What's the current price of processed white nest per kg?
If export to Shanghai, says about 500kg, any restriction, taxes or paperwork I need to be aware of?

In my opinion, there isn't an optimum size but just a comfortable size. Like the roving area, a big one is always better but then, it shall be a waste of valuable space and too big a BH is also silly cos I rather built another BHs in other locations to give myself the advantage of having more birds or double chances.

A BH of normal size like a shoplot will be sufficient and in your agriculture land, allow future extension or expansion will be recommended.....so during your making of your BH, allow for future expansion. This way, it will not tie you down with debts and financial problems or leaving extra cash for another BH at another location. This way, you may be better prepared for as either one successful BH will be good and both would be a blessing.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Dec 3 2009, 11:55 AM

Can disclose how attractive the offer ?????????????????

there are so many friends that will be able to provide you with your order cos every Swiftlets town will be able to furnish you with your 50kgs order, and if you are in my area, give me a advance call but your offer must be good and remember to bring cash on your buying and no credit, please.

Thank you so much.
For future extention, do you mean building the new one next to the old one and share same wall similar to buying another shop house adjacent to the old one?
By the way what is your normal shoplot size? Is it 4*12 meter?

is it true that the white nest is always the one that gone thru the bleaching process? How come eu Yan Sang such as a big company also selling this items on the shelf as i heard it is chemically process and very dangerous to health.

I always like to think of us as the providers of safe sanctuaries for swifltlets and not as any business venture as we have no control of the birds. The birds can come and go as they please and we don't feed them but only maintain the building and should only be allow to harvest the nests after the birds fledged. The returns from the nests for providing such generous and kind services should be consider God's given as we have no say if the birds will stay or leave as they are free......

Are we illegal! not to my knowledge as there were no regulations governing this field before until now and like our grandfather's time, the cobbler was the optometrist and the hairdresser was the dentist legally and so we are the pioneers and as such we should be commended for bringing the new investment to the nation; be given each and every old pioneer, a special license to provide the service for free and infact, we did have the blessing of some ministers before. So, why now after so much investments and sweat lah!!!!! It seem like the State doesn't listen to the Federal and the Local Authority doesn't listen to the State and should we, the ra'ayat listen to our local leader who doesn't listen to their's.

As always, above are my personal comments on the matter..............

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Added on December 1, 2009, 2:52 pmLeave some metal bars protruding from your BH for future extension and when necessary, add a new block next to the Bh and just break down a wall and you have a bigger BH. Even with a 20 by 70, when full, 2 storey BH will get you more than 5K nests and what more do you want??

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Added on December 1, 2009, 3:12 pmOh no no no, you will scare off all buyers of the wonderful nests............white nests and chemical treated white are not the same if you watch carefully.The whites are not the same and normally, house nest do not go thru such treatment but the cave usually do as these cave nests consist of many impurities. The housenests can be controlled and only greedy and selfish owners and buyers will go to the extreme to bleach the housenests. I always advice my buyers not to insist on very white nests cos it will cause some unhealthy practice in the future and should buy nest that are a little golden color as that will be the best of all. On cooking for about 20 minutes with only rock suger, the birdnest should give out a aroma of egg white........that you won't missed if it is pure and not treated. Think of it will bring down my saliva even when I took birdnest regularly as I got it for free.....God's appreciation of my hard work cleaning and taking care of my swiftlets.

Chemical processed nests are not dangerous to health but then when you paid for such expensive health food, you want to get pure and original birdnests and not treated bird nests of lower health value that maybe bleached with HO2.

Again, I am not an expert in cleaning birdnests but I do clean nests to sell to my regular customers, near and far and waiting list is always there when they are convince that they get the best from you, safe and assured of the good things.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Dec 1 2009, 03:12 PM

Hi can u pm me ur contacts.

Sure, I did but then my particulars are never confidential as I am as truthful and honest as I speak. Everything I posted here are my past experiences with the swiftlets and they maybe not always 100% correct but never wrong........as all wrongs or mistakes were on me long ago. When I mentioned that I have feelings for the swiftlets, I mean it from my heart and to help you to be successful is also part of it....so that you may be successful and so will the swiftlets' population.

Some of my comments and advices have been taken by others on their blogs, I am happy as that will bring more swiftlets homes and will be able to share our success and God's wealth. Also, to sell at better price will also help the industry as a whole and I will be able to help you in getting the amount you wanted from my area provided always that price are better than that of our present buyers.

Here, we share and nobody is selfish.....hopefully, when we prosper, everyone prosper.....when we battle, everyone fight and I hope that's the spirit now and in the future as I see we have a up hill battle very soon and everyone must play a part for unity is strength. Divided and we all fall; one by one to the Devil in sheep clothing!!!! IshaAllah, we will win the war!!!!!

We have everything here, buy or sell, contractors or consultants, contribution and sharing on everything about swiftlets, we have it here and ask here and they will pm you and do pay them for their services and items.....cos only posting here is free, I believe lah.

Hopefully, that more forum readers will post their comments and knowledge here to share........again, this is what I personally believe and hope that you do, too. Lastly, I talk too much...sori sori lah

This post has been edited by West Wing: Dec 2 2009, 01:14 PM

First of all, i like to say thank you for answering my questions as im now learning the trade to become a somebody that will give more than taking. The reason is also because of the love of nature and curiosity of living animals such as the birds and their predators. just like the industry, there are predators waiting to exploit the success of others and their experience .

Bird nest farming can become one of the tourism industry soon as it also can provide tourist to explore the journey of the farm. There are so much opportunity to it if the govt know how to tap the market . not just delicacy but a factory tour .

i love nature alot and what u said gives me the idea of not just business but the passion to enjoy the fruits of success by seeing the birds growth rate . I believe there are many of u who are fighting very hard to open up the mind of those who look at the negativity but the industry also can create wealth and job to the states that was not focus for the past few years. look at thailand now, every streets have bird nest stall encourage by their country.

Is there any swiftlet club or association around that conducting seminars etc..?

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Added on December 1, 2009, 8:09 pmhttp://www.swiftletfarming.com.my/contents.php?id=100003

im looking for friends who like to attend the seminar together . please pm me so that we are able to get RM 100 discount to attend this seminar.


This post has been edited by hackwire: Dec 1 2009, 08:09 PM

Thank you for your kind advise.

From your experiences dealing with swiftlets, what is your guesstimate of the life span of this bird?

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Dec 1 2009, 09:29 PM

Anyone who intrested to buy the following bird house,

1. A licenced one and a half storey bird house in Prime area kuantan
2. Come a long with security system such as online CCTV , alarm, and etc
3.With 180 nest

Selling price Rm 450,000

please email me at kseng_99@yahoo.com

Nice said west wing.

Well, I'm still looking for supplier, 50kg a month

From report and information that I gather.......from 8 to 15 years. Experience don't tell me how long they can live cos' they just drop from the sky and die, somewhere in the forest and that's the reason that they can't carry any bird flu; they never get contact with the ground to get the flu viruses.......unless human being hand feed them and thus, transferring the diseases to the birds. I always warned them that we should never hand feed the free birds until they grow too fat to fly with our designer's genetically manufactured food, antibiotic and steroid to produce nest that may weight half a kilo each, hahahaha.

Dear friend you seem like newbie in this field.............
Experience buyer will anounce their offer for each grade of nest they want........
Now price getting higher...........
Some offer 5k/kg for white super nest............

I think i will bring the details more privately i.e discuss in PM

Yup the price is high now. Hope to get a fair deal here.

Yeah, TSS and many buyers are asking for nests as there seem to be a shortage of nests and they are offering higher and higher price for nests but I am not blind by the money to throw eggs and chicks for the sake of getting more money!!! Not Rm5K or even 10K per kilo.. Let the buyers wait for the ripe time to collect only when the birds fledged.

If the price is right, maybe I can help in securing nests for them from my friends and I don't ask friends on how they have their nests now cos' I have been thru talking and preaching the good and kind husbandry method of swiftlets ranching many times.

hi i am doing a research about swiftlet, there's a few question i would like to ask, i hope you guys can help me..


what are the advantage and disadvantage of buying a swiftlet farm from these location -> kelantan, sarawak, indonesia


what are the different in bird nest quality produce in this area -> kelantan, sarawak, indonesia

thank for your help

Sometimes while harvesting i also headach ........... after the baby bird fledged the mother bird already lay egg before i havest the nest.................. Want to harvest every two weekly worried will disturb the bird population speed................ once in a month harvesting also feel like not comfortable as not many nest can be harvested for my 14 months old BH with around 130 nest.....
Currently only every 6 weeks then i servicing my BH and do harvesting.......... end up most of the nest can not harvest due to egg already in the nest after the baby bird fledged........those nest harvested many of them have more than 2 layers but lucky my buyer still good enough offer me 3.1k/kg for those thicker corner and dirty nest. Want me throw egg ??????????? kill the future bird that make nest for you ???????
I not able to do it ..................... Any sifu here can advice on this matter ??????????? Cause some of my BH nest 3 layers already still not able to harvest ...............

Thanks again dear West Wing.
You are so kind in helping all of us here, no wonder swiftlets love you and want to stay with you.
May God bless you with more and more nests.

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Dec 3 2009, 03:51 PM