Keh keh keh...malu la I

How about a picture of the ticket with "stick it up your bumhole, hidzwan" written on a paper in the background instead? (which can only be sorted out Monday as I have the ticket still stuck to the notice board of my office cubicle). Keh keh keh....

Now now boys. Be good.

as long as you support the team that represent your indentity.. you are not a glory-hunter to me... i dont care if you have side dishes...

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Added on January 29, 2011, 5:01 pmwe dont have to be too rigid and technical about attending-the-match-week-in-week out thing... whats more important is the spirit and will to attend is there.

I myself confess i only watch Terengganu matches in Klang Valley only. i regret that i cannot watch home matches more often. But i had to accept that the way it has to be... and i dont feel i am less of a fan than Terengganu fans who watch all the home matches because they can..

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Added on January 29, 2011, 5:52 pmgood post here pyro and i understand your sentiment.

i would only like to point out that the act of "glory-hunting" has been hampering development of football not only in Malaysia but also in Asia in general in 2 ways.

1. In Europe, they manage to create a culture where people must support your local team. this will give all football clubs automatic fan base to remain competitive and relevant all the way to the lower-leagues. That's why after hundred of years of continues support at every level, they can come out with a quality football and league.. but in Asia, there is no such unwritten rule, so Asian are let to be allowed to think that they can 'choose' whichever clubs to support that good for their benefits without consideration of the club's struggle. They are content to be 'fan-of-the-struggle' instead being 'what-the-struggle-is-for'. So smaller clubs or teams in Asia has to compete on the same plane with the likes of Manchester United for fan which will always be a losing battle.

to progress, we must create a culture of "people must support the club that represents them " on our own.


2. Even fans of local club also give conditional support to their team depending on on-pitch performance which is also another type of glory-hunting in itself.. Where they only flock the stadium if the team are at the top level of the league or at semi-final or final stage of cup competition. In Malaysia, teams below 3rd on the table will play below 5000 attendance week in week out. Losing 3 matches straight, even the the team first on the table also will have attendance problem. This type of glory-hunting also hurt development of small team in the whole of Asia..

and if both of this attitude are emulated by football fans in England, EPL also will collapse as all people have no reason to support any team out of the big 4. and when the small 16 dies, the big 4 will also dies..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 31 2011, 09:35 AM

I think your frustration comes from many who supports overseas clubs but fail to support local football, or at least the national team. This, I agree with you. Countless of times I heard people say "why would I support Malaysia? Watch MU better" which definitely is a sting to local football.

But as much as there are many of these fans, there are also many who loves local football as much as they enjoy European football. In fact some of the strongest supporter of the national team that i know around in this forum, are strong supporters of their respective English clubs as well. After all these years of supporting MU, I learnt that supporting a club doesn't mean only watch them win but to know more about the team and all of those stuff, and I realize I should do the same to national football as well. So in a way supporting overseas clubs helped me learn my "responsibility" to support my own country as a Malaysian.

Speaking of attending matches day in and out to be a true supporter mentioned by other poster earlier. I am not at SNBJ when Malaysia play Vietnam and Indonesia last month. Some people know la the reason, suffice to say all I can do is to watch live stream. Does that mean I am less of a fan compared to those who done jerseys and go to stadium in throngs and chant and shout to support the team? Coz I am "unwilling" to travel to stadium?

So there are more to the definition of "glory hunting" than generalization such as "doesn't attend matches at all" or "supporting a successful club with no affiliation" etc.

But I also agree with you, if all of us can show the commitment of those Europeans to have season passes to watch their team play every time, only to our local clubs, it would greatly benefit the local scene. I am no such fans yet (I doubt i will go Old Trafford every week if I stay in Manchester anyway) but hey, supporting something will always be a lifelong learning experience. Who knows what kinda fan I might be in 10 years time.

I'm off the opinion that if you support a team, you support what it represents. I believe that most start out supporting their local team by default, since they can identify with their respective home towns. I myself used to follow Selangor religiously before the league turned pro. It was a combination of two factors, perceived or not that I stopped following local football. First, I discovered Liverpool and over years, I grew more and more in what the club stood for, something I won't elaborate on. Sure they welcome fans because they need our cash injection and they capitalise whenever they can but so does any other club or stadium tickets would be given out for free. As my interest for Liverpool grew, my interest for Selangor declined. This brings me to my second point. I no longer liked what Malaysian football as a whole stood for. Greedy politicians looking to fill their coffers, taking for granted that fans would always flock to stadiums despite a failure to inject cash back into the game for developments sake, preferring instead to use clubs as a channel of revenue for the state and themselves. This coupled by the fact that these very same politicians represent a party whose policies I do not agree with made me give up on local football. You can say that I should support my local side regardless, but I find it hard to force myself to support something I don't believe in. Am I wrong? I'll let you be the judge. All I ask is that people try to understand before being so judgemental.

This doesn't however affect how I feel about our badminton team. I was at Stadium Negara when we last won the Thomas Cup back in 1992. The team back then represented a united Malaysia. I still have in my mind vivid scenes of Siti Hasmah standing on her feet next to Roland Choi. She never took a break, she was and still is badminton's no.1 fan. As Punch Gunalan led the squad out, a chorus of "Inilah barisan kita" broke out and we drowned out the hundreds of Indonesia fans. The team comprised of Rashid Sidek, Foo Kok Keong, Pang Chen, Razif & Jailani Sidek, Soo Beng Kiang & Cheah Soon Kit. Soo Beng Kiang's winning smash brought a nation of different races together as Malaysians who were strangers hugged on another. Some claim that the Chinese abandoned football because there isn't enough money involved. Well, how much does a badminton player earn? Insiders tell me that a top player like Lee Chong Wei earns a meager allowance of RM 2,000 - RM 3,000 from BAM. His cash winnings are also split with the BAM so one can imagine how little backup shuttlers like Darren Liew earn. So now, is it really about the money or something else? Maybe there are people out there who feel the same way I do.

I like the Malaysia I see in badminton more than the Malaysia I see in football. I don't ask for anyone to agree with my point of view, I merely ask that you respect it because of the reasons I gave. I cannot support obvious bias. I cannot support racist policies i.e. the NEP. Does this make me a bad Malaysian? To want that all Malaysian be treated as Malaysians, or does it make me a better Malaysian if I just suck it all up and support it despite the injustice I see?

Moving forward, I mentioned before that privatisation of the league will be underway. Kelantan have just signed a sponsorship deal with Happy, a product from DiGi Telecommunications. As the back of their kits, you'll notice two more sponsors, both companies belonging to Tan Sri Annuar Musa. No more blanket sponsors although Maxis have bought their way into sponsoring the MSL. When more and more teams become privately owned, you'll see more and more sponsors come in especially since the MSL has signed a deal with ASTRO no doubt part of their rebranding exercise. If you look at the MSL committee, it comprises of young individuals with a vision, led by Tan Sri Annuar Musa (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2010/8/24/sports/6906345&sec=sports) What you won't see on the list of committee members there is that the CEO is a friend of mine and he's only in his early 30's. This is positive as Tan Sri has already begun to realise his vision through Kelantan, being the Chairman of KAFA. If they had a commercial team, they would have assigned sponsorship values to everything in the manner more developed footballing nations have. You'd have to pay to have your name on the dugout, the scoreboard, a-boards, etc. When this happens, football teams will be removed from the jurisdictions of the states. I'm not saying this will make it any less political because only the rich can afford teams and many politicians are rich. You'd also likely see your AKs and TFs of Malaysia come into the picture. KJ already did with MyTeam. When the rebranding is complete, and funds are made available to improve individual teams, the standard of football will go up against and just maybe, clubs will have their own identities and not be a reflection of our politics. Now I may not know a lot of about local football, but I am definitely not completely ignorant as was suggested earlier.

This is a summary of how I feel about supporting my local side once again. If you cannot identify with anything I've said, fairplay. The point I wanted to make is that I simply cannot put this all aside and support my local side blindly anymore. Some can, well I can't. I don't ask for your consent. I ask for you understanding.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jan 30 2011, 10:43 AM

probaply what i would say also if i has an in-your-face kinda style of writing..

So did you run a consensus on every single football fan in the country?? Or are you picking figures out of your ass again to suit your agendas?? Just like picking facts out of your ass pointing out posters never been to stadium before ehh??

Let's get things straight here. You're a multiple club supporting prick, who also at the same time shifts team at will and when you please. Don't try to put people who supports and backs the club that they choose wholeheartedly in the same category as you. Irregardless of which you club you supposedly support, if you apply the same method of so called supporting i.e. shifting teams at will, you will always be in the lowest of the lowest in the supporters food chain, be it here, in the EPL or in Timbaktu. A lowlife supporter if you will.

Capiche??

There, in your face enough for you??

Keh keh keh. The cheek of labelling someone's post as low class when we have bullcrap posts about "levels of glory hunting".

FFS.

mm this thread have reached new heights of page 24.lets see if reaches its next landmark.carry on carry on

glory hunter = some1 who support whichever club tat is winning and swap club when that club is losing for another winning club

how do I loose myself from the "glory hunter" nametag if I am supporting a team full of glory right now, Yukieliow. I'm very interested in listening to determine how u nametag a gloryhunter

if u are meaning the posts above in this page, i cant find it. I want to know how to loose myself of the glory hunter nametag , not how to be labelled as nametag.


I dont have "use-to-support" team


gosh, i find Manchester United's history very very interesting. So what do I do? Find ways to insult the history so that I am not amused by it anymore?


how do we not develop a love towards certain players especially when he is a top level player? I mean, look at Christiano Ronaldo for instance, how do u not develop a love towards him? Even though he left, i still admire him, but i dont support Real Madrid instead.
i see Manchester united potentially winning every season. So what do i do then?

i choose to eat nasi kandar because i believe of all nasis (nasi lemak, nasi goreng, nasi briyani) nasi kandar is the best to eat. Opps, im a glory hunter.

I like The Simpsons over other cartoons because they are the most successful franchise and are nice to watch too. Oh, another glory hunter point to me

I think Najib will still be PM next year. Aduiiiiii....such a glory hunter i am.

OHMYGAWD, im such a lowlife

This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Jan 31 2011, 02:29 PM

i Lol'ed my guts out. Literally

Season 16 onwards were pretty bad though.

Season 3-10 was the best.

"I'd rather be at a club with a great history. It may weigh heavy upon us but I'd rather have that than be at a club with no history at all."

-Sir Alex Ferguson-

btw, is sir alex glory hunter? XD

quite true. Now i am enjoying Family Guy and to some extend, The Cleveland Show. must be jumping ship. but oh well, as a glory hunter thats what i must do~


Yes he is. So is Barrack Obama, coz he wants glory for USA.

Boo!! South park is clearly the way forward.

We are definitely not. I can see you're in the same bracket as that dude that supported Chelsea and Munchen. Most of us here are 1-club man. I can see you're trying so hard to put things into perspective. You are, well in my guess, somehow feel offended when we were questioning the guy's loyalty.

And the name calling. Jokers, this and that. You are one good troll, I must say.

anyway, what club do u support?