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JonYeap
post Mar 9 2009, 04:00 PM

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huh? 30kg per side? =.=
thats not a lot bro... thats just normal.
i started gym less than a month and i am carrying 25kg on one side...
i think most of us here can carry more than 30kg per side.
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:34 PM

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izit ? maybe those 10kilos are 20kilos...will check when i see him again
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:56 PM

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erk....30 kg per side + bar is about 70 kgs.... its not that little wei...im doing 50 kgs....

the problem is i think i can handle more weight chest wise.... but my prob is my wrist..
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post Mar 9 2009, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 04:34 PM)
izit ? maybe those 10kilos are 20kilos...will check when i see him again
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Lol,thats also not a lot!

Hey guys,opinions on Elbows-flared pushdown for triceps?

Nobody seems to do this here!
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post Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 04:00 PM)
huh? 30kg per side? =.=
thats not a lot bro... thats just normal.
i started gym less than a month and i am carrying 25kg on one side...
i think most of us here can carry more than 30kg per side.
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If you train long enough, you'll learn that you need to do a warm up set and sometimes you'll need to alternate your weights and reps every week/month. Maybe he's at his low weight high rep phase, or he's just finishing off or warming up his chest with flat BB.

And 25 kg on each side is a lot to a beginner. I've seen beginners starting on 5kg on each side and they are struggling and shaking and need someone to spot for them. So don't say "25kg is not much" because it's discouraging the beginners reading your post.

I remember starting off struggling for 15 kg on each side when I was started lifting for a few months...it took me a year to reach 20kg on each side at 8-12 reps on flat and incline.

QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 9 2009, 04:56 PM)
erk....30 kg per side + bar is about 70 kgs.... its not that little wei...im doing 50 kgs....

the problem is i think i can handle more weight chest wise.... but my prob is my wrist..
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Sometimes when I bench, the weights are so heavy that the pressure of the bar is pressing against my thenar muscles on my hand (the part just before the thumb) and it hurts like shit.

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post Mar 9 2009, 05:59 PM

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i only can do 5-10kg on 1 side. so sad....
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:20 PM

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yea.. ..benches are dangerous also....if ur forearm grip not up to par...hahaha......lets not go there....

im doing a pretty safe set... i can do 10x3 bench press for 5-kgs

and then to dumbell flys....so i think i definitely can do more...
saying that...compared to my bod....my chest is toooo small!!
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:22 PM

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me 5kg on each side already shaking....*blush*

if i use those station gyms and do workout for chest ...will it be as good as bench press??

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QUOTE(Florian @ Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM)
If you train long enough, you'll learn that you need to do a warm up set and sometimes you'll need to alternate your weights and reps every week/month. Maybe he's at his low weight high rep phase, or he's just finishing off or warming up his chest with flat BB.

And 25 kg on each side is a lot to a beginner. I've seen beginners starting on 5kg on each side and they are struggling and shaking and need someone to spot for them. So don't say "25kg is not much" because it's discouraging the beginners reading your post.

I remember starting off struggling for 15 kg on each side when I was started lifting for a few months...it took me a year to reach 20kg on each side at 8-12 reps on flat and incline.
Sometimes when I bench, the weights are so heavy that the pressure of the bar is pressing against my thenar muscles on my hand (the part just before the thumb) and it hurts like shit.
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hmmm... i started off struggling at 10kg per side.
but as days goes by, i begin to adept.
i guess i adepted with the weight pretty fast.
now i am already bench pressing for 2 weeks or so.
20kg without support on each side (bar is 18kg)
with slight support then i can go for 25kg.
i am doing MAX-OT which concentrate on heavy weight 6 reps maximum.
by the way, i am 85kg(big guy).
so i think the bigger u r, the more weight u could possibly get adapted to faster... (generally)
i wouldnt expect a 50kg guy to do the same progress as me... it would kill him.
but i guess i will try 30kg per side by end of the month.


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QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 06:22 PM)
me 5kg on each side already shaking....*blush*

if i use those station gyms and do workout for chest ...will it be as good as bench press??
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smith machine?
its not as good as bench press coz bench press u need stability in both hands.
while on the machine, u can cheat with another hand pushing more.

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post Mar 9 2009, 06:28 PM

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Your progress is fast,it took me 9 months to bench 55kgs per side!
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:29 PM

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aih...guys dun worry about how u are doing in relative to others...

5kg per side or 50kg per side bench......

keep ur form right... try to push ur limits with regard to urself not what others are doing....

eat right.....train hard....im sure progress will follow...
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 06:26 PM)
hmmm... i started off struggling at 10kg per side.
but as days goes by, i begin to adept.
i guess i adepted with the weight pretty fast.
now i am already bench pressing for 2 weeks or so.
20kg without support on each side (bar is 18kg)
with slight support then i can go for 25kg.
i am doing MAX-OT which concentrate on heavy weight 6 reps maximum.
by the way, i am 85kg(big guy).
so i think the bigger u r, the more weight u could possibly get adapted to faster... (generally)
i wouldnt expect a 50kg guy to do the same progress as me... it would kill him.
but i guess i will try 30kg per side by end of the month.


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smith machine?
its not as good as bench press coz bench press u need stability in both hands.
while on the machine, u can cheat with another hand pushing more.
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hmm, yea but i think it's safer for beginners like me tongue.gif

there was once i doing bench press, i kinda lost strength and the bar came down on my chest ..luckily there was another guy in the gym and he helped me to carry it away...*embarassing*
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 9 2009, 06:28 PM)
Your progress is fast,it took me 9 months to bench 55kgs per side!
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55kg per side... =.=
i dont think i will ever think of reaching that... muahhaha... even if it takes a year. =.=
i might stop at 40kg max i guess... thats coz i dont want to torture my ligamen in my elbow.
been damaged for 6 years already.


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QUOTE(jackyjin @ Mar 9 2009, 06:30 PM)
hmm, yea but i think it's safer for beginners like me tongue.gif

there was once i doing bench press, i kinda lost strength and the bar came down on my chest ..luckily there was another guy in the gym and he helped me to carry it away...*embarassing*
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always get someone to support if u know u r doing ur limit weight.
as for now, i am safe with 60kg in total.
but once i reach 70kg weight, i get a person to support.

This post has been edited by JonYeap: Mar 9 2009, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(Florian @ Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM)
If you train long enough, you'll learn that you need to do a warm up set and sometimes you'll need to alternate your weights and reps every week/month. Maybe he's at his low weight high rep phase, or he's just finishing off or warming up his chest with flat BB.

And 25 kg on each side is a lot to a beginner. I've seen beginners starting on 5kg on each side and they are struggling and shaking and need someone to spot for them. So don't say "25kg is not much" because it's discouraging the beginners reading your post.

I remember starting off struggling for 15 kg on each side when I was started lifting for a few months...it took me a year to reach 20kg on each side at 8-12 reps on flat and incline.
Sometimes when I bench, the weights are so heavy that the pressure of the bar is pressing against my thenar muscles on my hand (the part just before the thumb) and it hurts like shit.
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Beginner here. I can only bench 10kg on each side and the pole should be around 10kg. @@"

Guess it takes time huh. laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:46 PM

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It does and patience is a must!

Olympic bar is 18Kgs btw!
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post Mar 9 2009, 07:08 PM

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Mind if i ask whether one's initial weight (untrained, beginner level) have any effect on strength levels? I was sort of obese months ago and could at least struggle 30kg each side, but when i went on a weight losing phase (im 'normal' now) im actually shivering just trying to push 15...(each side) Its really very discouraging sad.gif
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post Mar 9 2009, 07:13 PM

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How did you lose the weight??

Might be due to muscle loss!
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post Mar 9 2009, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(roxxor89 @ Mar 9 2009, 07:08 PM)
Mind if i ask whether one's initial weight (untrained, beginner level) have any effect on strength levels? I was sort of obese months ago and could at least struggle 30kg each side, but when i went on a weight losing phase (im 'normal' now) im actually shivering just trying to push 15...(each side) Its really very discouraging  sad.gif
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i believe weight holds a vital role also.
if lets say 2 person were to be a beginner in bench press;

A: 90kg
B: 60kg

Who do u think would be able to lift heavier weights?
I guess weight does matter in someway or another.
Just my 2 cent... Could be untrue.
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post Mar 9 2009, 08:16 PM

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It does not matter how much weight u train with. Whats important is your level of intensity.
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post Mar 9 2009, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Mar 9 2009, 08:00 PM)
i believe weight holds a vital role also.
if lets say 2 person were to be a beginner in bench press;

A: 90kg
B: 60kg

Who do u think would be able to lift heavier weights?
I guess weight does matter in someway or another.
Just my 2 cent... Could be untrue.
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Erm, not quite true. Not to brag but when me and my friend first started, I'm 67 and he's 80, I benched 20 each side but he could managed 15. He's bigger as well.

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