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Wireless Broadband ★★DiGi 3G Broadband Thread★★, Broadband done right

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post Aug 6 2009, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Aug 5 2009, 02:17 PM)
Ditto... truth is, it is really hard. This is the 70% rule in the management field of study. 70% of subscribed speed 70% of the time. If we're not mistaken, the average of 700kbps is actually 70% of the 'market standard' speed of 1Mbps. Problem is, nothing is mention of a ceiling speed of 1Mbps. biggrin.gif So that 70% can be from anything? (not sure).

They use such terms like 'average', 70% rule, etc for marketing reasons and it is something new in the market. Most probably from the ITSMS ISO 20000:2005 IT Service Quality handbook. By the way, it is a good thing if they follow such standards.
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yes, if Digi can follow these standards than definitely it's a win-win to both Digi and us... again, may be Digi personnel can give an answer of what the 70% meant...

Looks like the speed is not consistent in last few days... I think it's time for Digi to provide us an explanation on this so that all of us wouldn't think that it's due to the increase of subscribers which potentially stop new user to subscribe.

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btw, my speed is back to normal now...
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QUOTE(Lucinda_cy @ Aug 6 2009, 09:30 PM)
FYI...

Just found something "new" on DiGi Broadband web... FUP seems to really apply to the service now....haiz..... i am a usual downloader (everyday) also, bad news for me, i am pre launch package...  sad.gif .... now i m letting go P2P at after 6pm (the speed is really killing until midnight, only half of the normal speed).... haaa.... i will on my pc before sleep and let it download till morning when i wake up.... i tried b4, after 3am is the speed is tremendously fast...... for all the telcos is saving bandwidth these days, very missed the pre launch time whereby not everybody knows about DiGi Broadband.....  blush.gif  icon_question.gif i want my speed back!!!

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Personally, i feel FUP is good for overall customer... but, how slow is your speed?


Added on August 7, 2009, 7:41 am
QUOTE(Shinichi @ Aug 6 2009, 11:14 PM)
Hi all, for Discover Campus Plan, are those who below 25 but working eligible for this package?
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If i remember correctly, the answer is NO... that is what the Campus means... better check with Digi


Added on August 7, 2009, 7:43 am
QUOTE(aliqueamyrei @ Aug 6 2009, 10:45 PM)
so slow...damn slow..-______________________________________________-!!
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i think there are something wrong in Peninsular... coz when i did speedtest last night, it traced that i'm from Sabah... instead of Kuala Lumpur (all the while it's from KL).

Digi, any update on recent slowness issue?

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QUOTE(electron @ Aug 7 2009, 01:16 PM)
hi, anyone know what is the monthly fee for the Explore package that comes with the HP mini that is currently being offered for the PC Fair promo?
thanks.

as for the slow down yesterday, i wonder is it anything to do with the gateway or main backbone (TMNet owns this right)?
this is because even my company's corporate line is very slow at around 6.30 when i tried to download a driver. I got around 7-8 kbps compared to 6-7 Mbps this morning
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If i'm correct, it should be RM138 for 24 months (HP Mini package with Explore package) and for 16GB limit.
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QUOTE(stuffx @ Aug 8 2009, 04:04 PM)
i got the same error when i tried to use the password reset option.. if i tried to login by using my current password the system will state that it's invalid even though it's correct
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Pls try to wait for a few working days (~ 4 working days) if still can not registered in OCS, then give Digi a call and they will follow up the issue for you n will call u to confirm when everything is done... at least this is my own experience.


Added on August 8, 2009, 4:27 pm
QUOTE(ffnbnj @ Aug 8 2009, 12:33 PM)
jz received my bill, i want to ask what is stamp duty? and why is digi charging me rm15 for modem although i am on explore (rm108) package in which the modem shd be free?
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what is your final bill amount? RM118 or RM133? For the first bill, there will be a RM10 stamp duty which is for the agreement of the service (this goes into government pocket)...



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QUOTE(momusu @ Aug 8 2009, 04:31 PM)
i'm on discover plan, but i may have downloaded more than 7gb of data.
and the limit is 3gb/mth,  so i need to pay rm138? coz it says usage is capped at rm138/mth.
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yes, you're right. According to Digi webpage, the max you need to pay for Discover & Explore package is RM138. However, somebody said Digi didn't really charge it for this point of time... but, need somebody to confirm this. Personally, I haven't paid extra thus far but i'm just a light user...


Added on August 9, 2009, 3:38 pm
QUOTE(sanderz @ Aug 9 2009, 10:37 AM)
i m using DiGi Discover Package. Download speed only average 20Kbps, with a montly fee of RM58? my friend use the WiMAX lite Package download speed can upto 60Kbps with a montly fee of RM49... i think i choose WiMAX will be more worth than using DiGi broadband. but DiGi broadband also got the advantage lah... eg: its easy to carry around.
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if your area is covered by HSDPA, then you should NOT get such a slow speed... I can get 1Mbps easily with my Discover package... Personally, I feel Digi Broadband is better than WiMAX (as davidmak mentioned before)... at least u still can online when there is no HSDPA coverage... EDGE is enough for normal surfing whereas with WiMAX, you can't do anything when you're out of WiMAX coverage

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Aug 19 2009, 12:09 AM)
Hmm.. sounds very very misleading. The 3.6Mbps theoretical speed is actually the maximum capable speed of the E160E USB modem. But the service is capped at 1Mbps. How we know its 1Mbps? Thats because this is the market expectation paying at such a price point. But Digi quote likely average speed which is 700kbps. That was the common understanding discussed and established over here few weeks ago. Discover and Explore users only capable to a maximum download speed of 1Mbps. Extreme users 2Mbps and up.

Unless, Digi has expanded their service to allow Discover/Explore users to 3.6Mbps maximum then its a different story. That will put Digi on the same competitive advantage with Celcom and Maxis. Celcom and Maxis allow their users up to 3.6Mbps also... but that depends on the time of the day and location.

So until Digi representatives here explain.. the 3.6Mbps theoretical speed can mean anything: Maximum speed capable by the USB modem or maximum download speed allowed on the internet plan (meaning no longer capped at 1Mbps).

OR maybe Digi is trying to justify and explain to curious users who ask why is their USB modem showing the connected speed in Windows XP, Vista, etc 3.6Mbps. This is link speed and is similar to connecting to LAN ethernet network where it will report 10/100/1000Mbps but ultimate the speed depends on the downlink from Digi. Basically going back to our internet subscription plan.

So these are the current situation.
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Yes, i ditto what is said by Davidmak... we should not confuse ourselves with the theoretical speed... if we got 1Mbps with Discover/Explore, it's kind of bonus already... dun forget that when we subscribe the package, we've been told about this 700kbps LAS (likely average speed)... anything more than 700kbps, it's considered bonus...

To me, i'd rather to have a consistent speed than the up and down (like roller coaster service)...

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 19 2009, 02:18 PM)
i got another questions on the capping calculations:

Discover - RM58 - capped 3GB
Explore - RM108 - capped 10GB

for both, if i use more, it'll be RM0.05/10MB .. .but capped at RM138.

so, my question is: Does this capped amount at RM138 inclusive of the monthly fee (RM58/108)?
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the answer is yes... which mean the max bill you need to pay per month for discover/explore is RM138.
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QUOTE(momusu @ Aug 20 2009, 08:36 AM)
about billing, just checked with the ocs.
i'm on discover with modem rental

My bill:

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I Paid RM100 during registration.
Activation Date: 14/7/2009
Question:
-is the RM79.26 for july-august period or august-sept period?

- do i need to pay anything?
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No, you don't have to pay anything for your august bill... this is for 14-Jul - 12 of Aug.

Here is how u get the RM79.26
Modem rental = RM15
Stamp duty= RM10
Pro-rated Access = RM54.26

Total = RM79.26

There is still balance of RM20.74 in your account which will carry forward to next month.

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QUOTE(rayz91 @ Aug 20 2009, 03:48 PM)
Current Balance (RM) as of 19-08-2009 
-78.40

What does it mean by current balance? can anyone explain to me?
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you paid advance during registration and the advance will be used for first month bill (or second or third month if you still have balance). So, this is just shown there is balance left over after your first month bill...

Pls wait for few more days for the detail of your current bill...
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QUOTE(darksider @ Aug 21 2009, 02:38 PM)
I got charged rm133 for the first month... now my balance is rm 33... so must I pay this?
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Yes, unless you still have balance in your account...
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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Aug 23 2009, 08:31 AM)
Why my current charges only RM34.32?? I subscribe to discover d'campus(something like that). Monthly fee shd be RM58, free modem. Anyone can count for me?? Lolz. Current balance is -65.68.
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is this your first monthly bill? The access fee is prorated for first month bill...


Added on August 23, 2009, 8:26 pm
QUOTE(davidmak @ Aug 23 2009, 12:24 AM)
If not mistaken, I remember someone saying the routing is 'suspicious' because we're routed to East Malaysia for some reason.
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Yes, i had similar issue before... also routed to East Malaysia last time...

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QUOTE(twenty6 @ Aug 24 2009, 09:57 PM)
guys, just wanna check..does DG has that package where if we get a 2nd sim we are entitled for a lower price just like edge? tot of getting another sim for my wife  smile.gif
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Currently, there is no multi-sim package from Digi... only Discover, Explore and Extreme.


Added on August 25, 2009, 8:47 am
QUOTE(gwsallen @ Aug 25 2009, 01:23 AM)
anyone here migrated from celcom?
im using celcom now living 12-storey above sea-level and having difficulty to connect celcom @ 3.6M or even 384k is impossible.
this is my first RM20 celcom prepaid bb going down the drain.
i have no problem when i work on ground but not on 12 floor.
any input would be much appreciated...
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Somebody has tried Digi BB at 20th floor without any issue...


Added on August 25, 2009, 8:48 am
QUOTE(oumind @ Aug 25 2009, 03:30 AM)
Is this subforum sponsored by Digi?
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yes... this is what i know so far...

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Digi BB is doing a promotion in Queensbay PG now... RM78 for Explore package (free modem)... the booth is near McDonald (LG floor).

Note: RM78 for first year only... no extra charges after 10GB but speed will be throttled to EDGE only. Hence, they claim it as unlimited... Remember, it's not a true unlimited (LYA 700kbps unlimited), it's unlimited browsing with throttle speed...

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QUOTE(momusu @ Aug 29 2009, 05:31 PM)
just got my august bill through the mail.

oddly enough, the bill on ocs includes additional page stating my bandwidth usage, but on the mailed bill, it wasnt included!!

I used up 9.84GB while on Discover package. only RM 70+ excluding rental n stamp duty.

i though they'd till max RM138???? if use above 3gb???

And the bill generated by the OCS will have the bandwidth usage, but not the mailed one. Yours the same or they missed out on mine?
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that's normal... e-bill has all the detail of the usage even you're not subscribed to it... hard copy will just give u a summary.

btw, how much is your total bill? The max for broadband usage should be RM138. RM70+ for 9.84G is a bit weird but that's lower than what it should be... i think Digi is upgrading it's billing system as there is a lot of feedbacks about the extra charges after the limit... let's wait and see what Digi is going to surprise us again...

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QUOTE(laststep @ Sep 2 2009, 01:37 PM)
Hi, about the Rm78 explore promotion, somebody told me that the usage is unlimited. That means no 10G quote apply and you will receive  700Kb speed all the time. But after 1 year, the 10G quote will be effective again. Is that true?
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unlimited here means unlimited browsing... not unlimited bandwidth. after 10G, you can still browse with slower speed... (this is so called unlimited browsing)
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QUOTE(MoNzAi @ Sep 3 2009, 02:34 AM)
My customer hv signed DG Extreme package and he also exceed the usage limit and so far he still nvr face the cut down speed problem, maybe it is becoz Extreme package use different network system from explore and discover, extreme package is HSUPA network while exp/dis is using HSDPA
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Digi is using HSPA protocol as its network backbone. All discover, explore and extreme package should use the same backbone. HSPA comprises of HSDPA (down link) and HSUPA (uplink), so the issue of extreme package uses HSUPA while explore & discover package use HSDPA should not exist...


Added on September 3, 2009, 7:54 am
QUOTE(laststep @ Sep 2 2009, 03:53 PM)
As long as i can still have edge speed after cap i am happy.
But from DIGI FAQ

Q17.   What is the usage limit for these broadband packages?

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      A17.  -  The Discover package comes with a data quota/usage limit of 3GB. Usage beyond 3GB will be charged at 15sen/10MB and will be capped at a maximum of RM138/month.
      -  The Explore package comes with a data quota/usage limit of 10GB. Usage beyond 10GB will be charged at 5sen/10MB and will be capped at a maximum of RM138/month.
      -  The Extreme package comes with a data quota/usage limit of 20GB. Usage beyond 20GB will be free although the speed will be throttled to 128kbps.

with 128Kb speed, i think we can't do anything not even google...
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My personal opinion is Digi will never cap you at 128kbps... that's the minimum you can get after being throttled. Look at what we got for discover & explore packages, despite of LAS says 700kbps, we can get 1Mbps easily.


Added on September 3, 2009, 8:04 am
QUOTE(laststep @ Sep 2 2009, 01:59 PM)
Look like the salesman is cheating the customer to get the deal....
So after the 10G quote, what speed will i degrade to?
128Kb? 284Kb?
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That's why you need to double confirm when you hear this kind of statement from a salesman. The same tactic has been used by other ISP as well... Do remember that for normal packages that available in the market, there is no unlimited bandwidth package in the market yet... unless you explicitly subscribe to those really unlimited package (which cost a lot more than normal package). Per my understanding, the only unlimited bandwidth package from Digi is EDGE @ RM66 per month.

So far, from what i know, Streamyx is the only one that provide unlimited bandwidth (note: for normal packages)... i'm not sure about other ISP, e.g Jaring, etc (but, this is out of topic here).

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QUOTE(aneip @ Sep 4 2009, 10:08 AM)
For student promo, RM58 one.. if over 3gb, still need to pay for additional usage up to 138?

I really prefer capped speed rather than additional usage charges..
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As far as i know, there is no additional charges for student RM58 package... it'll be throttled when the quota is over.

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QUOTE(vista enthusiasist @ Sep 6 2009, 11:33 AM)
Does digi broadband has trial?I scare i'm not satisfied with the performance.
Any digi broadband users in Sungai Ara, Penang here how's the speed and stability?
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As far as i know, Sungai Ara, Penang has no Digi BB... only EDGE is available... but, that was on last month when i checked...
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QUOTE(laststep @ Sep 7 2009, 07:54 AM)
Yes, Relau,Penang BB user here. Just sign up last week. I am very satisfied with the broadband speed and low latency!! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Good to hear that Digi is well expanding... just within 1 month, it's expanded to Sg Ara/Relau... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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