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TSCyberianHusky
post Mar 23 2009, 10:02 AM, updated 15y ago

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Ok, since i know lot of pple having this model, so it will be convinient to have its own thread to discuss anything related to it.

For those who own it already, Price and shop is not an issue, because it is all now depends on Panasonic Warranty for the next 5 Years.

Please share with us here if you're having problems with warranty claims, technical issues, etc.

adios.

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post Mar 23 2009, 12:12 PM

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Could anyone please share the Picture Setting.
Mine just graduated over 200hrs.
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post Mar 23 2009, 02:48 PM

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Where and how to check the hours usage?
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:45 AM

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Where and how to check the hours usage?
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# Hold down the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV itself. Not Remote
# Press the {RECALL} button on the remote control 5 times.
# The Service Menu will be displayed.

# Use the {2} buttons to select "SRV-TOOL"
and press the {OK} button to access it.

# HIGHLIGHT the box on the right side of the last option: (Navigate by using the arrow buttons on the remote)
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PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

# Then press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for 3 seconds.

TIME = Hours and Minutes of Operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was Powered On.

# To exit, press & hold the {POWER} button on the TV for few seconds.
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post Mar 24 2009, 12:30 PM

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cool!

hey,

anybody tried the Monster cable with this model? what's the result of improvement with ASTRO?


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post Mar 24 2009, 08:11 PM

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cheapest now is 2999 rite?
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post Mar 24 2009, 09:57 PM

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cheapest now is 2999 rite?
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Sir, wait for the latest 2009 model la, PV80 obsolete soon.... just nice for your new mansion. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 24 2009, 09:57 PM)
Sir, wait for the latest 2009 model la, PV80 obsolete soon.... just nice for your new mansion.  rclxms.gif
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Oi, do you suggest the pv80 will become more cheap because of the new model(s), or do you mean we should simply wait for the new and improved version...?


Added on March 24, 2009, 11:09 pmI want to add to this reply that if you're an xbox360 owner I cannot image a better screen to play your games on. Of course there are always better alternatives, but the pana has the best price/quality ratio if you'd ask me!

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post Mar 25 2009, 09:44 AM

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3K is about the lowest it will go. The PV80 will be replaced soon with whatever name and I bet it will hit 4k+ price again. Then all these folks will hunker down for the PV80 and no more liao and then hope and wait for next 2 yrs or the new PV80 to drop price every 3 months and the vicious cycle repeat itself!

3K is from those cash and carry or Low yat trader and if yuo want from retailer like SH, Court, Harvey etc it cost at least 3.5k

BTW, the PV80 is 5 yrs warranty. I doubt the replacement will carry that many years of warranty.

So far very happy with the PV80 for the last 2 weeks! Great on Wii, web surfing, Astro, and crappy DVD! Have not tried the HD movie yet. Saving up to buy the WD TV box but I already got the WD Book HD loaded with movies.
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post Mar 25 2009, 09:49 AM

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i'm interested to get one!

where did you guys get it for RM3k @ 5 years warranty from?


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post Mar 25 2009, 09:56 AM

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what does the 5 years warranty cover and not cover?

thanks in advance. smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2009, 10:32 AM

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Think I throw away the card already! One thing for sure it won't cover any burn in or ghosting on the display!

This same for any Plasma TV.

5yrs warranty is standard for the PV80. Just search here in LYN, you will see the retailers.
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QUOTE(DikkieD @ Mar 24 2009, 11:02 PM)
Oi, do you suggest the pv80 will become more cheap because of the new model(s), or do you mean we should simply wait for the new and improved version...?


Added on March 24, 2009, 11:09 pmI want to add to this reply that if you're an xbox360 owner I cannot image a better screen to play your games on. Of course there are always better alternatives, but the pana has the best price/quality ratio if you'd ask me!
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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Mar 25 2009, 09:44 AM)
3K is about the lowest it will go. The PV80 will be replaced soon with whatever name and I bet it will hit 4k+ price again. Then all these folks will hunker down for the PV80 and no more liao and then hope and wait for next 2 yrs or the new PV80 to drop price every 3 months and the vicious cycle repeat itself!

3K is from those cash and carry or Low yat trader and if yuo want from retailer like SH, Court, Harvey etc it cost at least 3.5k

BTW, the PV80 is 5 yrs warranty. I doubt the replacement will carry that many years of warranty.

So far very happy with the PV80 for the last 2 weeks! Great on Wii, web surfing, Astro, and crappy DVD! Have not tried the HD movie yet. Saving up to buy the WD TV box but I already got the WD Book HD loaded with movies.
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lolz of course current owners of pv80 will say this, defending their purchase.really nub:x everybody is waiting for the 2009 model, improved PQ and it will be the same price as discussed in lcd tv thread.why get old model when you can have new?that's why this thread is not active all,face the fact pv80 is going to obsolute.


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lolz,check this out 2009 models...


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post Mar 25 2009, 11:35 AM

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The pv80 is a great model indeed. Don't worry, you all have amde a good purchase. Like handphones, models change all the time, but improvement is not really that noticeable.
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i think we shall wait for the 2009 model to launch before making any statement, the improvement noticable or not we shall all know then. no need to speculate. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Mar 25 2009, 09:44 AM)
3K is about the lowest it will go. The PV80 will be replaced soon with whatever name and I bet it will hit 4k+ price again. Then all these folks will hunker down for the PV80 and no more liao and then hope and wait for next 2 yrs or the new PV80 to drop price every 3 months and the vicious cycle repeat itself!

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Quite true, when PV80 was released it was 4200. It was at least 2 years till it came down again.

It is all about the money. Current 3k is affordable with 5 years warranty is the best deal. By 2013, we can always look forward to a better, improved model.


Added on March 25, 2009, 11:49 am
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what does the 5 years warranty cover and not cover?

thanks in advance. smile.gif
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Cover - forgot oledi, but including transportation + parts + labour cost

Not Cover

Thunderstrike & Theft. SH offer 70 for extra cover to Thunder & Theft.

If u dont buy from SH, go to AIG to get the Home Contents insurance. Premium is 180-350, but they insured all your house electrical + furniture.

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post Mar 25 2009, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Mar 25 2009, 11:45 AM)
Quite true, when PV80 was released it was 4200. It was at least 2 years till it came down again.

It is all about the money. Current 3k is affordable with 5 years warranty is the best deal. By 2013, we can always look forward to a better, improved model.
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I don't think so you have to wait 2013. I think by 2011 or latest 2012, a new model would come out again!

Look at Sony, so fast new model comes out!. Nowdays, we cannot keep up to the latest trend as they change models so fast. I think plasma model changes are becoming like handphones.

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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Mar 25 2009, 11:50 AM)
I don't think so you have to wait 2013. I think by 2011 or latest 2012, a new model would come out again!

Look at Sony, so fast new model comes out!
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My warranty finished 2014. Others should be around 2013. Every year got new model.

If 1 TV is enuff for ur home, So after 2013/2014 will start looking for new. Target will be 50" should be affordable also by that time.

So its not a loss buying almost obsolete model if the price is right.


Added on March 25, 2009, 11:58 am
QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Mar 24 2009, 12:30 PM)
cool!

hey,

anybody tried the Monster cable with this model? what's the result of improvement with ASTRO?
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Anybody have some test results yet?

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post Mar 25 2009, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Mar 25 2009, 11:56 AM)
My warranty finished 2014. Others should be around 2013. Every year got new model.

If 1 TV is enuff for ur home, So after 2013/2014 will start looking for new. Target will be 50" should be affordable also by that time. 

So its not a loss buying almost obsolete model if the price is right.
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You are right. By that time 50 inch would be much much lower than now. I think 50 inch might even be RM3000
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QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Mar 25 2009, 11:56 AM)


Added on March 25, 2009, 11:58 am

Anybody have some test results yet?
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S-video will result in better colour reproduction and a more accurate brightness on the picture. Composite cables carry all this information in a single cable. S-video separates the Y (Luminance) from the C (Chroma) thus improving these aspects. Since the information is separated it will reduce noise from the transmission thus eliminating dot crawl. The picture will appear slightly clearer. However, do not aspect miracles. The amount of compression in Astro transmissions are huge, it will not even come close to DVD quality.
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Anybody went to pyramid today to see the new models?
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post Mar 25 2009, 09:30 PM

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Hey Sony trinitron

I wonder what angle you coming from and with that handle I really wonder...

If we want to syiok sendiri, let us be... not that we biatch about it in your thread or Sony section. You coming across as ADD child and go back to whatever forum and let us be!

Just indulge with your flawed logic, all new model will carry upgrades and improvement and its depend on the buyer if the new changes worth the money! Having said that, when PV80 was lauched selling at 4.5K, I'm sure the new model when its launched it will not far off this price.. but when we can buy the PV80 at less than 3K vs a guy bought it 6 months ago for 3.8k!! What else is there to think...
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why can't i find any plasma model info on the pv42x10..

is it this model http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702


TC-P42X1
NEW! 42" Class (41.6" Diagonal) VIERA® X1 Series Plasma 720p HDTV with 600Hz Sub-field Drive for crisp, focused images, VIERA Image Viewer® for easy photo sharing, and VIERA Link® to control all compatible devices with a single remote

•720p Resolution
•Contrast Ratio: 30,000:1 Native; Infinite Black Panel
•720 Lines of Moving Picture Resolution
•600Hz Sub-field Drive
•VIERA Image Viewer™
•VIERA Link™
•AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter
•Game Mode
•3 HDMI Inputs
•100,000 Hour Panel Life


QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Mar 26 2009, 02:35 PM)
lolz how about that gamenoob?just got off the phone with mr.liang from legend ss2, will reach in 2 weeks time, they're selling at the price of pv80, which is 3.2k rclxm9.gif
looks like those who bought pv80 recently must be kicking themselves deep inside now,hehehehehe
so gamenoob,4.5k for new models?at this economic slump?looks like ur the fool now isn't it,luckily panasonic isn't ... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(andyz @ Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM)
why can't i find any plasma model info on the pv42x10..

is it this model http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electro...000000000005702


TC-P42X1
NEW! 42" Class (41.6" Diagonal) VIERA® X1 Series Plasma 720p HDTV with 600Hz Sub-field Drive for crisp, focused images, VIERA Image Viewer® for easy photo sharing, and VIERA Link® to control all compatible devices with a single remote

•720p Resolution
•Contrast Ratio: 30,000:1 Native; Infinite Black Panel
•720 Lines of Moving Picture Resolution
•600Hz Sub-field Drive
•VIERA Image Viewer™
•VIERA Link™
•AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter
•Game Mode
•3 HDMI Inputs
•100,000 Hour Panel Life
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http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/7775

There you go.
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tks...

but why is the Number of Pixels still 786,432 (1024x768) picels.. isn't it a 720p panel...

the 50" is confirm 720p


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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Mar 26 2009, 02:35 PM)
lolz how about that gamenoob?just got off the phone with mr.liang from legend ss2, will reach in 2 weeks time, they're selling at the price of pv80, which is 3.2k rclxm9.gif
looks like those who bought pv80 recently must be kicking themselves deep inside now,hehehehehe
so gamenoob,4.5k for new models?at this economic slump?looks like ur the fool now isn't it,luckily panasonic isn't ... tongue.gif
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Just to indulge you a bit more since your ADD disorder is acting up..poor little boku-chan! The 42PV80 was being sold above 4k when its launched.

For people who bought PV80 recently I'm sure they know very well the PV80 is being replace soon. For the price offer it met their needs, nothing to look like a fool. Even if the PV42X10 launched at 3.7K now, its expected. The PV80 was hovering close to 4k for most part of 2008. Market slowing down and production efficieny improve, it should come down.

You should look at the PV80 predecessors... it cost even more than PV80 when its launched.

Since you are so resourceful and not having any real life, did you find out how many yrs warranty the 42X10 have?

BTW, I bought my PV80 at 2.8k...can your mr liang sell it for 2.8K? Also I got an offer for 50PV80 for 5k, if your mr liang can offer the same, pls let me know as well. My buddy want one.

Can you be useful on the next post?

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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Mar 26 2009, 06:35 PM)
Just to indulge you a bit more since your ADD disorder is acting up..poor little boku-chan! The 42PV80 was being sold above 4k when its launched.

For people who bought PV80 recently I'm sure they know very well the PV80 is being replace soon. For the price offer it met their needs, nothing to look like a fool. Even if the PV42X10 launched at 3.7K now, its expected. The PV80 was hovering close to 4k for most part of 2008. Market slowing down and production efficieny improve, it should come down.

You should look at the PV80 predecessors... it cost even more than PV80 when its launched.

Since you are so resourceful and not having any real life, did you find out how many yrs warranty the 42X10 have?

BTW, I bought my PV80 at 2.8k...can your mr liang sell it for 2.8K? Also I got an offer for 50PV80 for 5k, if your mr liang can offer the same, pls let me know as well. My buddy want one.

Can you be useful on the next post?
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I agree. PV80 is very good already and you got it at a great price. Price is very important. If one works hard for their money, price would matter as much as quality.

I looked at the new model today. It looked the samelah as the PV80. No difference lah, despite all the specs being higer ie contract ratio etc etc.

So, don't worry. You got a great deal. Its like a BMW, old BMW and new BMW, both also give you great performace and handling.
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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Mar 26 2009, 06:41 PM)
I agree. PV80 is very good already and you got it at a great price. Price is very important. If one works hard for their money, price would matter as much as quality.

I looked at the new model today. It looked the samelah as the PV80. No difference lah, despite all the specs being higer ie contract ratio etc etc.

So, don't worry. You got a great deal. Its like a BMW, old BMW and new BMW, both also give you great performace and handling.
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Great Point. Back 2 basics is your budget, budget, budget. Why should i spend more than what i could afford.

I would be happy, just to get what i always wanted, and have an extra money for something else.

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Next purchase will be WD HDMI TV box and another 500gb mini HDD for copying and download.

Although I have a vintage Technic 18years old 5.1 Receiver, I doubt I ever want to set it up. But I may just buy a small PC 3ch satellite speaker that can fit into my TV bench!
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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Mar 25 2009, 12:22 PM)
lolz of course current owners of pv80 will say this, defending their purchase.really nub:x everybody is waiting for the 2009 model, improved PQ and it will be the same price as discussed in lcd tv thread.why get old model when you can have new?that's why this thread is not active all,face the fact pv80 is going to obsolute.
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nub = newbie? are you saying owners of pv80 are noobies?

first of all, many people are anxiously waiting for the 2009 model, and many of them have seen the spec of the so called pv8/80 replacement. The fact is that the new model is not necessarily better than the outgoing model, only minor spec advantage. Still the same resolution. First of all, it is not out yet, so no reviews are available at the moment - we don't know how much the PQ has improved. Secondly, the panel is still have the same resolution. Thirdly, why get old model when can have new? - because they have to wait for the new model to come out!

it is either buy now if you need it or wait forever. you wait for the new model.. when it comes out price is high.. wait for price to come down.. in the next couple of weeks people said the price is going down.. wait some more.. a few months later ppl said can get Full HD for the same price.. wait some more.. then comes year 2010.. new models introduced. wait some more.. wait, wait and wait.

yes, pv80 is going to be obselete. any model also going to be obsolete.

if the pv80's replacement is going to be a Full HD, and can be had for the same price, then the wait is worthwhile and the purchase is justifiable.
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Mar 27 2009, 08:52 AM)
nub = newbie? are you saying owners of pv80 are noobies?

first of all, many people are anxiously waiting for the 2009 model, and many of them have seen the spec of the so called pv8/80 replacement. The fact is that the new model is not necessarily better than the outgoing model, only minor spec advantage. Still the same resolution. First of all, it is not out yet, so no reviews are available at the moment - we don't know how much the PQ has improved. Secondly, the panel is still have the same resolution. Thirdly, why get old model when can have new? - because they have to wait for the new model to come out!

it is either buy now if you need it or wait forever. you wait for the new model.. when it comes out price is high.. wait for price to come down.. in the next couple of weeks people said the price is going down.. wait some more.. a few months later ppl said can get Full HD for the same price.. wait some more.. then comes year 2010.. new models introduced. wait some more.. wait, wait and wait.

yes, pv80 is going to be obselete. any model also going to be obsolete.

if the pv80's replacement is going to be a Full HD, and can be had for the same price, then the wait is worthwhile and the purchase is justifiable.
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agree with you. If you need something now, you have to buy it now. For example, someone saying, I won't take medical treatment now despite being very ill because next year, got new Mat Salleh doctor coming to the hospital and he can heal me better.

Or better still, say lah, I won't eat today, because government promise rice would be cheaper next month, so next month I will start to eat.
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To digress a bit from all the talk about the Panny plasmas, can i ask if there is a 50" plasma (nvm if it's hd-ready only at 1366x768) for rm4k?

What do you think about the LG plasma compared with Panny? Is it that much worse off? Money is important to me (budget rm4k strictly) for a 50" plasma.

Hope you can give me some advice. Thanks.
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To digress a bit from all the talk about the Panny plasmas, can i ask if there is a 50" plasma (nvm if it's hd-ready only at 1366x768) for rm4k?

What do you think about the LG plasma compared with Panny? Is it that much worse off? Money is important to me (budget rm4k strictly) for a 50" plasma.

Hope you can give me some advice. Thanks.
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Got, my colleague got his pv80 50" from a seller in Klang, RM3.5k cash term.
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Hi Sony,
True kah? Can you give me the contact please. PM'd you liao.
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Hi Sony,
True kah? Can you give me the contact please. PM'd you liao.
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He's bullshitting. PV80 50" at 3.5k? Display set la maybe tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 27 2009, 11:39 AM)
He's bullshitting. PV80 50" at 3.5k? Display set la maybe tongue.gif
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ya lah. Where got PV80 50" at 3.5k?


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To digress a bit from all the talk about the Panny plasmas, can i ask if there is a 50" plasma (nvm if it's hd-ready only at 1366x768) for rm4k?

What do you think about the LG plasma compared with Panny? Is it that much worse off? Money is important to me (budget rm4k strictly) for a 50" plasma.

Hope you can give me some advice. Thanks.
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No 50 inch for 4K. Cheapest is abt RM5500.

LG cannot be compared to Panasonic lah.

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My eyes are not that good (old man liao) so i cannot really see much difference, but i do want to have a big 50" feel plasma at home for my hd movies (720p good enough for me). How cheap can I get a LG 50" plasma?
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Hei Sony

We waiting for your special dealer la! Pls let us know who and where 50PV80 for 3.5K.
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gamenoob = magna?
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RX330,

Huh?
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Hei Sony

We waiting for your special dealer la! Pls let us know who and where 50PV80 for 3.5K.
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I also want to buy.
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nah, i tot u a fren of mine, cos he gotten at 2.8k as well
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nah, i tot u a fren of mine, cos he gotten at 2.8k as well
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Saw the new 42x10 at Sunway today, while its cheaper than 42PV80 when its was launched, its expected with technology improvement and production efficiency not to mentioned slow econ time.

Notable upgrade is the native contrast from 15000 to 30000, which should improved some visual clarity but you may not be detecting it that much. So if Harvey/SH/Court is still selling PV80 at 3.5 to 3.7k, that is not going to cut it.

So expect some further cut on PV80 from this big retailer soon or get one from neighborhood shop. 3.2k or even 3.1k should be doable.

Only 1 problem with 42X10, the border frame is more roundish and seem to be more reflective and this may be annoying when you get reflection on the border while enjoying the show unless you dim your light... not an option in day time unless you have dedicated AV room....
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the new model that replace pv80
still in 104x768?720p?
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do u all think the older model 50 inchie will come down the price?

is 50 inchie too big for astro in a kambing kandar living hall? sad.gif
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do u all think the older model 50 inchie will come down the price?

is 50 inchie too big for astro in a kambing kandar living hall? sad.gif
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the new model that replace pv80
still in 104x768?720p?
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TO be honest, I also don't know how it can be claimed 720p with that resolution. It is not fair to the consumer as it is not really 720p
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TO be honest, I also don't know how it can be claimed 720p with that resolution. It is not fair to the consumer as it is not really 720p
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The two HDTV resolutions are 1280x720 and 1920x1080.

First, manufacturers use the term "720p display" in their marketing literature loosely and incorrectly. These days, they tend to use it for anything that isn't a "1080p display". So let's put that one to rest first.

The native resolution of a 1366x768 panel is not 720p. If anything, it is 768p, since all input is scaled to the 768 lines. But, of course, 768p is not a resolution that is used in the source material. Only 720p and 1080i/p are used. We should count 480i/p also, for SD material and DVDs.

In the case of plasma, it is fiendishly difficult to make plasma panels with small pixels. This is why 1080p plasmas are so long in coming and why 42 inch plasma panels are 1024x768.

How can 1024x768 be HD, you ask. Many dozens of people have asked that over and over here in the forum. The answer is, the Consumer Electronics Association has decided that any display with at least 720 lines can be called an HDTV and have the logo. There is some basis in fact for this because the human eye is more sensitive to vertical resolution than to horizontal resolution. This has been taken advantage of for years in NTSC because the horizontal resolution of NTSC is really poor. It is also taken advantage of in so-called HD-lite where the video is resampled to 1440x1080 on things like satellite, or maybe even shot with a 1440x1080 camera instead of the 1920x1080 camera you thought the network was using, and you probably didn't even notice.

We have had intense wars about whether that CEA definition is legitimate. Believe what you will, and if you don't think 1024x768 is HD, buy something else. Vote with your wallet. Simple as that.

In the case of LCD, it is difficult to make large pixels. This is one reason why 1366x768 has been used. Also, please do not forget that a lot of HD is in 1080i, so 1920x1080 has to be downscaled to 1366x768. Conversely, 1280x720 has to be upscaled to 1366x768.

To those who say, but wouldn't it be a good idea if the panel were 1280x720 so at least one of the resolutions wouldn't have to be scaled, I say nope! For one thing, you'd be downscaling 1920x1080 all the way down to 1280x720, so you'd lose a lot of resolution on the very format that is supposed to be giving you lots of detail, which is also what most channels broadcast in. For another thing, the extra resolution is really helpful on things like diagonal lines, where you can smooth out the line. If you were in 1280x720 on a 32 or 37 inch display, you'd probably be complaining that the display looks all blocky and pixelated because the pixels are just too big and the diagonal lines have too much stairstepping.

Turns out you can get 1280x720, but you have to go all the way down to 22 and 23 inches, where it works nicely.

Oh, and one other thing that comes up over and over again. The resolution of 1080i is not "540p", it is 1920x1080, dang it. If you were to shoot a still life, you would have 1920x1080 worth of pixels. It's simply that you have to wait 1/30 second rather than 1/60 second to get all the pixels. If it's a live shot. If it's film, it was shot at a mere 24 frames per second, so (inverse telecine, 3:2 pulldown, which is actually reverse 3:2 pulldown) done correctly gives you back your movie.


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great article. Thanks. I am happy with 1024x768 plasma again!
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QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Mar 29 2009, 11:25 AM)
great article. Thanks. I am happy with 1024x768 plasma again!
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LOL. No problem man. I rather have a 1024x768 plasma than a 1366x768 LCD anytime.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Mar 29 2009, 11:28 AM)
LOL. No problem man. I rather have a 1024x768 plasma than a 1366x768 LCD anytime.
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Then, life goes back to the 70s where we used to adjust the aerial on top of the tv for better reception and PQ.
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get on of those china decoders and giant satelite disc, say bye bye to astro medicore quality and signal lost during rain hahaha..

but limited channel though
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QUOTE(Hwoarang45 @ Mar 29 2009, 12:24 PM)
get on of those china decoders and giant satelite disc, say bye bye to astro medicore quality and signal lost during rain hahaha..

but limited channel though
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You're aware that is illegal right?
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today's world, not worth doing illegal things lah. Got so much tv and movies on the internet, what for you want dish?
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today's world, not worth doing illegal things lah. Got so much tv and movies on the internet, what for you want dish?
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do you think when you download the movie from internet is all legal?
think again..
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do you think when you download the movie from internet is all legal?
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jz saw at sunway pyramid sunday
42pv80 sell as rm2999 free redang accomodation+nike jersey+cable's

and also the new 42x tat replace 42pv80 sell as rm3699 with same free items

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free redang accomodation+nike jersey+cable's????????

whao lots of freebies at such a bargain price too... amazing
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QUOTE(stupid @ Mar 30 2009, 01:14 AM)
jz saw at sunway pyramid sunday
42pv80 sell as rm2999 free redang accomodation+nike jersey+cable's

and also the new 42x tat replace 42pv80 sell as rm3699 with same free items
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That is one heck of a deal for the PV80 and X10. I sure hope my buddy has dropped by that roadshow!

I wonder what is the 50in PV80 sold for....
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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Mar 30 2009, 07:51 AM)
That is one heck of a deal for the PV80 and X10. I sure hope my buddy has dropped by that roadshow!

I wonder what is the 50in PV80 sold for....
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tempting!!! so at a glance any comment abt the pq between the two?


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Got, my colleague got his pv80 50" from a seller in Klang, RM3.5k cash term.
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bro u sure or not... he bought DIY version izt.. have to build the whole thing on his own smile.gif .. or izt pensonic

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Maybe he bought IKEA version, parts are given in pieces together with an allan-key.
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My friend owns it, its quite good, I am soon gonna get one for myself.
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Maybe he bought IKEA version, parts are given in pieces together with an allan-key.
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....somemore they include U-HU glue.
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Am hoping more will provide input on the X10, as am looking to get one when it gets into town in two weeks.
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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Mar 30 2009, 07:51 AM)
That is one heck of a deal for the PV80 and X10. I sure hope my buddy has dropped by that roadshow!

I wonder what is the 50in PV80 sold for....
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rm5549 for 50pv80 rclxms.gif + freebies
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rm5549 for 50pv80 rclxms.gif + freebies
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no point lah. The new model is around the same price. Somemore, commontan will sell around that price.
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Honestly, if the new PX10 sells at 3699 or 3299 im still glad i got my PV80 at 2999.

There is more to invest than just the tv alone, and the RM300 - RM700 extra money i find it very useful to put on side purchases.

For instance:

Monster Cable: RM130
Extra Household Items Insurance (cover lightning+theft) = RM150
altogether already RM280.
then, i can also think of
New HDMI DVD Player perhaps? RM 300
New PS2 /PS3? RM1599
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you make a right choice to get pv80
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judging by the price of the new panny, i dun think the pv80 is worth at 3k
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 3 2009, 11:59 AM)
judging by the price of the new panny, i dun think the pv80 is worth at 3k
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Yes, not much difference between the two now. Once commontan or Legend sells it, it would be more or less same price as the old model.
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Yep,new Panny x10 prices are cheaper compare to pv80 but why cheaper as newly launch.It suppose to be expensive at newly model but turns up cheap.Do anyone know why new panny x10 cheap ?
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improved production cycle, technology cost improvement etc etc... all contribute to lower pricing. just like PC and storage price... dropping very frequently!
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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Apr 5 2009, 01:23 PM)
improved production cycle, technology cost improvement etc etc... all contribute to lower pricing. just like PC and storage price... dropping very frequently!
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Nope that is not the answer.
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Nope that is not the answer.
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If you know the answer, why on earth are you asking the question in the first place?
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I want a 50pv80. Where can I get one for RM5k?
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Apr 5 2009, 06:00 PM)
If you know the answer, why on earth are you asking the question in the first place?
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you may filter out 1st why does the new model cheap ? in fact,the latest model are quite expensive in the 1st place than later on there are going for a promotion as prices drop.tats why i wanted to know why it was chaeper during launching newer model compare to previous model.remember,good item doesn't come with cheap pricing.i just wanna aware abt it.
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QUOTE(choontoy @ Apr 5 2009, 09:36 PM)
you may filter out 1st why does the new model cheap ? in fact,the latest model are quite expensive in the 1st place than later on there are going for a promotion as prices drop.tats why i wanted to know why it was chaeper during launching newer model compare to previous model.remember,good item doesn't come with cheap pricing.i just wanna aware abt it.
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You are a funny guy, you ask a question, people answer you, obviously that's one of the possible answers. And you say that's not correct? How do you know that is not correct? Do you have the correct answer? You will only know that's not correct if you know the correct answer. If you know the correct answer, why ask the question?
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QUOTE(xrossf1re @ Apr 5 2009, 10:06 PM)
You are a funny guy, you ask a question, people answer you, obviously that's one of the possible answers. And you say that's not correct? How do you know that is not correct? Do you have the correct answer? You will only know that's not correct if you know the correct answer. If you know the correct answer, why ask the question?
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maybe i'm wrong to ask question or perhaps i wrote wrongly.TQ for awareness me.
Sori for what i had written wrongly and tat is my mistake.
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really a choontoy biggrin.gif
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Just get my TH-42PV80H FOR RM2999.

And i am happy with it.

TV 1, 2, 3, 7 and 8 is acceptable. ( no astro )

Test with dvd matrix reloaded satisfied ( Ori )

Test with dvd resident evil ok ok lo. ( P )

Test with PS 1 with Ridge racer. ( U all say leh @@)

haha

will connect to laptop later and set up a pc for it soon.

Is that TV box see~ing from post from few forums that fit to the plasma ?

need to do some review on that. ^^
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QUOTE(nicklim17 @ Apr 6 2009, 07:43 PM)
Just get my TH-42PV80H FOR RM2999.

And i am happy with it.

TV 1, 2, 3, 7 and 8 is acceptable. ( no astro )

Test with dvd matrix reloaded satisfied ( Ori )

Test with dvd resident evil ok ok lo. ( P )

Test with PS 1 with Ridge racer. ( U all say leh @@)

haha

will connect to laptop later and set up a pc for it soon.

Is that TV box see~ing from post from few forums that fit to the plasma ?

need to do some review on that. ^^
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why buy the old model when you can buy the new model for the same price?
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I think its not available on my area, i compare with senQ and this shop i buy from which is doing stock clearance.

Best deal i can get. ^^

The display is a lot better using the pc input ( VGA / D-sub) compare to using the s video output to av from my laptop.

fit the the plasma. will try a online game now ^^
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Mar 24 2009, 11:45 AM)
# Hold down the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV itself. Not Remote
# Press the {RECALL} button on the remote control 5 times.
# The Service Menu will be displayed.

# Use the {2} buttons to select "SRV-TOOL"
and press the {OK} button to access it.

# HIGHLIGHT the box on the right side of the last option: (Navigate by using the arrow buttons on the remote)
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PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

# Then press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for 3 seconds.

TIME = Hours and Minutes of Operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was Powered On.

# To exit, press & hold the {POWER} button on the TV for few seconds.
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I failed to check on 42PV80HM....when i press (MUTE) for 3 seconds or more, see nothing display for the time operation..... anyone can advise....help..... icon_question.gif

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anyone can help me why I cannot check on my operation hour? .....
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Apr 13 2009, 12:12 PM)
I failed to check on 42PV80HM....when i press (MUTE) for 3 seconds or more, see nothing display for the time operation..... anyone can advise....help.....  icon_question.gif
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did you sure u do it on the tv itself??
not do in remote wor
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 14 2009, 03:01 PM)
did you sure u do it on the tv itself??
not do in remote wor
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There are no MUTE button on plasma, only on remote control, am I right?

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Found that :

(1). 42PV80HM selling rm2550, is it a good buy compare to new P42X10K?

(2). 50PV80HM selling rm4300

My viewing distance is 10 feets, which size is comfortable?

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Who selling the 50PV80 for 4300?
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Jimmy

Who selling the 50PV80 for 4300?
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An electrical shop at Jalan Van Praagh in Penang.

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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Apr 20 2009, 09:41 AM)
An electrical shop at Jalan Van Praagh in Penang.
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Can you specify the shop name?
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Can you specify the shop name?
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Forget the shop name, something like Chujita. Only the electrical shop around the shop-houses with big sign board.

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50PVHM now only RM4300?....wah.....drop so fast.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Apr 20 2009, 10:17 AM)
Forget the shop name, something like Chujita. Only the electrical shop around the shop-houses with big sign board.
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Guys, I've just noticed that there's IR on my PV80. The AXN logo on the top right is permanently there oredi. Quite obvious when a light background is displayed. Damn. Anyone else experienced this?? Wonder if Panasonic will entertain this complaint or not.
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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ Apr 22 2009, 06:58 PM)
Guys, I've just noticed that there's IR on my PV80. The AXN logo on the top right is permanently there oredi. Quite obvious when a light background is displayed. Damn. Anyone else experienced this?? Wonder if Panasonic will entertain this complaint or not.
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1st thing to do would be to start viewing a movie or channel that has moving objects. Maybe for about 1-2hrs, check again. It should be gone. What are your brightness and contrast settings? Is it in vivid mode?
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My brightness is set to 50 and contrast is set to 95. Color and Sharpness is set to 60 and it's always in Standard Mode. This setting is for all my input sources e.g. Astro, Wii, WDTV, DVD, PS2 etc... Now watching Madagascar2 using WDTV and will check the IR again after the movie. I watch a lot of AXN. Hence the IR of the AXN logo. Man, this worries me.
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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ Apr 22 2009, 07:08 PM)
My brightness is set to 50 and contrast is set to 95. Color and Sharpness is set to 60 and it's always in Standard Mode. This setting is for all my input sources e.g. Astro, Wii, WDTV, DVD, PS2 etc... Now watching Madagascar2 using WDTV and will check the IR again after the movie. I watch a lot of AXN. Hence the IR of the AXN logo. Man, this worries me.
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Don't worry too much. As I said before for the 1st 100hrs of viewing vary your content. IR on the Pannys are only bad during the 100hrs or so. It will settle down after that and the panel will become more IR resistant. It shd actually be gone after some fast moving content.
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My PV80 more than 5 months old oredi and exceeded the 100hrs long ago I think. I just finished watching Madagascar 1, Madagascar 2, and now displaying the calibration jpegs i got off the net last time for almost half an hour oredi and the AXN logo is still there. Damn, starting to doubt panny's technology. I have another 50" LG plasma PC1R that my grandmother watches her WLT 24/7, no IR at all after nearly a year of usage.


Added on April 22, 2009, 11:08 pmBeen watching different sources other than astro for like 6 hours straight now, and the AXN logo IR is still obvious. This sucks. I would've thought IR is a thing of the past as claimed by Panny and the worse thing is, I have a PV80 and my brother has 1 too. Just went to check the LG again. the WLT logo IR is not as obvious as mine.


Added on April 23, 2009, 12:27 amuser posted image

The circled region shows the AXN logo IR. Try looking at the circled region at a certain angle and you can see it. It's not very clear on the photo. But on the screen it's very obvious.

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My PV80 more than 5 months old oredi and exceeded the 100hrs long ago I think. I just finished watching Madagascar 1, Madagascar 2, and now displaying the calibration jpegs i got off the net last time for almost half an hour oredi and the AXN logo is still there. Damn, starting to doubt panny's technology. I have another 50" LG plasma PC1R that my grandmother watches her WLT 24/7, no IR at all after nearly a year of usage.


Added on April 22, 2009, 11:08 pmBeen watching different sources other than astro for like 6 hours straight now, and the AXN logo IR is still obvious. This sucks. I would've thought IR is a thing of the past as claimed by Panny and the worse thing is, I have a PV80 and my brother has 1 too. Just went to check the LG again. the WLT logo IR is not as obvious as mine.


Added on April 23, 2009, 12:27 amuser posted image

The circled region shows the AXN logo IR. Try looking at the circled region at a certain angle and you can see it. It's not very clear on the photo. But on the screen it's very obvious.
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If it is permanent, then its burn in. My only suggestion for now would be to stay away from AXN for a while. It will reduce. Has the intensity reduced. Is it visible when viewing normal content, or when u are looking at it very near? Is the pixel shifter switched on for your plasma?
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It has reduced slightly only, very subtle changes. I am now watching AXN in Zoom1 mode whereby the AXN logo is not visible on the screen. It's quite obvious when there's a background of light colors e.g. blue sky or explosions. Normal viewing if you dont pay attention to that particular region, then you won't notice it. I think the pixel shifter is turned on by default in this model. Damn, I seriously thought that image burn-in was a thing of the past when the launched the pv80. Kinda regret getting a plasma now. Should I call panny and bring up this issue?? But it is stated in the user manual that the warranty does not cover IR issues. False marketing gimmick I guess.


Added on April 23, 2009, 10:35 amAnd to those who watch channels with logos that have sharp white wordings, beware!! IR is still a big issue even for new model plasmas.

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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ Apr 23 2009, 10:34 AM)
It has reduced slightly only, very subtle changes. I am now watching AXN in Zoom1 mode whereby the AXN logo is not visible on the screen. It's quite obvious when there's a background of light colors e.g. blue sky or explosions. Normal viewing if you dont pay attention to that particular region, then you won't notice it. I think the pixel shifter is turned on by default in this model. Damn, I seriously thought that image burn-in was a thing of the past when the launched the pv80. Kinda regret getting a plasma now. Should I call panny and bring up this issue?? But it is stated in the user manual that the warranty does not cover IR issues. False marketing gimmick I guess.


Added on April 23, 2009, 10:35 amAnd to those who watch channels with logos that have sharp white wordings, beware!! IR is still a big issue even for new model plasmas.
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If it is reducing then it might wear off. I do not use the Panny plasmas but another brand, my kids watch the cartoon channels all the time but there is no image retention or burn in that I can see. Panny will not cover it, watch other channels and see if it wears off. The other thing is to use a screen washer, some plasmas have it in built, else google it. It is basically a sweeping high contrast white image that "washes" the screen and reduces and removes image retention. I think it was jfix or something. Check there are some around that you can burn into a dvd and play it continuously to remove unwanted effects.

LG screens are actually more prone to IR, you might just be unlucky with the Panny.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 23 2009, 10:52 AM)
If it is reducing then it might wear off. I do not use the Panny plasmas but another brand, my kids watch the cartoon channels all the time but there is no image retention or burn in that I can see. Panny will not cover it, watch other channels and see if it wears off. The other thing is to use a screen washer, some plasmas have it in built, else google it. It is basically a sweeping high contrast white image that "washes" the screen and reduces and removes image retention. I think it was jfix or something. Check there are some around that you can burn into a dvd and play it continuously to remove unwanted effects.

LG screens are actually more prone to IR, you might just be unlucky with the Panny.
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Thanks for the advice. Cartoon channels logos generally don't have the bright white contract wordings like the AXN channel but are kinda like watermarks I guess. I'll look up the screen washer and probably view nothing but mkvs these few days to see whether will it be removed or not. Guess this will be my last purchase of a plasma tv.
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My brightness is set to 50 and contrast is set to 95. Color and Sharpness is set to 60 and it's always in Standard Mode. This setting is for all my input sources e.g. Astro, Wii, WDTV, DVD, PS2 etc... Now watching Madagascar2 using WDTV and will check the IR again after the movie. I watch a lot of AXN. Hence the IR of the AXN logo. Man, this worries me.
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I think ur contrast is set to high. maybe that's the reason for the IR. I read that most setting need to be lowered during the break in period.

Btw, This are the setting that i used from day 1-> Break-in ->now..

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I think ur contrast is set to high. maybe that's the reason for the IR. I read that most setting need to be lowered during the break in period.

Btw, This are the setting that i used from day 1-> Break-in ->now..

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I showed the Panasonic Service guy my settings too, and he said it does not affect anything to contribute to the IR. And my plasma is more than 4 months old oredi. Broke the 100 hours long time ago. I also used the images downloaded from the net to run the break-in process.
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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ Apr 23 2009, 10:34 AM)
It has reduced slightly only, very subtle changes. I am now watching AXN in Zoom1 mode whereby the AXN logo is not visible on the screen. It's quite obvious when there's a background of light colors e.g. blue sky or explosions. Normal viewing if you dont pay attention to that particular region, then you won't notice it. I think the pixel shifter is turned on by default in this model. Damn, I seriously thought that image burn-in was a thing of the past when the launched the pv80. Kinda regret getting a plasma now. Should I call panny and bring up this issue?? But it is stated in the user manual that the warranty does not cover IR issues. False marketing gimmick I guess.


Added on April 23, 2009, 10:35 amAnd to those who watch channels with logos that have sharp white wordings, beware!! IR is still a big issue even for new model plasmas.
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Well, why not to be relax to enjoy your show instead of 'pay attention to the particular region' then you won't notice it. tongue.gif

Sounds like you are a bit regret of getting Plasma due to the current issue. But I think you will definitely regret if you get LCD because of the ghosting issue almost all the fast scenes, and colour wash out when watching low bitrate SD source (eg. Astro). laugh.gif

IR issue happen very rare now and you are one of the unlucky guy. I've PV80 for 8+ months, my wife see lots of HK drama, sometimes with letterbox. I was so worry too everytime she switch off TV after watching for hours, I saw black bar on Top & Bottom. But everytime switch to FullScreen show for few minutes, the IR always gone.
My sister got PV60 for 2+ years and they watch Astro a lot, but still no IR issue. So what can I say.

Anyway, I think your issue might cause by the 1st 100 hours that you watch AXN a lot and without swtich to other channels, even though you watched 3-4 hours only but switch off immediately and on the same channel again the next day (and everyday).
(Although some people said we don't need 100 hours break-in time for new model already)

Well, just relax, maybe your IR will be slowly gone.

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QUOTE(YiQi @ Apr 24 2009, 10:02 AM)
Well, why not to be relax to enjoy your show instead of 'pay attention to the particular region' then you won't notice it.  tongue.gif

Sounds like you are a bit regret of getting Plasma due to the current issue. But I think you will definitely regret if you get LCD because of the ghosting issue almost all the fast scenes, and colour wash out when watching low bitrate SD source (eg. Astro).  laugh.gif

IR issue happen very rare now and you are one of the unlucky guy. I've PV80 for 8+ months, my wife see lots of HK drama, sometimes with letterbox. I was so worry too everytime she switch off TV after watching for hours, I saw black bar on Top & Bottom. But everytime switch to FullScreen show for few minutes, the IR always gone.
My sister got PV60 for 2+ years and they watch Astro a lot, but still no IR issue. So what can I say.

Anyway, I think your issue might cause by the 1st 100 hours that you watch AXN a lot and without swtich to other channels, even though you watched 3-4 hours only but switch off immediately and on the same channel again the next day (and everyday).
(Although some people said we don't need 100 hours break-in time for new model already)

Well, just relax, maybe your IR will be slowly gone.
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Yeah, practicing that now. Trying to ignore that region. My uncle has a 52" Samsung A650 and I go over there to play PS3 a lot with my cousin and it's gorgeous when displaying PS3 games. But HD movies without tweaking and Astro on it is super disappointing. Plasma to me is always superb for movies, hence 3 units of plasma purchased for my household (LG 50PC1R and 2 units 42pv80). FYI, my first 100+ hours were more towards Super Mario Galaxy on the Wii. And I did the break-in procedure for more than 100hours too everynight when I go to sleep that I'll leave the tv on with the break-in images running. Therefore, I don't think my watching style has anything to do with it. Yes, I do watch AXN a lot. But in my daily usage, AXN is maybe like 4-5 hours max with channel switching in between then it will be followed by either mkvs or gaming on Wii or PS2. So, I don't really regret my purchase but just disappointed with Panny's tech when they claim that the risk of IR for their newer models are very low but I still got it anyway.

Also, black bars and grey bars will not introduce higher risk of getting IR as compared to bright white sharp static images. My wife watches heaps of HK drama jack sparrow DVDs on it during the weekend in 4:3 aspect ratio and the grey pillar boxes do not create any IR at all. AXN logo is bright white, hence the permanent IR.

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# Hold down the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV itself. Not Remote
# Press the {RECALL} button on the remote control 5 times.
# The Service Menu will be displayed.

# Use the {2} buttons to select "SRV-TOOL"
and press the {OK} button to access it.

# HIGHLIGHT the box on the right side of the last option: (Navigate by using the arrow buttons on the remote)
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PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

# Then press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for 3 seconds.

TIME = Hours and Minutes of Operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was Powered On.

# To exit, press & hold the {POWER} button on the TV for few seconds.
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I failed to check on 42PV80HM....when i press (MUTE) for 3 seconds or more, see nothing display for the time operation..... anyone can advise....help..... icon_question.gif

.....help...help...
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I failed to check on 42PV80HM....when i press (MUTE) for 3 seconds or more, see nothing display for the time operation..... anyone can advise....help.....  icon_question.gif 

.....help...help...
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So did you manage to get into the service menu and are unable to see the operation hours when u press mute?
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So did you manage to get into the service menu and are unable to see the operation hours when u press mute?
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i able to get into the service menu...just when press MUTE on remote control....see nothing....no any response on tv.....no showing any operation time counter.... any idea?

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how come all talk about pv80 series. i had a px80 issit an older version? i bought it back in january this year...
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i able to get into the service menu...just when press MUTE on remote control....see nothing....no any response on tv.....no showing any operation time counter.... any idea?
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Did you select SRV-Tool 1st? You need to use the arrow keys to go down to SRV-tool 1st. If you have reached until this step and mute does not work, let me know.

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I failed to check on 42PV80HM....when i press (MUTE) for 3 seconds or more, see nothing display for the time operation..... anyone can advise....help.....  icon_question.gif 

.....help...help...
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I guess u highlight at the wrong place

look back here
PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

If u look carefully actually u have to move the cursor down to PTCT and move to right which is adjacent to PTCT

Hope this will help you smile.gif
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My model is TH-50PX80A. Older model ar??? i mean older than PV?
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I guess u highlight at the wrong place

look back here
PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

If u look carefully actually u have to move the cursor down to PTCT and move to right which is adjacent to PTCT

Hope this will help you  smile.gif
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Try this, it should work.


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My model is TH-50PX80A. Older model ar??? i mean older than PV?
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This model is for I believe UK specs. The asian specs are normally PV80. Where did u buy it from? UK or EU region?

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ohhh so sama saje la? i bought it in oz. thx for the info.
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QUOTE(clautee @ Apr 28 2009, 11:45 AM)
I guess u highlight at the wrong place

look back here
PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 HIGHLIGHT HERE

If u look carefully actually u have to move the cursor down to PTCT and move to right which is adjacent to PTCT

Hope this will help you  smile.gif
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oh...i guess i already highlight the PTCT.....hmm..... hmm.gif .... ok tonight go back retry again.... thx for your tips.....
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oh...i guess i already highlight the PTCT.....hmm..... hmm.gif  .... ok tonight go back retry again.... thx for your tips.....
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dun highlight the PTCT, highlight the blank column adjacent to it
it should works
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PV80 still available for sale in the market?
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got i saw at cineleisure 50inch selling 7999? so expensive..
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Huhuhuhu extinct product selling for 7999? doh.gif
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ya loh maybe 4k more resonable...
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It's a PY800 izzit?
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but in garage ppl selling ard rm5.5k...
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What the best deal for Plasma 42", my target is,.. .

PANASONIC 42" Plasma TH-42PV80HM = Rm2800
PANASONIC 42" Plasma TH-42X10K = Rm2880
LG PQ30 = Rm2750

Thk,.. biggrin.gif
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LG is 42inch as well? i say u shuld get 50inch .. really big diff the 8inches. if not later u will regret. price are cheap now. anything above 50 is too expensive d...
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QUOTE(bezikus @ Apr 29 2009, 01:26 PM)
What the best deal for Plasma 42", my target is,.. .

PANASONIC 42" Plasma TH-42PV80HM = Rm2800
PANASONIC 42" Plasma TH-42X10K    = Rm2880
LG PQ30                                            = Rm2750

Thk,..  biggrin.gif
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Are you sure that LG model is PQ30? not PG30? coz PQ series is LG latest series. Haven't seen PQ series yet in KL
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QUOTE(aiz1j @ Apr 29 2009, 05:24 PM)
Are you sure that LG model is PQ30? not PG30? coz PQ series is LG latest series. Haven't seen PQ series yet in KL
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i'm sure,.. new plasma series from LG for 2009,i see the label at the back show 'PQ30'.. biggrin.gif
P42PV80HM or P42X10K which wnt better? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(bezikus @ Apr 29 2009, 10:23 PM)
i'm sure,.. new plasma series from LG for 2009,i see the label at the back show 'PQ30'..  biggrin.gif
P42PV80HM or P42X10K which wnt better? hmm.gif
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Depends on your defination of better. Contrast ratio, black levels, colour decoder, grayscale - PX10
AR filter (Anti reflective) - PV80H
Gamma - both same (this is something they need to address in next years model)
Price - both similar now

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QUOTE(bezikus @ Apr 29 2009, 10:23 PM)
i'm sure,.. new plasma series from LG for 2009,i see the label at the back show 'PQ30'..  biggrin.gif
P42PV80HM or P42X10K which wnt better? hmm.gif
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I just saw 42PQ70 (HD Ready w bluetooth) at Bestd OU. suggested price 4099. 50PG70FR (fullHD) at 8xxx.
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Nope. I'll wait til thursday and if they never call me, then I'll call them to follow up.
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so what did they say??
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PV80 still available for sale in the market?
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Yes,in Penang there are few shop still available the stock for PV-80 and PY-800.FYI,PY-800 prices drop again as wanna clear out.I was intend to get PY-800 as was veri impress with it,however i had oredi get my PV-80 last year.
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Yes,in Penang there are few shop still available the stock for PV-80 and PY-800.FYI,PY-800 prices drop again as wanna clear out.I was intend to get PY-800 as was veri impress with it,however i had oredi get my PV-80 last year.
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Bro,
Let me know if u r getting the PY800, can calibrate.... BTW how much is it for the 50in?
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so what did they say??
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Called them up last week, and they told me that they've yet to get a feedback from Japan. Therefore, I'll have to wait til they get a response from Japan and they'll contact me to deliver the verdict.
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hi guys,

i'm newbie in lowyat.net.

i just want to share some interesting issue for PV80 owner. for those who just purchase or purchase last year.

i don't know whether your unit can observe scretches all around inside the display panel at pixel panel surface. but mine can see very clear.

under power off condition and your room condition must be bright enough then you will see scratches or use flash light (must observe at angle about 45 degree and scratch size is about 10mm to 20mm long and width is about our hair size).

fyi. panasonic already replace 1st unit for me but still can observe scretches all around inside the display panel at pixel panel surface. now waiting for 2nd unit for replacement.

have fun guys. icon_idea.gif
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scratch is covered with warranty too? what is the price now? my place got shops purging this model, nice set i must say
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Bro,
Let me know if u r getting the PY800, can calibrate.... BTW how much is it for the 50in?
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QUOTE(mannesmann @ May 5 2009, 06:01 PM)
hi guys,

i'm newbie in lowyat.net.

i just want to share some interesting issue for PV80 owner. for those who just purchase or purchase last year.

i don't know whether your unit can observe scretches all around inside the display panel at pixel panel surface. but mine can see very clear.

under power off condition and your room condition must be bright enough then you will see scratches or use flash light (must observe at angle about 45 degree and scratch size is about 10mm to 20mm long and width is about our hair size).

fyi. panasonic already replace 1st unit for me but still can observe scretches all around inside the display panel at pixel panel surface. now waiting for 2nd unit for replacement.

have fun guys.  icon_idea.gif
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bro, maybe can post a pic for clearer understanding ehh...
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scratch is covered with warranty too?  what is the price now?  my place got shops purging this model, nice set i must say
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yes. that's why they give us 5 years warranty. the warranty cover for inside panel acc. and all printed circuit board. if is outside sorry for you they will not give any warranty for this and you need to pay $$$$$. nod.gif

i think price now is about RM2500 to RM2800.


QUOTE(ic-klass @ May 6 2009, 01:31 AM)
bro, maybe can post a pic for clearer understanding  ehh...
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sorry bro, can't snap picture for your reference, due to reflection on the screen. sad.gif mayb the attachment file will help u.

the outside panel is green colour that one is protection layer screen and inside protection layer screen u be able to see small square all around the screen that one is pixel panel screen surface. scratch is at the pixel panel screen surface. your room is bright u be able to see the scratch in black colour like our hair size (10mm to 20mm long an width is about hair size) and if use flash light to observe the colour is white or light grey. mayb u also can use magnifying glass to see the scratches. need to be observe at about 30 to 45 degree.

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Agreed with Mannesmann,
You will only able to watch near closely at the panel screen to view those scratches as i had also seen it b4.My goodness,i was almost fainted when i had seen it. doh.gif
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Hi guys, update on my PV80 IR issue.

Panasonic called me up and told me that they will exchange my PV80 with the latest X10 one-to-one and retain my 5 year warranty. This is better than superb service from them. I'm extremely happy with Panasonic.

However, I still love the pv80. Dunno whether should I just keep the pv80. Any users have compared the x10 and pv80 side by side and saw any significant improvement over the older model?? Opinions are most appreciated.
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That is some really excellent service. Two thumbs up for Panasonic. smile.gif
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Hi guys, update on my PV80 IR issue.

Panasonic called me up and told me that they will exchange my PV80 with the latest X10 one-to-one and retain my 5 year warranty. This is better than superb service from them. I'm extremely happy with Panasonic.

However, I still love the pv80. Dunno whether should I just keep the pv80. Any users have compared the x10 and pv80 side by side and saw any significant improvement over the older model?? Opinions are most appreciated.
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all in all i think x10 is much better than pv80. x10 colour is more vibrant (wet looking), higher contrast, higher subfield drive, x.v colour, can play av thru sd slot, and bla..bla..
The only setback/s - because they use new filter (to enhance the colour reproduction) the GLARE is significant to some.

p/s (again): can show us how the scratch look like - may be i can claimed one also thumbup.gif
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all in all i think x10 is much better than pv80. x10 colour is more vibrant (wet looking), higher contrast, higher subfield drive, x.v colour, can play av thru sd slot, and bla..bla..
The only setback/s - because they use new filter (to enhance the colour reproduction) the GLARE is significant to some.

p/s (again): can show us how the scratch look like - may be i can claimed one also  thumbup.gif
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I went to check out the x10 in Queensbay Mall just now. They were playing some XBOX trailers on it. I dunno whether is it just me, but the screen seems to flicker. The unit was placed next to a PY800 and the PY800 looked very smooth. And the x10 only has 1 component in while I need 2. This is making me skeptical whether to trade my pv80 for the x10. Sigh. Dilemma pula now.
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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ May 12 2009, 08:10 PM)
I went to check out the x10 in Queensbay Mall just now. They were playing some XBOX trailers on it. I dunno whether is it just me, but the screen seems to flicker. The unit was placed next to a PY800 and the PY800 looked very smooth. And the x10 only has 1 component in while I need 2. This is making me skeptical whether to trade my pv80 for the x10. Sigh. Dilemma pula now.
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The X10 and PV80 will both have some problems with 24p content. There is no known problems with flicker on both. Could be a cable thing....The issue of not enuf inputs for your needs is the main concern.
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The X10 and PV80 will both have some problems with 24p content. There is no known problems with flicker on both. Could be a cable thing....The issue of not enuf inputs for your needs is the main concern.
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Is it?? Ok ok. Coz i'm watching some animation on my pv80 now. The flicker is not obvious. Maybe I should try and bring my WDTV to Queensbay to test it with the x10. As for my lack of component input problem, worst case scenario have to get a component splitter box. Gotta start looking around for 1 soon. Anybody got any place to recommend to get in Penang??
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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ May 12 2009, 02:34 PM)
Hi guys, update on my PV80 IR issue.

Panasonic called me up and told me that they will exchange my PV80 with the latest X10 one-to-one and retain my 5 year warranty. This is better than superb service from them. I'm extremely happy with Panasonic.

However, I still love the pv80. Dunno whether should I just keep the pv80. Any users have compared the x10 and pv80 side by side and saw any significant improvement over the older model?? Opinions are most appreciated.
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Queensbay Mall,forgot the shop name liao which sell Panasonic Plasma.U may go there to compare PV-80 and X10 but of course that PY-800 are superb hence i'm also thinking to get PY-800 as now prices drop but not so soon.
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hi guys,

fyi. my pv80 scratches issue has been solve.

panasonic has replace another new unit for me again and this time is different then previous one. this unit come with new serial no and new warranty card and they also replace everything for me including remote control, pedestal stand and etc. new unit warranty starting from the date of panasonic service guy come and install the pv80 at my house. i very untung lohhhhh already use my pv80 for more than 4 months liao. rclxm9.gif

i very appreciate with panasonic service support and they provide very good support to customer. biggrin.gif

now i'm very happy. icon_rolleyes.gif

so guys. if your pv80 have problem need to act fast otherwise ......... rclxub.gif



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hi guys,

fyi. my pv80 scratches issue has been solve.

panasonic has replace another new unit for me again and this time is different then previous one. this unit come with new serial no and new warranty card and they also replace everything for me including remote control, pedestal stand and etc. new unit warranty starting from the date of panasonic service guy come and install the pv80 at my house. i very untung lohhhhh already use my pv80 for more than 4 months liao.  rclxm9.gif

i very appreciate with panasonic service support and they provide very good support to customer. biggrin.gif

now i'm very happy.  icon_rolleyes.gif

so guys. if your pv80 have problem need to act fast otherwise ......... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(mannesmann @ May 13 2009, 10:55 AM)
hi guys,

fyi. my pv80 scratches issue has been solve.

panasonic has replace another new unit for me again and this time is different then previous one. this unit come with new serial no and new warranty card and they also replace everything for me including remote control, pedestal stand and etc. new unit warranty starting from the date of panasonic service guy come and install the pv80 at my house. i very untung lohhhhh already use my pv80 for more than 4 months liao.  rclxm9.gif

i very appreciate with panasonic service support and they provide very good support to customer. biggrin.gif

now i'm very happy.  icon_rolleyes.gif

so guys. if your pv80 have problem need to act fast otherwise ......... rclxub.gif
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Wow, I envy you bro. Coz i want my pv80 to be replaced with another pv80. Too bad panasonic said they only have the new x10 and no more pv80 in stock. Enjoy your new PV80.
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Wow, I envy you bro. Coz i want my pv80 to be replaced with another pv80. Too bad panasonic said they only have the new x10 and no more pv80 in stock. Enjoy your new PV80.
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thx bro. biggrin.gif

bcos they want to push their x10 rather then pv80. actually panansonic service center still have some stock for pv80 model. smile.gif

mayb u can try again. if u r from penang. i think u b able to get one to one replacement for pv80. biggrin.gif


according to ur previous post on warranty for 5 years on x10 model.

actually the 5 years warranty is applicable for pv80 only and it stated very clear on the warranty card but not for x10 model. x10 model is only given 1 year warranty by panasonic manufacture.

like what we can c at jusco or other electrical shop give 2 + 1 year warranty package for x10 model. actually u need pay more $$$ for the 2 years warranty. if u want to replace ur pv80 to x10 model. i think u better ask more detail from panasonic service center or panasonic dealer on the warranty. smile.gif
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QUOTE(phat_newbie @ May 13 2009, 11:19 AM)
Wow, I envy you bro. Coz i want my pv80 to be replaced with another pv80. Too bad panasonic said they only have the new x10 and no more pv80 in stock. Enjoy your new PV80.
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Agreed with Mannesmann,
There are several shop still have this PV-80 stock,correct me if i'm mistaken.But u may request to replace yr PV-80 to PY-800 aslo can consider as need to top up amount.Hences,PY-800 still avail at this moment.
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QUOTE(mannesmann @ May 13 2009, 12:01 PM)
thx bro.  biggrin.gif 

bcos they want to push their x10 rather then pv80. actually panansonic service center still have some stock for pv80 model.  smile.gif

mayb u can try again. if u r from penang. i think u b able to get one to one replacement for pv80. biggrin.gif
according to ur previous post on warranty for 5 years on x10 model.

actually the 5 years warranty is applicable for pv80 only and it stated very clear on the warranty card but not for x10 model. x10 model is only given 1 year warranty by panasonic manufacture.

like what we can c at jusco or other electrical shop give 2 + 1 year warranty package for x10 model. actually u need pay more $$$ for the 2 years warranty. if u want to replace ur pv80 to x10 model. i think u better ask more detail from panasonic service center or panasonic dealer on the warranty. smile.gif
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I asked many times for them to find me a PV80 for replacement and even offered to pay extra if they have PY800 or PY850 in stock. But according to the customer service rep, they don't have anymore previous generation plasmas in stock. This is from Panasonic Malaysia in Penang. They said that retailers might still have them, but not Panasonic Malaysia. Hence, no choice for them but to give me the X10 as replacement. The 2 year warranty is applied to the X10. But in my case, they will transfer my warranty from my PV80 over to the X10 for me to honor what I was offered before when I purchased my PV80.
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I asked many times for them to find me a PV80 for replacement and even offered to pay extra if they have PY800 or PY850 in stock. But according to the customer service rep, they don't have anymore previous generation plasmas in stock. This is from Panasonic Malaysia in Penang. They said that retailers might still have them, but not Panasonic Malaysia. Hence, no choice for them but to give me the X10 as replacement. The 2 year warranty is applied to the X10. But in my case, they will transfer my warranty from my PV80 over to the X10 for me to honor what I was offered before when I purchased my PV80.
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fyi. panasonic already replace 3 units of pv80 for me. smile.gif

recently i had ask panasonic service engineer is the pv80 spare parts still avaliable and answer is yes. if u still love ur pv80 maybe u can ask panasonic to replace the pixel screen panel for u.

i think they still have some ex-stock in their warehouse. if don't have ex-stock they won't replace another unit for me. give it a try again. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mannesmann @ May 14 2009, 11:35 AM)
fyi. panasonic already replace 3 units of pv80 for me.  smile.gif

recently i had ask panasonic service engineer is the pv80 spare parts still avaliable and answer is yes. if u still love ur pv80 maybe u can ask panasonic to replace the pixel screen panel for u.

i think they still have some ex-stock in their warehouse. if don't have ex-stock they won't replace another unit for me. give it a try again.  smile.gif
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Just check that the panel given to you is a new panel with zero hours. The supply of PV80 is quite thin now. I am sure Panny will stock parts for all their plasmas for a long time.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ May 14 2009, 01:34 PM)
Just check that the panel given to you is a new panel with zero hours. The supply of PV80 is quite thin now. I am sure Panny will stock parts for all their plasmas for a long time.
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yes. otherwise they need to jaga their backside again....... hehehe brows.gif

i don't think new unit will comes with zero hours. bcoz at production side they need to test run, picture calibration, qc inspection and etc. maybe the test run will be takes a few days or hours.

hopefully the parts will be avaliable after 5 years or more. nod.gif
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QUOTE(mannesmann @ May 14 2009, 11:35 AM)
fyi. panasonic already replace 3 units of pv80 for me.  smile.gif

recently i had ask panasonic service engineer is the pv80 spare parts still avaliable and answer is yes. if u still love ur pv80 maybe u can ask panasonic to replace the pixel screen panel for u.

i think they still have some ex-stock in their warehouse. if don't have ex-stock they won't replace another unit for me. give it a try again.  smile.gif
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Wahh... 3x already??!!!
What happended?
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QUOTE(mannesmann @ May 14 2009, 04:02 PM)
yes. otherwise they need to jaga their backside again....... hehehe  brows.gif

i don't think new unit will comes with zero hours. bcoz at production side they need to test run, picture calibration, qc inspection and etc. maybe the test run will be takes a few days or hours. 

hopefully the parts will be avaliable after 5 years or more.  nod.gif
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Actually the counter shd be very close to 0hrs. Most of the test run is done before they reset the counter to zero. I know that a lot of people have checked on new displays and found that their hrs clocked were very close to 0hrs when received. There is no calibration done to the sets before shipment. They ensure that the sets adhere to their outgoing specs. Calibration is not one of them.
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Hey guys....HDMI on 42PV80HM is HDMI 1.1....or 1.3a?..... anyone can confirm?....google cannot find this info.....
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Hey guys....HDMI on 42PV80HM is HDMI 1.1....or 1.3a?..... anyone can confirm?....google cannot find this info.....
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As far as I know it shd be v1.3a. Why do u ask? 1.1 vs 1.3a only difference for video quality would be unable to pass Deep Colour. 1.3a is more for high def Audio. There is no content out there that uses Deep colour as of today.
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As far as I know it shd be v1.3a. Why do u ask? 1.1 vs 1.3a only difference for video quality would be unable to pass Deep Colour. 1.3a is more for high def Audio. There is no content out there that uses Deep colour as of today.
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wanna matching with a receiver with come with HDMI 1.3a....so that i only just need using HDMI connect from player to receiver then to this plama tv.....so if this 42PV80HM is 1.3a, then can get the deep dark color and better contrast?..... but as far I know, the new model X10K is HDMI 1.3a..... so are you sure this PV80HM is HDMI 1.3a?.....

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QUOTE(sam240 @ May 14 2009, 08:00 PM)
wanna matching with a receiver with come with HDMI 1.3a....so that i only just need using HDMI connect from player to receiver then to this plama tv.....so if this 42PV80HM is 1.3a, then can get the deep dark color and better contrast?..... but as far I know, the new model X10K is HDMI 1.3a..... so are you sure this PV80HM is HDMI 1.3a?.....
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It does look like it is 1.3. See link below. It is the equivalent to our PV80.

Panasonic UK PX80

Anyway, Deep Colour does not mean deep dark color and better contrast. For Deep Colour to work the source needs to be in Deep Colour. As of today there is no material that uses Deep Colour for us to take advantage of. I think currently only PS3 Menu is in Deep Color 36bbit. So no real need to get this as yet.
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anfieldude, thanks for the link and answer..... then at least this PV80HM is HDMI 1.3a ready now..... hahaha..... thanks for the info
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Wahh... 3x already??!!!
What happended?
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Veri long story but at last he managed replaced 3rd unit lol.
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very very long story bro....... biggrin.gif

internal screen surface got scratches. cry.gif
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anyone know where to get good price Panasonic 42" and 50" PV80 ?
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anyone know where to get good price Panasonic 42" and 50" PV80 ?
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PV80 is better than X10k?.....now X10k below RM3k.... rclxms.gif
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becoz x10 screen more reflection then pv80....
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Panasonic service personnel delivered the X10 to me just now and took away my PV80. Damn sad. I loved the PV80 so much. Sob sob.... sad.gif
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Panasonic service personnel delivered the X10 to me just now and took away my PV80. Damn sad. I loved the PV80 so much. Sob sob.... sad.gif
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bro, finally ur problem had slove... thumbup.gif

panasonic provide how many year warranty on ur x10?
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bro, finally ur problem had slove... thumbup.gif

panasonic provide how many year warranty on ur x10?
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I still get 5 years warranty as of May 1st.They gave me a warranty card with an extended warranty chop that says warranty extended until May 1st 2014.Tried a few animation mkv files on it just now.At first,the picture looks smudged and colors were very off.Then i mucked around with the settings and turned the Picture Overscan off and everything looked good again.But the reflection on the screen is really bad compared to the PV80.Oh how I am gonna miss my old PV80.

Guess now I'm officially an ex pv80 user and a new X10 member huh. Oh wait, there's still another pv80 in my household. Haha. That means I can still remain in this club.

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I still get 5 years warranty as of May 1st.They gave me a warranty card with an extended warranty chop that says warranty extended until May 1st 2014.Tried a few animation mkv files on it just now.At first,the picture looks smudged and colors were very off.Then i mucked around with the settings and turned the Picture Overscan off and everything looked good again.But the reflection on the screen is really bad compared to the PV80.Oh how I am gonna miss my old PV80.

Guess now I'm officially an ex pv80 user and a new X10 member huh. Oh wait, there's still another pv80 in my household. Haha. That means I can still remain in this club.
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One thing is good, contrast is increase from 15,000:1 to 30,000:1, and dynamic contrast from 1,000,000:1 to 2,000,000:1. BTW, can you feel the different of the increased contrast? our eyes can notice that or impressionally only?
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QUOTE(Darren Chuah @ May 22 2009, 08:08 AM)
One thing is good, contrast is increase from 15,000:1 to 30,000:1, and dynamic contrast from 1,000,000:1 to 2,000,000:1. BTW, can you feel the different of the increased contrast? our eyes can notice that or impressionally only?
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I personally tested the X10 side by side with a PV80 and also the PY800 before. I can easily see the contrast difference immediately with the X10 looking much brighter compared to the PV80 and PY800 but the screen of the X10 is super reflective. Details wise, the PY800 wins hands down but only at close range. Now that I am just watching the X10 alone in my room, I do notice the more vibrant colors (maybe it's just my mind playing tricks.. biggrin.gif ).

Also, I really do notice some motion jerking on slow moving scenes on Speed Racer 720p mkv files that does not happen on the PV80. Fast motion scenes are not affected. If you have the X10 and Speed Racer 720p mkv, try watching the front part where Speed is racing during night time with them showing commentators slowing gliding over the scenes. Watch the commentators as they glide through and you will notice the motion jerkiness. I have watched this movie many times on the PV80 just to admire the pic quality because it is a super colorful movie with very nice graphical presentation. Hence I know all the details from the movie. I guess it's the 600Hz sub field drive thingy (I do not know what this is.. blink.gif ) effect compared to the 400Hz you get on the PV80.
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I personally tested the X10 side by side with a PV80 and also the PY800 before. I can easily see the contrast difference immediately with the X10 looking much brighter compared to the PV80 and PY800 but the screen of the X10 is super reflective. Details wise, the PY800 wins hands down but only at close range. Now that I am just watching the X10 alone in my room, I do notice the more vibrant colors (maybe it's just my mind playing tricks.. biggrin.gif ).

Also, I really do notice some motion jerking on slow moving scenes on Speed Racer 720p mkv files that does not happen on the PV80. Fast motion scenes are not affected. If you have the X10 and Speed Racer 720p mkv, try watching the front part where Speed is racing during night time with them showing commentators slowing gliding over the scenes. Watch the commentators as they glide through and you will notice the motion jerkiness. I have watched this movie many times on the PV80 just to admire the pic quality because it is a super colorful movie with very nice graphical presentation. Hence I know all the details from the movie. I guess it's the 600Hz sub field drive thingy (I do not know what this is.. blink.gif ) effect compared to the 400Hz you get on the PV80.
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mkv files might not have the correct flags. Test with a proper source and see if u see the same thing. 1080p/24 source is a better check
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mkv files might not have the correct flags. Test with a proper source and see if u see the same thing. 1080p/24 source is a better check
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But the mkv file works superbly with the PV80. Tested on 2 units of PV80 and also the LG. So, I guess the flag settings or whatever that means should be correct and its the X10's incapability to decode the source properly. I could be wrong though. Just pointing out what I observed from both models. Anyway, the X10 is sitting in my room now. Just have to make the best of what I have.
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Hi all, i like to get a 42" Plasma in this few days. But is it possible to get it bellow 3k and where to get? I'm at PJ, old klang road area. Need advice biggrin.gif

Some model tht i really like which is LG PQ70 but i'm not sure how much is the price in the shop now. Anyone got any idea?
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alexloon...try search for supplier...keep asking..haha..

maybe u can ask iambloodysick or httaki or sumone else...
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apexg2, thanks for the advice. Will keep asking and tonight i'm going to test the LG 42" PQ30 cause the regular shop's Si Tou Bor offer me RM2700... i'm not sure about this brand... what the hack, just go and view the rest as well smile.gif
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hi guys,

for panny plasma owner.

i just 1 2 share some information wit u all guys...

recently, i saw a few scratches inside the protection screen surface. rclxub.gif
i did make complain to panny service center last week.

today panny technical support supervisor came to my house n c the scratch mark on protection screen surface. he said the scratches is inside protection screen layer n not at panel screen surface. he will make a warranty claim for my plasma.

if panny replace 1 to 1 again for me. this will b my 4 units..... cool2.gif

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4th units? Something really not right with Panny QC. Lucky my Panny LCD no prob so far.
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Prob batch issue.I pity for him.
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post Jun 25 2009, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(mannesmann @ Jun 24 2009, 06:32 PM)
hi guys,

for panny plasma owner.

i just 1 2 share some information wit u all guys...

recently, i saw a few scratches inside the protection screen surface.  rclxub.gif   
i did make complain to panny service center last week.

today panny technical support supervisor came to my house n c the scratch mark on protection screen surface. he said the scratches is inside protection screen layer n not at panel screen surface. he will make a warranty claim for my plasma.

if panny replace 1 to 1 again for me. this will b my 4 units.....  cool2.gif

i had attach few pic 4 reference.
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i think i heard this before. dun worry the other fella got 1 to 1 replacement.
Btw, how did u came across to noticed it..Any trick to see it clearly?
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post Jun 26 2009, 10:12 AM

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if u want to see this problem... put ur plasma under brightness light..
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post Jun 26 2009, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(ic-klass @ Jun 25 2009, 07:49 PM)
i think i heard this before. dun worry the other fella got 1 to 1 replacement.
Btw, how did u came across to noticed it..Any trick to see it clearly?
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it was me bro.... i'm the 1 who get 1 to 1 replacement previously for 3 units. tongue.gif

after i had clean the outside panel. i saw few white line at protection screen n use finger to feel the scratches at outside layer can't feel anything. n my fire oledi up liao vmad.gif

i can tell u ahh bro... after few days later, i had decided to call panny service center n inform them abt my plasma problem. they already blur liao.... rclxub.gif so they ask me to take a pic n email to them.

the trick is...1st ur plasma need to b power off n 2nd ur room need to b very bright enough n observed distance is abt 100mm between ur eye n screen n need to b observed at certain angle mayb 35 to 45 degree either left or right side doesn't matter. after that u will c a lots of funny funny things all round the screen. (remark: need to observed all round the screen)

actually, on this plasma have 2 scratches problem that i had experince b4.

1st scratch mark is... if u can observed black colour scratch mark n the lenght is abt 10 to 20mm long. this scratch mark is at panel surface layer (outside layer). (remark: can't take pic on this scratch mark. bcos it is inside layer.)

2nd scratch mark is... if u can observed white colour scratch mark n the lenght is abt 3 to 4 inch long. this scratch mark is at protection screen surface layer (outside layer). (remarks: can take pic on this scratch mark. bcos it is outside layer. as per my attachment pic.)

i think most of panny plasma owner did not notice, there is some scratches on the panel n protection screen surface.

mayb i'm the 1st 1 to notice it n just 1 2 share wit u all guys.... rolleyes.gif


Added on June 26, 2009, 11:01 am
QUOTE(ssyam @ Jun 26 2009, 10:12 AM)
if u want to see this problem... put ur plasma under brightness light..
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u r right ssyam.. biggrin.gif


Added on June 26, 2009, 11:48 am
QUOTE(arremie @ Jun 24 2009, 06:36 PM)
4th units? Something really not right with Panny QC. Lucky my Panny LCD no prob so far.
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yaloh bor... 4 units.. give me kepala pening only..... rclxub.gif

nvm. panny give 5 years warranty maa. anything goes wrong still can claim or mayb can still get 1 to 1 replacement. tongue.gif

i think their qc is not so tight n some of the plasma is assemble at singapore.

good to hear that ur lcd no problem.



This post has been edited by mannesmann: Jun 26 2009, 11:48 AM
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post Jul 16 2009, 02:39 PM

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I just came back from Lowyat Plaza.

Panasonic is having a roadshow there.

I saw they have left 5 units of PV80h for sale. RM2799.00.

So, those still interested in PV80h, then head to lowyat plaza now.
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Jul 16 2009, 02:39 PM)
I just came back from Lowyat Plaza.

Panasonic is having a roadshow there.

I saw they have left 5 units of PV80h for sale. RM2799.00.

So, those still interested in PV80h, then head to lowyat plaza now.
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Weird pricing strategy. The price of the X10 is the same. Unless the person cannot live with the reflective screen, it is not something anyone would do. Especially with the improvements in the black levels that the X10 gives.
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dont mean to bring this up from the dead but i was curious if anyone had an extra remote to this tv that could ship to usa....friend was station there and moved back and losted the remote and i cant find a oem one around here for this model. Thanks in advance
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QUOTE(yz125rider21 @ Jul 28 2009, 08:57 PM)
dont mean to bring this up from the dead but i was curious if anyone had an extra remote to this tv that could ship to usa....friend was station there and moved back and losted the remote and i cant find a oem one around here for this model. Thanks in advance
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You can try to contact Panasonic Malaysia. I'm sure they can help you to get the new remote control.

It is very highly unlikely that anyone has an extra remote control.

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that said...have you ever shipped something to the states????curious before i contact them if its woth it....i cant order from site unless i have a passport or some crap i notice. and it says rm 47.00 and looked it up and thats about 14 bucks if i am correct???
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hi guys.....

fyi.

for the past few weeks i have been waiting from panasonic reply whether i can up grade my pv80 2 s10k model due 2 pv80 has been discontinue n they could not find another pv80 model 4 me. cry.gif

finally panasonic had call me yesterday n i'm very happy that panasonic willing to replace my pv80 2 s10k model as per my request. rclxm9.gif

i hope that s10k dont give me a lot of quality issue like pv80 perviously. next week panasonic will deliver s10k 4 me n will pack the pv80 back.... i miss my pv80..... cry.gif

next week i have a new toy to play..... tongue.gif

i can said that panasonic did a very good service support 4 customer........ icon_rolleyes.gif

thumbs up 4 panasonic...... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Jul 30 2009, 03:38 PM

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welcome to s10 club
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QUOTE(Mr.Copland @ Jul 30 2009, 03:38 PM)
welcome to s10 club
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post Jul 30 2009, 08:15 PM

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In fact i'm the 1st person to be known abt this matter.Bravo and thumb up rclxms.gif
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Anybody knows the measurement for wall bracket for this model ?

400mm x 400mm can support ?

How about Vesa measurements?
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QUOTE(CyberianHusky @ Aug 4 2011, 03:44 PM)
Anybody knows the measurement for wall bracket for this model ?

400mm x 400mm can support ?

How about Vesa measurements?
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I'm using the TV model as well.

I have an extra bracket for it.

Let me know if you are interested.
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Hi guys, i saw that there's been a few number of discussion on the plasma, lcd & etc tv out there.. I am having trouble with my Panasonic Viera Model # TH-42PV80HM. It seems that all the sudden when i connect HDMI and play Astro beyond.. it just show me a blank black screen.. with the HDMI1 on top.. tried with HDMI2 and 3 too with no avail.. is there anyway to resolve this? using normal RCA still work though on AV1. Just the HDMI channel.. really cant see any image, sound.. so wierd.. just got this tv from my brother a few weeks ago.. any suggestion?
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post Nov 22 2011, 04:39 PM

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was the Beyond working with HDMI on other TVs ?
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nevermind. called the panasonic service in. they're replacing a chip or something on the board tomorrow.

 

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