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post Oct 9 2009, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Oct 9 2009, 01:08 PM)
the way you keep emphasizing on fulltime mother doing all the hard work is a direct insult to most fathers, who are more than willing to share the burden to change diapers, feeding. i agree on man should provide security and food on the table, but it's not a man job to please a women unlimited greed on LV handbags.
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 9 2009, 01:13 PM)
In that case you've misinterpretted her. She's merely saying pick from among the financially capable, and who's to say that love cannot happen within these brackets?
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precisely, I've state set a standard and be proud of it, instead of so afraid people would call you gold diggers.

its like I only wanna date chinese man, then they start another debate like you think chinese ppl are grand, you're racist and so on. But the point is I like chinese man. But then again this is OOT

But these people twist the context into unbelievable argument, but then if I've time I would still debate, I like debates it helps the mind stay sharp.
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Oct 9 2009, 01:14 PM)
Women who kill their own children in order to keep their husbands.

Google it.


Added on October 9, 2009, 1:14 pm

Nope, that's not what Moorish is saying at all.
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You're twisting this way off course, then can I say got average income man who keeps jin and sex the wife 14 times a day...google it
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post Oct 9 2009, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Oct 8 2009, 08:16 PM)
I see your point.. a positive, self motivated man is what you looking for.  smile.gif

In order to live a fulfilling life you have to take action..visualize, ask for Gods abundance, plan and be courageous enough to seek what you want..despite what other say.  You have to work for what it is that you want in this life.  Very few follow this path..most people go through life taking what's "given" to them.  They dont aim for success.  They dont achieve their full potential.  The side effect of people that aim for success is that EVENTUALLY they too will be wealthy.. not only spiritually but also financially.    

The problem with your paradigm is that, not all wealthy men are matured, ambitious and positive. 

A guy could have all the money in the world.. He could easily provide for his children and wife.  But..what IF he is a drug dealer?  What if he makes money from other people misery? What if he inherited his richest from his billionaire dad? What if this rich guy have some issues? Would you be willing to marry this guy? Would your morals and conscious accept him? Does SECURITY means that much to you?

Security is important.  Yes everyone needs security / certainty.  But its not all there is a relationship.  I trust women of today should be above this.  They should aim for a fulfilling life.. aim for what they want in life.  Not just stand there by their man.. and watch as her dreams pass her by.  If you want a positive, self motivated and successful guy.. you yourself must be willing to reach the same heights as your partner.
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I saw this post yesterday but didnt find time to reply. I find his angle very very interesting. Drug dealer.

During my time with my ex he is sort of gangster type, I've come to know a lot of others in gang and of coz the girls would be mixing and chatting.

I used to follow my ex to meet this leader in penang, he is filthy rich and his money of coz isnt clean. He has 4 wifes and all the wifes knows each other. They stay in big houses each of them, with so many big guard dogs, they drive nice cars, he has a guy who drives an Estima to all the wifes house to pick up and send all the children to school, LV and diamond rolex of coz included in the package, I used to adore her watch we call them "moon thin sing", diamonds were set even on the casing and bracelet, it cost about 120K that time, I'm not sure how much it cost now.

During that time, we're living hands to mouth, no savings, sometimes ex will get big money duno from where and he will spend it all within 2 weeks, karaokes and gambling. I remember sometimes deep in my mind how I wish I was like those wifes enjoying life. All his 4 wifes are ex karaokes GROs

I sometimes try to put my shoes if I can be like them? I guess when you're very low in your life you dun seem to have much choice, so security has a new meaning, you actually dun care, but its only in my mind I didnt do it.

Then I look at those girls and wonder, do they love him? The answer is yes I believe. But if you ask what kinda love this is I dont know. I guess it depends where you come from.

I've mixed even with prostitutes, some of his frens gfs are prost and we do talk a lot, I've asked them why they do what they do and most times they come from poor broken families.

I guess moral and how many people ignored moral, or are force to put moral aside. I dun and never look down on them, I kept in touch with a few girls after married but I can see from hubbys face he dun really like me mixing around with those girls so I slowly stayed away.

Coming back to this topic, those girls comes from broken family with very little guidance, sometimes money is so tight and without much education and mother sick or bro and sis still young need to go to school they sell themselves for quick money. I respect this girls in the sense they willing to lower thier standard and make sure their younger bro and sis can have proper education. OLs I know or white collar girls, will never in thier life sacrifice so much for the family.

They never got out from the slum as its already become part of their lives now.

I dont come from broken family, but I do come from poor family, my parents never agreed with me going out with thugs, but that time young and I practically elope and stay with my ex, I was very in love with him, and broke my mums heart into 1000X pieces.

As I grow older, and time is catching up, I start to panic coz I see this is going nowhere, hence fast forward to today I got out of it.

So you see, if you come from a comfortable lifes, drug money is a big sin, but if you're way down there, its heaven sent.

I know its morally wrong, thats why I make sure I'm a fulltime mother and put as much reality and moral to Noreens life. I'll try to give my best.

ok guys, time for yuo to twist and attack me...I'm being truthful of my experience and what I felt that time, the temptations was strong.

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post Oct 9 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(sinchro @ Oct 9 2009, 02:13 PM)
whats wrong with what i said? why the unnecessary facepalm? did i say anything that didn't make any sense?

i think it makes perfect sense, and i was asking 2 questions. if u dun wanna explain to me, then at least answer them briefly....

whats the picture anyway? mind explaining to me? and please.....answer directly, not twisting, turning and averting until the other side of the universe.

here's what i said again,
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if you insist girls who go for rich husband are gold diggers using security as an excuse then ok lor, all those rich man are cursed without true love.
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post Oct 9 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 01:19 PM)
actually is just like below

rich guy = give more priority

rich guy but with attitude problem = test drive 1st if boh ngam then ditch and find new 1.

not-rich guy = asked them main buntut themself.
No la, I dun think highly of myself, its just like a very nice fat and ugly girl but very very good character interested in you, do you ask her play with banana? she is just not your taste coz you can get better girls, but then ppl might say you're being shallow coz look is not important shocking.gif

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post Oct 9 2009, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 9 2009, 02:22 PM)
Finally we agree, I don't understand.
Who's debating? You debate when you want to win an argument. I've already decided that this isn't an argument I care to win because like I said, everyone is entitled to make their own choices. Yes, there are heaps of possibilities but unless I missed the plot completely, we are talking about MONEY hence my hypothetical quesion in relation to MONEY, capishe?

I agree that all men should work towards fulfilling their potential whether it be in their professional or personal lives. I also agree that money is a component of security. The issue I have is when women like yourself think you are entitled to all of this. It is a privilege, not a right.

Its not entitle, I merely set a standard, I mean I want to fulfilled my dream as a fulltime mother, thats all, its really a simple dream, I need a man with money and a man who share this believe to fulfilled this dream. It takes 2 to clap you know.



Spunkberry brought up a very good point which you conveniently dodge, that women today demand for equality... but only when it's convenient. Do you agree that men need not chip in when it comes to carrying out chores? I mean, men bring home the meat, women clean and cook right?

If you've notice I'm very traditional, my hubby dun do dishes, he dun cooked, but this few months is exceptional as I was struggling to cope with new baby so he help out in some chores. But I feel sad when I see him doing things. I cook daily and try to learn new dishes from MIL.

I like to make the home very comfy so he can come home and enjoy. I make coffee for him morning and night time where he like to sit and watch his fishes while I start a war online

So I'm not those equality woman, when a burglar breaks into the house I expect hubby to deal with it


Men can have affairs so long as they don't bring them home?
Since when this is classed under equality? if like that hubby dun mind I play around with man outside?


If you agree with the examples given then well, good on ya but if you don't, why does equality not come into play when you talk about security? Why should a women not be expected to chip in?

I dun believe in equality, but honestly I like to be pampered...which girl doesnt?


I personally don't think it's easy being a full time mom. It's tiring and taxing. I get tired spending just 30 mins with more than 1 kid. Having said that, I'm surprised you are reinforcing the stereotype that a woman's place is at home making babies. To me, it's a very traditional way of thinking. I actually admire career women but that's just me. They are sell sufficient and need not rely on men to survive. Some might say they're stupid but at least they will be respected. Like I said earlier, I care about how I'm remembered when I'm gone.

I'm really surprise at how many of you dun respect a fulltime mother or think fulltime mother is less respectful as compared to career woman.

Is there a possibility you guys are more money minded? just because a fulltime mother doesnt earn money she is less respectful in the society?


PS: I'm not 'young'/.
Yes I can see from your posting


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post Oct 9 2009, 02:57 PM

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Sorry I've brushed your post aside and gave you a disappointing answer not thick enuf to debate

QUOTE(sinchro @ Oct 9 2009, 01:04 PM)
yeapp
and to moorish:

just because YOUR mother instincts kicked in doesn't make it right, i've seen alot of mothers happy with their family without being money minded. are u telling me their mother instinct haven't kicked in yet?

I'm coming from the angle, a lot of young girls who are so in love with thier handsum bfs, they plunge into marriage and after 1 baby decided hubby not capable to sapot.

The money minded from you is it security or BMW? coz I was coming from security.


and how do u know since prehistoric times women have been like that?

And how do you know prehistoric times woman are not like that? I'm basing this on human before civilization, meaning no commercial values or trading. So we can automatically assume the value of extra T-rex meat would've been useless.


how did u know they didn't choose based on other factors?
you mean like handsome flintstone? well if they have chosen handsum flintstone who cant hunt and protect the family they would've been extint by now dun you think so?


sure security yeah, but how did u know they placed 'security' over everything else 1st? even so, how does that make it right?

They live in dangerous times, security and food is the only reason, without this 2 they wont be human today


and don't give me the ' i didnt delete love etc etc' crap. the point is that u placed money higher then everything else.
Coz I was coming from the point of prehistoric times, security = money
so I stressed on the money part


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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 02:50 PM)
Seriously, i dun mind giving chances to a fat and ugly gal if she willing to slim down and learn how to look more presentable.

but u is different, u never give chance to those who not rich momentary, 1st thing u did is to filtering out what he own, but ignoring what he can be in future.
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 9 2009, 02:55 PM)
Ahchai! i really dont think u understand what u just said sad.gif

You asking the girl to slim down is the same as her asking u to get rich. how many facepalm, now?
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thats a good one teongpeng,

7chai
that shows you're still shallow with a little tolerance, what if she cant slim down? or no plastic surgery can fix her?

seriously, it is still shallow

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QUOTE(cynthiacassandra @ Oct 9 2009, 03:02 PM)
i duno wat u all talking bout here.....

but i agreed for this !!!!

Girls are money minded, And be proud of it !!!

who's no?? not even girls...its applied on guys as well....

sumore...wat century is this??  everythg is all about money....
eventho money cant buy any happiness...life or wat so ever...but if without money u ar nobody.... hik smile.gif

cheerzz !!
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hi there...this thread is about few guys got their egos hurt
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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 03:03 PM)
but then she still stand the chances right ? rather than u dun even give a damn/look down to those who not rich.


Added on October 9, 2009, 3:04 pm
thats not smart, thats money-minded.
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but what you're doing is still shallow right? why cant you leave her as it is?

I asked you what if she cant slim down or no plastic surgery can fix her up, would you still marry her?

QUOTE(POYOZER @ Oct 9 2009, 03:04 PM)
Everyone also money minded. But to choose a husband because of money, that is totally cheap.
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fulltime mother need to makan right?
or you expect the baby to earn her milk and diapers?
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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 9 2009, 03:07 PM)
Well you see that's your problem of not knowing how to choose quality guys. The guy is a gangster and you chose to be with him so it's YOUR FAULT. You can easily say NO to him but you didn't so you have only yourselves to blame .  You have to be accountable for your own choices.
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so you're saying all those GROs and prostitute are all losers with no moral and that is why they end up there? gosh a long essay and thats all you're able to picked up.

My hubby is exactly 10 years my senior, he always tells me I live a life full of experience, I dun read a lot but I experience a lot in life hence I look at life as real and not from books.
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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 9 2009, 03:08 PM)
SEe now u are shooting yourself in the foot. You disagree with her on setting standard and here you are saying she shouldnt be with a gangster.

Dont worry moorish....i got this one under control.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I'm amazed, you really fully understand everything. I've tried to tell them this somewhere back there but the message got lost or deliberately ignored.


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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 03:11 PM)
dude, look all over her reply and read this thread title again "Girls are money minded" who said ?

moorish, i dun call it shallow. its just a part of criteria, if she wanna couple up with me, i tell her what i want and if she manage to change then good lar, if she can't then sorry, at least I wont tell her straight that "get lose u fugly fatty." Like i said earlier, everyone deserve a chance.
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hey you;re still setting standard of your choice of wife right?
You;re ok to be shallow but I'm not ok to pick a rich hubby.
at least the reason I pick a rich hubby is so I can be a fulltime mother, what is your intention of denying a ugly fat woman for a wife?

and btw I dun think so I;m that rude, an indonesia construction worker wanna date me I tell him u balik indon. I'll just say sorry. thats all.




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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Oct 9 2009, 03:12 PM)
Do you mind to tell to your husband that you chose him because of his wealth and love is the second?
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he reads this thread.


QUOTE(teongpeng @ Oct 9 2009, 03:13 PM)
People who dont understand what they are saying and need others to repeat again and again is the main reason why this thread has reached 100 pages.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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you can snap them back and same time add sense of humour, you should be a comedian

QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Oct 9 2009, 03:13 PM)
WAKAKAKAKAK!

You never know your own husband's experience yet....  biggrin.gif
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I know plenty, he is very sincere and tells me a lot of his experience, I'm not those unexposed girls, I know what man do, so no worry there.

QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 9 2009, 03:15 PM)
Sorry la I cannot relate with the experience with your kampung cause from the city I come from, it's very very normal for girls to work and have kids at the same time. Usually both parents will share the burden of raising the kids rather than just one from where I come from.  In fact these girls themselves want to work as they know they are capable and from what they tell me not working will make them "aunty" and unexposed to the outside world.
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I'm not saying girls who work is not normal, I'm saying if you choose love with a man who are not capable to raise a family will regret coz she and the kids will run into problem.

It is me who just want to be a fulltime mother in here, and debbie says she want to be one too when she becomes a mother, that is why she is also aiming high, to prepare her foundation b4 plunging into starting a family.

QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Oct 9 2009, 03:15 PM)
I understand that at 3 o'clock most full time moms would either be feeding their baby or taking a nap together with them.

I understand that this baby already has a physically present mother, but emotionally absent one.
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baby makan and same time mama fighting off internet war
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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 9 2009, 03:21 PM)
No I didn't say that, I'm saying those GRO and Prostitute had a choice of NOT prostituting or being a GRO. But of course prostituting is easier money than working their way up through the corporate ladder. Of course prostituting is also much easier than studying hard and getting a decent job later in life.

I'm saying that they themselves MADE THAT CHOICE and therefore they are accountable for their own choices. They can't blame guys and they can't blame anyone for the situation that they are in.
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doh.gif people like you....and people here calling me a arrogant.

You try turun padang and help the aids drug addict, and prostitute at chow kit, tell them you wouldnt end up here if your dad didnt take drugs and leave the whole family, if you've somehow manage to study hard, somehow duno where the money come from, take up doctor degree, then this world no more poor people, we would be like in duno which planet must be in heaven where everybody is high and mighty.

Dude, go out more, mix more with unfortunate people and understand the society, get more life experience instead of reading up on noreens story book.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 03:27 PM)
i mean that line is example lar, of course i wont be that rude as well.

of course, there will be a standard. The thing is, I want my the other half to look more presentable, is nothing wrong about it. is just that, i dun mind COUPLE with a fat and not good looking gal, as long as she got the will to slim down and looks better, of course i will help her with that as I've helped alot of my overweight friend to diet.

It just that when u talk about marriage, there are no guarantee that u will be with the same person u COUPLE. I mean maybe i will have a pretty wife, or someone who is ugly. But the bottomline is, I don't choose person base on how they look, but in the same time, i dun simply develop special feeling to any other gal. i hope i answer ur question
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you dun choose a person by the look but yet you want your other half to be presentable, you should start a thread man wan beautiful wife and be proud of it.

Be bold and admit what you want in life like what I did.

Why do you want to help your fren slim down? whats the problem being fat?

it is still setting a standard just like I set a standard for my husband to be
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 9 2009, 03:27 PM)
I have to ask. What if you weren't a mom? Would that change your opinion?

I duno, from very young somehow I got program to be a mom.


Hmm my girlfriend makes my bed, cooks for me occasionally (since we don't live together), irons my clothes and gives me a massage when I'm sore. I don't expect her to do those things but she knows I appreciate them. In return, I cook for her even though I'm crap at it (hmm maybe it's a bad thing then), I help her clean her room, etc. My point is that I like to contribute even if it's chores traditionally performed by women. Of course I still do all the more physically demanding chores e.g. changing the car tyre, lifting heavy objects etc but I believe in sharing our duties.

Although she does perform there chores, she likes having a career and she always offers to pay, even if I decline. My point? that just because you do the traditional stuff like cooking, sewing, etc, it doesn't mean you can't still be modern.

I've never said woman cannot go out and work, I only say marry a rich man, my rich is security not datuks. someone capable to sapot the family, not give birth also need to loan type. And I;m not coming from rich so I can buy BMW.


While it's morally wrong to have affairs, certain men believe that while they can fool around, they won't be able to tolerate it when their women do. I know of certain women who have said that they accept that their husbands may have affairs outside but ignorance is bliss. What if the roles were reversed? Can men accept it? Most likely not. I see it as a form of inequality, not just adultery.

about this i'll KIV, when got time I write another frens experience.


Everyone likes to be pampered, who doesn't? Guys do as well. I just don't believe in demanding or expecting to be.
I think you're making an assumption here. I personally respect full time mothers, like I said earlier, it isn't easy. What I don't agree with is your train of thought. I mentioned earlier that I when I get married, I would like nothing more than to have my wife take care of the kids with no work distractions. Having said that I don't agree that it should be expected. The end result may be the same, but the intentions are different. If you are offered, then fairplay but I don't agree to demanding for that to happen.

The word demanding is actually started and put into me by duno who...
I couple with my husband, so of coz we discuss whats our futures like and he ask me and I tell him when married I want to quit my job and be fulltime mother, and he not only agree to this in fact he DEMANDED that I quit my job after we get married with or without baby.

so I ended up staying with him b4 married and I quit my job...

so I've never demand on the part, its just how couple sandpaper thier lifes fitting things together
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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 9 2009, 03:40 PM)
Well there's KFC, restaurant for you to work so why must one prostitute to earn money? If they are capable of prostituting I'm sure they pretty much capable of washing plates or become a promoter at some shopping complex.

  Also most prostitutes become prostitutes, and this was in an article in the Star section2 a few years back, not because they were forced to, but because it's better money, and that comes from the horse's mouth.
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thats why ask you read properly, you seriously think they;re dumb? you're arrogant.

sick mom...bro and sis so young, no money, if she work in KFC she can only fend for herselfs and leave the family to die. This is exactly what whitecollar girls do.

Thats why I've great respect for these girls and actually respect them more than those career woman you talk about.

They do this so family can survive, so bro and sis get proper education so no need to end up in slums.

open your eyes and dun snub them.
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QUOTE(nickisthemost @ Oct 9 2009, 03:40 PM)
this brings an interesting question, as much as you want to be a full time mother, it somehow does reflect that's the only choice that you can make or is it not

else if you still can't find a rich and compatible hubby, what would you do ?
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I dun understand...maybe my mind is blur...care to elaborate more

QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 03:42 PM)
thats the difference between u and me, mine is feeling come 1st, while urs are money come 1st. That what u self proclaimed "I am money minded"
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you mean look has no apparent attraction to you at all? you said you expect a presentable wife, the question should be can you fall in love with a fat ugly woman?

QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 9 2009, 03:45 PM)
and i forgot to add, moorish.

why i wanna help my fren diet to slim down is because of healthy purpose, they asked for help so i help, is that a problem as well ?
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Sincerely it has nothing to do with get a gf or get a bf?

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