nice one moo!

Hehe noobie opinion only la. (:

same ere laa... when ur on bodies wit CCD sensors like ours it is common for noise to occur at high ISOs...

everyone got own opinion in this matter wan laa... but generally, lower noise is always preferred la...

for me...if u wan me to choose between detail and noise, my answer is detail.

one thing i like about SONY is they try to maintain higher detail in the photo compare to other brand scarifies detail to have better noise performance.

for me noise can be reduce using software but u can never draw out the detail if it is not there.

my few cents here

This post has been edited by ahtsong: Aug 14 2009, 01:55 PM

Moo sounds profesional nowdays.. haha.. keep it up bro

lol still no one can answer my question yet..

Nice point too by ahstong. Most importantly get a camera that can "bond" with you and you're ready for anything. (: Thats what I felt for the a200 when I was comparing to Nokin D60 and Nonac 1000D. They're just toooooo , minute. LOL!

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Added on August 14, 2009, 1:59 pmNo la. Noobie professional wannabe. LOL!

This post has been edited by Kul | Mo0: Aug 14 2009, 01:59 PM

higher detail? as in sharpness? pls explain...

in photography, we normally relate the sharpness with highlighting the detail

but in actual fact sharpness is not only about detail, there is many factor involve in order for u to reach max sharpness. eg, handshake, lens, weather and so on.

u can read something here
http://www.dphotojournal.com/photography-t...imum-sharpness/

but for me detail is a very major key to obtain the sharpness in ur photo

This post has been edited by ahtsong: Aug 14 2009, 02:10 PM

thank you tai ko! shall read about it now...

don la call me tai ko...(i'm not being tai ko for many years - sound like gangster)

we always do sharing here ma...when have TT

thanks coz like budak tadika shoot....


BTW sifu and kawan2....

i want setup my studio shoot already...but i want to know which flash trigger i can use....here in sabah susah mau cari......

ebay is ur good fren

tak pernah beli ebay bro...budak tadika ja

Seriously this week want TT anot? Later? =p

hmm....basically...u dun have to worry about noise that much. instead, shooting at 1/4 or 1/15 hmm..i suggest u use a tripod...
ur a200 has SSS which allows u to shoot 2.5~3 stops slower, say if u are using ur kitlems at 18mm (27mm equiv)and shooting at 1/4,hmm... can la but prone to handshake.

what i am trying to say is that, pump up ur ISO and dun worry about it that much. If u are worry, shoot in RAW and remove the noise later.
Also, having noise is far better than having blurry images right?
A tip i learned is that try overexposing ur pic abit when shooting at high iso. IINM there are 2 noise, chromatic and grey/grains (i duno the name la) hehe.
i realized when increasing the exposure, it is less prone to get chromatic noise (the red color dots) because these are annoying.....

another alternative is, use ur flash to overcome ur handshake.....pump up iso to 800 and then meter ur background then shoot with flash....shud be fine i guess...

dun be afraid to use ur pop up flash. if u use it correctly (blending the atmosphere properly), ur pic wont look that bad one ...

This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Aug 14 2009, 02:52 PM

Big hand? u need A200 + Grip.. else u suffer..
or A700..

I have medium hand.. suffer with A200 if shooting for long time..

same here, i rather have details than a smudged pic...
that is why i rather shoot in RAW, turn off in-camera noise-reduction (NR) and remove the noise during PP..

some camera tends to remove too much noise while failing to 'keep' the detail....in the end, the pic looks really clean ..but without detail or sometime too SMOOTH that it looks fake.
you can simulate it by using ur PP software...

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Added on August 14, 2009, 2:51 pmfrankly, i find alpha ergonomics pretty good ...the A200 has a good feel too..buttons are easily access....the only problem is if u use your left eye to focus then ur nose might accidentally press the AF selection button ..

the newer a230, a330 is a bit too small for me

This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Aug 14 2009, 02:51 PM

why 16105 is because of the IQ and for it's build quality. even though 105 is still a lil bit short, but for me, IQ is more important...

yeap... picture format is usually what causes your mem card to be full. especially when using RAW. usually I'd backup and clear my memory card right after I go out for a shoot. even if it's just 30 pictures. better mah. or if you want easier solution, get a bigger capacity memory card or buy another or two memory card.

can also.. will info the wife lah.. meet up at GC or somewhere else??

As long as you have properly exposed an image, noise will be less apparent.

So you can shoot at ISO800 outdoors; it is not a problem even on the A200.