u ask me...i ask who le???
all i know he's bz....

u bully me, i'll report to him later..

This post has been edited by vivienne85: Jul 26 2009, 04:24 PM

Lol, don't derail other ppl's topic now.

you derail 1st 1 le...

anyways...CONFIDENCE is the key to make girls want to know you(for any guys)

So lanci, you go and make a new thread lor, lol.

dun want to waste my time to create these kinds of threads(which i think they are aplenty in this forum)

whateverla.

He aint nitpicking, you just can't seem to stick to a single point. Every time people challenge something you write, you change things a bit, you've change to the point you're either contradicting yourself or it seems that you don't really have a point to make anymore.


A man's self worth is judged by none other than the man himself. This is what you keep failing to understand.

Ezra. Maybe...it's time to stop writing to us? Instead of saying IMHO, put your ideas to the test, and then explain your moments and experience acquired.

Men who are busy at DOING SOMETHING in real life WILL HAVE NO TIME WRITING in a forum.

Alright. Enough. Im not going to reply to this anymore.

Post some constructive feedback about the main article and I will reply. Do quote what you have a problem with.

WHERE THE HELL IN THE MAIN ARTICLE AM I CONTRADICTING MYSELF?

Why do you keep trying to discredit me?

Did i hit a nerve?

Dude, im not trying to insult anyone. Just posting what I see as truth.


From now on I will not argue on semantics. You can make all the claims you want. I dont give a shit anymore. It's pointless arguing over semantics.

The words mean what they mean in the english language. Check a dictionary if you dont understand.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 4:53 pmBelieve whatever you want if discrediting me makes you feel better about yourself.
It does not change the validity of anything I have said in the main article.

I cannot discuss any personal experiences here with my real name.

If you really really want to know, add me on facebook or something and I wouldnt mind having a chat sometime. My name is Ezra Limm on facebook.

This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 04:53 PM

But you see...ad hominem is the only way people will TRUST you.

What do you think this is? An intellectual debate? Where substance of intellects must be taken importantly irregardless of the person conveying it?

That's not how real life is man.

is this where i meet the girls ?

ya..and guys

Is constructive feedback only things that agree with you? A lot of people have been giving constructive feedback but you just get defensive. You want to see a blatant contradiction? Here it is


Then you go about telling people how they should be to thrive. Your message is inconsistent.

But you know what, lets put this aside, its pointless to argue on this since you're so damn defensive when the core of your argument is brought into question.

Lets just hear your opinion on this simple question:

Can a man's self-worth be judge by anyone else but himself?

ezralimm, have you tried sarging the floor? Any of the PUA techniques working for you on the Malaysian turf?

Some things I've tried and tested, it works well. Most of it I just discard. Two things have worked particularly well for me. I haven't been cold hearted enough to try the 'freeze-out' to help me f-close or k-close, but when they go 'this is so wrong', 'we shouldn't be doing this', blatantly AGREEING does help in shifting the blame from their end to your end. This does smooth things along, surprisingly effectively.

Also, the 9 hour rule (between attraction and seduction) does hold true. In numerous occasions and among peers.

So, what has worked for you? I'd like to know.

act cool and make yourself mysterious and eventually they will come and know you

show her your money

Drive a Porsche~~~

Nope. Please quote the constructive feedback you claim exists.

There isnt any. What appears to be constructive feedback, when you examine it, is just a plain simple personal attack / ad hominem / flame.

Claiming that something is wrong/illogical is fine. But then back it up. DOnt just say that my whole case is wrong (ie. "The article is flawed". "Your point of view is deluded".). Those arent constructive feedback. Quote me. Respond to each point that I raise. Give your reasonings as to why the point is wrong.

Claims that my thread are "belittling" or "hurtful" are valid claims. I do not deny that they may offend some people...but such claims do not affect the validity of my statements.


I am not going to answer your question. If you think it can be judged by others, then it can. If you think it cannot, then it cannot.

I mean exactly what I said.

Self-worth is synonymous with self esteem. It is immeasurable and subjective. You know how much self esteem you have. And when you have self esteem, others will notice it in your behaviour and personality..... So it's not like girls are going to say "oh his self worth is 10/10". No, it doesnt work that way. It is subjective... and having self worth affects your behaviour in ways that are positive.





The message is consistent.

IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, self worth / self esteem naturally builds up in people who are thriving - being physically, mentally and emotionally healthy.


In other words, self-worth/self-esteem is a natural consequence of having lots of friends, being reasonably fit, and being mentally well.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 7:27 pmJust so it's clear. I am not a PUA. I dont want to be a PUA. And I am morally opposed to the idea of being a PUA.
Women are human beings and do have feelings.

I dont believe in "closing" (in PUA terminology) with women. There is nothing to close. WHen a relationship starts, it starts. Sex is part and parcel of a normal loving relationship. It's not just about getting action from women.



This post has been edited by ezralimm: Jul 26 2009, 07:27 PM

More objectivity?

I dont see why you cant reveal your personal experience here.

No one is asking you to write out the names of the girls you go after,the pictures of them and their contact numbers.

Just another wall of text will do,as you love wall of texts.