sorry to interrupt u guys, but i need some help.

i've just sat for F5 and F6 last semester

i'm taking F4 and another paper this semester. i was thinking of the combination of F4+F7 (one of the factor is the gap in between these both exam dates). say i pass these *pray hard *, my last 2papers of the Skill stage are F8 and F9 (exams two days in a row )

so should i choose F4+F7, or F4+F9?

based on my knowledge F7-->F8-->F9, meaning i need to have an understanding of F7 before proceeding to F8 and later on F9. correct? no?

or maybe i just take F4+F7 this semester and next semester F8+any of the P paper and next next semester F9+any of the P paper.

hope u guys can give some thought on these as i believe most of u guys have passed Part 2 .

Thank you in advance

Oops wording error
Some friends told me he ran biz class in MYS last time but not P3 in MYS. Maybe dont want to conflict with Parmindar or something. So his forte area is actually audit or biz ?
Anyway I had some student asking me to continue their studies in Singapore but lack the local knowledge there & i only known some in FTMS there.
Which college did Phillip taught at Singapore.

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Added on July 1, 2009, 1:39 amMy advice is always stick with balanced combo namely theory & calculation.
F4 is 100% theory & F7 is 75% calculation + 25% theory so its quite balanced compared to finance which is around 60% calculation.
You dont need F7 knowledge at all for F9 & very slightly for audit but its almost negligible.
F4 is purely memory work & F7 requires constant practice to build up speed & familiarity.

But I think taking finance will be better instead of reporting bcos :
- audit is quite difficult & coupled with finance it will be worse.
- since you will be taking core papers (especially P2) you need good grasp & still familiar with F7 areas to pass through smoothly.
- then you can use some of your area learned in F8 to be used in P1 as well. (so you can utilise F7 & F8 knowledge for P1 & P2).

Taking F4 & F8 is stricly non advisable since its quite unorthodox fo a student to choose 2 purely theory paper in a single seating (I have endured all 3 core paper & its a very stressful journey).

Just dont bring out another combo of not taking F4.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Jul 1 2009, 01:39 AM

I've attended P3 classes for IRC from Parmindar, 2months ++ classes from Marcus and 1 whole sem with Dinesh. So I might be able to ans some of ur queries if you intend to take p3 from either of the aforementioned lecturers.

Parmindar : Through his IRC I can quickly tell his lectures are very interesting and not boring. His notes are made such that it's easy to read and understand. Lots of acronyms to remember, lots of names to remember lots of examples. If you can put all those bombastic words n examples he gave in class in ur final exam, they could separate u from the rest of the students. Well I didn't attend his normal classes so can't comment much but judging from his IRC, his lectures are seriously not bad at all. Very easy to absorb what he taught.

Marcus : His analysis of questions is extremely good. He can really drill a concept(for certain areas only like for Q1) in ur head really good and his lectures are very very entertaining. However, he spent too much time on PESTEL/FIVE FORCES/VALUE CHAIN ETC and he goes through the last few chapters very fast and there were a lot of students complaining about his pace & his notes are quite messy. When he teaches something he skips here and there. At times, his lectures are very confusing. I'm not sure if he changed his way of lecturing. He has this framework for answering Q1 on "analysis of current position" which is extremely good. You get to practise a lot of questions under him.

Dinesh : His notes are good & quite complete(exception of HR topic) but at times freaking hard to understand(When I compare his notes to parmindar's notes i rather read parmindar's) . His lectures are freaking boring as he basically lectures according to the words in the notes. Somewhat doing direct reading. IMO, avoid this lecturer.

Basically P3 requires u to do a lot of questions. You can do PYQ and have a grasp of the paper(you'll really feel like u can nail the paper after doing 2002-2008, no joke). It would probably help if you attend classes from 1 lecturer and get notes from other lecturers (particularly parmindar's IRC notes). In the final exam though, you won't really have the time to write all the fancy examples you've learnt in class but they all formed part of your foundation & understanding. If you can write like bullets coming out from a machine gun, sure u'll hav all the time in world eh? . As for my personal choice, I would choose Parmindar among the 3. But I believe Michael would be the best. Phillip - no comment. But according some friends, his IRC was better than parmindar coz parmindar basically re-teach everything only.

Hope this helps

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 1 2009, 02:14 AM

I am planning to take F4 F7 F8 this semester.

Philip Woo teaching in SAA Singapore for F8, P1 & P3.

Ya, actually in his 2.6 class last time, he oso said P3 got lecturer in KSA and so may be not plan to any normal class for this paper.

If you have been impressed with parmindar examples at IRC I think you will be more amazed at his normal class. Since I had computerised my notes into my computer I can just bring it out here for preview :
Acquisition by Johnson & Scholes (partially) :
1) Reduces Competitive retaliation (rivals) = Oracle acquire Peoplesoft to cut down competition on ERP
2) Lack of resource / competence to develop strategy internally = IBM acquire Lotus (Lotus 123 spreadsheet & Notes)
3) Gives speedy entrance to new mkt / products = Pfizer acquire Warner Lambert : Lipitor (reduces LDL cholesterol)
But you must be hardworking at class to jolt down such examples & since he normally bring it out as he lectures (from memory).

Michael is almost similar but gives lesser examples (not because he dont know) but he practice the western method of key concepts rather than examples.

hey ppl, need some advise over here again

I'm still thinking of whether i should take p5( performance mgmt) or p7 ( audit ) .
I failed my F8 by 1 mark.. which means 49.. so i'm afraid to take p7.. but i heard p7 is easier than F8..
what is the diff btwn F8 and p7 basically?

hehe thank you Topace.

your reply really cleared my doubts. reading your advices and also looking at F9 syllabus and study guide, i decided to choose F9 together with F4.

thank you again

p1 philip or sheila??both of them onli conduct part time classes..any other recommended lecturer??

This post has been edited by innocence: Jul 1 2009, 07:06 PM

Philip is better. He's experienced and good. He has excellent technqiues to make you understand the subject. He's good in P1 but P3 wise I heard he's so so only, not as good as Parmindar i would say. And since he lectures in 2 plazes, you should think of KSA. Because same lecturer, cheaper fee. Why not? I think that is logic.

hey guys, how about Ms. Wong from Sunway. Is she the Ms. Wong Siew Choo as in page 1?? Thanks!!

Ok first of all P7 is definitely harder than F8.
F8 only requires student to react based on question asked. No practical knowledge is required & student only needs to familiarise with normal flows of systems & procedures like sales & purchase system.
P7 is quite different as it requires student with good grasp on P2 & have working experience b4 as in audit / assurance line. If you have sat for P3 you will understand what I mean by "biz knowledge".
Syllabus of P7 & F8 is quite similar with only minimal add-onn but the main difference is the way to answer in exam. Imagine CAT T7 with ACCA F5.
Normally people avoid taking audit in optional unless they are being bonded by an assurance firm or they just simply like audit.

personally i have attended shielas class . very exam based.

thanks again topace
I shall just go with p5 then..

Just got my ACCA log in code and password. Gosh they are efficient, it is only about two weeks since I pass my form through KSA

Anyway, in the My Qualification Progress section, there is this "You have successfully completed five out of 14 ACCA exams." Does this mean I am being exempted from taking 5 papers?

Sorry for such a noob question because I have been receiving mixed answers from ACCA and tuition providers

going to attend p5 class this sem. but too bad mr chow kim tai is not teaching p5 this sem. i message him and he told me he will teach p4 at crescendo jb and taylors subang this sem. but will teach p5 in crescendo jb in jan 2010. too bad he no more teaching p5 this sitting. confirm not going andrew pang for p5. left with with other choices maybe ian lim. but i am not sure whether his approach is like chow. i will pay the 1st term fee first and if ian lim is like andrew pang then i will just walk out of the class and just treat that money as my investment loss. btw, keith farmer confirm not teaching this sitting for those who need to know.

The answer is you dont have to sit for papers exempted.
However exemption doesnt actually mean you have passed or gained knowledge from those respective papers.
The simple analogy is if you are exempted from NS it doesnt mean you have all the prerequisite knowledge of defending the country.

btw, any1 here took P6 under Miss Kok from sunway? Is she reliable? If she's not reliable then im considering to take p6 as extra tuition at kolej bandar from chin ann. But I'm wondering is it really beneficial to go for classes under 2 different lecturers for p6? Any help wud be appreciated! Btw let's leave $$ matter aside. I have to pass this sem T_T.

And.. is sheila john the best lecturer available for P7? Wht shld i be aware of if I take P7 from her? thxx..

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 2 2009, 11:46 PM

So that's mean I only have to pay exemption fees for the 5 papers and never bother about them anymore? I have studied similar thing in Diploma which may be simpler but at least I have some basic knowledge about them

During my last sitting tax class I had known some sunway students taking under chin ann & a brief stint at CKF class. If you are only taking 2 optional paper for that sitting its quite ok but everyone knows what happened at sunway after that. Since tax syllabus is quite wide & practice a lot of assumptions most lecturer have differing views. Tax has the most contradicting views on syllabus content & the examiner has to notify in articles constantly. Thats why you can have multiple solutions to an answer.

Since this is Sheila first P7 class I am not sure what to expect.