Blah blah blah,you just like to make things so complex.

You have no definition of thriving.So,is a good student considered as thriving? Or a man who just started his business and doing well? What happens if one arent a good student or doing badly in his business? They dont deserve to have someone and deserve to die alone?

Besides,a person who is not thriving now,doesnt mean that that person will not thrive in the future.On the other hand,a person who is thriving now doesnt mean he will still thrive 10 years from now.Things change with time and shit happens.

So,now,i have to think am i thriving? Am i 5 cm shorter than the girl i like?

Why bother to make life so complicated? If life is so complicated,i might as well dig a hole and bury myself then.

Your threads never helped anyone and you never have the intention to help anyone.You are just trying to belittle people with lower confidence.Make them feel like shit.Make them overanalyse a situation and screw their lives.You never talk about be yourself and just plaigarise other forumer's idea because their ideas arent so bitter to swallow.

In the end,you are just a guy who sits behind a computer and think out all these "theories".Just a keyboard warrior.Thats why you never want to reveal your love life,because you dont have one and always worry about this and that.

Ezra, something about communication you have to understand is that delivery is often more important than content. You have your points, but how you deliver them may undermine its potential or even worse, its actual meaning.

I think if something needs to be pinned up for guys, it should be this: http://artofmanliness.com/

seriously...
I got bored reading some of its content.
I rather watch Oprah four times a day.
but you're right with the 'delivery'. It is much more to the attitude of the delivery.

Ezra, your ideas are pretty good in the sense that everyone with confidence, attracts people. But seriously I don't know if you agree that wanting to approach someone requires more than that.
And one thing that I wished not to correct, but I think every person needs to know that the fictional character "Hitch" never taught his client to date someone "his own league" and then regret why he did not try to date someone that he really want to be with.
Honestly I've read one of your post you've mentioned David de Angelo. If you idolize him why not you read his book? I've read and I can tell that your methods are enough just to approach a girl, but not enough to start a relationship.

TS , do u think that actually people can get it from internet? isnt that too basic? lets have some pua terminology here.

So that's why they say, "Those who can't, teach".

AHA!

And you're saying "be yourself"?

u still can b urself after changes/enhancement/improvement...

u dun hv to fake anything...u r still u r wat u r...just, a better u compared to previous u...it's a good thing i would say...

for those who refuse to embrace d idea of changes/enhance/improvement...u can always stay in ur stoneage...just a quote i find quite true...

“In times of change learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists.” Eric Hoffer

man.....do you REALLY need a guide to approach girls?

Man..this is kinda gay....

It ain't hard to approach people, just have confidence. Geeezzz

I don't understand why this is a "danger sign".

everybody talking about confidence...den where d hell dis confidence comes from???

it must b from some qualities u already hv...

just for those who find themselves having less of these qualities...it's time to buck up and improve...get more skill or watever shit...

I didn't get real confidence until there came points in time where I was tested to my limits. And I'm not just talking about getting grades or winning first place kind of thing or army bootcamps where you stay awake for three days. I'm talking about situations where if you lose, you DIE, or a person you care about DIES.

This put a LOT of things into perspective. For all my faults and flaws, no matter how "uncool" I was and all the horrible pratfalls I've made in life... I realised I had inherent worth because I stood up and took action where few people would or could, and the times I did so really did mean something.

There isn't one defining quality of worthiness. Being human means being a part of this diversity of human experience, desire and ability. I believe that everybody has a part to play (even though most of the time in my posts I sound like a lunatic "ultra") in this world, and that every life is worth something.

I wouldn't go so far as to suggest what the world could be like if every person on earth truly believed in themselves and their manifest destiny. I would only suggest that perhaps an individual who gives him or herself a real chance in this regard would truly see his/her quality of life improving significantly.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 4:55 amWell, Ezra admitted himself that writing all of this is just a personal hobby for him. He probably intends to make money from this.

If I were to criticise or give feedback to somebody I would rather do so for a person that really gives a damn about who his writings are meant for.

Which is why I'm no longer saying a single significant thing in any of his posts or threads now.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Jul 26 2009, 04:55 AM

RE: Plagiarism
These ideas are my own. I have been blogging about similar themes for some time now.

RE: Meaning of the word "thriving"
I use the word as it is used in the English language. Please refer to any conventional dictionary.

Look, I dont mind whatever ad hominems you throw at me, but that claim (large bolded text^) is not true.

RE: Bolded text above^

I speak as a 23 year old whom, just like everyone else, is trying to make the most out of his life. I have personally experienced a very severe eating disorder (I was 45kg/174cm at one point) and I saw the game of love from an underdog's perspective in my late teens.

As I overcame my eating disorder, and put real emphasis into making myself a better man, by eating well, exercising, sleeping well, and mixing and mingling... I realized how women would interact with me differently.

I share what I know from experience. I speak with conviction that being successful/thriving in life will show not only in your physical body, but also your mind and emotional state as well. It's not about being outgoing or shy. It is about thriving, knowing that your life has purpose and drive. When you walk your own path, women will notice it. It's really hard to explain, but at the end of the day, it is what seems to really work. I dont believe in pickup lines or anything superficial/temporary. I believe in core values that are universally appreciated not just by women, but by people as a whole.

When you embrace the world and all it's realities. No escapism: When you dont hide behind fantasy (games/anime/manga) and become mature of mind. When you dont give yourself soothing lies that deviate you from the truth. When you expunge the childish fears that hold you back. You start to take control of your life...and when you do so, you will find the strength to make real changes in your life. You no longer see the world through rose tinted glasses. Your personality develops/changes/matures/improves (whatever word you want to use).

Women seem to have a sixth sense. They know if you are mature of mind the minute you open your mouth. The way you carry yourself also changes. I cannot explain it...but im sure other men have walked the same path.

Believe it or not, I do write with the intent of helping others. And I believe that self-actualization is the first step in self improvement.

Now look, different people will have different experiences...and im sure my experiences may not apply to you and probably some others. If you have experiences you would like to share... or lessons learnt from experiences... I look forward to hearing them, for diversity of ideas is always good.


RE: Ad hominems / personal attacks / flames
I would appreciate restraint in using personal attacks. I dont want this thread to become a flamewar. Do know that it reflects on the mentality of the person using them.

RE: My personal life
I have never disclosed my personal life on this forum as I post with my real name. Yes, I am really Ezra Limm. I do discuss my personal life online, but on a different forum, and with a pseudonym.

RE: WHy I write
This is a hobby. I write on my free time. I am quite busy in real life and sometimes it's just nice to forget about work and social commitments and give myself time to think and write. Why do people paint? Why do people write songs? Why do people go into photography? Why do writers write? lol... perhaps it's a calling.. but at the end of the day, i just like to write


Dickson Poon:

Yeah, I do hope to get this published one day. THe first version (v1: what girls really want in a man) and the second version (v2: the real game of love), were far far far too crude for publishing. This is my third attempt. I have removed as much of the negatives as posible. I try to avoid making people feel bad....though I think i have reached the limit of what is possible - for the message has to get through in the end. This is the third version of the article... it is no longer a wall of text, and is a lot more positive than v1 and v2.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 11:59 amThanks for the feedback!


I cant stand david de angelo. He blabbers waaaaaay to much and frankly, he's not a very good public speaker. He's just not very charismatic and doesnt hold people's attention well...and reads off a script most of the time.


I've only watched a few of his videos.


The one below provided the inspiration for this article:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--I4_huH9Rc


This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 12:00 PM

Right. I find him a better conveyor in his points compared to yours.

Dude. Watch his other videos.. The full ones. Im telling ya. His points could be summarized in like 2mins...for every half hour of blabbering.

but he still does a better job at communicating it than you are

Exactly my point. Yes I admit he is dull in his presentation most of the time, but he still manage to get the point across.

I have to add that david deangelo deals with different content from what I am doing.

Go watch his videos. Summarize his points. Im sure they are differernt from mine.

Look, david's videos are more acceptable as he never touches on sensitive issues. What he speaks is true... There are ways and mannerisms that women do find attractive. But I go one level deeper than that. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, there is only so much that "guts" and "mannerisms" and "posture" could do in increasing your chances with women. At the end of the day it still boils down to the ability to convey an image of success in life. David avoids this as his customers are all paying to see his shows...and he sure as hell doesnt want anyone to feel bad.

I focus on the individual. The core person.

David does eventually touch on similar themes as me.... but he sugar coats it in 1hr+ speeches.

Bottom line end of the day: women dont like losers.

The difference between me and david is that I focus on the characteristics of people who are thriving in life. Something that david wouldnt do directly in front of paying customers. He can talk till the cows come home about confidence, being well groomed, well mannered, having a good posture, and conveying self-worth.... It does not change the fact that underlying all those core elements is physical, mental and emotional wellbeing.


What david deangelo talks about is really easy to follow only IF you are already thriving physically, mentally and emotionally. A hapless loser will not be able to follow david's advice even though he feels good listening to it and reading about it.

David Deangelo avoids talking about those core issues to his paying customers as he KNOWS that many people will be hurt. So yeah. If you want to focus on talking about the superficial because it doesnt hurt your sensitive fragile egos, then go watch David Deangelo. like I said, this thread is not for everyone.

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 01:52 PM

Have you asked a woman's opinion about this?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jul 26 2009, 02:01 PM

I think there's a point you are missing. for starters, you are communicating with written words. So your words have to be presented in a way that people will want to read it, is quick to understand and is willing to accept.

The way you frame and present your points is very important as it relates to how people interpret it. I would know. I'm a journalism graduate.

Also, we do not have anything to gain by opposing your ideals or criticizing your work. When we say it's over simplified or too generalized, we mean it as a fact.

You've written "face the truth". Now it's time you face the truth. Your work is still flawed. Reality is harsh man.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 2:08 pm of course not. I've already stressed that in his other thread. Or maybe ezra is secretly a woman?

This post has been edited by Jamien: Jul 26 2009, 02:08 PM