where is all the goldfish lover come in and let have a talk.

Gold fish uncle spotted



used to have lionheads and ranchus here. but all died due to disease

Hi Lance8431 how long have you been keeping goldfish? you must choose a healthy goldfish before you buy it from the shop. The most important is water quality the water must be clean to keep it away from disease. I m not a pro but if you need help i will give you some information, i need to know the size of the aquarium you use how many fish you keep at that time?

i like gold fish but my bf hates animal. any tips on howto win his heart? he hates animal because he is lazy to take care of the animal. oh!

i have been keeping gold fish at least for 10 years

So what goldfish do you keep?

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Added on August 13, 2007, 8:05 pmSorry can't help you, if your bf hate animal don't share it just keep the goldfish for yourself.

This post has been edited by kent kt: Aug 13 2007, 08:05 PM

Get him the cat from SHrek 3. Who can deny such a cute lil kitty? ^ ^

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Added on August 14, 2007, 1:30 amOne thing i learned from my primary teacher. GOldfish must live in clean water, but not too clean. And cannot live intoo dirty water.... IT's like not too clean and not too dirty environment..... IM not shure but is my teacher lying? wakkakakkaa

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Added on August 14, 2007, 1:31 amIf anyone can, can verify for me the environment thingy?

This post has been edited by guyson: Aug 14 2007, 01:31 AM

Goldfish need a very clean water to survive and free from disease clean water means water is not cloudy or smelly water but of course can still find dirt floating in water and you don't need to change all the water to get a clean water all the time.

changing water once a week should be sufficient

changing 20% to 25% of water every week is good, so how many goldfish do you keep? what type of goldfish do you keep?

i've been into fish 7 years already..guppy,discus,goldfish all kept b4..now start again with goldfish..
currently having,short tail ryukin,black oranda,normal oranda,crown pearscale..black butterfly..

Wow so many goldfish what size of tank you use? All this goldfish must very expensive one.

my tank is 2.5 feet..using canister filter..weekly 80% water change..feed twice daily with hikari gold..

My tank is 4 feet using wet dry filter with 5 goldfish, weekly 25% water change and feeding 3 times a day with astro spirulina and shrimp. Not yet feed with Hikari gold but going to try one day.

u try feeding them blood worms b4?

No not yet, anything different? Everyday i feeds with a high protein foods. Until now still healthy and no disease.

Hi there, yet another goldfish lover here of just 8 months!

I have a 4X2 sized pool with 10" of depth with 8 occupant of mostly Ranchus and 2 Ryukins. One ranchu died 2 months ago.

It's kept in my semi-outdoor courtyard and is using UV filters to keep the water from turning green!

I have a question:
I had a 1 inch long 'bandaraya' which has grown larger (4") than the main occupants.
Recently i have discovered that it'll hunt down a particular goldfish. At first i thought it was just 'extra' active. That particular ranchu then developed a rash on it's body. I then exchanged the 4 inch long 'bandaraya' for a 1 inch long infant and asked the aquarium shop owner regarding how to heal my ranchu.

He recommend me a sachet of yellow pellets which i then poured a little to my pond. It turned green. According to him, the scales of my ranchu will be ok within the next day!

My ranchu which died 2 months ago have also develop the same symptoms. Later the skin seems to rot and i separated it onto another tank. It was alive but motionless (even when it was in the main pool).

Have you guys got any other opinion? Tks

This post has been edited by rubicube: Aug 22 2007, 03:27 PM

i had 9 goldfish

as i remember orande
butterfly tail
& few more

haha
one very funny de the eyes like guys de

I think the rash is cause by your 'bandaraya' this fish suck your goldfish body until the scales coming off sometime up to flesh, so when there is no scale proctection the goldfish can be easily affected by all sort of bacteria.

Usually this affected area need a lot of care and time, the affected area must be treated clean with special antibiotic and medicine, although you are using a uv filter but there is still a bacteria not all bacteria can be destroys.

tks kent kt,

Any antibiotics to recommend?

Need I separate the 'sick' goldfish from the healthy ones?

Currently, i separated the small 'bandaraya' just in case.

goldfish has a short life span right.. also hard to keep

Better ask your LFS for antibiotics and how to use the antibiotics.

After these few days, I have poured 2 out of 4 servings of the yellowish stuff i mentioned earlier in my post. The result is that the injured ranchu has recovered in terms of the reddish blood on it's body. However, one side of it's body (the rear) still has this scales jutting out a little (like 45 degree spikes).

I am still separating the 'bandaraya' from the pond!

What do you use for keeping a goldfish, fishbowl or small tank, with or without filter, a good quality of water will keep the goldfish healthy most of the time plus weekly water changes. Must know how to choose a healthy goldfish in the shop before you buy. Goldfish have a very long lifespan if you can maintain a good quality water.

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Added on August 29, 2007, 11:50 amIs your goldfish swim around or eat food? better be careful with this 'bandaraya' bacause some 'bandaraya' got 3 spike on the body and sometime will injured your goldfish.

This post has been edited by kent kt: Aug 29 2007, 11:50 AM

Yes, the rachu is swimming well and eating food all this time.

Luckily i removed the 'bandaraya' earlier.

Than this should be a good sign of recovery but make sure the fish is totally recover than putting it back to the main tank. So what are you going to do with 'bandaraya' this fish will later injure other fish again.

bandaraya fish especially when pregnant they will be fierce & they will injured other fish as well

The initial injury was done by the larger 'bandaraya', which was larger than the goldfish. The smaller one just continue to add injury. I think after the fish is cured 100%, i'll put the small 'bandaraya' back in. (er, Is there a name for the 'bandaraya'?)

Wow, bebee i haven't seen any bandaraya pregnant what it's look like?

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Added on August 31, 2007, 8:05 pmMostly ppl call 'bandaraya' don't know what is the real name.

This post has been edited by kent kt: Aug 31 2007, 08:05 PM

when small i always like to keep gold fish as pet.. but don know why they so easily die lar... die till i finally give up

i remember when i was young the bandaraya attack my sis when she is cleaning the aquarium
the bandaraya fish always stay at the sand there
every fish tat pass by also kena attack den my mum have a look after it attacked my sis hand
n say the bandaraya got baby thats why so firce

Yawhong,
Welcome to our goldfish lover place, So now you don't have any goldfish lah, can you tell me why are your goldfish died? there should be a disease or a bad water quallity make your goldfish fall sick lo. So are you going to keep a goldfish again?

Actually to keep a goldfish you must know a few thing, goldfish love to stay in clean water,big fish tank because they grown very fast but don't over crowded the tank, need a lot of O2 and time. Every week you will need time to change some water from the tank and try to look for disease on goldfish body.

Because you just tell me your goldfish die only, there should be some other thing that make your goldfish die, you not mention it here, so i can't help you very much.If you need some advice or help to setup a goldfish tank, just tell me i will try to help you.

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Added on September 3, 2007, 11:50 amIf there is bandaraya inside my aquarium i won't put my hand inside the aquarium, this bandaraya is so ugly, normally i use net to catch the bandaraya and put it inside the bucket than only i start to clean my aquariums.

This post has been edited by kent kt: Sep 3 2007, 11:50 AM

My goldfish i mentioned earlier died 2 days ago. To my suprise, it looks as though it has recovered. it was swimming ok and eating ok.

It just stayed motionless 2 days ago, and confirmed dead looking at the gills which were not moving at all.

I guess the scales were not cured and thus had infection. However, in my earlier postings, the redness dissapeared and i thought it was recovering!

In my 9 months, 2 goldfish died! Now left 7.



This post has been edited by rubicube: Sep 6 2007, 11:09 AM

That's the problem we facing everytime went ours goldfish get injured, we don't know what going to happened next, sometime it was so sad to lost even one of the goldfish.

Last month one of my oranda died without knowing what the problem, it was sudden death, can see the goldfish slowly motionless and the gills stop pumping.

That why now in my tank i don't put sand or stone because if you put all this thing inside the tank all the dirt,unfinished food everything get stuck inside there so the next thing i will get water quality problem, So to make it easy for maintenance i keep away all those sand and stone thing.

Not so bad 9 months, 2 goldfish died, when my goldfish died it was my 2nd month hopefully no more goldfish will died.

can i know how long is the gold fish life span???

wit a aquarium about 2 and half feet, i pun kaloi, sepat, bandaraya n little fish like gold fish inside. the kali fish very garang n always kejar my like gold fish. hahaha...

i also don know what really happen.. i do change water quite frequent, have a big tank for few goldfish.. don know why always die... now i just keep 2 golden fish in a small tank.. i hope it is much more easy for me to take care.. i think should learn from take care just 2 gold fish instead of whole tank.. learn from begin gua...

actually goldfish has long life span.

the thing is a lot of people don't know that for single goldfish, the optimum tank size is a 2ft tank. yes, 2ft tank for a single goldfish alone.

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Added on September 8, 2007, 1:19 amthat's not the way to do it.

keep your goldfish to itself. and goldfish IS NOT a small fish.

the adult goldfish is bigger than a person's palm. if you consider the mass, the fella is HUGE cos say a 1ft tilapia, sure it's 12in in length, probably 6in in height but only 1in in width.

a goldfish on the other hand is a huge mass. a single adult goldfish has a mass that's more than 30 guppies, not surprisingly rivaling a fellow adult sized cichlid.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Sep 8 2007, 01:19 AM

Just change 20 to 25% of water weekly, not all the water. What type of filter you use? because goldfish are good eater so you need a good filter to clean the water. I use a 4 feet tank with a trickle filter and keep 6 goldfish, so far no problem. Just change water weekly.

i also don know what type.. just small 1 cause just for 2 goldfish... ya the water should use clean water rite? i don dare use paip water..

I use overnight paip water, add some nutrafin water conditioner that all. As long as you get a clear and clean water from the filter it is a good filter. Don't change the whole tank of water unless you got a problem with water quality.

I use Nutrafin, Biozyme formula50, Salt stress reliever, and a few drops of LIFE bearer (gill flukes, body flukes, fish lice-parasite killer) after each 'refill'.

BTW how do we calculate/convert gallons to litres?

I think you can check this website for a convertion calculator.
http://www.goldfishinfo.com

ya.. now i really careful d, but how you know the water got problem or not?

Hahaha..i'm also don't know if the water got problem, but one thing i know is the goldfish will tell you, so if your goldfish stop swimming or makan etc. look around your goldfish body if you can find any parasite on the goldfish body.

A healthy goldfish is very active and will swim around looking for food for the whole day, sometime water temperature will also make the goldfish stop swimming around, must check everything if your goldfish stop swimming etc.

the problem with us human is we count by quantity.

did you know that 2 goldfish produces a lot of waste? go by total body mass, not by # of fish in the tank.

1 small goldfish is like ~9 guppies already.

OK got it (however from another web page- the one you posted is very good as well, very informative..tks)

1 gallon is 3.8 ltrs

As for my 4(L)X2(W)X1(D) is equivalent to 50gallons x 3.8 = 190ltrs

Since i fill up my tank 11in deep instead of 12in (1ft) = 45gallons x 3.8 = 171ltrs

This is to help me to put the exact amount conditioners etc. needed!

How is your goldfish? Are setting up a new tank?

really? erm than i should consider a new aquarium dy...

Not at the moment. Still have 7 goldfish!

i just did a 80% clean up last Sunday. The pebbles at the bed are clean now. Most reddish faeces has been pump out.

This is my 1st time doing a major overhaul to my planted tank since starting 9mths ago!

I use a 20gallons for one goldfish rule. So my four feet tank can keep six goldfish only lo because of goldfish body shape the stomach is small very compact, so food will be digest very fast also lo.

What size of tank you use now? For goldfish go bigger tank.

i have a question.....
the gold fish--> ranchu, which is usually bought back very small in size.....
how big can they grow??

You can check at this website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranchu
http://www.youtube.com and search for Ranchu

What is the proper way to rare gold fish? Me, my relatives and friends all of us used to rare gold fishes, after few months all dead.

1) Must know how to choose good healthy goldfish from the shop if not later will face with sick goldfish.

2) The tank must be properly set up before buying a goldfish, one week or two week earlier.

3) Cycling the tank the Most Important thing, if not proper cycling you will face with high ammonia and nitrate level this will kill your goldfish.

4) Each goldfish need 20 gallons of water, so must use big tank.

5) Good fish food that will not cloud the water.

6) Goldfish tank need a powerful filter to clean the water.

7) Weekly maintenance 25% water change.

Thanks for the great advice, but how do I choose a good healthy goldfish? Different color?

Haha, to choose a good healthy goldfish need experience, by looking at the body look for injury,any spot,any sticking thing on the body. Mostly healthy goldfish will swim around happily.

But most of the time I see gold fish stay at one corner floating only.

You pick the fat one or...?

How long can gold fishes live? Can't be 5 years right? Let me guess, 3 years at most?

Goldfish can live longer than that if proper enviroment is achieve, there is a lot of sign shown by goldfish floating like not enough O2, dirty water etc.

I see, so far I only come across 3 different colors of gold fishes, orange, white + red, and black. I heard gold fish got something to do with feng shui or luck too, something like Arowana. What do you think? Is this true?

if u have also read the Aro's thread ......u should have read what i wrote before
those fish can only bring good fortune for the one who selling them
cause they usually sell the fish quite expensive especially Arowana

don't u agree??

hhahahhahah nice one!

anyways zeist, i salute you for wanting to know more about potential pets b4 buying them... but in this case google will be a better and faster option

Good fortune or Not good fortune, feng shui or what ever it is, it is a hobby, i'm still need to work everyday for money. Do you think if you got good feng shui and good fortune but not working will money come to look for you? Hahaha.....

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Added on September 18, 2007, 11:47 amSome ppl pay for expensive pet because they think expensive pet that offer in the shop can live happily in their care/house but fortunately thing goes difference way. So whether the pet is expensive or cheap the most important thing is we ourself must be very prepare before buying a pets.

This post has been edited by kent kt: Sep 18 2007, 11:47 AM

yup!
therefore i agree with u 100%

I got my own sweet and sad exp with my goldfishes
but im defeated 10-0 (non alive now)

I dont get a chance to rare anything during school days coz i've to concentrate on studies and coco. But after my SPM, i go for 2 lovely betta fishes(gave to my cousin coz my mom dont like betta)

After with 2 mth of exp, i spent my part time salary for a 2.5 ft pool and 3 GOLDFISH; Orange Oranda, RedCap Oranda and "PingPong" Pearlscale. All of them is so cute >.< . But within 1 week, 2 K.0..ed ! reason? nvr put anti-chlorine =____+.

Then i bought 2 more PingPong (coz they are too cute) and a BubbleEye ....
Some dead within 6 mths and I look up for few more other species.

My 3 long live goldfish is Ryunkin (3.5"B + 3"T) Ranchu(4") and Eyeless PingPong(this fella able to live for a year wo a pair of eyes ... im sad)

After i came down to MMU, pass all my child to my cousin ... haih TT____TT

But after all, i still planning to over again with goldfish after i graduate .
Cute and Fun ^______^

very good story!
u have show ur faith for ur goldfish

Waaa, only the seller get good fortune? This myth real or not?

Others also want 'ONG' mar.

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Added on September 18, 2007, 7:39 pmI know a little only not much, because my dad used to have a big 4 feet tank. He rare 2 Kaloi last time. After the 2 Kalois died, my dad bought 20+ goldfish, all seen floating upside down after few months.



This post has been edited by zeist: Sep 18 2007, 07:39 PM

To keep 20+ goldfish you need a 400+ gallons tank because each goldfish need 20 gallons of water. Floating upside down because not enough of O2, or swim bleeder disease, air trap in the blader.

ic........
but i think mostly the businessman will think that kind of idea........

Anyone using UV filter for goldfish? Need some reviews coz I wanna add it to my exiting wet and dry filter system. Normally how much would it cost.

Thx.

Before I setting up my goldfish tank i'm thinking of using UV filter for my goldfish tank also but after setting up everything and run the tank for four month plus without using UV filter everything found to be running quite well no disease,not losing any fish, only the water got a little bit of golden green colour.

There are two type UV filter in the market,
1) The external canister filter with build in UV light.
2) The UV light only, just connect it to the filter pump.
The cost will be base on brand and watts. The higher the watts and of course the costly it will be.

I am using the UV filter! Using it because my pond is in the courtyard.

The UV filter is suppose to keep the water from turning 'green'!

Bought it from Pet's Wonderland at Ikano Power Centre for RM800+-.

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Added on September 24, 2007, 10:26 pmAny recommendation of brand and where to buy stabilizing salts/stress relievers salts! The brand i'm using quite expensive for a 2kg at RM25.50.

Just bought a 1kg china brand for RM6 today!

This post has been edited by rubicube: Sep 24 2007, 10:26 PM

Just for sharing...

one of thousands who is proud to be a goldfish lover here...
errr.. anyone knows how to make goldfish live longer bcoz AFAIK, goldfish suffers worst lifespan than other fishes.
do it totally depends on handling?

How long usually they live?

well, a few years during my secondary school days. Initially total noob at the fish, but after rear 1-2 year and look at the fishes + bought some cheap china book from book fair (but surpricingly very informative ) bout gold fish knows quite stuff la. ranchu's my favorite, then come to red heads and lionheads. but i make a big mistake tat time for crowding my tank with lotsa fishes, maybe stress up la

But in the end i end up keep only gold fishes, but after form 6 go kl study dee so my family take care of them, maybe dunno how to handle die liew, now only keep parrot fish.

hie bebee you oso got gold fish ar



Goldfish cruelty spotted
i used to do that as well but separated all the aggresive fish to other tanks, like a tank of heaven and a tank of hell

Lifespan for goldfish is depend on well you taking care of it.

thank you coz i saw bebee claiming his goldfish is 10 year...
i still feel kinda bad feeling that i wuz the reason the fish dies..

If this is a tank in the fish fish shop it is ok, if otherwise then it will be a problem to maintain the tank. Overpopulated tank.

Those ranchus are cute!hehe..
My fish all i left in kl for 2 weeks,with just holiday food and clean water..
Will be going back this fri,wonder are they still alive or i need to be their undertaker..

There's a device where it uses a timer to release food to your fish. I saw that in Pet's Wonderland on Ikano! Should be handy while you are away!

Hopefully your fish still ok, my one got problem already after Raya holiday for 4 days.

Had a stressed goldfish today. I think I put too much salt after a backwash refill.
The fish was just hiding itself in one place and hardly moved. Check the fish throughly and there was no sign of infection.

I removed a quarter tank of water and put 'new' tap water plus stress reliever (Nutrafin). After awhile, all my 7 fishes were active plus the stressed one gasping for food. I thought I solved the problem.

Now, the 'stressed' fish still stays still in one place at the bottom? Any advice?



This post has been edited by rubicube: Nov 26 2007, 10:47 PM

How come I can't see this post in Pet Wonderland?

Ok prolly due to server down.

During the weekend I did a water change 80%. After the water change I think I added too much salt. One of my Ranchus seems to just hide itself at the bottom and seldom moved. Using kentkt's link (thanks again), I managed to find out that I added too much salt and caused the ranchu to 'stress'.

So I remove 20% water and refilled with just tap water and added Nutrafin. The next morning, all fish NORMAL! Thank god!

This post has been edited by rubicube: Nov 28 2007, 09:49 PM

Hi All,

Anyone can share with me at KL where can buy those small / baby ranchu? Typically ranchu quite expensive, while I have budget, so looking for nice small/baby ranchu :-)

Anyone can recommend?

Thanks first.

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This post has been edited by Namgor2006: Dec 15 2007, 10:06 PM

hello everyone

seeking for help here.here attached the pictures of my goldfish.can anyone tell me what is the white white things at the dorsal fin?

nothing seems to going wrong with the fish.still swim healthily and doesnt look like the white stuff affect it

thanks


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It just like a wound,no more scale,when it's happening?

Help, my gold fish keep on dying.. what happen? 1st i tot bcause i din fed them enuf, then i feed them 1 day 3 times also same.. they just keep on dying like the happening movie.. help me pls.. now another one seem like almost dying and very tired.. argh.. im stress..

Just wondering, what is the lifespan of goldfishes?

Depends on where you keep them and how is the water condition! Food is secondary and they often behaves like the master starve them!

I keep my goldfish in my courtyard and besides using a UV filter, I use these items Nutrafin, Biozyme formula50, Salt stress reliever, and a few drops of LIFE bearer (gill flukes, body flukes, fish lice-parasite killer) after each 'refill/top-up' or water change. Nowadays I am quite lazy and have since changed water every 3 months. Notforgetting having a 'bandaraya' which I always return to the shop for a smaller sized one every 3-4months.

I had 9 goldfishes since Oct 2006 and now after close to 2 years, left only 6. The 3 that died (different time) had some skin disease on them and that made the 'bandaraya' attacked them.

Holy moly.. i lost all of them.. now no confidence in fish d.. so sad.. i feel guilty, kill all of them.. i change the water once a week, feeding them twice a day.. dunno why still die..

used to have many gold fish last time...but always die due to no electricity (very common 10 years back in KL)...so decided not to rear any now, feel so pity to them...

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