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pyroboy1911
post Jan 31 2011, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jan 31 2011, 02:49 PM)
that line explain all you jokers reaction now  tongue.gif
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apa ni?

u give a definition and i tried to apply it to my life. I discovered i am a glory hunter after all. Now you call me a joker? i am confused rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


Added on January 31, 2011, 2:58 pm
QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 31 2011, 02:57 PM)
anyway, what club do u support?
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post Jan 31 2011, 03:01 PM

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I think it's kinda cute that he's trying to justify himself, being the free-changing, multiple club supporting supposed fan he is. Don't you think so??

BTW, sorry couldn't join the meetup on Saturday, pyro. Would've liked to. Pongkes invited me actually. But was busy jamming it up and making noise in corez's house. keh keh keh...
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post Jan 31 2011, 03:05 PM

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no problemo biggrin.gif u could have asked Corez to come as well tongue.gif


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post Jan 31 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Jan 31 2011, 03:05 PM)
no problemo biggrin.gif u could have asked Corez to come as well tongue.gif
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Both of them are anti social. laugh.gif
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Jan 31 2011, 02:22 PM)
how do I loose myself from the "glory hunter" nametag if I am supporting a team full of glory right now, Yukieliow. I'm very interested in listening to determine how u nametag a gloryhunter
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its not easy .... once you you attach yourself to somebody else's club, no matter how much you collect knowledge about them, it is still somebody else's club... the only way to loose it is
to detach yourself totally from the club.... but the longer period you glory-hunt, the harder it is to detach from it. The superior feeling of being favorite to win matches week in week out is addictive, even-though in reality, the success is actually adopted and not really yours.. i understand if you say detaching from the club is similar to cutting your wrist... this probably what drug-addict or smokers felt when the tried to stop hanging to drugs and cigarette... but if you succeed.. its the best... a big IF to ask though... sad.gif

or

you can loose the guilt or balance it by being more active supporting your local side. not just going to the stadium.. do pro-active supporting activities and exchange ideas with supporters group...

or

just continue whatever you are doing and just accept that you are glory-hunting and there is nothing you can or want to do about it.


i suggest the latter. Your life are much easier that way wink.gif

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air_mood
post Jan 31 2011, 04:04 PM

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aressandro, do you watch international movies??
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 04:04 PM)
aressandro, do you watch international movies??
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Better yet, do you wear/own our National team's jersey? The original one?
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:21 PM

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There is no guilt at all on what i am doing, simply because i dont consider what myself is doing is wrong. And i support Malaysia football as well because i chose to do so for it is also the right thing to do. Not because i'm "cleaning" myself.

I guess at this point we can agree to disagree then, coz we all have different opinion on what a glory hunter is, or to be more accurate, what is "right" or "wrong" as a football supporter. But if really you do not condone foreign entity simply because it is not our own, then be true to yourself. Stop watching Hollywood movies. Stop listening to foreign music, like Linkin Park or Justin Bieber, depending on your taste. Stop eating pizzas or burgers. When buying stuff in market, if you see the word "MADE IN CHINA" put it back onto the shelves.

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post Jan 31 2011, 04:30 PM

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Justin Bieber.....pfffftttt....

People should stop listening to Justin Bieber irregardless.

Of all the example you could give, you give Justin Bieber??

Keh...keh....keh....
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 04:30 PM)
Justin Bieber.....pfffftttt....

People should stop listening to Justin Bieber irregardless.

Of all the example you could give, you give Justin Bieber??

Keh...keh....keh....
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i think i covered the whole range of personality, from the masculine to the not-so-masculine tongue.gif
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 03:01 PM)
I think it's kinda cute that he's trying to justify himself, being the free-changing, multiple club supporting supposed fan he is. Don't you think so??

BTW, sorry couldn't join the meetup on Saturday, pyro. Would've liked to. Pongkes invited me actually. [b]But was busy jamming it up and making noise in corez's house.[\b] keh keh keh...
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post Jan 31 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 04:04 PM)
aressandro, do you watch international movies??
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yes

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 31 2011, 04:07 PM)
Better yet, do you wear/own our National team's jersey? The original one?
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and yes...

both of those i only treat as product. So i dont care where its came from as long as its good. I also watch foreign football because its a good fun thing to watch.

but mechanism of football supporting for me is more than just a product. Its a connection between the identity of the clubs and the identity of its supporter...

if you only treat football as a product, then you are not a supporter.. but only a customer... if you treat it that way, than its correct that it customer and product dont have any boundaries...

an european car enthusiast, Alda Romeo for example, wouldnt care a rat ass if they move their manufacturing plant from Turin to Bangkok as long as the product remains the same..

But, with the advancement of border-chrushing-technology, try remove Manchester United from Manchester and relocate it to Bukit Jalil where they will have more fans... it wouldnt be the same anymore doest it..

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post Jan 31 2011, 04:52 PM

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Congrats. You are supporting an international product instead of a local one. Helping them earn your money.

How is that any different from you condemning us supporting a non-local football team??

You watch an international movie because you simply know it's quality is better than the local one. Doesn't mean you won't enjoy a local movie, just that it's probably not just as good.

Simple reasoning really.
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 04:52 PM)
Congrats. You are supporting an international product instead of a local one. Helping them earn your money.

How is that any different from you condemning us supporting a non-local football team??

You watch an international movie because you simply know it's quality is better than the local one. Doesn't mean you won't enjoy a local movie, just that it's probably not just as good.

Simple reasoning really.
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explained above... supporting a football club and brand-loyalty to an international product is different... i like Inglorious ******* doesnt me i can accept Tarrantino's success as my own... Paramount or Lion's Gate Pictures does not represent me like Terengganu or Malaysia do...
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 31 2011, 05:00 PM)
explained above... supporting a football club and brand-loyalty to an international product is different... i like Inglorious ******* doesnt me i can accept Tarrantino's success as my own... Paramount or Lion's Gate Pictures does not represent me like Terengganu or Malaysia do...
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Right, right. So the reasoning is, it's okay to show loyalty to an international brand, give them your money, help them fund whatever current or future projects despite there being local products you can buy and local movies around which you can go and see in order to support local.

But it is not alright to support a non local Football Club as there are local equivalent which operates in the same industry??

Well, I'm sold!!!

Talk about twisting situations to suit an argument ehh...
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post Jan 31 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 05:13 PM)
Right, right. So the reasoning is, it's okay to show loyalty to an international brand, give them your money, help them fund whatever current or future projects despite there being local products you can buy and local movies around which you can go and see in order to support local.

But it is not alright to support a non local Football Club as there are local equivalent which operates in the same industry??

Well, I'm sold!!!

Talk about twisting situations to suit an argument ehh...
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actually you are desperate to twist things... i have made it perfectly clear that football clubs are not just like any other product... its the way different industry works...

movies never base their market on the identity of their viewers... football clubs do.. thats why they have location-identity on their business registration... movies pulling power are the story line where football clubs's are the affection with their base supporter..

football suporting reach deeper to the core of who you are .. movies just a simple entertainment.. you never heard of that intense derby rivalry between fans of Monster's Inc and Toy Story now do
you..

movies does not need viewers's loyalty to work... football industry does...

and i do make equal judgment between local and foreign movies when choosing a movie to watch...

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jan 31 2011, 11:23 AM)
Talk so much is still GLORY HUNTER lol!

let me give u a simple reason why i call you as one.

there are 20 teams in EPL dont you see 90% of us abroad fans only fancy about 4 teams..precisely Man u,Arsenal,Liverpool n Chelsea.The balance 10% made up by other teams due to some other factors.

So can i ask why there are no regular supporter on the other 16 teams that compete on premier league each season?
Then who suppose to support these teams? Why still have thousand of stupid fans still seen on stadium support these teams like fulham or wolves who you rarely seen a die hard malaysian fans supprt them?

The asnwer is bcos they are local! No matter how louzy their team they support the local team.I think they can still fancy some of the big teams across europe why not..as a football fan.But local must be prioritize still.
But today i branded you as Glory hunter bcos you put those club that not belongs to you as your priority.
Dont have to worry ..you are not alone...its already a culture where most of the people follows EPL than local football.
But all i can say is Glory hunter still.

Oh yeah and i just want to tell you this season i think im going to support Udinese due the exciting football they are playing currently.Im a glory hunter i wont deny.What is the shame..why do you need to write 5 page of nonsense just to worry you are being brand as glory hunter?LOL!
You are no matter what if you support any football team which its not your origin...a glory hunter indeed.


Added on January 31, 2011, 11:35 amJust to add one more thing.
Your argument will never be valid unless there is a fair share of all 20teams that we Malaysian support.Then you can say you love a team for their culture their place and so on.
The actual fact is there are only 4 GLORY TEAM all you glory hunter is looking upon to...
In our eyes you might not be one bcos most of us are in the same category..but in their eyes you are one..at least in the eyes of the other 16 PL teams and the rest of the England other divisions teams...You are plastics! Glory hunter!
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Seriously I could give a rats ass what you want to brand me because your utter disregard for comprehending posts makes you as brilliant as a door knob. If you want to label yourself as a glory hunter or imbecile that's your choice. It's just annoying that people throw loose terms around without knowing what they mean.

The questions you've posed have already been answered, you're just too stupid to notice, hence why you see 5 pages of nonesense.

If you want to keep behaving like a petulant child, go ahead. If you feel you can hold your own in a discussion, do it face to face.
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QUOTE(air_mood @ Jan 31 2011, 05:13 PM)
Right, right. So the reasoning is, it's okay to show loyalty to an international brand, give them your money, help them fund whatever current or future projects despite there being local products you can buy and local movies around which you can go and see in order to support local.

But it is not alright to support a non local Football Club as there are local equivalent which operates in the same industry??

Well, I'm sold!!!

Talk about twisting situations to suit an argument ehh...
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Dah la woi layan budak tu.

Kekawan tengah tunggu kat KLCC nih. Ais kerim dah nak cair.
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post Jan 31 2011, 05:55 PM

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tah pape, dari bola sepak masuk movie pulak. Macam2 alasan di cari sebab x nak support bola sepak tempatan. Macam tu kau makan je la nasi lemak kt tepi jalan, jangan sekali2 makan kt McD, KFC, Starbuck dan franchise2 yg ada kaitan dgn luar negara.

ps: dh la aressandro stop je, hati mereka dh gelap nak sokong bola sepak tempatan, hendak seribu daya tak hendak seribu dalih. Tp sekurang2nya post2 bro dh bukak mata & hati sesetengah peminat2 tegar bola sepak luar negara cm aku ni. Dan aku sure ramai lg sebnarnya.

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Jan 31 2011, 06:03 PM)
Speechless right? so Easy!
As long you are supporting the so called big 4 you are PLASTICS!(if you are not born in North London,merseyside,manchester and south london.

To answer you guys the only team im proud supporting is KLFA my state team and even i quite long havent gone to the stadium - thats the originality i believe what belongs to me.

Same like you guys i follow EPL too ..we are not condemning it at all! No need to question do we watch foreign movies! i watch EPL or Serie A more than local football due to its quality yes!

But the debate now its about your belonging to where.. Your originality.To me these teams you think you are so attach with is never going to belongs to you.
And im pointing out you guys are plastics bcos while you treat those are your team but in the eyes of the whole world you are nothing but plastics glory hunters!!!

Support just 1 team?loyal to one team? live and die one team?..but is not your team!!!  .. lmao! PLASTICS!
Dont be such a disgrace by proclaiming so and then being insult by the English if you are there!
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Speechless? Hardly. I've just realized that there isn't much point in presenting arguments anymore because you choose to ignore then and instead continue to hurl childish insults. Put together a well constructed counter argument to any point I've raised and prove me wrong. If you want to keep throwing insults let's not do it on the net. I'll let you so it to my face

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