yes htleg, i'm dying to knw the price oso...and whether any combo deal on the 50incher

dun think u'll hv much luck with the V series. its not gonna be available in M'sia. G & S series only for FHD plasma. not even a 50in G series.




specs came out in the panny US site is significantly different from those released in M'sia...i wonder why..



S series suppose to be NEO panel & infinite black oso...but here, tarrak...

This post has been edited by daryl.k: Jun 30 2009, 06:43 PM

hi, do you remember the RRP listed for this model at Denki?

hrrmm...altho price reasonable for a 50in FHD plasma tv, but i'm hoping there'll be a combo deal like they offering for the 42in. then it'll be bloody worth it...htkaki shud b able to update us if combo deal is available..mean while, i'll wait till at least KLIAV...see what sort of offering can get there...

dude..u din check out at the shop before order? hrrm i think next time when ask for quote, need to spell it out properly dy..S for Singapore & X for X-ray. otherwise, will always get problems like these..

dude...that is a sensitive thing to mention here now

can discuss price here?

what's the price for 50S10 now? the last best offer i got was RM5600 without any freebie or BD player...

today, my colleague told me about this shop in Puchong...giving RM5500, still can nego...looks like price getting cheaper already....

'pro' calibration meaning? get someone to calibrate it for you?

using those calibration disc can do? not sure if that's what anfieldude means.

after reading about de problem lightning69 is having..i begin looking at an old thread..ironically started by lightning69 himself..50S10 vs 50B650..those who provided inputs to tat thread did suggest tat B650 out performs the S10..with IR as its major setback..

Lightning69 himself now suggested tat perhaps he shud've gone de korean way so the conclusion?S10 vs B650 still hard to answer..build quality & reliability is also a big question mark with the B650..many ppl not 'trusting' de korean brand thos they hv come a long way..

normally to prevent burning & IR we burn i the tv right? With image burn in disc..i read tat with the B650 it wont settle even after 600hours of burning in..is tat true?if so what's de alternative? I watch lots of astro & most channels got permanent logo on corners..if i watch like full day surely will be a problem right..

just out of curiousity..what tv is anfieldude using?unless its Kuro 9G then mayb we can buy the exact same model he's got..then surely no problem

This post has been edited by daryl.k: Oct 29 2009, 12:07 AM

so who you got to help with the calibration? how much the service cost?


mr anfield, i will be buying by end nov...maybe i can let u calibrate my unit as white-rat??

if you dun mind answering, if its you, deciding between S10 & B650...which one would you go for? i know for someone who owns Kuro, its very difficult to digest lower end models...but...bare with it lerr k?

saw both S10 & B650 at HN Pyramid. they didnt placed them side-by-side tho..i had to run back & forth to compare them...

actually feel that B650 had the upper hand..color a lot more vibrant..but both had demo disc on (different disc) so very difficult to compare.

in terms of reflections, to me (dun fire me) i feel even Kuro 9G also gives reflections. but the area is brightly lid...so inevitably, reflections will be very visible...i just dun find reflection to be a major problem..esp since i'll be watching in rather dimmed or dark environment..

both can get same price from forumer here..exact same price that is without any freebies...so its back to the 1 basic question, Panny or Sammy.

on 1 hand, S10 is considered an entry level Plasma on panny's range. reliable brand, japanese but in terms of final PQ output, losses out to B650.

on another, B650, is considered a mid-level Plasma (above series 5), good PQ, but reliability is still a question, known IR problem, korean.

this is interesting....i think need owners of S10 to give input...or senior master anfieldude can give his highly reliable input...

wit re to the IR issue of the B650...can a long hour break in do the trick? like 2 weeks 24hours? and normally how long it takes before IR sets? say when watching Astro channel, Nat Geo or Discovery or football, usually there will be static icon displayed during the program, but fortunately (or not) there are breaks in between...for normal channels, there'll usually be comm break every 15-20mins....for football, each half is 45mins...

if IR is encountered, black bar, static icons, what can be done to reverse the effect?

in terms of warranty, does it cover a permanent burn-in? sammy warranty only 1 or 2 yrs is it? i see in HN, extended warranty quite expensive...RM1k++ for 3yrs extended warranty...

understand de frust..but this is malaysia & i'd just like to say..buying power in malaysia is not as strong as our friendly neighbour s'pore..not to mention our RM is small like bacteria..something tat's easily affordable in say US or UK or even s'pore became like super premium item when it reaches our shores..just like import of cars..

Our average salary mark simply dun allowed us to spend rm25k on a tv cos rm25k may last us an entire year..sum ppl dun even make tat much in one year..

Tat being said..i agree with de part wher its really up to us..cosumer to choose..sum may save their hard earn moolahs for 2yrs just to get de tv mounted nicely on their HT room..sum go as far as selling their daily vehicle..sum might wanna tow away atm machines at night but de point is..its up to us consumers..de choice shud be made available to us..

B&O showroom in bangsar village has got a 40inch lcd tg retailing at rm20 or rm30k...cant remember exact but it was a ridiculous figure to pay for a 40in lcd tv..yet..there might be buyers..expats for example..some who earns as much or even more than our PM..might buy them..not cos de tv is feature pack but becos its B&O

anyways..i dun think u shud be frustated cos panasonic malaysia can still indent for u if u really wanna buy the tv..only it'll take sum time..its not like its completely impossible to buy de tv here..worse case buy in s'pore..

but..i'm sure i'll have sumone who'll agree with me if i say i'll pick the KURO anytime over panny V or Z or whatever..NEO or not..KURO is still de TV to beat..its stil being used as benchmark & even the new V series were compared to Kuro..came close but not good enough in terms of its ultimate black panel...

many of Pioneer's Kuro engineer & staff left to join panny in their plasma development since panny didnt take up Pioneer's offer..so in future..maybe even panny's next premium/elite range will be kuro in disguise