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teikwing
post Jan 23 2011, 06:09 PM

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Guys, any recommendation for replacement of Falken ZIEX ZE912? i am pretty happy with its wet & dry performance but not the high thread wear rate & soft sidewall. sad.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:11 PM

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PS3... smile.gif
it is much better than 912... wear rate should be better than 912 also harder sidewall but not really as hard as RE001...
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 23 2011, 07:11 PM)
PS3... smile.gif
it is much better than 912... wear rate should be better than 912 also harder sidewall but not really as hard as RE001...
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PS3 for 195/55/R15 is around the range of RM250 right? Any idea which shop offers the best deal? Or any cheaper alternatives? Only have budget of +-RM200 per tire.
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post Jan 23 2011, 08:02 PM

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Anyone, hear of Thunderer Tires?

Its from Bridgestone factory, according to the shop owner this tires is much better then hankook v12 and federal 595.

I need more review about this tires.

Thank you
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post Jan 23 2011, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jan 23 2011, 07:43 PM)
PS3 for 195/55/R15 is around the range of RM250 right? Any idea which shop offers the best deal? Or any cheaper alternatives? Only have budget of +-RM200 per tire.
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yes... if not u can try Hankook V12 lo... cheap and nice to use...


QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jan 23 2011, 08:02 PM)
Anyone, hear of Thunderer Tires?

Its from Bridgestone factory, according to the shop owner this tires is much better then hankook v12 and federal 595.

I need more review about this tires.

Thank you
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haha really??? if it's sidewall is hard then handling sure good but lack of comfort.... so it still depends... remember some one did highlight this tire but forget who already...

*manage to find who... bro yngwie... can you comment on this tires??? how is the wet traction??? compare to your RE001???

comment is almost like extreme tires... not good for daily use coz it wet traction sux... thread life also very short... so only for track day use...

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post Jan 23 2011, 09:52 PM

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Are Bridgestone Potenza still durable and reliable?
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post Jan 23 2011, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 23 2011, 11:48 AM)
that is over priced... should be around RM160/pc now... ask around and see, remember to ask for package price...
that size go for Hankook V12 and 595 Evo cheap and good but a lil noisy... coz both directional tires...
then u can opts for N8000 or even F1 Asy... N6000 or N5000 is not as good as N8000, they say grip in wet no really good...

Pricelist for 215/45R17
1.Goodyear F1 Asy - RM??? Jan'11 price.. anyone??
2.Hankook V12 - RM330 Teoh Brothers Bayu Tinggi Klang (May 10)
3.Falken 912 - RM???
4.N8000 - RM???
5.Toyo CT01/C1S
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downgrade now rclxub.gif cry.gif cry.gif will choose among this list only alr... budget decrease to max rm350/donut only liao..... cry.gif cry.gif
pls help me to narrow down the choices.... if can, help me to rank them what is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice. as i can decide which to go for.... smile.gif
thanks ya notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Jan 23 2011, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 23 2011, 08:50 PM)
yes... if not u can try Hankook V12 lo... cheap and nice to use...
haha really??? if it's sidewall is hard then handling sure good but lack of comfort.... so it still depends...  remember some one did highlight this tire but forget who already...

*manage to find who... bro yngwie... can you comment on this tires??? how is the wet traction??? compare to your RE001???

comment is almost like extreme tires... not good for daily use coz it wet traction sux... thread life also very short... so only for track day use...

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Dear Michael,

Thanks alot for your feedback, i look at the thread design, look pro5, his comment both this model is not as good as it sound. He told me if i really want to go for Hankook and Federal. Go for the Top notch model which can easily additional few hundred RM on top of Hankook V12 & Federal 595.

Now i'm really with the decision making for tires brand rclxub.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 11:25 PM

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Anyone knows price for Potenza RE-01R. Or which shop have stock?
The size is 205/50/16. Thx alot.
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:38 AM

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Tyre price went up again aah? So long never change mine already...

Whats the latest price for 195/55/R15 F1-GSD3 and PS3? Thinking to downgrade to 185/55/R15 which is available with PS3. Lastime only change for RM200 per piece for F1... haiiihhhh
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post Jan 24 2011, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(e_k1117 @ Jan 23 2011, 09:55 PM)
downgrade now rclxub.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  will choose among this list only alr... budget decrease to max rm350/donut only liao.....  cry.gif  cry.gif
pls help me to narrow down the choices.... if can, help me to rank them what is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd choice. as i can decide which to go for.... smile.gif
thanks ya notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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well for me the list is
1.Goodyear F1 Asy
2.Hankook V12
3.Toyo CT01/C1S
4.N8000 (give it a try coz ppl say cheap and nice comparable with 912)
5.Falken 912

tire price has been hike up end of last year...

QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jan 23 2011, 11:20 PM)
Dear Michael,

Thanks alot for your feedback, i look at the thread design, look pro5, his comment both this model is not as good as it sound. He told me if i really want to go for Hankook and Federal. Go for the Top notch model which can easily additional few hundred RM on top of Hankook V12 & Federal 595.

Now i'm really with the decision making for tires brand rclxub.gif
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haha, bro depends what you want... and what is your size... the difference might be RM200/pc (16" & 17") or as low as RM50/pc (15")... for me 595 evo and V12 evo is good for daily use and V12 serve me well on 2 cars now, while another on PS3... V12 is cheap and much better than some others within the range, 595 is a lil pricey around PS3 range on 15" side...
who do you mean "he"??? the shop owner or bro yngwie???

well if you can afford of course PS3, RE001, GSD3 will be better in handling (for 15") or PS3, RE001, F1 Asy will be better for 17"... so hard to say...

look at what you want from the tires? what is your current suspension setup, u need more comfort or bumpy is fine??? comfort, handling or noise??? then it is for daily use or track use??? as per bro yngwie clearly stated, Thunderer Mach III is not for daily use..

QUOTE(andrekua @ Jan 24 2011, 12:38 AM)
Tyre price went up again aah? So long never change mine already...

Whats the latest price for 195/55/R15 F1-GSD3 and PS3? Thinking to downgrade to 185/55/R15 which is available with PS3. Lastime only change for RM200 per piece for F1... haiiihhhh
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price has been increase, i heard PS3 is as low as RM250 and as high as RM280 now... not sure about GSD3... RM200/pc when is it??? so low meh... i ask last year it was around RM230 already...

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post Jan 24 2011, 11:19 AM

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Hi Bro Mic,

He (The Tires shop owner) recommend me to go for Thunderer Mach III instead of average range of Federal 595 or Hankook, im on serious doubt about the usage and rate for Thunderer athough the offer price for Thunderer is quite attractive as compare to Hankook.

Here a list of price breakout i got from tires shop through out Klang only.

Thunderer Mach III - 205/45/17 -RM 275

Federal 595 - 205/45/17 - RM 280
Federal 595 - 215/45/17 - RM 280

Hankook v12 - 205/45/17 - RM 315
Hankook v12 - 215/45/17 - RM 330

Anyway i decided not to go for 17" anymore, i'll get a set of 16" rim instead (do not want to have rubbing issue, while cornering or going over bump).

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post Jan 24 2011, 12:34 PM

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if you maintain your overall diameter... you should not have any problem on those rubbing issue..

go for Federal 595 Evo... really if you don mind about the wet traction, then you can get Thunderer... bro yngwie already mention that it really sux on wet... compare to others like 595 Evo or V12 Evo is more suitable for daily driving...


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post Jan 24 2011, 01:51 PM

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i looking to change my tyre or rims....erm...now driving new honda city...the original tyre cant satisfy me ....185/55 R16...quite a "special" size...now wat size i still can look for beside 205 50 R16....

another question ...if i change back to 15 rim ...with 195/55 R15...wat is the pro n cons beside (handling; performance; fuel saving; nice or ugly).....
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195/55 R15 u can get nice tires with better comfort at cheaper price too...
205/50 R16 is wider in also make ur stance wider also...


195/55 R15
Pros :
More Comfort
Cheaper Tires (below RM300 u can get good performance tire)
better FC (compare to 205/45 R16 or 205/50 R15, of course might be a lil more compare to 185/55 R16)
better acceleration (compare to 205/45 R16 or 205/50 R15, of course might be a lil slower if u compare to 185/55 R16)

Cons :
Handling poorer (still depends what tire you are using)
the gap of the fender with ur wheels might look bigger (but in the fact it just maintaining)



205/45 R16 or 205/50 R16
Pros :
Better handling (still depends what tire you are using)
the gap looks smaller between ur wheels and the fender... (but in the fact it just maintaining)

Cons :
Expensive (above RM300 only can get good performance tires)
lack of comfort (as we all knows that Honda car's suspension is on the hard side)
increase of FC (compare to 195/55 R15 or ur original size)
slower acceleration also...

there is a few key points that will affect your handling and comfort too... it depends on the tire's sidewall properties...
regards on $$$ it depends on individual,
195/55 R15 u can get Hankook V12 Evo ~RM200, PS3 ~RM260, RE001 ~RM260, Federal 595 Evo ~RM260...
205/50 R16 u only get PS3 ~RM450, RE001 ~RM400, Federal 595 Evo ~RM340, Hankook V12 Evo (205/45 R16) ~RM300...

so it depend on individual... smile.gif what you want and willing to spend...

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 23 2011, 04:52 PM)
S Drive u need to bear with the noise intrusion after sometime... the noise is quite annoying sometimes... other than that it is quite ok for spirited driving...
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Thanks for the feedback, will keep track on the noise, but now i'm just enjoying the grip and silence...hehee...comparing to run flats, too noisy.. rclxub.gif
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enjoy thumbup.gif really grip is good...
but directional tires sometimes after wear 50% the noise is unbearable...
i pray hard my Hankook V12 will not be like that also after 50%...

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post Jan 24 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jan 24 2011, 12:34 PM)
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I did get feed back from the group of people who drove the same model as i am, under normal driving circumstances, you don't usually have to worry about the rubbing issue, however, my ride has already been lowered - (front at 1finger length) by upsizing to 17" the look will definitely look good and handling should slighly improve but ill face rubbing for sure.

If given a chance ill definitely want to have front 16", rear 17" but money is a concern. sweat.gif

Unlike angmo which normally has 3 sets of wheel for their car usage (Set 1. Daily usage,Set 2. Track purpose, Set 3. Tire for winter condition)

for the time being ill go for tires that is suitable for daily usage.

Federal 595 SS (non-evo) 205/45/16 @ RM 250/- biggrin.gif

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What abt 205/55/16 ? tire will look bigger and reduce the gapping .. can ah ?
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QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jan 24 2011, 04:41 PM)
I did get feed back from the group of people who drove the same model as i am, under normal driving circumstances, you don't usually have to worry about the rubbing issue, however, my ride has already been lowered - (front at 1finger length) by upsizing to 17" the look will definitely look good and handling should slighly improve but ill face rubbing for sure.

If given a chance ill definitely want to have front 16", rear 17" but money is a concern. sweat.gif

Unlike angmo which normally has 3 sets of wheel for their car usage (Set 1. Daily usage,Set 2. Track purpose, Set 3. Tire for winter condition)

for the time being ill go for tires that is suitable for daily usage.

Federal 595 SS (non-evo) 205/45/16 @ RM 250/-  biggrin.gif

Best Regards
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well your choice... wink.gif you lowered ur ride that is a limitation already so choose a size which will not hit ur fender...
that tire thread looks good but will be noisy... if you don mind u can try...

QUOTE(noprob @ Jan 24 2011, 04:59 PM)
What abt 205/55/16 ? tire will look bigger and reduce the gapping .. can ah ?
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205/55 R16 i think is a lil too big for you... the gap is there for safety... the tires will not hit your fender if your suspension is compressed maximum... stick to 15" if you want comfort and 16" if you want handling that is my advice...
BTW if your ride is city fitted with 185/55 R16 originally the 205/55 R16 will be over size for you... smile.gif

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