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 LYN Kancil's Owner Club a.k.a SLK V2~, come come join small lil devil in here~

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post May 5 2009, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:02 PM)
Just bring my car to my mom's fren have a look,
found out this hose broken :
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everything become normal back after replaced it  nod.gif
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This thing bother me twice and after i changed to metal one then no more problem of this...
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post May 5 2009, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(yott-chan @ May 5 2009, 03:02 PM)
how much it costs if u dont mind me asking?

me also facing same prob, even in idle, RPM stay at 2000-2500rpm cry.gif

but i see the engine, nothing weird also, no broken hose or anything.. maybe carburetor.. anyone knows how much should i prepare if carb got prob?

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i guess your carby need to re-tune,
find some experience mech to do it for you wink.gif

my mom's fren who help me to re-tune/clean up the carby when i change my clutch...
but unfortunately, my carby auto choke already un-function... sad.gif

QUOTE(AllFoodsCanEat @ May 5 2009, 04:06 PM)
This thing bother me twice and after i changed to metal one then no more problem of this...
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where you get the metal hose?
i changed mine twice after my mom's fren help me changed few days ago,
but the problem come back again today ~
the stupid rat bite the same place and cause the hose broken ~ mad.gif

how to prevent this? rclxub.gif

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post May 5 2009, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(JasonB @ May 5 2009, 10:17 AM)
Thanks Deto for your extensive explanation.
Sounds like alot of work to transplant the ED-DE then. rclxub.gif

Deto and LYN Kancil gang!
I have started restoring my old Kancil since Nov last year.
The last item for me to do is the engine. I want to complete this project of mine before end of this year.  icon_question.gif
So hope you guys don't mind me bugging & asking too much questions ya.

Need all your opinion on this.

What i want:
- Improve FC.
(current 12.5cents/Km, +/-)
- Easy to maintain.
(currently every month sure have something to fix..old car ma..)
- Spare parts easily available.
- Just enough power to climb Genting cukup la..heheh no need power power..kepish!
(Currently with 2 ppl can only reach Gotong Jaya, engine struggling gear 3 or 2.. sad.gif )

What i have:
- Daihatsu 660 6v na (M)
- RM3.5k to transplant. (if able to cut down cost better la haha..)

Options:
- Top overhaul.
- Overhaul.
- L5 660 4piston na (M)
- any more ideas??

Greatly appreciate all your contributions.
Thanks!
Jason
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Advantages/Disadvantages of Overhaul:
- eventho all parts are new... but still stuck with 660cc and 2 valve perpiston.. engine still struggling
- modifying ori engine can be carryout through out the overhaul, ori part > performance part, example
... head swap.. from 6v to 12v.. but must take the carb and exhaust manifold too.. a little rewiring must be done
... clutch plate.. change to 850 has some advantages for 660 as 850 are bigger.. 850=L2 size..or can opt for exedy 3puck for L2..
... flywheel.. can send to lightened the flywheel.. give good rev all out but , skimmed too much will degrade the high end power..unless there's something helping to push the top, e.g. turbo snail..
... piston.. can use super over size, 72mm 4g13 std size piston.. this piston are flat. means compression are meant for hi comp.. ..lighter rev.. it a good idea when overhaul that we change the piston as maybe the bore is already bigger.. means the ori piston are not tight in the bore.. so use bigger piston solve the problem.. (remmbr like my fren case.. piston 1 dun have compression eventho already change piston ring.. it still happen.. and when dismantle every back.. and check out between piston 1 and its bore .. we can sleeve in a business card..here make the compression lost.. )
... electronic distributor.. forget dy the advantages but afaik, dont have to change the contact point regularly.. also a lighter rev..

Advantages/Disadvantages of L5 660 N/A
- cooler look and cooler aircond using dashboard > L5..
- 4piston=lesser vibration
- getting new experience with new engine..
- is u dont get good h/c a nightmare will haunt u down dude..
.. eventho sparepart are available. u're losing on installation fees...
... sparepart are bit expensive example.. top set of Jb-series engine are 550-650RM.. while 12v/6v top set most of expensive kena chop like rm130(daihatsu packaging)... even rm60 also can get..
.. u dont know previous history of ur halfcut.. the reason of being cutted at japan.. example.. masuk longkang... masuk sawah padi.. wiring problem or other problem.. tarak lepas japan yearly inspection ka..... the service history.. being trashed or being driven by a girl or makciks.. tips: take accident halfcut are better.. cos we know the car being cutted becos of accident.. but dont straight 'bang' front la.. maybe on right or left side..
-some chopshop use chemical to wash the engine b4 putting on the shelf. maybe having hard to see the leakage...
need to concern more on engine part if using L5..
as other.. like gearbox,radiator.. can use back L2/kancil part

Advantages/Disadvantages of L5 660 Turbo twincam 4 piston 16v
... take from above.. just add
+ a pure power upgrade!...

decision is urs...

if done overhaul.. engine shud have no problem and restore back original power.. if other have problem might not solve all the problem
if done conversion.. need to worry the sparepart and money constraint.. and maybe some other problem might occur too..


Added on May 5, 2009, 8:21 pm
QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ May 5 2009, 07:43 PM)
i guess your carby need to re-tune,
find some experience mech to do it for you  wink.gif

my mom's fren who help me to re-tune/clean up the carby when i change my clutch...
but unfortunately, my carby auto choke already un-function...  sad.gif 
where you get the metal hose?
i changed mine twice after my mom's fren help me changed few days ago,
but the problem come back again today ~
the stupid rat bite the same place and cause the hose broken ~  mad.gif

how to prevent this?  rclxub.gif
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how did the mice know where to bite.. ? I guess u have some other problem lah bro.
if the part are avail in metal. just go for that one.

This post has been edited by detomaso: May 5 2009, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(detomaso @ May 5 2009, 08:19 PM)
how did the mice know where to bite.. ? I guess u have some other problem lah bro.
if the part are avail in metal. just go for that one.
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Detomaso,
wah, suddenly you reply a lot ! thumbup.gif
really great info there ~
i guess your experience is buy from $$$, right ? brows.gif laugh.gif

regarding the hose,
it looks like mice's teeth bite lah~
before that don't have such problem one...
too bad my phone camera can't take close up shot...
sad.gif
that hose broken same place twice ...
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post May 5 2009, 09:52 PM

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great info there from detamaso...u r really experienced dude...hope we all can share more with you..

anyway...at the end of the day L2s is still the best choice rite???better FC and got heck lot more power rather than throwing money into the stock 660cc 6V engine...but L2s halfcut price is increasing lately...not to forget about the cost of installation...lately i have been thinking about my budget for transplant..honestly its kinda tight...thought of maintain the current engine...just overhaul it n change to 12v head...replace clutch n timing belt...

JasonB :

if ur budget is 3.5k for transplant process...i think its very tight because L2 halfcut also cost u around 2.4k-2.8k(depending on condition of halfcut)...then installation n replace of tear and wear parts...if u r lucky then u can get a good halfcut...if not then you will have to fork out more money to replace tear and wear parts...but in a long run L2s its a good choice...plug n play straightaway...low maintainence...low FC provided you dont rev all the way to redline then only change gear...if u wanna transplant L2s engine...i think u need to prepare at least 4k...
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post May 5 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(JasonB @ May 5 2009, 10:17 AM)
Thanks Deto for your extensive explanation.
Sounds like alot of work to transplant the ED-DE then. rclxub.gif

Deto and LYN Kancil gang!
I have started restoring my old Kancil since Nov last year.
The last item for me to do is the engine. I want to complete this project of mine before end of this year.  icon_question.gif
So hope you guys don't mind me bugging & asking too much questions ya.

Need all your opinion on this.

What i want:
- Improve FC.
(current 12.5cents/Km, +/-)
- Easy to maintain.
(currently every month sure have something to fix..old car ma..)
- Spare parts easily available.
- Just enough power to climb Genting cukup la..heheh no need power power..kepish!
(Currently with 2 ppl can only reach Gotong Jaya, engine struggling gear 3 or 2.. sad.gif )

What i have:
- Daihatsu 660 6v na (M)
- RM3.5k to transplant. (if able to cut down cost better la haha..)

Options:
- Top overhaul.
- Overhaul.
- L5 660 4piston na (M)
- any more ideas??

Greatly appreciate all your contributions.
Thanks!
Jason
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Owh ic ic. Umm Overhauling better not do it since your transplanting so maybe you transplant the L5 engine NA one. 4-piston. I heard got high maintainence for the 4-piston engine. Spare part kind of hard to get though. Umm trying to get a L5 3 piston one or maybe a 850cc Kelisa Engine Twin Cam 12v one.


QUOTE(yott-chan @ May 5 2009, 03:02 PM)
how much it costs if u dont mind me asking?

me also facing same prob, even in idle, RPM stay at 2000-2500rpm cry.gif

but i see the engine, nothing weird also, no broken hose or anything.. maybe carburetor.. anyone knows how much should i prepare if carb got prob?

tqtq
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Hmm, this one I think carburator dirty i guess. Well not really sure. My RPM with Aircond around 1.5 sometimes unstable. I saw my throttle body quite dirty though. Before on my carb engine i was having the same problem as well.
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post May 6 2009, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ May 5 2009, 09:43 PM)
Detomaso,


regarding the hose,
it looks like mice's teeth bite lah~
before that don't have such problem one...
too bad my phone camera can't take close up shot...
sad.gif
that hose broken same place twice ...
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its not mice. might be something sharp kena that hose, engine vibration make the cut.


Added on May 6, 2009, 7:06 am@yott-chan, service carb.

btw urs is 850? as u have rpm meter?

u can check the idling screw at carb there. sorry can help on this. hehe smile.gif being stuck with EFI for 4 years dy.


Added on May 6, 2009, 7:07 am
QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ May 5 2009, 09:43 PM)
Detomaso,
wah, suddenly you reply a lot !  thumbup.gif
really great info there ~
i guess your experience is buy from $$$, right ?  brows.gif  laugh.gif

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just have a bit of free time. i spend it here.


Added on May 6, 2009, 7:14 am
QUOTE(tommi88 @ May 5 2009, 09:52 PM)
great info there from detamaso...u r really experienced dude...hope we all can share more with you..

anyway...at the end of the day L2s is still the best choice rite???better FC and got heck lot more power rather than throwing money into the stock 660cc 6V engine...but L2s halfcut price is increasing lately...not to forget about the cost of installation...lately i have been thinking about my budget for transplant..honestly its kinda tight...thought of maintain the current engine...just overhaul it n change to 12v head...replace clutch n timing belt...

JasonB :

if ur budget is 3.5k for transplant process...i think its very tight because L2 halfcut also cost u around 2.4k-2.8k(depending on condition of halfcut)...then installation n replace of tear and wear parts...if u r lucky then u can get a good halfcut...if not then you will have to fork out more money to replace tear and wear parts...but in a long run L2s its a good choice...plug n play straightaway...low maintainence...low FC provided you dont rev all the way to redline then only change gear...if u wanna transplant L2s engine...i think u need to prepare at least 4k...
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converting during economic breakdown sure put u pain in de arse.

but during these day lah u have lots of choise choosing halfcut.. really. so recently my visit to halfcut.. like 1 halfcut got 2-3 L2s Front Cut. just either being auto and manual only. price varies... floating ranging from 2k-2.6k .. one of the best is L2s White Meter,power steering, auto halfcut .. clean engine located somewhere in pandan indah. Giant Jaya Autopart. @ RM2k.


Added on May 6, 2009, 7:23 amCosting Converting to L2(s) halfcut

- Timing Belt Set, RM120
- Outside belting, RM40
- Gas Aircond, RM50
- Coolant(optional) RM30
- Gearbox oil RM35
- Engine Oil + Filter RM60
- Transplant Fee RM700-900(including wiring of new engine)
- Brake pad RM50
- Driveshaft Boot Cover(if needed) RM10 each x 4 , not including installation of this boot cover as considering as driveshaft service.
- Skim Disc(optional) RM60
- Clutch Set RM250

example of getting billed... best bet.. get to know ur pomen first b4 converting.. make sure he done lots of conversion b4...

L5 brake pad are abit expensive.. other the same with L2.

This post has been edited by detomaso: May 6 2009, 07:23 AM
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post May 6 2009, 08:52 AM

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wahhhh...dat L2s halfcut really cheap...too bad its auto...if its manual i will go there n c the halfcut ady...tempting!!!!URGHHH!!!!
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post May 6 2009, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(tommi88 @ May 6 2009, 08:52 AM)
wahhhh...dat L2s halfcut really cheap...too bad its auto...if its manual i will go there n c the halfcut ady...tempting!!!!URGHHH!!!!
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dunno la .. that was like 2 weeks ago.. dunno now then.. haha i think u lenchai can speak canton sure he giv u best price ma.
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LOL!!!dunno...haha...now cash not in hand yet...wait till cash in hand then only start going to find halfcut...or else walk in like that scared those people there dont like it...
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QUOTE(tommi88 @ May 6 2009, 08:55 AM)
LOL!!!dunno...haha...now cash not in hand yet...wait till cash in hand then only start going to find halfcut...or else walk in like that scared those people there dont like it...
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hahah.. eh no TTs ?? plan one . holiday will start 2-3 weeks time...
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haha...soon dude...i also just fin my exam yesterday...will start planning soon...hahaha...but i malu la wanna drive my car out when TT...stock standard sia...
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QUOTE(tommi88 @ May 6 2009, 08:58 AM)
haha...soon dude...i also just fin my exam yesterday...will start planning soon...hahaha...but i malu la wanna drive my car out when TT...stock standard sia...
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no worries. my car also stock... hahaa..

my new fc is killing me now.. plan place nearby town area or pj where can be easily reach lah..
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ur car stock???impossible...

haha..my FC also killing me what...ask those members who are going then we will decide on location...haha..
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QUOTE(tommi88 @ May 6 2009, 09:02 AM)
ur car stock???impossible...

haha..my FC also killing me what...ask those members who are going then we will decide on location...haha..
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somewhere the food also nice and lots of choises... hehehe
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post May 6 2009, 09:16 AM

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haha...that i need to scratch my head..LOL...not so good around PJ area...
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QUOTE(tommi88 @ May 6 2009, 09:16 AM)
haha...that i need to scratch my head..LOL...not so good around PJ area...
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the old damansara uptown also nice what the foodcourt.

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izzit??haha..mayb u can bring us all there during the next TT...
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post May 6 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(detomaso @ May 6 2009, 07:03 AM)
its not mice. might be something sharp kena that hose, engine vibration make the cut.
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next TT i show you which hose broken ...

anyone else want TT? wink.gif
I'm in. nod.gif
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ May 6 2009, 01:28 PM)
next TT i show you which hose broken ...

anyone else want TT?  wink.gif
I'm in.  nod.gif
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spare an extra hose in ur car.

hehe.

ok ok setup TT

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