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cwhong
post Aug 9 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(sue.chan @ Aug 9 2011, 11:06 AM)
ppl who have had bad experience will definitely tread more carefully. no one needs to feel stressed or offended at all. after all, forums are created to share knowledge and experience.

for lowlowc, I wouldn't consider your KC at all. There are many KC makers out there who's willing to take measurement and give u a quotation without obligation.

I was at the M'sian Furniture and Furnishing Exhibition at KLCC over the weekend and came across one KC who requires 50% upon confirmation and the other 50% BEFORE installation. He kept telling me his price is very low as he's giving FREE granite top !! Then I asked if I have paid the full amt even b4 installation, what will happen if something is not right during/after installation ? His face immediately turned sour, never replied me and I just said thank you and walked off.

He was so friendly initially and this is what I meant in my earlier post. funny how some ppl are...maybe i looked like a dumbo who'll agree to terms like that without questions. hahaha....
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urs is exception case, for the EXIBITION sales what they need is SALES yeah i means a lots of sales in that few days time. u can imagine how many ppl will visit their booth in that 3-4days? can be 500 ppl or more (never do statistics on this) how can they let u put ur contact number in the database and call to visit one by one???? so what is the estimated costs for setting up a booth at the EXPO? only the venue itself for 2 booth (location depended) can go to around 20K without the cabinets and the labours and transportation was not even calculated, so how can they afford without asking u to place RM 500 for the deposits/lock-in price? To be fair to the exibitors too, RM 500 is reasonable lahhh.......
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post Aug 9 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sue.chan @ Aug 9 2011, 04:02 PM)
good guess...u've done your homework too. in fact, that fella kept pestering me to pay a deposit b4 i had a chance to ask abt pymt terms. i asked how much. he said any amt. I went like "what ???". what do u mean by "any" amt ? Can i pay RM10 then ? To which he then said RM500 or RM300, up to u la. funny right how some companies train their sales ppl ?

lowlowc, i always thought measurement is free. No ? Coz none of those i've asked to come for measurement actually told me it's chargeable. so i take it as FREE and WITHOUT OBLIGATION.
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yupp ur case is little funny lousy sales person not professional at all, he was very desperate for the money ? any amount will do? he scare u dun have money to pay so ask for any amount so that as long as cash ....... doh.gif Quotations is always FREE (if they provide u the floor plan) how can they charge u for a piece of paper with some typing efforts???
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:01 AM

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So sorry for all the forumer that had already send me email but havent reply, there must be 2 reason for that, 1 is i had over look your email, 2 is i still trying my best to reply. Since i been working on all the quote, drawing and site inspection from 8am to 3am everyday, but still try to work out all the work.

but recently here got all the interesting reply, so is taking sometime to read till update, just wish all of you get suitable person to make your house to be what you dreaming for.

Hv a nice day to all, i batter leave and continue on what i should do.
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post Aug 10 2011, 01:14 AM

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Can anyone here tell me how much is the estimated cost for this tv cabinet? and what material fir the back panel? thanks in advance thumbup.gif

kindly refer to the attached.


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post Aug 10 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 9 2011, 11:16 PM)
WOW a lot of queries!! ok one by one. most of the standard approach for walk-in customers to showroom they will ask u to provide a floor plan and they will estimate the costs of the cabinet, once u're satisfy with the material thinggy then they will ask u to have booking fees to enable them to go over ur house to take the measurements once measurement confirmed then then the quote is OK then deal have to place 40-50% from the total amount to lock in and the works shud proceed to the factory > order the materials > waiting for the installations > all DONE > balance payments. that's the lower and medium end KC manufacturer practices. Higher end confirmed before measurement already 30-40% once measurement done the 3D drawing was completed then before installation already call for 2nd payment 30-40% again > everything done > final payment. AS I SAID IN PREVIOUS COMMENT RM 50 deposit until DONE only pay balance is UNBELIEVABLE !!!
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My colleague got her deal in balakong area, I donno how she got her deal but they proceed the work very very fast! 9 am already waiting at her house on the installaton day and finished within that day. But her project is smaller and simpler.

For my case, I'm concerned because i'll be paying 10% without getting a single thing that can safeguard myself. I read a post in anither topic here, a forummer kena after paying more than 1 k booking fees, kc raised their price significantly. I think i'll stick to no paying before getting measurement, final quotation and 3d. At most i'll pay rm50 considering they travel to my house to measure. 50% before getting a single piece of wood install in my house, do they really need that much? I know placing rm50 from start till end is not good lah, but say if I gave rm500 when confirming?
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post Aug 10 2011, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(sauming @ Aug 10 2011, 01:14 AM)
Can anyone here tell me how much is the estimated cost for this tv cabinet? and what material fir the back panel? thanks in advance thumbup.gif

kindly refer to the attached.
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I think the cost should be around 4~6k for the whole thing, back penal should be Spray paint glass (for black area), laminate or spray paint MDF board (for white area)
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post Aug 10 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Aug 10 2011, 10:27 AM)
I think the cost should be around 4~6k for the whole thing, back penal should be Spray paint glass (for black area), laminate or spray paint MDF board (for white area)
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Thanks Tim, will it looks nice if the back panel is Melamine, which i believe it's the cheapest material?
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QUOTE(sauming @ Aug 10 2011, 11:52 AM)
Thanks Tim, will it looks nice if the back panel is Melamine, which i believe it's the cheapest material?
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If u still prefer the same effect, which glossy finish, you can choose to use laminate, but the reflection of laminate will a bit waving compare to glass. unless u feel ok with it. if not, using melamine there will no glossy but nice or not is only the question how you going to match and what is the feeling you want only. But for me, i seldom use melamine to do this kind of penal.
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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Aug 9 2011, 06:19 PM)
Sue.chan, Serofax, i'll continue to scout for other kc with free measuring.  kiv my current kc and tell them I want measuring, 3d drawing and quotation before paying. My colleague actually laughed at me, saying she only pay rm50 booking and everthing after job done.
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I paid RM200 as deposit..and then paid some when they installed the kc...and the balance after they installed my table top.
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Pm me his contact pls. Appreciate ^.^
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post Aug 11 2011, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Aug 10 2011, 10:00 AM)
My colleague got her deal in balakong area, I donno how she got her deal but they proceed the work very very fast! 9 am already waiting at her house on the installaton day and finished within that day. But her project is smaller and simpler.

For my case, I'm concerned because i'll be paying 10% without getting a single thing that can safeguard myself. I read a post in anither topic here, a forummer kena after paying more than 1 k booking fees, kc raised their price significantly. I think i'll stick to no paying before getting measurement, final quotation and 3d. At most i'll pay rm50 considering they travel to my house to measure. 50% before getting a single piece of wood install in my house, do they really need that much? I know placing rm50 from start till end is not good lah, but say if I gave rm500 when confirming?
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yeah u have ur every right to not paying money before measurement, since the markets got a lots of type of player ...... some may insists u to pay, some may even no need to pay until u satisfy with what u take. 40-50% is really the standard in the market for downpayment.... if ur total costs of goods is 1.5k i think 500 shud be not a problem for them to accept but if the amount was up to 10k would u think 500 will be enough for them to proceed the fabrication work? or put it this way if u're the boss and u're selling KC would u accept an order of 10k with 500 deposits? i bet u will said NO NO NO cause once u said u dunwan the KC already so the BOSS can sell the KC to others consumers? NO NO again coz this is customs made for u, it might not suite the size and the taste of the consumer!!! Of course dun simply place 40% deposit to whoever said they are doing KC, u need to survey their reputation mah. it's ur money, u made the choice......... nod.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Aug 9 2011, 05:40 PM)
i hv sent my floor plan to Enry on yesterday for quotation.

what is good & value material to be used on KC? as i prefer 3G + Malamine, is ok?
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Melamine not good... especially for KC. heard complain by so many of my frens b4. melamine is actually chipboard..


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:47 am
QUOTE(ezonemy @ Aug 9 2011, 09:07 AM)
if there will b comparison between all these kc, it should be categorized as below;
a) hospitality (the way they treat us when we are at their showroom)
b) friendliness ( the way the comm with us)
c) thruthfullness (telling us the comparison of products without trying to gain money)
d) honesty (giving us the true opinion and not just say ok for everything)
e) punctuality
f) calculative (are they goin to be calculative for very minor things ?)
g) after sales service

i seriously think we cant compare much on the price as its very subjective as per the customer. Some customes wants expensive type and maybe others looking for cheap but good looking its always depend on customes needs.

just my 2 cents.
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[COLOR=blue]1st - workmanship/ quality of product2nd- after sales service
3rd-honesty
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I do agree that most of company out there like to cheat us by lots diff kind of materials.
melamine, chipboard, compressed wood... they're all same.... rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by Evon Chan: Aug 11 2011, 11:47 AM
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Evon Chan @ Aug 11 2011, 11:31 AM)
Melamine not good... especially for KC. heard complain by so many of my frens b4. melamine is actually chipboard..


Added on August 11, 2011, 11:47 am
[COLOR=blue]1st - workmanship/ quality of product2nd- after sales service
3rd-honesty
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I do agree that most of company out there like to cheat us by lots diff kind of materials.
melamine, chipboard, compressed wood... they're all same....  rclxub.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Aug 11 2011, 02:14 AM)
yeah u have ur every right to not paying money before measurement, since the markets got a lots of type of player ...... some may insists u to pay, some may even no need to pay until u satisfy with what u take. 40-50% is really the standard in the market for downpayment.... if ur total costs of goods is 1.5k i think 500 shud be not a problem for them to accept but if the amount was up to 10k would u think 500 will be enough for them to proceed the fabrication work? or put it this way if u're the boss and u're selling KC would u accept an order of 10k with 500 deposits? i bet u will said NO NO NO cause once u said u dunwan the KC already so the BOSS can sell the KC to others consumers? NO NO again coz this is customs made for u, it might not suite the size and the taste of the consumer!!! Of course dun simply place 40% deposit to whoever said they are doing KC, u need to survey their reputation mah. it's ur money, u made the choice.........  nod.gif
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all these is based on trust..
the best way for me is.. u have to know what u want 1st. nowdays internet, email, phone is so convenient. why don give a call to 3-4 company 1st, let them explain to you. then tell them wht u want. roughly get price from them.
or u can simply draft a simple measurement send to them. let them know wht material u want to use.
basicly, if u find u r hard to trust anyone. do some research lo.. so easy to get info online.
as i know. there are 2 diff type of wood.

1) melamine = chipboard = compressed wood (heavier, as its compressed, and have gum inside) suitable to do wardrobe, study table. as its both side lamite with formeka.

2) Block Board = Solid Wood (Lighter, made from real solid wood, 1 side white colour, and another sides is ur choice u Formeka laminate.

solid wood- RM 160/ftr
melamine- RM 130/ftr
(base unit and top unit are same price) except u already have concrete table.

If u have concrete table
solid wood- RM110/ftr include doors & drawers
melamine- RM 80/ftr include doors & drawers.Attached Image Attached Image

3G (added glass on formeka come with aluminium frame) for 20ft cabinets. usually need to + RM700-RM800


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QUOTE(magnifizio @ Aug 9 2011, 02:49 PM)
If anyone would like to have the following photos:

(a) Photos/Sample of Full range for kitchen worktop selection (hardboard top, solid surface top, granite top)
(b) Photos/Sample of Full range for kitchen door selection (melamine & 3G glass door)
© Photos/Sample of Full range for sliding & swing wardrobe door panel selection (Frosted Glass, Clear Glass, Melamine board, Colour Glass and Mirror)
(d) Photos/Sample of Hinges that you use for both your kitchen cabinets and wardrobe.

I would be glad to forward it.
Pm me if you want them.
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Dear all,

I have sent to over 5 recipients.
Please do not pm me anymore.
I only did this as a courtesy to Unity Kitchen for sending me the samples.
Please note that i do not promote or endorse Unity Kitchen.
I am still deciding whether to acquire their services.

Regards
Leo
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post Aug 11 2011, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(magnifizio @ Aug 11 2011, 03:28 PM)
Dear all,

I have sent to over 5 recipients.
Please do not pm me anymore.
I only did this as a courtesy to Unity Kitchen for sending me the samples.
Please note that i do not promote or endorse Unity Kitchen.
I am still deciding whether to acquire their services.

Regards
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If they are photos, please post them up on Photobucket or similar image sharing site. smile.gif Thanks.


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QUOTE(Evon Chan @ Aug 11 2011, 12:18 PM)
all these is based on trust..
the best way for me is.. u have to know what u want 1st. nowdays internet, email, phone is so convenient. why don give a call to 3-4 company 1st, let them explain to you. then tell them wht u want. roughly get price from them.
or u can simply draft a simple measurement send to them. let them know wht material u want to use.
basicly, if u find u r hard to trust anyone. do some research lo.. so easy to get info online.
as i know. there are 2 diff type of wood.

1) melamine = chipboard = compressed wood (heavier, as its compressed, and have gum inside) suitable to do wardrobe, study table. as its both side lamite with formeka.

2) Block Board = Solid Wood  (Lighter, made from real solid wood, 1 side white colour, and another sides is ur choice u Formeka laminate.

solid wood- RM 160/ftr
melamine- RM 130/ftr 
(base unit and top unit are same price) except u already have concrete table.

If u have concrete table
solid wood- RM110/ftr include doors & drawers
melamine- RM 80/ftr include doors & drawers.Attached Image Attached Image

3G (added glass on formeka come with aluminium frame) for 20ft cabinets. usually need to + RM700-RM800
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Hey, Bro..
Are you really get melamine rm80pfr c/w doors & drawer??
I'm wondering where you can get such UNREASONABLE price..
it's totally not in the market price!
Mind to intro the contractor to me, mayb next time i can pass my project to him/her!!
Thank You smile.gif

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QUOTE(DrTay @ Aug 7 2011, 07:18 PM)
Has anyone tried Jims's service from Everskill Designs? I foound his contact in Facebook make a change. What do you guys think of Everskill and Unity? I am planning to do Kitchen Cabinets, Wardrobes, Tv cabinet, and Shoes cabinet.
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I just make up my mind chosen everskill design.today I went to their factory which gain me confidence of their work.the factory is big and around 30 workers.Steve explain how their production workflow.it seems sytemstic.he also explain to me their auto machine which can produce more and quality cabinets compare to manual labour.so in just a week,they can complete the order.I found Steve really helpful with not only give me a lots of suggestion and how's cabinet is make.thanks for ur patience.Steve,keep up ur good work
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QUOTE(ester lam @ Aug 11 2011, 10:46 PM)
I just make up my mind chosen everskill design.today I went to their factory which gain me confidence of their work.the factory is big and around 30 workers.Steve explain how their production workflow.it seems sytemstic.he also explain to me their auto machine which can produce more and quality cabinets compare to manual labour.so in just a week,they can complete the order.I found Steve really helpful with not only give me a lots of suggestion and how's cabinet is make.thanks for ur patience.Steve,keep up ur good work
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How about the price?
I believe they offer wider range of different doors and worktops?
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QUOTE(jforjean @ Aug 11 2011, 10:11 PM)
Hey, Bro..
Are you really get melamine rm80pfr c/w doors & drawer??
I'm wondering where you can get such UNREASONABLE price..
it's totally not in the market price!
Mind to intro the contractor to me, mayb next time i can pass my project to him/her!!
Thank You  smile.gif

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YES, Seriously. If You're from seremban. out of seremban. i think they'll charge for transport if u only do a KC.
actually Seremban price is much cheaper. If you do alot of works. it will be worth.
but, anything u can nego with tht person lah.

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