Particular on people like you i just want to remind is Glory hunter.. i dare to challenge all you MAN utd,Chelsea Arsenal and watever clubs which you have no connection in terms of place of birth nor go to stadium ( basically a fan who should have a voice is the one pay the ticket to support the club)

Yes glory hunter ..you!

Hi Aressandro..spot on !
however IMO these people who only follow foreign football have lost their soul about what you explain there.Unfortunately they can only celebrate at home or mamak if seeing their beloved team scores a goal.They will never be part of that community,they have no chance to spend on the team ticket to give support financially n vocally to watch and cheer for the team.They can only express it tru the lowyat football lounge..haha!

I think this discussion is getting boring, long winded and out of topic. First of all MU fans are of course glory hunters, secondly this stupid thread prolly been started by MU fans who wants to give himself a convenience or reasons to accuse all people who support foreign clubs are glory hunters. Thirdly, even if this Glory Hunter term has not been coined up, most ppl will still think that MU fans are the most annoying in this world. period.

So if you like to talk about football, should I tell you to voice your opinions at FAMs annual assembly?

Why I don't get is why you see the need to interject when you have nothing to contribute? If you don't think that it's relevant then post something that is FFS!

I like the fact that how I get the blame as the thread starter when it was the discussion and the blatant view of some narrow minded idiots who caused the discussion to descend to a level where it should be closed.

The thing is this, I started this thread not to bash anyone, but to discuss about it, I have many glory hunter friends and I also have real hardcore fans of clubs such as Aston Villa, Everton, and I even know a Southampton fan.

Some of you mentioned that us Liverpool fans started following the club in the glory days, thus making us glory hunters too. I agree 100% we are glory hunters in the beginning, but then again, as we found out more about the club, (ask Duke Red about it) we were intrigued by it, begin to love the club, the way we do things and understand what it meant to be called a "kopite".

Thing is, if we are glory hunters, we would've switched to becoming a Man Utd supporter, when they won their first title after 26 years in 1992, or Arsenal when they went through the season unbeaten or Chelsea when they were bulldozing everyone.

The argument about local team doesn't hold water too, unless you go to watch M League regularly, or the National team regularly, then you are a glory hunter too.

It's simple, there are reasons why one supports a particular team or club. But there are some who bothered to take the time ti find out more about the team and eager to know everything about the team, club and city. If you are comfortable in changing team every few years, then so be it, it's your choice, as long as you're comfortable with it. But to me, it is just like going all out chasing a girl, but only to ditch her after you've slept with her to go chasing another one.

I would like to see some good discussion, rather than finger pointing and stupid name calling or brainless debate about the most trivial of things, but then again, it's a forum, and you're entitled to your view, just like how I am entitled to think that you're a shameless glory hunter if you change team every few years.

For you to state above I suspect you  don't read or comprehend well especially regarding post #382.

Like Duke & other posters  say, it also encompassed the socio-economic &  cultural  impacts on us football fans.
Likewise ask yourself where would the British Football  Product  be without us glory hunters & our 'plastics' ? Yes thats what the local British lads labelled us (especially oversea MU fans). I
stand by my opinion & facts.

Regarding technological impacts you should read my post herein as a start. Theres a lot of gaps & intevening years which hopefully can be filled in. Keep continuing posting.

This thread will be a Classic. Yes we can start discussing the impacts (especially on you) which are obvious & not so obvious!

i need you to understand i dont reply to most your post bcos it is too long and im working.Evey one can see you are over long winded and i dont intend to do the same which doesnt mean i got no point to defence my view.

Supported Liverpool for over 30years doesnt make u part of the club still.
You are glory hunter 30years ago and congrats you are still loyal and din advance into glory hunter stage 2.That is wat credit left for you.

that line explain all you jokers reaction now 

no problemo u could have asked Corez to come as well

aressandro, do you watch international movies??

takper bro..

target aku bukan untuk tukar hati derang pon. Hati derang memang sah sah keras.. macam aku dah cakap tadi, bile kita dah buat bende tu terlampau lama.. memang susah nak ubah.

target aku sebernanye adalah2 untuk bagi silent2 reader lain kat sini untuk fikirkan bende tu. tu saje. Dan kalau aku nak timbulkan isu ni dengan berkesan, memang tak ada pilihan lain selain bertukar 'point' dengan view yang paling hard-core.... and i would like to thank them for a lot of fair views from their side.. have to give credit...

feels good to know ade effect dari usaha ni... but i not done yet..

aku ni main bola tak reti.. nak masuk football admistration, politik plak tak kuat... so kalau nak improve keadaan bola kita, sebagai fan, aku hanya boleh effect fellow fan melalui discussion je la....

sorry dah ada orang yg mengaku x support local football kat sini, dan aku pasti ada lg sebenarnya cme x mengaku je (maksud aku cakap kt mulut je tp no action). Dan aku cume terkilan bila argument dari aressandro dipermain2kan dan di putarbelit semata2 untuk dijadikan alasan (daripada bola sepak, masuk pulak international movie).
Yang pasti masih ramai lg letak bola sepak luar negara lg tinggi berbanding bola sepak tempatan. Contohnya, berapa banyak diskusi tentang perlawanan pembukaan Liga M Sabtu lepas berbanding liga2 eropah? Fans Indonesia walaupun bengap2 dan biadap tp aku admire jumlah kedatangan mereka di stadium tiap2 match.

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Added on January 31, 2011, 6:47 pm
aku ni pn slow2 follow Liga M start season ni, entahla boleh tahan smpai bila. Dulu haram, jgn harap la nk baca kat paper. Selasa ni ada match ke-2 betul x? Dan aku paham kadang2 politik dalaman buat orang menyampah dgn Bola sepak tempatan, tp bila dipikir2 balik bukan kt Malaysia je. Serie A dh berapa banyak skandal rasuah? Tp tetap ada fans. Maybe mutu Liga M ni rendah lagi, x menarik tu yang orang x minat.

fans indonesia actually the epitome of my points. setiap match team derang akan dianggap sebagai perang. baik atas padang. atau di atas stand...

Haha..Nice one Duke. Macam debat between BN and PKR.

bengap dan biadap tu cme hyperbola je dalam statement aku, bila pikir balik mmg x patut aku gne ayat tu. Tp damaged has been done, aku bkn orang yg akan edit previous post untuk selamatkan diri.
Berkenaan air_mood, aku terima view dia tp aku rasa dh off topic bila masuk bab international movie. X pastila sama ada view aku yg sempit tp aku x rasa tu alasan yg sesuai nk dikaitkan dgn bola sepak, terlalu general. dgn aku tgok aressandro sorang2 kne bedil dlm thread ni cm x adil pulak.
Glory Hunter ni pulak mungkin berbunyi agak offensive bg sesetengah orang, tp bg aku, aku terima je sebab aku sokong Arsenal pn ada sedikit sebanyak dgn kedudukan dia dalam liga awal 90-an dlu.

Thing is Duke, he is not championing local teams. That is arresandro.

This is someone who proudly declares a whole bunch of teams that he is supposedly a fan of. Why I find it weird why arresandro was championing this guy's cause Hence, in my view he's trying to do nothing but championing the glory hunter's cause. Sort of like, if I'm going down, you're going down with me. Thing is, he's way out of his head though, hence the whole bunch of bollocks he's spouting. I mean, levels of glory hunters?? Seriously?? What next,  glory hunter pinstripes??

Like you said, thick.

Man utd wouldnt be call the 'biggest club in the world' (judge on its fan base) if not of it's continous GLORY for the last 2 decade..

I hope this statement explains what is glory hunter as well.

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Added on February 1, 2011, 2:00 pm

United fans lol... you got no say in this topic to be honest.
Not qualify

wow....so fast come out with facts... just my observation when I was there...

to stick to a culture of supporting you own local club without question requires a lot of will power, passion, selflessness and sacrifices... a lot never got any on-field-success as a reward at all for their effort...

so when they do reach the period where they get the success and the glory... they will embrace it more personally...

so when a group of people conveniently exist when the club wins stuff or have a good player who can cross the ball better than most, and goes with the image of "Hi mate. You see my team back home sucks because of this XXX reasons so i dun want anything to do with those losers. I see your team are quite glamorous and i conveniently want to be loyal to your club instead even-though its not really my club. And there is nothing you can do about it..."  ... it will also irks me too... but i will also say nothing about it because i am polite and quite frankly, there is nothing you can do about it....

the 'bad apples' are probably the less polite ones...

A point to note is that English fans are wary of foreign ones, hence the anti - OOT sentiment. I've noticed from forums however that they are becoming a little more accepting especially if you know your stuff. I met a Red from Norway once called Jan. He spoke to me on a forum and told me he was going to visit KL and asked if I knew a good place to watch the game. I offered to pick him and his mates up from his hotel and I took them out to watch games. We've been corresponding since. He travels to watch the occassional game and was in Istanbul. You'll find that many fans who aren't from England are that serious. What about the Greek confident that travelled to Anfield for the Hillsborough service.

Would anyone here not want to watch every game live if he could? I think sweeping aside the economic consideration for this is foolish. How many RM 6,000 trips can one make in a year? It is definitey a valid reason not to go but it doesn't mean that one doesn't want to go. Armchair fans are those in the area but choose to watch from home instead.

Anyway when I was at the Albert a few pints with the locals, they were initially skeptical when I told them I was a fan from Malaysia. After 30 mins of conversation however they found I could hold my own in a conversation with them and warmed to me. If a local can accept me as a fan, who is anyone here to judge?