Just wondering does 100plus has more benefit than bad?
Its still carbonated drink rite?

half bottle of 1.5litre during 2 hours my badminton session for 2days/week is acceptable?

Questions first:

Why do you drink 100+?

gives/restore energy?

Research shown that isotonic drink does not give/restore energy, it is just water with a bit of other nutrients and most of all, it tastes good.

So what does?

They're not supposed to "give energy", the idea is rehydration and replacement of lost electrolytes.

Only use it when you are dehydrated (usually from a severe vomit or diarrhea)

... Usually from diarrhea? Wtf... A more commonly encountered cause of dehydration = exercise.

I get the feeling that you guys need a small lesson in something called chemistry.

faster to restore your stamina maybe

malaysiaPotato : sabar, sabar.

Erm more or less the same?
Less dehydrate = more energy?

So does it do more good than bad?
Will my tummy get bigger?

2 days a week is absolutely no problem.

Good :- It replaces the electrolytes that you lose when playing Badminton. The sugar shouldn't be a problem since Badminton, being is a strenuous game, should burn off easily. Indirectly it contributes to your energy and stamina.

Bad:- It's carbonated.

why would drinking 100+ make your tummy get bigger? even if it does , its just gas inside.
100+ is good when your body are dehydrated, thats all

Its not a miracle cure/weight loss drink or something.... some people just drink it because it tasted good, not because it will boost their strength

No, not more or less the same.

Dehydration... Simply put, it's about water, dehydration is the loss of water. 100plus is designed to rehydrate you more quickly than plain water would, it also replaces lost electrolytes which you lose when you sweat. If you want a more detailed explanation on sports drinks, energy drinks, energy... wikipedia(I know alot of people say it's not necessarily credible) can give you a general idea.

Does it do more good than bad? Depends. If you need to rehydrate yourself, it's good. If you don't, it's a waste of money. Each can contains a certain amount of sugar, which = calories. If you're fat, and not doing anything, then those calories will add to your fat.
Will your tummy get bigger... Calories in vs calories out I suppose.

Most people get along fine just drinking plain water for rehydration.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 24 2009, 01:02 AM

The more I read the forums here, the more I think we'll need some sort of nutrition FAQ out.

This week so damn busy. Will do one general one next week.

i think 1.5L is too much... would recommend taking 1L and 1L of water.. for a 2 hour badminton session.. too much salt in ur body might cause high blood pressure.

I really don't think it's directly salt per say. I can't totally remember what's it but it's something like 10% sugars and electrolytes in the form of sodium, potassium, chloride, and bicarbonate. Can't be THAT much sodium in a 1.5L bottle right? Anyway, the amount of sweat one can generate in a 2 hour badminton session is MAJOR

A simple way to describe electrolytes is a substance with some sort of charge in it. Either positive or negative.

The sodium, potassium, chloride and bicarbonate could be calculated in one element e.g. sodium Na or with the charge, Na+.

In chemistry terms, they are known as salts because when they dissolve in water, e.g. NaCl, they dissolve into components known as electrolytes i.e. with charges of Na+ and Cl-. Table salt is NaCl. But like I said, the chemistry definition is somewhat different when it comes to salts.

This is probably a layman explaination. For details, you would have to look up chemistry links. I could have some loopholes somewhere coz this is Form 4 chemistry which was like so long ago.

errr... salt as in metal salts not cooking salt.. they are still the electrolytes we are describing right? doesnt have to be sodium... agreed.

in 2 hours of badminton it is usually recommended 2 L of fluid, however i still think 1.5L of 100+ is too much. i jog 100 minutes everyday and usually my intake is a light mixture of ribena with cooking salt around 1L. before my fitness jogs i take 1L for every 1 hour and the intake lessen now.

the good thing about these drinks nowadays is vit C. oh, i am wondering is there gatorade here in msia? every1 in the states seems to be crazy over it.

i'll agree with plain fluid intake...

and to answer the TS' question, i guess 100+ is okay after strenous exercise..but not okay if one drinks for leisure....

n yes, i worked for gatorade once about 5 years back, during my schol's sports day...distributing free gatorade....but i dont see their drinks in stalls...strange...

I personally would not want to rely on 100+ for my replenishing after an exercise. It's too sweet to be good.


The reason why I only use it for diarrhea or vomit is because....let's face it, we'd rather really not drink water + cooking salt. In this case, the hundred plus with it's sweet taste will aid your appetite to chug it down.

You didn't read properly. TS said half of 1.5L for 2 hrs of badminton.

wat ever la.. half or full 1.5l for 2 hour badminton training.. jus biasa nia la.. not like u gonna die of hypothermia.. drink as much as u can.. but not in 1 go.. water will cos ur tummy in chinese cal "man chang" .. drink lightly but frequently.. too much fluid during training will jus make u feel slow..

Sports drinks are designed for athletes who push their bodies alot harder than the typical active person. Maybe it's too sweet to be good for you, but the small amount of carbohydrates provided seems to work for athletes, look at gatorade.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 24 2009, 12:42 PM

the main different between isotonic drink and plain water is its salt content (form 5 biology ). its used to replace ur body fluid faster than drinking plain water. and the reason why 100+ is carbonated, its taste nice. as one know, carbonated drinks swallow ur vit C in ur body.

if u wan to avoid carbonated drink, try to use Gatorade.... its non-carbonated isotonic drink

wat ever la.. half or full 1.5l for 2 hour badminton training.. jus biasa nia la.. not like u gonna die of hypothermia..

if you want to build up your body ... just drink water

when your body is stressed .. it'll adapt itself and become stronger


there's also debate similiar to this, but it's about taking vit.c before exercise to cut down oxidization of cell, since vit.c is an anti-oxidant

some say yes, some say no ... for no, is becoz when body produce lactic acid while exercising due to lack of oxygen (which badminton ussually do), the body get stressed and becomes tired, but in doing so, the body get stronger the next day (after recovering)


enough say, the more you stress, and tax your body, the stronger it gets

but keep in mind, recovering is a part of exercise as well, the more you stress, the more recovering time is need in case of Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (go google)


tip: the more sweat you drop, means the less salt content in your blood
tip: depending to the body activity & job , site workers has more salt content than office ppl, keep in mind not to exceed/decrease salt intake for health

i think 100+ is just a drink to refresh you. Not really give energy.

oh, my bad... if it is 0.75L meaning a small bottle, then i think it is fine.

100+ is an isotonic drink not energy drink. u r right.

Thin fellas will always say it's good, and fat fellas will always say it's bad.

And the inbetween people will always say something in between.

It's really subjective isn't it. Some people will notice a difference because they're at a point where that little difference matters, some people won't and will do just as well with plain water.

whenever i have diarrhoea doctor will recomend 100 plus without gas.

At the end of the day, it's all about personal choice too.

The thing with bodybuilders is that normal nutrition rules do not necessarily apply to them in all cases. That's what I gather from malaysianPotato.

I suspect that the answer may lie in one of the many bodybuilding.com posts. The short time I had to glance too it, it had a lot of good information, including the mistakes to avoid that I'm currently seeing.

When you guys want to argue, argue with a bit more facts lah.

Wasn't pointing towards bodybuilders specifically. More in the general direction of athletes. Guys who push alot harder than the average active person for longer periods.

yea... a bit like eno but eno less calories i think... the main purpose is to prevent dehydration... but too much will cause water retentinoi n the body?

ROFL hypothermia is the artifical reduction of body heat to lower down metabolism. AKA sub normal body temperature When a person goes into hypothermia it is the body's mechanism trying to preserve itself.

Anyways back to topic. I'm not from Chemistry background nor Nutritional Science, but from what i know,

Isotonic drinks contain electrolytes and ions
Isotonic drinks are carbonated and have relatively high contents of sugar

I put isotonic drinks in the same basket with soda/pop like Coke, Pepsi and the likes. In my humble opinion, these drinks should be drunk as little as possible due to the sugar contents in it. If i am not wrong, there are about 9 tea spoons worth of sugar in one can of soda.

Does isotonic drink quench thirst better? I don't know
Does isotonic drink get absorbed quicker? I don't know

Mainly it is the sugar content (and price) of the isotonic drink versus normal boiled water.

Lastly a poster mentioned about water retention. I'm not sure of drinking alot of water causes water retention. Water retention usually happens mostly in women. I still am not fully knowledagable enough to say that water intake promotes it, but i don't think so.
Reasons are that each day we need to drink about 9 cups was it? of water to clean our system from toxins. (in not so many words, drink until your pee is white in color) hence i don't think that drinking a lot of water results in water retention.

Ah me bad. Sorry for that.

The concept behind sports drinks are that they provide a carbohydrate(energy source) boost while rehydrating you better than normal water(sodium) would and help to maintain your electrolyte level(cause water intoxication sucks).

Not all isotonic drinks are carbonated and they usually have abit less sugar than coke, pepsi, etc.

So it's not really the sugar content that makes them different in comparison to normal water, it's the total package and the way it's formulated for specific users(lot's of different kinds of sports drinks with different nutritional values).

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Mar 25 2009, 01:22 AM

if u wan to boost your energy, y dont u try to eat BANANA? it full of simple carbohydrate and easy to be digested.

i use them when i go for hiking. i also saw Rafael Nadal eat them in tennis tournaments.

If you read my posts carefully you would notice that what I posted was Sarcasm. I was just re-quoting the same 'hypothermia' sentence mentioned by someone else.

i think anything if u take too much ..
than u will meet heaven soon

well r u referring to me then? i m being sarcastic to another guy also.. asking drink to much will it do harm to us..

100plus during workouts day is fine. else, lotsa' mineral water will be just fine during the rest day.

what's so hard to take water after sports?

No good for health... plain water better...

i used to drink alot of 100plus when i got fever.

This post has been edited by ahcheap: Mar 26 2009, 04:09 PM

Why not try Gatorade instead of 100+?
Non-carbonated isotonic drink

i would say 100+ is good during sports, prevent dehydration, cramps and many more problems if you just drink plain water.

i agree with u...electrolite balance most importance..if not balance ..as result will show negative feed back from our body.. ex: calcium.. if we take so much calsium..when our body cant absorb it anymore then it will become full in our blood..as result we will get joint pain and body ache ..


p/s sory for my bad english language..huhu

so conclusion?

100+ is better den water?

If so hw does either one compare to gatorade? or livita?

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Apr 18 2009, 10:11 AM

gatorade is just like 100+ lor. i dont know the difference.

i used to take livita b4 exams coz i burn mid night oil T.T

personally, i dont take 100+ or any similar sort of drink. i only take plain water coz my concern is always about sugar . i dont wanna be a diabetic next time -.-

during training, dun drink 100plus. After training, only drink 100plus, because 100plus cool down ur body and make u relaxed

100+ is better than water only when you are doing excersise or have sweat a lot. if your not sweating excessively its better to drink water.

when comparing 100+ to gatorade.... im not sure because even though gatorade is not carbonated.... it probably has the same amount of sugar and what not.

comparing 100+ and gatorade to....livita? livita is an energy drink. i dun think you wanna drink that before sports...i guess some would. thats basically all sugar and caffiene.

just my dua sen.

so many 100 Plus product LIKE in the market, Plain Water is still the best...otherwise you end up with diabetes after few years if drink lot of 100+

100 plus is good if u were havin fever... if in sports.. u need to take isomax...lolx

Plain water isn't actually always the best, it depends on the purpose and situation. No, you don't end up with diabetes after a few years of drinking 100+, and "alot" is subjective.

warm 100plus would be alright.
as i know quite many doctors introduce patients to take 100plus when they r heaty.
anyway, any food with excess intake would be a toxic, so, agak agak lar XD

if livita is an energy drink..y nt take it BEFORE sports??
improve performance? gives you energy?

I doubt you need the 'energy' or 'electrolytes' from any energy drink unless you train more than 1 hour everyday. Like maybe 1-2 hours then you only need 1 energy drink. If only exercising <1 hour then plain water is good enough. If you just workout a short while then drink all the sugar from an energy drink all your effort is wasted for nothing.

anyone heard of Sportade.. the strwberry taste is really good.

I m curious.I heard a lot of people suggesting drink more 100 plus if you sick(fever, flu, etc).What's the relevant?

It helps replace the electrolites. You aren't getting enough from food (since you can't eat much).
And to prevent dehydration.

This thread tak habis-habis.
Go read the label of 100Plus...
then come and ask more specific questions.
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All these people... one fine day, some fellas are gonna ask -->
Eat rice good or not? Eat chicken good or not? Drink water good or not? Eat fruits good or not? Eat protein good or not?

Eat good or not.

Eat not gooooooood!
Can die one. Better don't eat. Starve is a better choice.

















Woahahahahahah!
=P

Drink tea or plain liquid during workout.

Those posers good for them, drink more ice lemon tea, get more fats around the waist area. Hahahahahaha!

As an isotonic drink, 100+ will replace any electrolytes you may lose from excessive sweating etc. But at the end of the day, it is still a calorie packed sugary soda drink which you should avoid if you're trying to lose weight as it will add on to your calorie count

Basically, drink 100+ moderately but drink water more. I tried Pocari Sweat today (Jap version of 100+) still prefer 100+

how much is 100+

well..wat abt when i run me long runs, say 20km? or bike like 120km+ to 160km+ ??
or when i do brick training?

i guess i do qualify for energy drinks then..

This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Apr 20 2009, 01:47 PM

Plain liquid will do, as long you keep yourself hydrated all time.

Like my stomach already get used to it whenever I do cardio, after I jog or sprint for 5 mins, I'll drink 100ml of water, then after 3 mins I jog again. No problem, I don't feel pain in stomach.

Cardio for 30minutes straight without water, you sure won't do your best.

Yea I definetely get dehydrated after jogging/running 45-60mins without drinking any water. After I finish I drink like 4-6 glasses water immediately to quench thirst. And some lowfat milk for some protein.

If you can stomach it, eat a banana instead of an energy drink. Those professional tennis players eat bananas in between sets to get an energy surge from the fructose, prevent muscle cramps from the potassium, and it has less than 100 calories in it.

1 thing for sure, if ur body feels hot, drink 100plus

WATER IS THE BEST!!!

And they don't drink plain water. Look at the bottles, alot of the times they're filled with coloured fluids, probably gatorade?

hm didn't see sorry, maybe they drink energy drinks too

Most probably don't drink energy drinks, they probably drink isotonic drinks.

Carbonated sugar drinks suck. 100+ reminds me of the green goo in Idiocracy.. because it's got electrolytes!

When I see questions like these, I think it's time to update this link :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/350964

There's always a danger of quoting someone else's work and not maintaining it well, especially when nutrition information changes every few months.

ya.. i agree with u eventhough u are sick or not many doctor will recommend their patient to drink 100plus, not even adult but children too. oh ya, one more thing is drink it with salt when u have a sore throat its very good but then ofcoz skyjuice is the best

avoid from drinking too much 100+..
can cause diabetes...><

energy drinks are not very good, it will make ur heart pump faster and can cause heart failure if u treat it as 100 plus

itzzit ?? hmm... then should less drink unless is necessary lo

What type of sugar in it? Sucrose? Fructose? High fructose corn syrup? Or glucose.

Because sugar type matters.

Might no be glucose. Because 100 plus is sweet.

implying glucose is not sweet? what logic is this?

it is very hard to know what type of sugar as there is such thing called ingredient list on every bottle/ can that people find very hard to turn the item around and read it

Evening

Bad.

Gassy.

Too sweet.

Eat it after meal, stomach discomfort.

I changed to Gatorade; but now stopping that too.

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Aug 26 2015, 06:48 PM

maybe I dont finish my statement yet. Most manufacturer dont put details what kind of sugar they use. Considering profit/efficiency for companies nowadays, they likely use high fructose corn syrup
(fructose alone is 1.7 sweeter than glucose -thus need less to produce more).

In nature, fructose come together with Sucrose and Fibre. but nowadays they manage to extract fructose alone.

Fructose is foreign to our body sugar absorption system, and it takes Liver to do the hardwork to metabolize it. Once Liver is overloaded with processing fructose, it lost its vitality.
some kind of stress substance, such as ALT rises.

I think government/FDA should make it mandatory for manufacturer to put in what kind of sugar source they use.

I should say before 100 plus is too sweet. Not just sweet

hope this clarifies.

This post has been edited by abcxyz: Aug 29 2015, 09:41 PM

Now Gatorade own by Pepsi. A name synonymous with sweet drinks.
For me plain/mineral water is the best.

This post has been edited by abcxyz: Aug 29 2015, 09:41 PM

Guys, how about so called healthy drink such as horlicks, milo, vico, etc?

Just plain sugar...

just don't consume too much.. plain water always the best