Again, nicely pointed out

its okies no worries, u should see me
i drink lotsa water even when i dun excercise

Asking a person not to drink while running a marathon distance, that's suicide. Imagine if a forumer is new to running here and take your advice for it, imagine what will happen.
There's already a casualty at this year's edition of the adidas King Of The Road for dehydration running a half marathon distance. Running deaths though do happen are very minimal and I hope that it will not happen in this forum.

Things are all made for a reason. Try out a longer distance and your body will be screaming for it.

I believe you are wearing cotton underwear. Micro-fibers underwear may be your answer. Renoma has it and it's easliy found in major departmental stores.

This post has been edited by phoenix: Oct 27 2009, 06:12 PM

i've not done any lsd more than 15km. this weekend plan to do 15km.
well....after a 10km run...i still feel ok(can still walk around). probably cos i've not tried going more than that.
15km? this weekend run edi then i'll know how i feel.

sigh. BECAUSE I'VE TRIED IT. I am a swimmer also btw for 10 years competing in state and nationals. What do you think?

wokay. really sorry for the misunderstanding
Now I learn a new definition haha.

hv you done at least 15km?
so ur max is a 10km?
i would ask for you to definitely try and run 15km..
if possible try and do even up to 17/18km ..you'll then knw what sorta distance you'll be running..

Might i ask what half marathon event are you training for?
If it's the Penang bridge.. i heard the half is 25km? unlike the usual 21km



This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Oct 27 2009, 06:18 PM

i m nt a swimmer, but even if u told me swimmers took power gels i wud be doubtful..
we are nw talking abt runners??!!
please do not use yourself as reference, where is some sort of reference?
every individual is different..
AND IF like u said power gels make little difference why does the WORLD use it?



This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Oct 27 2009, 06:19 PM

yeah...my max so far is ard 10km oni. i know i should have trained more.
and yeah...pbim 1/2 mara. i know i'm doomed.
so i guess i do not really need those exp gels eh?

haha for your training no.. but for the event, you might want to consume some
as far as your training goes, try and run further distances starting nw.. u hv like a month left ??

don't doubt it when you dunno. We take power gels for recovery actually. But to improve on performance power gel can't help much.
I used power gel once for short distance 6km run, turns out wasn't really that effective. that's why I said that.
And do chill. Yes it differs individually.
haha. You'll never know to understand power gel and power bar's usage, do use it often and be observant.

It doesn't matter now. Learn from your mistake. We are not here to bombard you, just helping others and yourself get certain facts right.

As for running and swimming, the calory consumption is a big difference. Yes, you might not need energy gels for swimming, but it's a must for running for most of the runners including elites and even the world marathon record holder.


d3vilzzzz: The half marathon distance for Penang Bridge International Marathon this year is 21KM. AIMS certified.

ahha...ok since training no need hor...then do u think during event day if i take some...will have any side effect? i takut lau sai and etc le....esp body not used to stuff like this. wats ur take on this?
yah...gonna run further and further. and yes...i only have 25 days more.

If i do not doubt when i do nt knw, hw will i find out?

Exactly you as a swimmer use it for recovery..
We as runners use it to give us "power" to complete the run/ event
No one said for gels to improve our performance
Again, you made a statement which could kill...

Please refrain yourself from making such outrageous statements when you have no proof/ reference what so ever to support the statements made..
Like yourself, there are many newbies here, if you do not knw.. ASK... we are more than willing to share ...giving the wrong advice can KILL

My view is during training no need is coz you should see how you feel during the run purely without help..
and besides running without gel allows for you to train better (the logic of, if u can do without gel imagine what you can do with gel)
but yes, if ur afraid of lau sai go ahead and try.. there is no harm..
you also hv to take into acc. what gel suits you best? there are diff gels out there so you oso hv to try try
Many suffer when they take the norm POWER GEL, but I hv no issues (touch wood ), many have also claim that POWER GEL is nt the best out there..
If you go through the previous pages or to ccube's blog and phoenix's blog.. you can find out more there

o, and besides power gels there is endurox!!

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Oct 27 2009, 06:36 PM

Go join swimming and compete
give you 'power' = to improve performance liao lor =.=lll
And this statement was made based on my experience.

D U R I A N ............

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Added on October 27, 2009, 6:51 pmtalking abt underwear.....then wear a micro fibre drifit quick dry under wear lor. sure no wet wet feeling one

the brand is RENOMA.....i hv been using it for donkey years liao

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Added on October 27, 2009, 7:13 pmI believe u r a good source for us in this forum as u mentioned u compete in state and national level swimming competition, and also a competitive short distance runner. V definitely hope to get some tips from you in terms of speed training and for those into Tris then the tips on how to improve in swimming will be of beneficial.

Again you must understand that long distance running can be a little different from those sports you are engaged in where energy are distributed across a span of long hours like from 1hr to almost 6hrs (if one is slow in running a 42k). Short distance running are more on burst of speed, and swimming will really depends if one is a sprinter or long distance one. Even if its long distance it wont be anything more than an hour. So the usage and distribution of energy is very different. Food and supplement for recovery may or may not differ. Anyway I am more than interested to hear from you and your point of view.

As someone said, this is not a forum to bash each but more to learn from each other strength and correct the mistake as it comes along. Hope to hear more contri from u.

cheers



This post has been edited by ccube: Oct 27 2009, 07:13 PM

Go run 20km and compete
Every individual is different and both your forte and experience is ..i m sure u knw different..
runners do nt equate to swimmers, swimmers do nt equate to runners.. plz dun tell me nw u did biathlon or triathlon..

You could say "power" = improve performance
but i wudn't, reason being you think of it as helping you to run faster or something.. i m looking it from a point of view where it is used just to help you complete the race, see the diff?

i do not think you will if you have yet to consume a gel just to complete a certain distance..

do share if you have ran 15km, 20km or even marathon (i meant 42km and not 5km)

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Oct 27 2009, 07:20 PM

Let me clear the air here a little.

I am very sure euphoria meant this:

Powergels/bars etc, in her experience, bring no benefit in her ex-competitive sports.
Eg: 5km runs and swimming

Just note this euphoria:
The guys here are talking about the benefits of powergels in LONG distance running.
Eg: >10km runs.

Please read before just posting. Not to flame but have noticed that you post things before you actually read and understand all the replies. For example in the bodybuilding forum. i was like ??? when u just out of the blue post something without reading the previous replies or understanding what the people actually meant.

Sidenote:

I still can't believe my time...
Put on my new saucony's today and ran a 20min 13sec 5km.
Previously my fastest time was 26min 20sec.
Still feels unreal and I totally get it if some people can't believe it . But this was after I push myself to run 10km (last week). Before this 7km was my limit.
- these dedicated running shoes are the lightest shoes i've ever had and it's 11.2oz. I can't imagine what the 7.8oz shoes feel like (like barefoot? ).
- and my knees don't hurt one bit, darn... good shoes really are important...

This post has been edited by strinq: Oct 27 2009, 07:36 PM

Aaaah, dun tell me she use to pump iron too
typical spammer syndrome? we get that alot around here
anyhoooo 

ur reaction was like mine when i gt me jazz12 frm ccube
barefeet is diff though, be prepared for lotsa blisters, some will be "bloodied"
i did it on the road though, it may nt be so bad on the track
ur knees may hurt considering you don't have your shoes cushioning but it is outright therapeutic

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Oct 27 2009, 08:05 PM

look like the shoes is doing wonder for u at the moment. the 7oz shoe ie Fastwitch3 is amazing. definitely beat the heck out of lotsa racers around town. you will fly with it and this is my competition shoe for short and marathon races.

haha, i think it was a combination of a few factors:

1. New shoes . My feet really felt way lighter...
2. Got use to running further
3. Was in almost prime condition today. Very well rested. Slept early last night and had enough sleep.
4. Had my meals at the right moment and some sweetish soy drink about a half hour to an hour before the run and correct hydration.

*I did not plan 3 and 4, just happened

Thanks for the great recommendation ccube!

But don't tempt me lah, i baru jer pakai this one for the first time... haha, this one cukup already. No shoes till this tears in two.

Another note: Saw a runner at the track today doing 400m and 800m sprints. All I can say is
Sprint, rest for a little while (slow walk), sprint again, rest a bit and repeat.
I think he did it like 10X straight. Madness... and when I mean sprint I really mean sprint.
He sprinted more than I ran...