideas to the test, and then explain your moments and experience acquired.

Men who are busy at DOING SOMETHING in real life WILL HAVE NO TIME WRITING in a forum.
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post Jul 26 2009, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ezralimm @ Jul 26 2009, 04:50 PM)
doh.gif Alright. Enough. Im not going to reply to this anymore.

Post some constructive feedback about the main article and I will reply. Do quote what you have a problem with.

WHERE THE HELL IN THE MAIN ARTICLE AM I CONTRADICTING MYSELF?

Why do you keep trying to discredit me?

Did i hit a nerve?

Dude, im not trying to insult anyone. Just posting what I see as truth.
From now on I will not argue on semantics. You can make all the claims you want. I dont give a shit anymore. It's pointless arguing over semantics.

The words mean what they mean in the english language. Check a dictionary if you dont understand.


Added on July 26, 2009, 4:53 pm

Believe whatever you want if discrediting me makes you feel better about yourself.
It does not change the validity of anything I have said in the main article.

I cannot discuss any personal experiences here with my real name.

If you really really want to know, add me on facebook or something and I wouldnt mind having a chat sometime. My name is Ezra Limm on facebook.
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But you see...ad hominem is the only way people will TRUST you.

What do you think this is? An intellectual debate? Where substance of intellects must be taken importantly irregardless of the person conveying it?

That's not how real life is man.

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