V2. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus
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 Feb 27 2009, 07:45 PM
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SO, TELL US MR HARRY AKA ISMAIL AHMAD,
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY `The temporary relocation of swiftlet house' OHHH....HOW ABOUT TEMPORARY RELOCATION OF YOUR STUPID HEAD !!!!!!!!..... OR YOU CAN TEMPORARY RELOCATE TO OTHER COUNTRY !!!!!! LIKED AFRIKA WHERE YOU CAN START YOUR CON BUSINESS ONCE AGAIN !!!! YOU CAN TELL THE AFRIKAN THAT YOU CAN TEMPORARY RELOCATE GOLD N DIAMONDS FROM THE EARTH AND TRANSFER IT TO THEIR HOUSE!!!!!   This post has been edited by ChanK: Feb 27 2009, 07:50 PM |
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Feb 27 2009, 08:28 PM
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 YOU HEAR OUR LUCAS1 !!!! GO UNDERCOVER !!!! SEEK THE TRUTH !!!!!  |
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Mar 1 2009, 07:47 PM
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watching AEC 302, Zero distance with Lim Guan ENg......
 cannot tahan lah....the story just too touching..... Quoted from LGE, ` Sometimes i wonder whether i am stupid as peoples go to jail due to doing harm to others but i go to jail due to helping people that i not even met before '..... This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 1 2009, 07:49 PM |
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Mar 1 2009, 08:35 PM
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not which type u like but which type your local birds there like?. Sometimes we all emphasis or concentrate in so much about THE DESIGN and has neglected the very most important factor, THE BIRDS...
Before designing your first Farm, have you actually see how swiftlets fly pattern...their capability and their inability and their natural flying pattern??.. That's more important than what we liked....  woh....thks lucas1 for reminding us this issue, else sure next week kena liao, one of our taiwan friend who is coming to malaysia and had ordered 4 kilo of nests for their own consumption n they did plan to bring it with them when they leave the country.... where shall we start this...custom dept?. This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 1 2009, 09:14 PM |
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Mar 2 2009, 08:51 AM
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Air Well or Window type?
Air well for all new bird's house is the right choice. Design wise or whether it is owl proof, not always the best design. But still highly recommending air well for the all farm house whether standalone or shop. There are some jokers who owned standalone farms in eco park and ends up the whole area are totally going crazy !!!... they are not only fighting for sound quality but they are actually fighting who can churn out higher volume from their tweeters !!!!! Again observe how it fly as it is not the air well or window design that will make your farm success or slow or failed...... |
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Mar 2 2009, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Mar 1 2009, 06:23 PM) lucas , can i ask u some question? From Brother K info,my BH build in agriculture land, can i build a dog cannel above my BH ???? but the new garis panduan just come out, and mention cant build dog cannel in shop lot or agriculture land?thanks....anyone can tell me? can i build dog cannel in agriculture land? The reason for not encouraging having Dog Kennel or window type entrance is due to its uncontrollable noise nuisance caused especially in township. If you are doing it on agricultural land in rural area where it doesn’t cause such nuisance to the neighbours, this condition may not be necessary and affecting. Moreover any new guidelines or by-laws created does not have retrospective effect on situations happened prior to it coming into effect. But, nonetheless, it is our moral obligation as a good and considerate citizen to rectify and to comply if circumstances permit for the wellness of this industry. Generally, all the existing BHs with DK or window type entrances especially those in shop-house in townships are encouraged to convert them into air-well type entrance so to reduce the chances of causing the number one complaint against this industry, that is the noise nuisance.(Constitute 90% of complaints received) Added on March 1, 2009, 6:38 pmCONTEMPLATION OF FORMING A SPECIAL TASK FORCE TO TACKLE THE PERHILITAN CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES DL received numerous complaints of bird’s nest being detained, confiscated or componded in exit points in KLIA and LCCI recently. One China tourist after first time touring here, purchased 2 kg of processed nest as hand gift and for self consumption was stopped at the Security Screening Unit. It seemed that he was compounded RM1, 500 by the Custom before he was allowed to bring the nest board the plane. We do not know if the money is paid officially to the Custom, Perhilitan or duit kopi. There are simply too many such cases causing harassment to the people including genuine foreign tourists carrying only 2 ounces. This news have deterred and frightened many tourists from buying bird’s nest in Malaysia and even caused negative publicity on our inbound tourism resulting in slow down of foreign tourists. According to the Custom Act, there is no tax or duty on bird’s nest going out of Malaysia. Presently, only the Perhilitan is imposing the controversial exit tax of RM100/kg on nest for export. The lengthy and troublesome bureaucratic red tapes and procedures implemented since 2007 has caused a sharp decline in demand of the Malaysia produced nests and thus the prices of nests tumbled down due to a sudden glut of nests since then. Previously and prior to the ‘silent’ implementation of the EXIT TAX by the Perhilitan at exit points, the foreign buyers on average used to make 6 to 8 trips a month to buy nest from here. With the controversial and ambiguous process and procedure of the Perhilitan, it immediately caused inconvenience, troubles and hardship to these foreign buyers and their trips to Malaysia reduced to a maximum of only 2 per month. A 75% drop. Many cases of harassment, arrests, and confiscation of nests were caused to these buyers in airports. On top of this, additional RM 100/kg plus other extra operation costs, such as extended lodging, transports, labour etc incurred have rendered the buying of Malaysia nests become less attractive and competitive to them. Many turned away from here and to outsource from other countries, such as Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, Cambodia, Indonesia etc for all the convenience. The price of above RM5, 000/kg of the 1st grade of nest prior to 2007 has today dropped to only RM2, 500, a drop of 50%. Many Malaysian owners are overstocked with no demand from foreign buyers and are facing immensely increased financial hardship. This is very alarming and could be disastrous and it has also caused a heavy loss in much needed foreign revenue to Malaysia for the last 2 years. In view of the continuous deterioration of the situation, something has to be done by the local owners who are also the citizens of Malaysia for self rescue before the whole Malaysia BH industry and economy crumble due to this inconsiderate and shortsighted act and abuse of power and procedure and the injustice done by a certain unscrupulous high ranking officials from a certain quarter Govt department to mislead the Ministry to pass through such unwise, undesirable and unfavourable Enactment and policy both to the country and its people. This is unwittingly and slowly crippling and killing the new found and God sent Golden Goose let of Malaysia before it could even come to maturity. This is just like hitting own feet with stone. In view of the seriousness and the worsening situation faced by this industry, Mr David Lim is volunteering and considering organising a Task Force urgently to specially investigate on this matter. He is planning to appeal to volunteers from BH owners across Malaysia to help in. He cannot do it alone. This Task Force (TF) shall do the collection of data, evidence of cases, information of malpractices, hardship caused, and corruption practices by the relevant departments. The TF shall then compile them and would have these studied and scrutinised by a panel of professional constitutional lawyers and experienced professionals. The findings and recommendations would then be attached and enclosed in a memorandum to be presented directly to the Ministers of the relevant Ministries including the Prime Minister Department. A meeting for dialogue would be sought with the Ministers including the Prime Minister. DL would like to remind that the people are the BOSSES of this country. The YBs (CEO) are elected and entrusted by the BOSSES to administer this country properly and to implement good policies to serve and to benefit the BOSSES of this country with JUSTICE and FAIRNESS and without personal hidden agenda. With unity of the BOSSES (people) and with the constitutional right vested, we shall decide who shall be the next good CEOs. Rightfully this action should be taken up and spearheaded by the committees of the numerous birds’ nest associations scattered across the country. But it may be due to the various circumstances and reasons and the disunity, not much positive actions seemed or seen to have done. Understand that several attempts had been brought up by certain associations regarding the issues but to no avail and follow ups. It is also understandable that not all the committees in an association are committed and possessed the calibre and ability to pursue the matter. May be there exists only one or two individual in each association who are prepared to do it but due to inadequate of support and assistance rendered by the other fellow committees, thus not much could be done. Sometimes, the committees holding high positions are simply illiterate and totally inefficient and lacking of knowledge as to how to do it is the main cause. DL would like to invite such individual committee with the sense of commitment, righteousness and dedication to come forwards to liaise with him as an individual volunteer and to join in this ad hoc TF and share and work as a team to tackle the various BH issues. DL also invites everybody and anybody in this forum to join in to play a small role as he deems fit. Please remember that every BH owner, trader, consultant, or blogger is on the same boat. So, whether you want to continue to sail or sink together, it is all up to you. Only with unity with proper strategy and planning as ateam, we can win. If everybody is selfish, expecting somebody to do it, in the end nobody does it; the future of this industry is sure doomed. Those prepared to help in to save the industry, please either post it up here or PM to me or contact DL directly.  those use AiraSix airlines will sure kena !!!.. Check out here for customs daftar.... http://www.dagangnet.com/ .. This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 3 2009, 08:32 AM |
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Mar 3 2009, 08:35 AM
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Edible-nest Swiftlet (Aerodramus fuciphagus) or Black-nest Swiftlet (Aerodramus maximus) are protected species under Protection of Wildlife Act, 1972 and therefore any exportation/ importation of swiftlet bird’s nest from these species of requires a license from the Department of Wildlife and National Parks.
This requirement is in accordance to the Protection of Wildlife (Amendment) Order 2003 which stipulates a payment of RM0.10 cent per gram or RM100 per kilogram for the import/ export license. Director Department of Wildlife and National Parks Federal Territory KM 10, Jalan Cheras, 56100 Kuala Lumpur. Tel: 03-9075 2872 Fax: 03- 9075 2873 Director Department of Wildlife and National Parks Johor Tgkt. 9 Blok B, Wisma Persekutuan, Jalan Air Molek, 80000 Johor Baru, Johor. 80000 Johor Baru, Johor. Tel: 07-2230580 Fax: 07-2235702 Director Department of Wildlife and National Parks Penang Tgkt. 40, Bangunan Komtar, 10000 Pulau Pinang. Tel: 04-2613039 Fax: 04-2610330 5.0 PROSEDUR PERMOHONAN DOKUMEN IMPORT/EKSPORT i. Mulai 15 Oktober 2007, semua urusan permohonan dokumen import/ eksport Jabatan PERHILITAN perlu dilakukan secara on-line menggunakan e-permit. Pengecualian (Permohonan secara offline) hanya akan diberi kepada individu yang tidak menjalankan perniagaan. ii. Borang permohonan yang dihantar melalui e-permit hanya akan diproses setelah dokumen sokongan telah diterima sepenuhnya oleh Jabatan. Pemohon boleh menghantar dokumen sokongan melalui fax. Permohonan yang dihantar tanpa dokumen sokongan disertakan dalam tempoh 24 jam akan ditolak. iii. Borang permohonan dan dokumen sokongan yang diterima di luar waktu pejabat (hari Sabtu, Ahad dan hari kelepasan am) hanya akan diproses pada waktu bekerja yang seterusnya. iv. Untuk membuat permohonan, pemohon terlebih dahulu perlu mendapat akaun e-permit dari; Dagang Net Technologies Sdn. Bhd 20th Floor, HP Towers, Jalan Gelenggang, Bukit Damansara, 50490, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Tel: 603-2723 2723 Faks: 603-2723 2727 Laman web: http://www.dagangnet.com This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 3 2009, 08:41 AM |
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Mar 3 2009, 10:39 AM
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Always remember one thing when you decides to use consultant services to build or revive your farm.
1) no one in this world can quarantee u 100% success, not indonesia sifu's, not malaysia sifu's, not thailand sifu's n for sure not Afrikan sifu. 2) not who build/revive which farm success or failed but more important where the farm situated. Consultant's can gives you advice to rectify all the problems in a farm but that does not quarantee you immediate success. 3) This industry is still very new, even in indonesia, it all started during 90s, and most of the online consultant's or offline only have about the most 10 to 15 years experiences. All of us are still learning. 4) No one in this world can have 100% success rate in swiftlet farming except if u only owned one farm and stop there. (and depends on how you rate your own success, some think that 50 nests a year is a success and our FAMOUS AFRIKAN Sifu think that it is AWESOME if 60 nests for a 4 years old farm !!!!!!  ).So open your eyes wide when choosing a consultant and if you ask me i always recommend them to DIY the farm if you are confident enough. So, putting this aside, how about we tackle the perhilitan issue here?. This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 3 2009, 10:48 AM |
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Mar 3 2009, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(kohloh @ Mar 3 2009, 10:48 AM) then after 3 year uncle Tak will be looking fr u!!  don't register sure DIE.... Register also DIE....slowly..... SO??...what to do ?..............  |
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Mar 3 2009, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(kohloh @ Mar 3 2009, 06:07 PM) Woh....is that only for wildlife right??...we export bird's nest not animal meat leh..bloody shit...some more want to increase fine ahh... As expected the back lash from blogger a liked...know who did that, who cares... U think i cared ??...i am not you, driving a big car but blacklisted by bank !!!! some more show your children face in your blog...Good God...save your children reputation !! man... From the day one i knew this will happen if i involved in this ...but if i dont involve, i am an animal not a human being. No regret at all. Only regret, i drag my friend,HM, into this too. But we knew each other well enough and he knew how d*** head i am. By the way, spend some time to write a better story post lah...peoples read also already know what the bull shit you talking, if your old sounds can attract so many birds play why u buy from HM ?..ai ya....spend some time to write a better one lah... As for HM products, some say good, some say not so good, some say mah mah dei, some say cheap, some say expensive, some say not worth it. Some say our sounds are very good, some say our sounds got no effect, some say our sounds only last a few days. My answer, Yes. It could happened. If HM Sounds is workable in THE WHOLE UNIVERSE irregardless of macro n micro Environment, then HM is God !!!....  To the d*** head, we never claim HM sound will make the birds JUMP INTO the farm !!!.....until now also i cannot imagine birds can stand on the floor then jump into the farm????   but then we have a good laugh at it...Good Entertainment !!!..More important issue, SARAWAK IS STILL FACING DAILY THREAT FROM THE PERHILIATAN DEPT. CAN WE STILL DO SOMETHING TO HELP THEM?. ..  This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 3 2009, 09:07 PM |
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Mar 3 2009, 09:39 PM
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The sad thing about us is we never unite even during middle of WAR!!!..
All Sarawakians pls gives your support both in action and money. Apply Court Injunction needs money lah.... one farm contribute RM4K is a big amount but what other option do you have? Pls go find out the detail with Mr J, don't make these good guys also becomes fed up and give up hope as he alone cannot fight the war alone. He had paid RM150K last time and none of you guys did chip in eventhough he only asked that each farmer contribute RM600 to him where he managed to get media n middle man to talk with the head. The court injunction is your only hope. Not Advertisement in newspaper!!...don't waste the money. Pls register wt Mr J to apply for court injunction!!!!!.... Those online pls let your offline farmers knows about it. some think that since it cost only 30 to 50K to renovate the farm, they got no problem...but they are many rely on their farm to survive !!!.. Help the ordinary farmers and help yourselves. The courst injunction is still ongoing where lawyers are still gathering all the farms that want them to apply it. It cost about RM60K, pls check with Mr J how they calculate for each farm n the total farms involved. please... .. Added on March 3, 2009, 9:54 pmUncle Ben, i know what he trying to do. it is ok. he even use other name in this forum n send email to me asking design questions!!!....so nothing new. This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 3 2009, 09:54 PM |
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Mar 3 2009, 10:21 PM
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haha...also many harry here too...same person with different names....
kuching farmer, no need smell lah...can see through...haha... |
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Mar 3 2009, 10:29 PM
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Court injunction against unlawful sittings (Updated 7.45pm)
3 Mar 09 : 7.43PM IPOH, 3 March 2009: The High Court here today issued an order restraining Perak state legislative assembly Speaker V Sivakumar from convening any unlawful sittings. The order was issued by Judicial Commissioner Ridwan Ibrahim after hearing arguments in chambers from a team of seven lawyers representing newly-appointed Menteri Besar Datuk Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir and six state executive councillors. The legal team was led by Firoz Husain Ahmad Jamaluddin. Firoz told reporters later that the restraining order did not have a time limit. — Bernama use it lah....keepers!!!....Court Injunction !!!!.... Added on March 3, 2009, 10:33 pm This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 3 2009, 10:34 PM |
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Mar 4 2009, 08:08 AM
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Metro the star today talk about swiftlet farming in Rawang Country homes.
A guy named Jansen Gan commented that swiftlet farms should be allowed to operate in shoplots then he continue said that But farm should not situated next to food outlets !! HA !!!...WHY !!! WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?? THEN WHAT IF THE FARMER CONVERT TO FARM THEN AFTER TWO YEARS A FOOD OUTLET IS OPEN NEXT DOOR??....Then he continued to say that farms in shoplot do have problem such as noise and bird's shit everyway.. ?? OI you becomes homosexual liao ahh??.....read too many newspaper is it??...until the media changed your perception or you are dreaming when someone interview you?? And then another officer said all farms in shoplot is illegal and they will take action to the farms very soon...  hehe...time for breakfast, lunch, dinner and sauna liao !!!....BGM !!!! ALL THE SHOPLOTS IN RAWANG COUNTRY HOMES IS EMPTY, ABANDONED FOR SO MANY YEARS....ALMOST 10 YEARS. THE SHOP OWNERS SPEND CLOSE TO RM700K FOR EACH 3 STOREY SHOPLOTS!!! THOSE WHO CAN STILL SURVIVED HAD CONVERTED IT INTO FARMS INSTEAD OF LETTING IT GROW LALANG !!! WHILE THOSE CANNOT PAY THE INSTALLMENT ENDS UP BEEN LELONG FOR RM300K !!!...THAT TOO, NO ONE DARE TO TAKE THE OFFER!!... SO, TELL ME, OFFICER, WHAT YOU WANT TO SUGGEST ?? Added on March 4, 2009, 8:17 amKUALA LUMPUR: There is a 50% chance Malaysia will fall into a “full-blown” recession this year, said Malaysian Institute of Economic Research (MIER) executive director Prof Datuk Mohamed Ariff Abdul Kareem. “Technical recession is almost certain. The 1.3% (real gross domestic product (GDP) forecast in January) is considered optimistic. In fact, I think the best-case scenario will be 0.5% growth this year. “We forecast the first half year will have negative growth but hopefully the second half will show some positive figure, which will give us 0.5% growth,” he said, adding that MIER would review again the GDP as a lot of development has taken place since the last forecast. Speaking after a seminar organised by Rahim & Co, Ariff said Malaysia’s economy might remain sluggish for a long time. “My fear is that we may be stuck there for sometime. Contraction may not be sharp but long,” he said, adding that it could take three years (2012) before the local economy returned to normalcy. He expected the fiscal deficit to increase to more than 6% of GDP if the second stimulus package was RM30bil, which is about 4% of GDP. Financing the deficit budget was not a problem as there was a lot of liquidity in the local financial market, which funds 93% of the government deficit. NOT ENOUGH??....CLOSE DOWN ALL FARMS THEN LETS SEE HOW LOH !!!....BLOODY IDIOTS !!! This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 4 2009, 08:17 AM |
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Mar 4 2009, 09:41 AM
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I AM SO HAPPY.
AT LEAST THOSE POSTS HAD DONE SOME GOOD TOO. at least all investors had changed their mindset !!! that the most important thing. Rely to no one for your own success and failure. Consultants are only liked a mentor. A good mentor will guide u and not let you go to holland but he can't quarantee you anything. It is THOSE GUARANTEED MINDSET that consultants are trying to brainwash all new investors...... So all guys, online peoples are now very smart, don't waste time here anymore. Do some good to the industry. .. |
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Mar 5 2009, 08:26 AM
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An SMS from Sarawak,
chank, after reading yr posting i do agree that advertisement may not help. I did spoken to a few farmers in Kuching and sibu about joining Mr J to obtain a court injunction, but when talk about money there are so much mistrust in it. Some peoples because got some local govt projects so they do not dare. soo difficult in sehati. I am thinking we may have big chances of losing this battle if BH community continued to separated and not sehati. It is quite amazing, in sarikei everyone lost their fighting spirit and choose to cooperate with the forestry. ... This is sad. Not even start fighting, they have surrender. Pls let them know that Mr J personally fork out the money previously without any help from any farmers and only tell them that later just pay him back....but do you know how many actually pay him back... The court injunction is on going but it will only for those farms listed in the injunction !!!... When Mr D.L. had sent a lawyer here to Sarawak and help in finding local lawyers to take up the case and together with Mr J, they had negotiated with the sarawak lawyers to lower down the price to 60K (I FORGOT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT, PLEASE CHECK WITH MR J). This figures is been calculated based on the number of farms participated. Bear in mind that this figures is not from Mr J but from Lawyers and even that sum is not that big compares to the risk the lawyers are taking to represent the farmers. Miri n mukah farmers all applauded and fully support the injunction. AND WHEN MR J LATER ASKED FOR EACH FARMER TO CONTRIBUTE RM4K (I NOT SURE THE ACTUAL FIGURE) EACH....ALL CABUT !!!!.... THEY ALL THINK THAT SINCE MR J WILL GET THE COURT INJUNCTION, IT MEANS THEY CAN TAKE FREE LUNCH LIAO....AS THAT INJUNCTION WILL INCLUDES THEM. BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE, ONLY THOSE ON THE LIST OF THAT INJUNCTION IS COVERED!!! PLEASE UNITE !!!.... AND TO THOSE ALREADY KNOW THIS ISSUE, JUST JOIN MR J, ONE EXTRA NAME DO COUNT !!... UNCLE BEN, This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 5 2009, 08:53 AM |
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Mar 5 2009, 10:19 PM
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Wild Fires are starting in all places..in melacca, in kota bahru.......
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Mar 23 2009, 05:13 PM
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haha...west wing, dont be so hard to the young man lah....everyone has their own dreams n wishes...
loh..friend..Eng Lee...i dont want to see the light at the end of tunnel lah... if i see also i want to return back....i dont want to die lah!!!....... either cok or anti cok also can loh...as long got cok better than no cok!!!...who cares if they cok or anti cok!!!.... gives them two cok lah!!!.....why only restrict only one entrance at a time.. DON'T U THINK WITH TWO HOLE N WITH TWO COKs IS BETTER ??  hehe.....just a joke yeah!!..... Long Life Swiftlet farming...As for me....HARVEST KUA KUA LIKED END OF THE WORLD!!!!..... NEST PRICE NOW AT 3.6K, 2.8K, 2.5K...... HARVEST KUA KUA !!!!! everything now all up!!!....stock market Up by 20 pts!!!...... Obama team is Super Confident that US economy will recover within a year!!! UK now is technically out of RECEssion !!!...but slow down loh!!!... See So many good news !!!! ... and i m too busy doing that so i cannot too often join in here.....DON'T WORRY...BE HAPPY !!!... WHEN THINGS ARE NOT DOING WELL, WE DON'T THINK IT IS END OF THE WORLD!! WHEN THINGS ARE DOING VERY WELL, WE DON'T THINK WE ARE ON TOP OF WORLD !!!... RELAKS LAH!!!.......LISTEN TO SOME MUSIC, CATCH SOME NICE MOVIES, ENJOY OUR LIFE TO THE FULLEST EVEN IF TOMORROW IS WORLD WAR THREE MAH!!!!.......  ... This post has been edited by ChanK: Mar 24 2009, 08:59 AM |
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Apr 2 2009, 08:00 PM
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ai ya west wing,
comments from ben chai n coolandy are all april fool jokes lah !!... hehe....this is funny... .. |
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Apr 4 2009, 08:44 AM
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Understand how u feel. thats every town farmers `Nightmare'.
If you can predict the trend liked a trader, u know that the long term trend is not good. We all know the history of N, nothing good but evil. How long he will act liked an angel....u know i know. So what can we do, u know i know. should we gives up? NO. When we need to fight the war, we fight the WAR KOW KOW!!! When we smell something bad coming, We eliminate it KOW KOW!!! Thats all we can do....u know i know.... as ordinary citizens, we cant do anything but get your balls squeeze by them.... how to get out of this rat race?? Dont let them squeeze your ball!!!!... How?? U know I know....and a lot of peoples still think changing G is the only option.... Are you sure??......look at Thailand......see the T moving his troops to dismantle the G!!!.... How??.....he got the money!!!.....With Money, you can have a strong Ghosts Troops to defend you. Thats the reality, nothing else. Thats why....just do what we can do everyday......when war come....make sure u all come out from your cosy chair and fight all the way!!!!!......... .... This post has been edited by ChanK: Apr 4 2009, 08:49 AM |
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