Tell the goverment ppl, forest fire forced the swiftlets to migrate to Malaysia, all the current and the new rules and regulations here will force the bird to migrate again to Thailand , Cambodia and Vietnam.
Is that what they want?

To all dear Sifus here,

Please help comment on our new BH design. It's an open roof with 4*4 m. roving area before entering into a .7*.9 m. entrance hole as in the pictures below.
We plan to build in a small town with many birds there, cannot disclose the name of the town, didn't want to attract authority's attention.

Thank you in advance and wish you all a very good health,good fortune and win all your wars.



This post has been edited by Tweeter: Sep 19 2009, 05:59 PM

Thanks so much for your response, aeiou228,
Ok,will consult an engineer again on how to get rid of the pillars
I will consider increase the roving area to 4*8, double it!! will it be ok?
LaL each floor at 2.5*2 m is still too small?
Points noted on control room size and double layer bricks.
Thanks again,your advise is highly appreciated.

Any more comments, please please?

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Sep 19 2009, 09:52 PM

aeiou228,
Ok,I am convinced on bigger roving area and bigger LAL.
Still cannot find a way to get rid of the pillars if I want to maintain the width, my engineer said in order to maintain the width without the pillars,the beam will be much bigger and that's expensive. He said to get rid of the pillars, the width should be reduce to 6 meter, then the beam can be just a little bit bigger. Will need to study further on how expensive and how much bigger on LAL.
This will be our first BH, need to do it right in as much as possible with our little knowledge on this area.
Thank you very much for your advise.

Hi dunsuntutmybuntut,
Thanks you very much for your comments.
For your an 80ft x30ft standalone BH , do you have pillars inside the building?
Please advise what is " BRC + Y12 " or where to look up, not familiar with the name, thank you.




The width and length is pretty much limited by the land, so I cannot further increase the length, but appreciate your advise.
Outside control room and stair case and glass window to monitor the bird is a very interesting idea.
If I have to reduce the width I can have this option, only that I have to start it all over again on design, sigh!

Just a token of appreciation for your comments and advise, aeiou228 and dunsuntutmybuntut,
Here are the video clip of Birdnest harvesting from capes and BH ,transportation,processing and to the retail shops.
Sorry that they are not in English but a pictures,specially movie should be easily understood.
There are two episodes:
1.http://hiptv.mcot.net/player/hipPlayer.php?SelectSpeed=256k&id=23862
See how they colled bird nests from the caves. ฺBefore harvesting they have to pay hommage to their God to help protect them from accident.
To harvest these nests from around 100 caves in southern part of Thailand for 7 years, they have to pay the Thai goverment 709 Million Baht.

2.http://hiptv.mcot.net/listProgramCat.php?catId=29
See some of the BH, there are more than 100+ BH in this small town, see the bird shitted on the narrator, and see the cleaning process of bird nest.

Those who do not give me any comments or advise on my design are not allowed to see lah,...................just kidding.

Enjoy!!!

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Sep 20 2009, 05:50 PM

Hi Coolandy,

Thanks for the comments.
Have you seen the video, any comments?

You need 56K or better at 256K speed to watch them.

Thanks to Dunsuntutmybuntut and Xunji,

These seem rather too technical to me, ,
Will have to consult further with my engineer, all comments are highly appreciated.

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Sep 20 2009, 09:52 PM

Anyone know what is a life span of a swiftlet?
Some said 3 , 6 or even 15 years. So confused!

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Added on October 5, 2009, 11:09 amI read that the Korean one is very good.
Check it out in http://faran.en.ec21.com/

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Oct 5 2009, 11:09 AM

Impressive!
Do you know the name of this tree?




This post has been edited by Tweeter: Nov 27 2009, 03:06 PM

What is the temperature?
If it's low(under 28), can try increasing it 2-3 degree.

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Added on November 30, 2009, 3:56 pmThanks dear WestWing.

If I'm gonna build a BH at 6*16 meter to avoid the column in the middle of the house, my strategy is build small but many.
Any comments?
From your experiences, what is the optimum size would you suggest?

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Nov 30 2009, 03:57 PM

Thank you so much.
For future extention, do you mean building the new one next to the old one and share same wall similar to buying another shop house adjacent to the old one?
By the way what is your normal shoplot size? Is it 4*12 meter?

Thank you for your kind advise.

From your experiences dealing with swiftlets, what is your guesstimate of the life span of this bird?

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Dec 1 2009, 09:29 PM

Thanks again dear West Wing.
You are so kind in helping all of us here, no wonder swiftlets love you and want to stay with you.
May God bless you with more and more nests.

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Dec 3 2009, 03:51 PM

Now that Sarawak planned to build so many dams there for clean water, for hydroelectric power,etc.
Is this good to the Bird Houses owners in other parts?

The Thai politicians are busy fighting amongst themselves and both sides need funding from Thai businessmen.
That's why they are more pro- business.
Actually, most of their families are businessmen themselves too.

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Jan 2 2010, 01:27 PM

Yes, I am a believer of "Good thinking, good intention and good deed will bring good things, good luck and prosperity to the one who believes and practises ".

May what you do here in helping and guiding newbies bring more birds and more nests into your BH and also live a thousand years to enjoy good life and prosperity the birds bring to you too.

This post has been edited by Tweeter: Jan 10 2010, 01:21 PM

Hi Raymond,

Please proceed as per sifu WW advised, so we, all newbies in here, can learn from your project as it progresses too.

Dear aeiou,
Please see whether the following article is any use for you.
Specially the explaination of "ventilation in burst" and the "moisture exchange under different condition"

http://www.rotronic-humidity.ch/_upload/ge...M_DampGuard.pdf

Hi Cergau,

To avoid too steep staircase, you can break the staircase into two parts for more steps, see pic below.

I also have a BH design very similar to yours.
My floor to floor will be 3.5 meter only.
The size is 6 meter by 20 meter,will be built on a shallow pond.
Hopefully can start by next month.




This post has been edited by Tweeter: Feb 10 2010, 11:29 AM