HAHA.....AS EXPECTED, THE NUMBER OF FARMERS WHO IS BUILDING THEIR OWN STANDALONE FARMS NOW ARE FAVORING RELOCATION...

AND THE NUMBER IS INCREASING....

SO, WHAT CAN WE DO??.....KILL THEM ALL....RIGHT??.....

NO NO....dont be ashamed to think liked that.

We are doing business here, when the competition is tense, most businessman will try to kill off their competitors. Nothing ashamed on that!!!..

All standalone farmers who are suffering now do think liked that, 100%, to wait for town farms to shut down and grab all the birds for free. (except those who own standalone n shoplot). These small groups of farmers are building their standalone farms but they rely on their shop farms to survived. and they all knows that standalone farms result are much slower than shop farms.

Most of the eco park are also build near to town....how long to wait before it is next to a new township??...u know i know.

Most of the standalone farms too build near to town....how long to wait before the next lot is a new township??...u know i know....

it is not long....not long enough for you to reap the actual profit....

some of us may be bless that at least if anything happen, we might be able to recover our losses...but how many actually can do that....how many percent??

and how many abandoned shops will again been abandoned??

and how many shops in town that will be abandoned??

i will not waste my time talk koks here....harvest kow kow is utmost important for my family. nothing else.

but when the war come, i will fight kow kow too....


Good bye.

Well.....I liked this quotes.....


[You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abraham Lincoln[/B]



And hopefully, this time they will set alarm to wake them up to go voting!!....

This post has been edited by ChanK: Apr 7 2009, 04:27 PM

WAO!!!...

Iban peoples are more clever and brilliant than i thought.....

this is only a small reelection, if PK really win this one...they will have 3 yrs to suffer...n giving them higher winning tickets is still a better strategy...

next round, PK should send in carlsberg, tiger two days before the election!!!...then, they will not be so mabuk on the voting day!!..


joking loh!!....

YEAH!!!! BN MEnang!!!

We support NAJIB!!!!....YEAH!!!.......NAJIB THe best!!!!!



... hhehe...Very `Yin Sat' ahh!!!.....



Wait for next round.....not so fast.....one shot hentam kuat kuat!!!!.....

This post has been edited by ChanK: Apr 7 2009, 08:08 PM

Yes. Agreed.

Hopefully Our PM will do the right thing this time, we, ordinary citizens do not care who is our CEO, as long as he do his job right, we are OK.

until now, he only mentioned that he will support this industry as there are many potential land in coastal area that will ALLOW bumiputra to get involve in this industry...so hopefully, he will gives his approval to legalize town farms.

Good!!!....Good News....

Hopefully, Vet dept. is on farmers side...

ai ya......U think they don't meh??

they more clever than us!!!...

They want money only mah!!! kepala makan kua kua, tak mungkin kakitangan tak mau makan, kan??....

Why they do that...to confisticate bird's nests and stop everyone from exporting/bring out bird's nests??

THEY WANT YOU TO APPLY LICENSE!!!

WITH THE LICENSE, THEY WILL HAVE A RECORD :

1) APPLICANT NAME AND DETAILS

2) QTY OF BIRD'S NESTS

FROM THERE, THEY WILL HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF WHO IS EXPORTING BN!!!

WITH THAT RECORD, THEY CAN SQUEEZE YOUR BALLS TIGHT TIGHT....

INCOME MAN WILL KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR....SELAMAT PAGI ENCIK.....PAGI INI SUDAH PERGI KUTIP SARANG?? SUDAH BAYAR TAX KAH???

BELUM???.......


CAN WE CHANGE THEIR MINDSET??


U KNOW I KNOW.....NEVER!!!
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Lucas,

Good points.


Pls Join respective bn association in your local town. if not, set up one.


sleep early lah....dont always burn midnight oil!!!.....nanti minyak habis ohh...

From what i heard, only those farmers who registered with that Particular Malaysian BN assocition, and no other local , mocal kampung associations in malaysia!!!.....

You guys who join the local bn associations are all .....well...not qualified!!!...

So, join DL whether you are from Penang, SP, Kuantan, Seremban and in fact the whole malaysia!!!....




The reason given is They are the one who Negotiated with the govt to discard some of the unreasonable guidelines..well....maybe just one of them which is the relocation.....Relocation...

So, all local mocal bn associations in whole malaysia will need to apply to join The Particular Malaysian BN association in order to qualify to apply for a license!!....

And maybe i am wrong...but then why suggest to the govt that only those who registered with the a particular association is allow to apply license ??

what is the motives??

dont you think it is weird??


it is not weird, imagine with 60,000 farmers in whole malaysia, with each of them required to contribute the initial deposit to apply membership, each will need to fork out at least, RM3000.00 ( This figures is my best guess !!)...(well, this is THE millionaire Club..not Pasar malam sellers club...)...so this work out to

RM180,000,000.00


And since this is a Millionaires Club, we will need to gives a REasonable Yearly Contribution...of ..well...again my best guess....about RM1000.00 a year.


so this work out to

RM60,000,000.00 a year...


OMG!!!......this is ONE BIG FAT PIG MEAT if you ask me!!!..........



AGAIN....BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.....BETTER ACT NOW THEN LATER!!....


JOIN DL TONIGHT !!!!.....



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This post has been edited by ChanK: May 18 2009, 07:02 PM

JUST A REMINDER TO ALL FARMERS IN MALAYSIA :

IT IS THE SEASON AGAIN IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.....

TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTION WITH YOUR FARM SECURITY...

JUST CAME BACK FROM ONE OF MY FARM N TURN OUT LUCKILY DUE TO BATT WEAK.......

BUT, THIS IS THE SEASON AGAIN ....SO BE EXTRA EXTRA SECURE ALL YOUR FARMS.

DL IS DAVID LIM, OUR BN LOCAL HERO , THE BN INDUSTRY, HANG TUAH!!!.....THIS ONE IS IMMORTALITY ONE...AS NO ENEMIES CAN COME NEAR HIM....AS THE WHOLE ARMY IS WITH HIM TO PROTECT HIM...



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For your information :


http://hmswiftlets.com/Seminar.html

In theory, we talk a lot about roving room. and this thinking is populated by Drs Nugruho.

The theory stated that the front part of entrance hole is the roving room where swiftlets will fly down and turn, turn , turn then only enter the nesting room. The ideal size of this roving room is 12 x 12ft (minimal).

If you have a big big Mansion style farm, yes, this might be right ( even farm sized 40ft x 120ft i did not see them using the roving room that we design..), and most of the time, swiftlets never use the roving room...their roving room is up on the roof of the farm or in front of the farm. And from my observation, you will see them make circle in a radius no smaller than 6m and this works out to be at least 40ft in circle length.

For most farm(especially shop farm), basically, swiftlets considered it as their nesting room, there is no roving room !!!.....

It is that we, farmers, who always think that the front part actually is the roving room.

Well, this is my own interpretation and observation. Believe it or not.


The current discussions and also in other blogs are all going in circle, some in anticlock and some in clockwise, if you know what i mean. By discussing the same old things over and over and over again does not help this industry at all.

Why dont anyone here do some researches instead of following back those old methods !!...

Do we really need to use insecticide to control mites,ants and etc in our farm?

can't we use more organic way to kills them?

Do you really think that those china made audio equipments n tweeters are the best equipments that we can use?

Do you still think that aroma does not help in the farm?

Do you really needs to use humidifiers to control the humidity?

Do you still think that installing Alarm in the farm is a No No Solutions?

there are many many things that you guys can spend your precious time to do some study instead of keep doing, n chatting the same old thing.
Don't follow those old farmers thinking...they might not right!!....their only expertise is Harvesting....most of them...


but then, it is me talk k this morning. so, skip this post. Don't read it as it will makes you MAD!!!..

This post has been edited by ChanK: May 20 2009, 08:30 AM

Don't ask anyone whether they have done their job or not. For sure, u have not done your duty as you have not registered with the association until now.

Yesterday, they came to selangor in one bus to visit selangor bn association and they discuss about the situation in melaka and how to deal with the deadline given by govt to shut down those farms in heritage area.

They even claim that most of the farmers in melaka are all their members which total abt 100++ members. this i dont think is correct.

Are u sure there are only 100+ farms in Melaka??....i doubt that figures.

Whether the president n the gang are doing their work or not, at least, we farmers, have to at least join them and then only if they are not doing their work right, u can always vote them out!!!...

Else, u will have to form a new association...which should be the last option.

Even in selangor, with high no of farms, the selangor bn association only managed to attract abt 200 or less members.

Thats why history tell us that, we chinese, are all very selfish.
TO eliminate us is easy, hentam one by one in small groups. sure menang one!!!...

Don't blame anyone for hentam u!!!....It is U who allow others to hentam U in the first place.


And they are those farmers who always gives excuses that..ahh....my farm is very new, no nest yet...what is the point of me paying n register with the association!!!....

Yeah right!!!....Brilliant!!....then since you are so smart, why you so smart throwing RM200K++ in this investment even before u see even one single Shit spot!!!!......


My USD2 cents comments...why today so free ahh....
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This post has been edited by ChanK: May 20 2009, 10:58 AM

Today is really free ahh...

I think i m wrong about this Particular Association.

Those peoples are earning average RMx,000,000.00 a month harvesting nests.

Do you really think they are interested with your few millions??

No.

From what i heard,

Their aim is to monopoly the whole trading of Bird's nests in Malaysia....

without their approval, no one is allowed to bring nest in or out of Malaysia.

AND WITH THAT they not only can earn money fr harvesting their nests, they also get to earn money from all bird's nests harvested by farmers in malaysia!!!....


Scary or not??........

But then, maybe this happened in my dream..i dont know...or i might have six sense??

But, i dont think anyone, well, not human being for sure...to think of doing this kind of things to farmers....Don't u think??

thats why it is very harmful to them if farmers set up so many associations in malaysia as they needed the members no to show to the govt that they represented all farmers in malaysia......So, do u still think that joining a national association is the best solution for u??

better think twice...

DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT I SAID!!!.....I M JUST TALK K!!!.....AS ALWAYS!!!...


And today i also heard a funny story fr a friend in Melaka,

He told me that he go enquire about the membership fees....the person in charge told him RM3k for initial fees n then monthly rm600.00.
But my friend told he heard from his friend that it only cost rm1k n rm200 or 300 a month??

THe person in charge said...ohh.....this is discount for those who join next year not this year...


WHAT!!!.....LIKE THAT ALSO CAN AHH!!!....WAU LAU !!!..... MELAKA BOLEH LAH!!!...


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This post has been edited by ChanK: May 20 2009, 10:26 PM

If the association is sincere, we must understand the situation when they required more fund to maintain the association.

Renting office space, paying utilities bills, secretary salary and etc. All these requires money.

Take for example in Selangor, initial when they set up the association, we are required to pay initial entrance of RM2600.00 and subsequently RM600 a month. With only a handful of members, I never hesitated to pay it up eventhough i am still new to the industry.

And in order to attract more members, they have resorted to reduce the entrance n yearly contribution to rm1xxx (i forgot how much) and rm250 a year. But if u cares to see their account, it is not enough.

With each town to have a local association, the state association will not be burden by local issues and they can concentrate in dealing with the govt.

It cost lower in setting up a local association, with 7 volunteers and to have a place ( not necessary to have an office, just get a space in a local coffee shop will do actually). This is far more effective as Lucas1 mentioned.

The only problem is to find these volunteers, most of them only use their mouth, when comes to need them to do something...they all cabut!!!.

And if you ask me guess, how many of u will join a national association set up by DL, i think 99% will want to join his association but when ask for volunteers to help out, all will becomes quiet.

Thats why those that still stick around (which state i do not wish to elaborate here) and naturally have their own hidden agenda. They are making use of the association for their own benefits as all farmers are all well...more politely...a fool !!...

By telling all this stuffs here is hopefully the younger generation of farmers will participate in association matters and dont let this old dogs playinig a fool with your futures.

They think we are all a fool that can be manipulate easily!!....

Understand fools??..this including me lah!!!...

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This post has been edited by ChanK: May 21 2009, 10:11 AM

WITH US DOLLARS EXPECTED TO DROP LIKES NO MAMA ( IT IS NOW RM3.455 TO USD1.00)...HONG KIES WILL SQUEEZE THOSE PROCESSORS LIKED NO MAMA TOO FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS....

BE PREPARE TO SQUEEZE BY THE MIDDLE MAN AS WELL.....

U TANYA SAYA.....JUAL SECEPAT MUNGKIN LOH......MANA ADA NAIK LAGI....


AI YO...ITU SUDAH LAMA TECKNIK LAH.....KAN ADA SATU BODOH FARMER NAK APPLY PATENT UTK LONTAR MAKANAN TU!!....ITU APA NAMA?? AHH....SOH HARRI KAN??...

LONTAR APA MAKANAN....INSECTS LAH...

NAK TAU APA MAKANAN WALET NAK MAKAN??....TENGOK YOUTUBE LAH!!!....

AI YO....LAGI CHAT OLD TEKNIK KAH NIH??.......


JOKING..EHHE...

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Added on May 22, 2009, 5:51 pmOK. tentang AROMA, ini adalah catatan lama dari Trubus tentang AROMA :

Sila enjoy ( Di petik dari i punya blog posted 08 dulu....ai ya old time story again lah)..

Selama 2 tahun rumah walet di Mojokerto, Jawa Timur, itu kosong melompong. Padahal, persyaratan lingkungan makro dan mikro-kelembapan, suhu, pencahayaan-dipenuhi. 'Sudah dipancing pakai air bekas cucian sarang, tapi nihil,' ujar BM Wawan. Namun, baru seminggu memakai ramuan pemikat walet dengan campuran rumput laut, suara cericit si liur emas itu mulai terdengar di dalam rumah.

Air cucian sarang hanya satu dari sekian cara yang pernah diupayakan BM Wawan untuk memikat walet. Pengusaha kelontong di Surabaya itu pernah pula mengoleskan telur bebek ke dinding. Bahkan menebar air kotoran walet ke lantai rumah walet. 'Itu sudah dikombinasi dengan CD player untuk mengundang walet,' ujarnya. Namun, segala upaya itu belum menuai hasil.

Titik terang muncul setelah Wawan menggunakan ramuan campuran sarang walet dan rumput laut. Kombinasi bau amis keduanya mujarab memancing walet masuk. Tak perlu disemprotkan ke dinding, ramuan itu hanya dioleskan memakai kuas pada lagur. 'Seminggu setelah dioleskan ada walet yang masuk,' katanya. Bahkan saat dicoba pada bangunan walet lain miliknya, walet masuk dalam tempo 3 hari.
Rumput laut

Menurut Agung Santoso, peternak di Mojokerto, rumput laut dapat menghasilkan bau amis yang tidak membuat walet pergi. 'Bau amisnya tidak keras, tapi bisa tahan lama sampai berbulan-bulan karena menyerap di pori-pori kayu,' kata Agung yang sudah meneliti formula itu sejak 1995. Begitu aroma amis di lagur hilang, walet tetap bertahan di sarangnya.

Sarang walet dan rumput laut memang bahan baku utama ramuan itu. Sekitar 100 g sarang dicuci bersih sebanyak 3 kali selanjutnya sarang itu direndam air selama semalam. Sarang kemudian dihancurkan hingga lembut dengan blender. Selanjutnya tambahkan 50 g rumput laut dan campuran itu direndam air sebanyak 5 liter.

'Perendaman dilakukan selama kira-kira sebulan,' ujar pengusaha yang sukses menernakkan walet itu. Hasil terbaik bila didapat air rendaman menjadi keruh dan berwarna kekuningan. Bau amisnya tercium lembut. Air rendaman itu kemudian disaring untuk membuang ampas sarang dan rumput laut. 'Yang dipakai hanya air rendaman saja,' katanya.

Cairan pemikat walet itu harus segera dioleskan pada lagur. Musababnya bila didiamkan terlalu lama, lebih dari 2 minggu, bau amisnya berubah, tidak tercium segar. 'Ini dapat terjadi pula bila perendaman dilakukan sampai 2 bulan,' ujar Agung. Bila cairan itu dipaksa untuk digunakan, walet tidak akan terpikat. Untuk itu perlu takaran yang pas agar ramuan tidak terbuang percuma. Dari pengalaman Agung cairan pemikat sebanyak 5 liter cukup untuk dioleskan pada 2 rumah walet berukuran 10 m x 20 m.

Pemakaian sarang utuh untuk bahan campuran memang mahal. Untuk itu Agung menyarankan sarang remukan yang harganya Rp1-juta-Rp1,5-juta/kg 'Bisa juga dipakai sarang sriti,' kata Agung. Rumput laut dapat dibeli di pasar tradisional. Harganya cukup murah sekitar Rp60.000-Rp70.000/kg.
Tenang

Ramuan pemikat walet sebetulnya mudah ditemui di pasaran. Namun, tidak semua ramuan itu efektif menjerat walet untuk masuk. Selain sarang sebagai bahan utama, campuran lain yang dipakai adalah kombinasi air kotoran walet dan minyak ikan. Itu yang dilakukan oleh Ade H. Yamani di Karawang. Namun, cairan pemikat itu harus disemprotkan ke seluruh permukaan dinding agar bekerja efektif.

Menurut Hary K Nugroho memancing walet memang gampang-gampang susah. 'Tanpa dipancing walet dapat datang asalkan kondisi lingkungan rumah walet tenang,' ujar pemilik Eka Walet Center di Kelapagading, Jakarta Utara, itu. Tenang berarti jauh dari hiruk-pikuk kegiatan manusia. Itu pula yang terjadi pada walet-walet yang menetap di gua tepi pantai.

Pendapat senada disampaikan Agung. 'Hasilnya akan lebih bagus jika lingkungan tidak ada gangguan,' katanya. Apalagi jika peternak memperhatikan arah masuk dan keluar burung. 'Posisi lubang keluar dan masuk harus searah terbang walet,' ujar Agung. Harap mahfhum itu akan membuat walet merasa aman sehingga saat cairan pemikat dioleskan, Collocalia fuciphaga itu lekas masuk. (A. Arie Raharjo)


Hello...kita semua yg jual aroma bukan scientist lah.....

Kita tak tau apa apa pun...hanya kita buat ujian utk dapat formula yg kita rasa adalah effektif utk menarik burung tinggal dan buat sarang...

Mana ada Hormone ke...potion ke...apa itu???....u ingat kita einstein ke??

Barang kita pakai adalah semua organic!!!.....

Yg u sudah dengar...seaweed, sarang sriti, sea coconut, Fish oil, Feather oil, telur walet, sarang walet, bulu walet, bulu sriti.... apa apa oil..nah!!..itulah Hormone yg kita cakap tu!!....

Lagi apa...ahh....ni satu saya belum try....Fish sauce buatan Thailand ataupun Vietnam...cuba tu.....

bosan lah...nak repeat semua barang lama nih...

macam orang cina cakap....` Gang bodoh lama mati, Ada lagi gang bodoh baru!!! ' ...no ending story loh..

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This post has been edited by ChanK: May 22 2009, 05:51 PM

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PLEASE WATCH ASTRO BERNAMA NEWS CH502 TONIGHT @ 8PM (23TH MAY)

TONIGHT!!!


INI NEWS PAKAI BANYAK WANG OHH!!!...


SPREAD THIS NEWS TO ALL FARMERS...FRIENDS......GIRL FRIENDS...

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REMEMBER THAT OHH!!!..



This post has been edited by ChanK: May 23 2009, 06:36 PM

Lucas, Where hv u been for the past 10 years??

This is normal!!!....not only us but also majority..

Look at today news, what did u read??

Our PM said, he encourage 1Malaysia but....

Don't make use of this to demand for more!!!...

But, did we ask for anything except necessity??

did we ask for 30% shares in Petronas??

Did we ask for 30% shares of Politics power??

no, until our PM really sincere in sharing instead of thinking that whatever we request are mere Extreme Demand, this will not end.

We, businessman, only want peace. we dont want change as long as we are at peace.

As for the graduates case, we are at least still proud of them as they are graduates with high education.

But the trend of our younger generation are dropping out of school even before completing secondary school is increasing at scary rate.


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This post has been edited by ChanK: May 25 2009, 09:07 PM

The Only way out is by making use of established Chinese Chamber of Association...thats the only way out for all farmers as it is the only association which under William can help all the farmers in malaysia.

It is the only way that the govt willing to listen to us.

We can't hope those new BN Sdn Bhd to help us as they have their own hidden agenda and we dont have time to set up a new one and wait for members to join as by then, most of us will be dead!!!....

Only way out is make use of existing Chinese Chamber Association to represent us to negotiate with the govt. We can make use of all the caliber committee's members there to help us.

THE ONLY WORKABLE OPTION. NO OTHER WAY OUT.

DONT WASTE THE MONEY,TIME TO FIND OTHER SOLUTION.

SET UP A TEAM FROM THE CHAMBER WITH DL AND OTHER SINCERE FARMERS AND WORK FROM THERE.

IT IS ENOUGH TALK K.

ANYONE WITH CONNECTIONS IN THE CHINESE CHAMBER ASSOCIATION, PLS CALL UP WILLIAM CHEN, THE ACTING PRESIDENT, THAT WE FARMERS NEED THEIR HELP URGENTLY!!!!...

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