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post Jun 26 2009, 07:03 PM

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ppl..i need recommendations of lecturers for f8,p1,p2 n p3..i hav yet to decide which combinations to take..but will most likely decide on which lecturers to go to den onli check timin of class..i hav absolutely no idea how lecturers in kl r like as i've been a sunway student for lower level papers..plz advice..pros n cons all needed for references..thanks..


Added on June 26, 2009, 7:21 pmn btw..wat's RE n RI??

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post Jun 26 2009, 07:40 PM

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erm..i meant in terms of classes conducted..some juz RE some juz RI some RE+ RI..wat r those yea??
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post Jul 1 2009, 06:58 PM

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p1 philip or sheila??both of them onli conduct part time classes..any other recommended lecturer??

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post Jul 5 2009, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Kaerna @ Jul 5 2009, 01:02 AM)
Well I was in Kiran's F8(2.6 then) classes, and she taught my audit paper during CAT time. I wouldn't say she's not a good lecturer(since some of my classmates like her style) I should say her style is very, rigid and not to my liking.. For a short moment I had also attended Mr. Goh Hong Lim's class and I would say I prefer Goh Hong Lim's style over Kiran(personal opinion). This is mainly because Mr. Goh like to relate his lectures with some practical experience during his working life, where Kiran is more like reading whatever it is written in your notes.
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I've attended Ms Kiran's n Mr Goh's class before. I'm not here to judge whether they are good or not. I'm only here to give some opinions on how I felt about attending their classes. I can't really adapt to their teaching methods. I personally think both methodologies adopted are almost equivalent to each others'. I've attended Philip Woo's first class today after going through some comments and advices and instantly i could tell, he is indeed a very good lecturer (worth mentioning that Parmindar is one as well rclxms.gif ).


Added on July 5, 2009, 11:13 pm
QUOTE(Kaerna @ Jul 5 2009, 01:02 AM)
I like how you apply your F5 knowledge in the case above (keep up the good job, you really need it in your Professional Paper  tongue.gif ) , but allow me to make some arguments of why it may not be suitable in the case of Sunway. We'll bring in Michael Porter's Five Forces to elaborate :
Supplier Bargaining Power
For several years, Sunway College has dominated Malaysia as the first and only Platinum approved Tuiton provider for ACCA. With such intense advertisment and marketing, there's no doubt Sunway is seen as a Premiere of all ACCA tuiton provider. With the culture of Malaysian of going to 'the best on paper', no doubt Sunway College will be their first choice, because it's Sunway College, and not who is in the lecturing team. You can revamp the entire lecturing team in Sunway UC but the students will keep on flocking in, because it's Sunway. Such brand and reputation generated means that Sunway can raise their price or whatsoever, and students can do nothing about it. Basically, the most important point is, Students are there because it's Sunway, not because of the lecturer .
Competition/Rivalry
For years Sunway University College(SYUC) has been sort of the sole provider of ACCA in Malaysia. 5 years ago, even I was not aware of the existense of Kasturi, McOrange or whatsoever. In other words, SYUC indirectly monopolise as the ACCA Tuiton Provider in Subang and surrounding areas. Therefore, even if the students are unhappy with a lecturer, they have no where else to go. Not many people have the luxury or time to move to study between KL and Sunway. For the sake of convenience, they rather stick to what's near. This situation is different compared to KL colleges where they are nearby, and offer competitive prices, and always attempt to 'steal' lecturers from one place or another.

Customer Bargaining power
Bringing the first 2 forces mentioned above, it is obvious that SYUC holds the bargaining power, so in a way, there's low customer bargaining power in SYUC, compare to KL colleges, where competition is high and exit/entry barriers are low , student have a little more bargaining power, although overall I would still say it is in the hands of the colleges

Threat Of Substitutes
I think this part is very similiar to the Rivalry Forces mentioned earlier. Basically since SYUC Subang as the sole premium tuiton provider, students don't really have choice do they?

Barriers to Entry
Students now prefer household lecturer names (Menon, Haneef,Daniel Ho etc) and would not likely to give new lecturer a chance. It will be hard for a new lecturer to make an impact(like in this forum, any unknown lecturer suggestions is shot down immediately). This is understandable based on 2 of JSW Strategic Lenses(Strategy as Design and Experience). Therefore, it is hard for KL colleges to gain students without reputable lecturers. SYUC depends a lot on the name Sunway, hence, they can introduce new lecturers and there will be no shortfall of students. Mind you, Brand name last longer than Lecturer's life.
That's about it. I welcome any constructive comments regarding my arguments above. smile.gif
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Students are there because it's Sunway, not because of the lecturer

This, I have to admit is so true. My parents and relatives went berserk when i enrolled myself into another college. To them, graduating from Sunway is the so important because it is a well known college. And they think sacrificing it to attend a smaller college in KL is not worth it at all even after I told them I'm only searching for the best lecturers around and the tuition fee is much cheaper and transportation problem can be solved as well. My dad even insist i return there. The only reason they keep repeating to me is that, Sunway is better! Sunway is better! I honestly think it's just the branding thing like how Kaerna puts it here. I have to admit the main reason why I was there in the first place is because of the platinum status. blush.gif

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post Aug 17 2009, 02:08 PM

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i failed my p2 terribly..hav to resit..izzit advisable to change lecturer now??coz i cant take de stress under menon..
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post Aug 17 2009, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(jacktai @ Aug 17 2009, 02:37 PM)
You a full time or partime student?? Me also in Menon class, but Menon are expert in P2, but if you just follow fully Menon instruction, its more then enough to pass. Even if you dun attend the class, just study hard and practice a lot sure can pass.
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full time..i noe she's an expert..i noe i shud attend her class but i'm havin transportation problem gettin to sunway..n neway,i dread attendin her class..i'm sure u noe how izzit like..stressful..not attendin class seems favourable..but i'm worried bout any changes or updates regardin de syllabus..anyone has any idea will there b any difference in syllabus tis sem as compared to last sem?
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post Aug 17 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(jacktai @ Aug 17 2009, 03:14 PM)
As told from Menon, there wont be any changes in syllabus for Dec 2009, but its better to get update from anyone is attending her class. Especially the current issue.

Yes Menon class is tired & stressful, long hours lecture & high expectation from student. Anyway, it help me to pass P2. I wont see her again in P2...
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lucky you.. congratulations.. u were in de full time class as well?? if yes, den i think you were my classmate.. smile.gif
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post Aug 19 2009, 12:47 AM

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edit tongue.gif

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post Sep 3 2009, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:37 PM)

Doesnt really make any major difference but if you are those guys that think (take at sunway hard to pass..... take at others quality is reduced, easier to pass.....) then my suggestion is to take at remote places.

During CAT I took at TARC, students there got aura of  icon_idea.gif ,exam under one large hall & you will see all kind of faces over there. Seen a girl crying bcos lack of time, guy sleeping bcos of boredom or confusion, got 1 student keep on asking extra booklet, one guy keep on going to the toilet,... but most shows that intimidating face that shows "I can do any question & score at every exam"..... brrr damn stressful.

Then I took at IPB (rejected at TAR bcos of geographical factor). The most relaxed place I ever been. At least half of the students are CAT not ACCA (both took together), hall is very long but not large so no need to see many faces over there. Most of the students are one kind, if you get my drill.
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is IPB de one at maluri? i heard there's one acca exam centre at maluri.. very near my place.. but dunno wat's de code.. sad.gif
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post Sep 12 2009, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Sep 10 2009, 08:06 PM)
I think I can help you with this since I practically walk to the pandan jaya LRT from my condo.
If from PJ lrt to KPTM it should be around 5 minutes.

IPB is very far, nearest is Maluri LRT which is roughly 15 to 20 minutes walk.

By all means please choose KPTM, if all those rumours about selection of centres is true then your chance to pass at KPTM is the highest of all centres. Just realise about the existence of this place after you guys mentioned it, never know what the building is called. Everybody called it Mara in my place, never realised it offers acca.
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me too..i used to sit for exam at ucsi till a fren of mine recently told me there's one at ipb which is quite near my place..now dat there's kptm..i'm like stayin at de housin area rite beside it..lol..
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post Sep 24 2009, 11:12 PM

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[quote=vin_ann,Sep 14 2009, 03:59 PM]wat is the full name of IPB?

is it the 1 nearby the kg pandan track there? opposite the primary / secondary sch???
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opposite st gabriel..not directly opposite though..but somewhere nearby.. smile.gif


Added on September 24, 2009, 11:14 pm
Added on September 14, 2009, 5:36 pm

Yep the same but most people went to the wrong building the first time going there (got 2 building with similar name).
Full name is Institut Professional Baitulmal, offer CAT & some cert to do with tax.
My old sec school SAB is around the corner too tongue.gif Never thought will go back to that area.
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ur from sab?

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post Oct 6 2009, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(extreme.k @ Oct 5 2009, 07:17 PM)
Guy,

Anyone know the full name of "IPB" exam center?

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if i'm not mistaken, it is institut professional baitulmal.. smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Oct 9 2009, 10:12 PM)
If you joined Big 4 without doing acca, then you must take up a professional course if you are applying for audit position.
If you take acca then you MUST take P6 & P7 (bcos it is the most relevant for audit profession)
P7 is like a bonus since those with audit experience can apply inside but for those that didn't maybe a bit clueless.
P6 is the paper that they all hate since the scope is too large so need to spend more to time to study.

P5 is the paper they all will choose but very little application in audit & fresh graduates (forecasting & budgeting are reserved for senior people)
P4 ........ try to avoid if possible, good if you want to pursue CFA later on but ........... not worth the risk. In my seating everyone who have taken it will fail if examiner does not lower the passing rate.

You basicly answer your own question, if paper is very tough but with little practical purpose why people still bother to take it right ? Always have "give & take" or "pros & cons" situation. Another thing if you want to pursue career in audit prepare to work late.
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i thought last time you mentioned that it isn't compulsory to take up p6 n p7 if we wanna get into big 4. i'm confused. sad.gif
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post Oct 31 2009, 11:14 PM

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can anyone brief me regardin philips woo's class today b4 lunch break? pls.. any help or advice wud b very much appreciated..
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post Dec 29 2009, 01:54 AM

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may i noe where is chow kim tai n daniel ho teachin now? any other recommended lecturers for p4 n p5? urgently in need of advices.. tq..
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post Dec 30 2009, 04:21 PM

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any other recommended lecturers for p5 besides chow kim tai? can't make it to taylors.. besides andrew pang, any other?
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post Jan 1 2010, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(qualityyap @ Dec 31 2009, 11:32 AM)
Other choices in kL if taylors is too far:

Bandar Low chin Ann
FTMS Tenesh
Oic Ian
PAAC RAJ

I dunno who will be the choices as i did not do P5 yet as a choice .
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anyone who tried p5 b4?
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post Jan 4 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(tan8 @ Jan 4 2010, 07:58 PM)
anyone here ever submitted their ACCA subscription late before? Any penalties or consequences for that??
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i havent submitted my subscription yet.. wen i ask d admin in mco today.. they told me i can submit it wif my exam fee tis comin sem.. blink.gif
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post Feb 22 2010, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(maymayflower @ Feb 22 2010, 02:47 PM)
i know why i fail P2, because didn't put enough effort, although go to class, if didn't practice is no use. So this round I will self study for June sitting.

While for P5 i bought text book to self study, but didn't really study,  got 56 marks pulak, so can confirm P5 is the easiest among all optional papers. rclxub.gif
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may i noe who's class u attended b4 tis for p2? i failed p2 as well.. same case wif u.. havin half a mind to self study but there'll b updates, no?

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