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arremie
post Jul 1 2009, 05:23 PM

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Just saw this model at Best Denki Midvalley.....very nice PQ but I don't think I can live with the reflection. So disturbing rclxub.gif
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post Jul 1 2009, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 1 2009, 05:23 PM)
Just saw this model at Best Denki Midvalley.....very nice PQ but I don't think I can live with the reflection. So disturbing rclxub.gif
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So the reflection is very bad...i thought the S is better than the X?
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post Jul 1 2009, 09:25 PM

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the 42 inch S is less reflective than the X. Is the 50 inch same also?
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:00 PM

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What is the cheapest 50" LCD now? I think this new full hd plasma from pana is the cheapest 50" full hd tv available in the market.

My only concern is the screen reflection now. Maybe I just have to live with some reflection for this price.
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:24 AM

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This 50" will be excellent in a close room with no light source from side or opposite. Without the reflection, the PQ is simply stunning for the given price.
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 2 2009, 12:24 AM)
This 50" will be excellent in a close room with no light source from side or opposite. Without the reflection, the PQ is simply stunning for the given price.
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I do have 2 BIG windows on the side wall and down lights in my living room. I better go check out the real tv and judge for myself. It really sucks to see reflections on the TV.
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post Jul 2 2009, 07:28 AM

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most people don't have a dedicated TV room and usually put it in the hall. That is where all the windows and sliding doors are, thus, reflection.

It is a pity. Just like notebooks, everybody chased glossy screen to only finally realise that matte is more practicable. I had both and glossy was far worse.

Clear evidence of technology digressing backwards.
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post Jul 2 2009, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Jul 2 2009, 07:28 AM)
most people don't have a dedicated TV room and usually put it in the hall. That is where all the windows and sliding doors are, thus, reflection.

It is a pity. Just like notebooks, everybody chased glossy screen to only finally realise that matte is more practicable. I had both and glossy was far worse.

Clear evidence of technology digressing backwards.
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Absolutely agree with you on this on. As consumer, we just have to stop buying it then they will stop producing it.
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post Jul 2 2009, 11:31 AM

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My sumsung LCD also have this glossy reflection problem. It is good at night without the light on but during daytime watching it at the living room still can see the reflection... Since I have already bought it so have to leave with it... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jul 2 2009, 11:31 AM)
My sumsung LCD also have this glossy reflection problem.  It is good at night without the light on but during daytime watching it at the living room still can see the reflection... Since I have already bought it so have to leave with it... rclxub.gif
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Samsung LCD with glossy screen is absolutely ridiculous. Its another way manufacturer use to make their screen APPEAR nicer! Will never buy one of those.

I can understand when plasma have reflective screen because of the technology that requires real glass. But LCD can do away with reflection screens yet samsung choose to go that route. Silly!
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 1 2009, 05:23 PM)
Just saw this model at Best Denki Midvalley.....very nice PQ but I don't think I can live with the reflection. So disturbing rclxub.gif
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hi, do you remember the RRP listed for this model at Denki?
arremie
post Jul 2 2009, 01:44 PM

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Not sure bro. I think 5k+ if not mistaken. 5999 maybe.
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post Jul 2 2009, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Jul 2 2009, 01:44 PM)
Not sure bro. I think 5k+ if not mistaken. 5999 maybe.
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hrrmm...altho price reasonable for a 50in FHD plasma tv, but i'm hoping there'll be a combo deal like they offering for the 42in. then it'll be bloody worth it...htkaki shud b able to update us if combo deal is available..mean while, i'll wait till at least KLIAV...see what sort of offering can get there...
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the reflective screen is advisable for movie cos it improves contrast..as movie is suppose to be watch in a dim environment just like in the cinema..but as for computer monitor, the mirror reflective surface is the pain in the axx.

if i am not mistaken, Sony is the pioneer in adapting this reflective surface for its LCD ccomputer monitor..
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post Jul 3 2009, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(shuttersyok @ Jul 3 2009, 01:24 AM)
the reflective screen is advisable for movie cos it improves contrast..as movie is suppose to be watch in a dim environment just like in the cinema..but as for computer monitor, the mirror reflective surface is the pain in the axx.

if i am not mistaken, Sony is the pioneer in adapting this reflective surface for its LCD ccomputer monitor..
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But Tv manufacturer should know that 95% of the Tv are use in household that is bright.
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post Jul 3 2009, 11:36 AM

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How about compare this model with LG...saw them at denki mvalley...the price isn't much different...samsung also..
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post Jul 3 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(shuttersyok @ Jul 3 2009, 01:24 AM)
the reflective screen is advisable for movie cos it improves contrast..as movie is suppose to be watch in a dim environment just like in the cinema..but as for computer monitor, the mirror reflective surface is the pain in the axx.
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People aren't always watching movies. Got news, sports, documentary, sit coms, etc. The whole point with TV is to be able to watch in lighted environment and the reflective screen is too distracting for this. I say bring back anti-reflective screens!
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jul 3 2009, 12:01 PM)
People aren't always watching movies. Got news, sports, documentary, sit coms, etc. The whole point with TV is to be able to watch in lighted environment and the reflective screen is too distracting for this. I say bring back anti-reflective screens!
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bro..not only movies, video in general. As you have heard some review about the x10k color, they mentioned is natural while some forum members here mentioned the new s10k borders on a bit of oversaturation of the green. I believes it has something to do with the anti glare coatings on the glass. Anti reflective coating is expensive stuff, and look at the vast area of glass the need to coat!

thats is the reason why some plasma is Sooooo...expensive...KURO anyone?
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post Jul 3 2009, 02:53 PM

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Just got a quote from my friend for the Pana 50S10. Its only Rm5600 with a free camera.

I'm waiting for him to get back to me whether can get extended warranty for 5 years and & also whther can buy without the free camera. Anyone know which model camera they give?


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post Jul 3 2009, 03:09 PM

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Glossy screen has better contrast and color.
unless, ur room is ultra bright, or u purposely stare into the reflection, you won't notice it.

but for a PC monitor, matte is the way to go, because u need to read, not "watch".

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