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post Feb 17 2009, 02:54 AM, updated 17y ago

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As you probably already know, Nokia N86 leaked yesterday, but today it makes the news all official. Named Nokia N86 8MP, it's got the first 28mm wide angle lens on a mobile phone. There's also a kickstand, and the rest of the specs are pretty close to what Nokia N85 already offers.

The new Nokia N86 8MP (yeah, it doesn't get any more obvious than that) is the first 8 megapixel cameraphone to sport a wide 28mm lens. There are also other goodies such as a mechanical shutter as on the Samsung INNOV8, allegedly a new, better Carl Zeiss lens.

Unfortunately, there's only a dual LED flash on board the N85 8MP. However according to Nokia, the LED flash is a third generation one and should effectively work at distances of up to 3.5 m.

The Nokia N86 8MP is the first device with variable aperture ranging from F2.4/3.2/F4.8. That means the device does betted in low light situations thanks to the wider aperture of F2.4 and takes sharper shots in bright daylight thanks to the F4.8 aperture value.

The other goodies on board the Nokia N86 8MP include 8GB of internal memory, a microSDHC card slot, a 2.6-inch OLED screen, FM transmitter, Wi-Fi and GPS connectivity, a 3.5mm audio jack and TV out. There's also quad-band GSm and tri-band HSDPA support for a truly worldwide voice and data roaming.

The Nokia N86 8MP will start retailing in Q2 2009 with an estimated price of 375 euro, before taxes and subsidies. There goes the Nokia E75…

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No Xenon flash, is a dual LED flash. Kind a disappointing, still waiting for E-series touch screen phone. When will Nokia bring them out doh.gif . Hurry Nokia, the Samsung and LG new phone model is damn tempting, better stop the crap before Samsung take over you for the throne doh.gif .
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More live photos from GSM Arena...

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post Feb 17 2009, 03:32 AM

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looks cool enuff... i wud buy it.
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The phone is there but I guess the Nokia team is too "pai seh" to announce it after seeing Samsung, LG and SE line up with their products. Makes ppl laugh if they were to announce this phone as the successor for N85 doh.gif .
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post Feb 17 2009, 04:12 AM

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oled ftw! love the screen.
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i would buy it if bigger display, xenon flash ..30 fps video recording.. and can do slow motion vide recording too like innov
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post Feb 17 2009, 07:53 AM

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tis is real, not a rumour
The datasheet is coming frm nokia themselves
The form factor of n86 is actually a mixture of n85+n97 in addition of some features appeared b4 but lost in n85
The spec is not as attractive as the se idou and samsung i8910 but it does has some features never seen b4 such as changable aperture, although it is controlled automatically but still a good feature to acquire much quality photos
And it stated tat the led flash as 3rd generation, i wonder how powerful is it compared with those equipped now and how far the performance of it compared to xenon flash
Let just wait for the time to tell the story
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yep the dual flash is dissapointing.. imgaine the 8mp with xenon.. nokia you always half half give .. why lor..

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the number button looks tasty. nice design as well.
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Feel like N79 + N85 design. Bore....

The number keypad very lousy like 10 years ago design.
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keypad design looks comfortable thn n85.
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The phone model named as N86 8MP sweat.gif
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QUOTE(intune @ Feb 17 2009, 07:58 AM)
yep the dual flash is dissapointing.. imgaine the 8mp with xenon.. nokia you always half half give .. why lor..
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If with Xenon flash for sure will be my next phone...


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QUOTE(nasik @ Feb 17 2009, 07:59 AM)
the number button looks tasty. nice design as well.
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Blue + White lights...


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QUOTE(123joe @ Feb 17 2009, 04:12 AM)
oled ftw! love the screen.
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I think from now Nokia will produce OLED Screen...


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Slider again sweat.gif
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Slider, not bad what... They can procude all new phone in candybar...


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pencil key missing again ..
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moar live photos here along with other new nokias. n86 is at the end of the set.

http://share.ovi.com/channel/gamerz.Showca...09.2.16.14.32.8
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look boring, nokia designer must be running out of ideal. Very typical nokia design..sad..look at SE, their design is very good.
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We havent try the real thing yet... So not much comment on the design and functionwise... From the look, so so only... smile.gif
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nokia shud come out with high end but durable phone,
like motorola tundra... haha....
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Lol 8mp camera wit no xenon flash ? doh.gif

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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 17 2009, 01:12 PM)
Lol 8mp camera wit no xenon flash ?  doh.gif
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The Xenon to be installed on N97 instead of this model... smile.gif
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Nokia already announced it officially, & u can check its full spec on GSM arena

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n86-2713.php
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QUOTE(cheebc @ Feb 17 2009, 03:36 PM)
Nokia already announced it officially, & u can check its full spec on GSM arena

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n86-2713.php
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Yea is officially confirmed today... smile.gif
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nice...esp white colour..i love it...
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QUOTE(refugeez86 @ Feb 17 2009, 04:00 PM)
nice...esp white colour..i love it...
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White and black 2 color of choice to choose from...
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 17 2009, 01:14 PM)
The Xenon to be installed on N97 instead of this model... smile.gif
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For real? I thought the N97 only has an LED flash.
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QUOTE(Izzat.G @ Feb 17 2009, 04:10 PM)
For real? I thought the N97 only has an LED flash.
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Huh I thought N97 are comes with Xenon Flash as well... Need to read the review again...
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nothing special sad.gif
8mp camera wit no xenon flash. not so good .
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 17 2009, 04:12 PM)
Huh I thought N97 are comes with Xenon Flash as well... Need to read the review again...
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N97 is just LED
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lolz when they coming out the candy bar version of 8MP...then at least i can be super motivated 2 replace N82 happily after 2 weeks usage only laugh.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Feb 17 2009, 04:27 PM)
lolz when they coming out the candy bar version of 8MP...then at least i can be super motivated 2 replace N82 happily after 2 weeks usage only laugh.gif tongue.gif
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Wah after using for 2 weeks thinking of replacing???


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N97 is just LED
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Huh just LED, then better keep my N82... Look at the after photo result, 100% best camera phone...

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I think its very similiar to N85..can't wait for its comments and reviews
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QUOTE(ivanlmh @ Feb 17 2009, 04:38 PM)
I think its very similiar to N85..can't wait for its comments and reviews
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Releasing Q2 2009... That would be May or June???
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they produced it b4..

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5140-pictures-587.php

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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 17 2009, 05:21 PM)
Releasing Q2 2009... That would be May or June???
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Nokia announced this phone too late la since SE,samsung & Lg launch this phone already doh.gif
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QUOTE(123joe @ Feb 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
Huh??? What are you talking about??? Nokia 5140??? Lol, out of topic man!!!
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 17 2009, 05:37 PM)
Nokia announced this phone too late la since SE,samsung & Lg launch this phone already  doh.gif
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compare to the other phones witch will be released on Q2 2009, SE Idou, Samsung Omnia HD, LG KM900 Arena, HTC touch pro 2, etc, N86 is consider "low spec"....
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QUOTE(123joe @ Feb 17 2009, 05:32 PM)
LOL what link is this ? Nokia 5140 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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the design is quite ugly to me i mean the dark one..the white one quite nice..

nothing special..only the camera with 8mp but not with xenon..

S.E i do still wayy better..


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man looks tempting i wonder how much would this cost?but still no xenon flash kinda disappointing
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looks OKay to me. only cam upgrade from n85? @>@
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I love the white one.. so gorgeous!!!
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QUOTE(Vint @ Feb 17 2009, 06:25 PM)
the design is quite ugly to me i mean the dark one..the white one quite nice..

nothing special..only the camera with 8mp but not with xenon..

S.E i do still wayy better..
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i love the design... looks very futuristic...
anyone know when it will be launched..??
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@yip_man, topic title wrong. Not N86 8MB, it is N86 8MP.
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QUOTE(zariqcools @ Feb 17 2009, 07:15 PM)
man looks tempting i wonder how much would this cost?but still no xenon flash kinda disappointing
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Euro RM375...


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@yip_man, topic title wrong. Not N86 8MB, it is N86 8MP.
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Haha you also making me confuse... 8MP + 8GB memory... smile.gif


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QUOTE(Vint @ Feb 17 2009, 06:25 PM)
the design is quite ugly to me i mean the dark one..the white one quite nice..

nothing special..only the camera with 8mp but not with xenon..

S.E i do still wayy better..
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In terms of Camera comparison with this model SE wins, but in terms of apps and games Symbian rules it...

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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 17 2009, 09:27 PM)
Euro RM375...

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Euro RM 375? is that a new currency? from witch country?

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So it will be below RM2000?? When it will going to be launched..?? Can't wait...
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QUOTE(cheebc @ Feb 17 2009, 09:37 PM)
Euro RM 375? is that a new currency? from witch country?
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Typo error EURO375... sweat.gif


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So it will be below RM2000?? When it will going to be launched..?? Can't wait...
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Q2 2009, maybe June or July...

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@yip man it is N86+8mb of memory ?
Gsm arena said is 8gb memory la sweat.gif
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no xenon = phail big time.... definately wont be flag ship~
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:02 PM)
@yip man it is N86+8mb of memory ?
Gsm arena said is 8gb memory la  sweat.gif
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Yea modify it already 8GB not 8MP... Thanks... smile.gif
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given that the focus of this phone is the 8mp camera mainly, the lack of a xenon flash is causing it to lose it's main market share.

Don't know what the hell they are thinking.
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May be some people dont need the xenon? And they need higher megapixels.
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 17 2009, 04:30 PM)
Wah after using for 2 weeks thinking of replacing???
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Xenon is very important to camera, I dont know why they can make on N82 but they cant make on this model or the coming soon N97???
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 18 2009, 12:29 PM)
Xenon is very important to camera, I dont know why they can make on N82 but they cant make on this model or the coming soon N97???
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Nokia seems to be having a hard time balancing between I think price(why else would they want to put in LEDs instead of Xenon?) and features. They're trying too hard to compete. I don't think other manufacturers are trying to do the same. I think others are thinking, "there is a market out there and I'm sure it'll sell".
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oh man...why again do they need to make the design the same as n81 or n85 or n96?...

previously i got an n81 and some of my friends say i got an n96..wow..
maybe if i bought an n85 some would even say i got an n86..
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hopefuli tis phone wil not failed us becoz of the non xenon flash
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QUOTE(killerloop81 @ Feb 18 2009, 01:25 PM)
hopefuli tis phone wil not failed us becoz of the non xenon flash
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Hope so, but afterall it is an 8MP phone so I think it still got its own fan/user... smile.gif
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the release date is on Jun.. argh.. i just need it right now... can someone post the white color one...?? I thout I saw it yesterday but has been taken down already...
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QUOTE(little_pixie @ Feb 18 2009, 02:53 PM)
the release date is on Jun.. argh.. i just need it right now... can someone post the white color one...?? I thout I saw it yesterday but has been taken down already...
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I'm officially so drooling with white n86.. the surface most likely as same as N97, but I like it more because of the keypad and and the lights effect.. should I choose this phone over N79????? Ngehhehee... I have to wait wait wait...
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QUOTE(little_pixie @ Feb 18 2009, 03:02 PM)
I'm officially so drooling with white n86.. the surface most likely as same as N97, but I like it more because of the keypad and and the lights effect.. should I choose this phone over N79????? Ngehhehee... I have to wait wait wait...
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N86 = 375 Euro
N97 = 576 Euro...

Both out on June 2009... Make your choice and saving now... smile.gif
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 18 2009, 03:11 PM)
N86 = 375 Euro
N97 = 576 Euro...

Both out on June 2009... Make your choice and saving now... smile.gif
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LOL... I'm a student meh.. so choosing N97 will burn my bank account so bad lah.. hehehe.. It is as same as N85 price when it first release..??
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The upside of having LEDs as the flash is that you can use it as a light source for capturing videos at night and the cost savings and batt life.

Maybe the LEDs will surprise us, who knows? Maybe the LEDs will be brighter and could snap pics faster than what we expect?
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Actually, I I prefer snapping photo without flash... My face will turn ugly, oily and brighter when snapping photo with flash... Without flash, the atmosphere would be so calm and natural...
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Feb 18 2009, 03:51 PM)
The upside of having LEDs as the flash is that you can use it as a light source for capturing videos at night and the cost savings and batt life.

Maybe the LEDs will surprise us, who knows? Maybe the LEDs will be brighter and could snap pics faster than what we expect?
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Perhaps maybe, as in the review stated this phone comes with new genaration LED flash different from Nokia LED phone now... More stronger and better...
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QUOTE(little_pixie @ Feb 18 2009, 04:02 PM)
Actually, I I prefer snapping photo without flash... My face will turn ugly, oily and brighter when snapping photo with flash... Without flash, the atmosphere would be so calm and natural...
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As their review they say it is the third generation LED flash...
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The phone looks very nice in white

Hope that the 3rd generation LED flash can fight the Xenon Flash biggrin.gif
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^ Agree with you.. White rules!!! I really need this phone just like right now.. I'll get people annoyed already.. hahhaa...
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QUOTE(felicious @ Feb 18 2009, 06:49 PM)
The phone looks very nice in white

Hope that the 3rd generation LED flash can fight the Xenon Flash biggrin.gif
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Xenon is totally different from LED... But I believe the 3rd generation LED should be brighter and clearer...
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White is always made for girls...  wub.gif

Xenon is totally different from LED... But I believe the 3rd generation LED should be brighter and clearer...
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brows.gif Brighter than Xenon ???
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:02 PM)
brows.gif Brighter than Xenon ???
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brows.gif Brighter than Xenon ???
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haha.. brighter than predecessor LED; but dont think it can outdo xenon. but sometimes, LED flash can minimise chances of overexposed photos;because it is weaker but good for macro sometimes.
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guys also can wear white... tongue.gif
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Yea no prob, as long as anything you like suits youself, go for it... Dont care what other people talk about it... smile.gif
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i wonder why only 2 colours. i like phones in red! HOT-ness !!
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gosh nokia, i am soooo disappointed.. n86 is a big disappointment.. i was expecting so much more for the n8x series and this one came up.. led flash only? come on.. pls make xenon standard ok.. and the design is ugly.. it looks so disgusting with its matte look and quirky buttons.. this is by far the ugliest phone and most disappointing phone ever existed. i was wishing something that would top the already-perfect n82 but instead this came up..


Added on February 19, 2009, 3:12 amthe back of the phone is just retarded and looks outdated.. worst back cover ever..

and what is the use of 8 mp without xenon?

sorry guya i'm just really frustrated over this n86 right now.. i tot they'll put a xenon and somethign similar or more beautiful design than the n85.. i'm just really really disappointed.. this is nothing but just a boost of megapixels and downgrade of design..i was expecting sooo much more.. to have nokia slap this bloody- ugly- non-xenon camera phone thrown at us.. what an insult to smartphones

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QUOTE(vetkin_gray @ Feb 19 2009, 03:05 AM)
gosh nokia, i am soooo disappointed.. n86 is a big disappointment.. i was expecting so much more for the n8x series and this one came up.. led flash only? come on.. pls make xenon standard ok.. and the design is ugly.. it looks so disgusting with its matte look and quirky buttons.. this is by far the ugliest phone and most disappointing phone ever existed. i was wishing something that would top the already-perfect n82 but instead this came up..


Added on February 19, 2009, 3:12 amthe back of the phone is just retarded and looks outdated.. worst back cover ever..

and what is the use of 8 mp without xenon?

sorry guya i'm just really frustrated over this n86 right now.. i tot they'll put a xenon and somethign similar or more beautiful design than the n85.. i'm just really really disappointed.. this is nothing but just a boost of megapixels and downgrade of design..i was expecting sooo much more.. to have nokia slap this bloody- ugly- non-xenon camera phone thrown at us.. what an insult to smartphones
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Wow you seems hot about it... Dude even N97 also just LED flash not Xenon, maybe the cost for making a Xenon flash phone is expensive so Nokia decided to pull it out... The design not bad, rather than the old ones squarish design...
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this is the first nokia phone with 8 megapixel .. hopefully it will be better than the other phones
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QUOTE(shamnemesis @ Feb 19 2009, 03:19 AM)
this is the first nokia phone with 8 megapixel .. hopefully it will be better than the other phones
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Nokia's move to use LED and improving the technology is the right one. One day LEDs will be able to compete with the Xenon in terms of speed and brightness. LED already has 3 advantages to it that Xenon cannot compete, battery life, torchlight capability and cost.

Just because Xenon is better doesn't mean every manufacturer has to go for it, then what happens to LED? Trust me, LEDs are just waiting to pwn the Xenon. It probaably won't be brighter than the Xenon, at least it could probably come close, without the energy sucking and cost inflating properties of Xenon.

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Price of N85 is already over 2K. This will be 2K+++ or 3K? Sometimes an 8MP camera may not do justice to the pic. Hope the picture quality of this N86 matches up to the N95 or is even better. I need a good camera phone. Seen the Samsung 8MP phones pics. They are not very impressive.
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QUOTE(vetkin_gray @ Feb 19 2009, 03:05 AM)
gosh nokia, i am soooo disappointed.. n86 is a big disappointment.. i was expecting so much more for the n8x series and this one came up.. led flash only? come on.. pls make xenon standard ok.. and the design is ugly.. it looks so disgusting with its matte look and quirky buttons.. this is by far the ugliest phone and most disappointing phone ever existed. i was wishing something that would top the already-perfect n82 but instead this came up..


Added on February 19, 2009, 3:12 amthe back of the phone is just retarded and looks outdated.. worst back cover ever..

and what is the use of 8 mp without xenon?

sorry guya i'm just really frustrated over this n86 right now.. i tot they'll put a xenon and somethign similar or more beautiful design than the n85.. i'm just really really disappointed.. this is nothing but just a boost of megapixels and downgrade of design..i was expecting sooo much more.. to have nokia slap this bloody- ugly- non-xenon camera phone thrown at us.. what an insult to smartphones
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Design wise..it's a bit different, just a bit diff from n81, n85 and n96. i guess that's okay for me.

but for the flash nokia says that it's a 3rd generation led meaning it is more powerful and has a higher range.

you said u wanted xenon flash right?

KEEP this in mind:

1. xenon flash will most probably make the n86 more expensive than it already is
2. xenon flash will drain much much more battery power and from what u can see now the n82 is the perfect example because it has the lowest battery life compared to all the 5mp N-series phones...even with a smaller and dimmer (less brighter) screen size.

3. from what i can see, i u really need numerous good pics with battery life to spare for calling people on the phone and other things, a LED flash phone would be a much sensible choice because of the much better battery life.

4. if you wanted xenon so much with 8mp then i suggest buying a digital camera or even a DSLR at n86's price range.
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alpha's right, it is afterall a smart phone. It'll be a pity if you used up all your battery for pictures but don't have enough charge to go to the net to blog it.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Feb 19 2009, 10:54 AM)
Design wise..it's a bit different, just a bit diff from n81, n85 and n96. i guess that's okay for me.

but for the flash nokia says that it's a 3rd generation led meaning it is more powerful and has a higher range.

you said u wanted xenon flash right?

KEEP this in mind:

1. xenon flash will most probably make the n86 more expensive than it already is
2. xenon flash will drain much much more battery power and from what u can see now the n82 is the perfect example because it has the lowest battery life compared to all the 5mp N-series phones...even with a smaller and dimmer (less brighter) screen size.

3. from what i can see, i u really need numerous good pics with battery life to spare for calling people on the phone and other things, a LED flash phone would be a much sensible choice because of the much better battery life.

4. if you wanted xenon so much with 8mp then i suggest buying a digital camera or even a DSLR at n86's price range.
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Actually I don't care much about Xenon - which if you study the quality of the photos taken by my K850i and using Xenon flash, it's pretty overexposed. What I actually wanted to say is, phone is a phone.

It is true that nowadays, a phone can do multiple jobs, but for sure the main function of a phone is to get connected and not to take photo. For me, if you want to take proper photos, you can simply use your DSLR, or your digicam, easy and obviously no lag.

Know what, the main point that I always looking for if I wanna buy a phone is how long its standby time and call time. It has need to worth your money dude..
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QUOTE(shamnemesis @ Feb 19 2009, 03:19 AM)
this is the first nokia phone with 8 megapixel .. hopefully it will be better than the other phones
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QUOTE(little_pixie @ Feb 19 2009, 01:30 PM)
Actually I don't care much about Xenon - which if you study the quality of the photos taken by my K850i and using Xenon flash, it's pretty overexposed. What I actually wanted to say is, phone is a phone.

It is true that nowadays, a phone can do multiple jobs, but for sure the main function of a phone is to get connected and not to take photo. For me, if you want to take proper photos, you can simply use your DSLR, or your digicam, easy and obviously no lag.

Know what, the main point that I always looking for if I wanna buy a phone is how long its standby time and call time. It has need to worth your money dude..
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Yea sometimes Zenon light are too strong, but if built with Nokia then it will be superb... (Dont compare with K850i)... Let me show you an example photo taken via N82 with Zenon lights with Close-up Mode... (This is real photo, not edited or whatsoever, click photo to enlarged for actual size of it)

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Now you see why Zenon Flash is so important under some circumstances...

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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 19 2009, 01:46 PM)
Yea sometimes Zenon light are too strong, but if built with Nokia then it will be superb... (Dont compare with K850i)... Let me show you an example photo taken via N82 with Zenon lights with Close-up Mode... (This is real photo, not edited or whatsoever, click photo to enlarged for actual size of it)

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Now you see why Zenon Flash is so important under some circumstances...
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For sure if xenon is being installed for N86, the phone will be a great phone... I know what you mean... My K850i is so like pasar malam made punya when I took photo with Xenon.. LOL!!!
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 19 2009, 01:37 PM)
Nokia first 8mp with no Xenon flash  doh.gif
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advantages of a phone's xenon flash is usually at medium range... at close range the picture will be overexposed even on the n82. this is a fact.

yes xenon flash does make the picture colour reproduction as real as it should. and usually leds will make it somewhat a diff colour tone..but it is hardly noticable in a normal photo...so this is not that important for a normal user. a photo-eccentric user will but either a digital camera or a dslr or normal slr.

Yes, Zenon Flash is so important under some circumstances...but take in mind that for n86 to be a great SMARTPHONE, it must also have a good battery life.

N82 is not a really great phone: medium to medium low battery life (normal usage with picture taking, etc), smaller screen size, much dimmer/lower brightness screen but N82 is a great CAMERAPHONE, only because of the 5mp camera with xenon flash.

If n86 wants to be a great CAMERAPHONE maybe it should have xenon flash but it will greatly reduce battery life.
maybe nokia wants it to be a great SMARTPHONE and that means having a good battery life. take note that the led on the n86 is a newer type and should be better
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That why no point for us to keep on talking about this Xenon and LED... Just wait the real things to arrived and see the result ourself... I believe Nokia not stupid either, they will produce the best Symbian phone all the way...
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yeah... complaining here won't do a thing. if u like it buy it if you want xenon go buy a digital camera or dslr or n82 or other samsung phones..
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comparing xenon and led flash, let's see..

n95 with dual led flash versus n82 with xenon flash

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Indoor, medium light conditions

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huge difference.. that's why n82 is one of the best-selling and also one of the highest rated nokia smartphones in the market.. you don't know how a simple "xenon-equipped" cameraphone can convince so much buyers inspite of n82's low battery...

right now let's wait to see how the so-called "3rd gen led flash" will fare..
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i know how a simple "xenon-equipped" cameraphone can "DECEIVE" so many buyers inspite of n82's low battery. popular doesn't make it better yo.

plus, most users who don't read forums or reviews won't know about the low battery problem.

personally i would prefer a phone that i can depend on whenever i want to call or receive an important call plus all the things that n82 can do.
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ok ok..chill down alpha_company..
i don know what is your grudge towards N82, but i am using it for a week now, and it's still ok..battery is slightly weak, but it's ok for me..
just think of it this way...obviously, when nokia come out with the first 8MP, which is N86, by default people will think of it as a camera phone, and most of us here would normally think that a camera phone will only be completed with a xenon flash...
it's just pure opinion actually, no point getting all fired up over it..
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im not angry at n82..seriously.. biggrin.gif

i used an n81 as u know...u r a previous user of n81 also right.. quite expensive price but camera suxx..right?

most people won't take notice of a xenon flash or dont even know what a xenon flash is..

the people that argues about this lack of xenon flash will be people who read up on the reviews and people who posts in forums..

bottom line is, people will still buy n86
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yes, i know what you are trying to say, most end users out there never even heard symbian before, or hardly know what it is, even though they are using a s60v3 device..so you can imagine people that knows what is a xenon flash..but for us here that knows all about this things, we cannot help but to ask for perfection..it's human nature, we never get satisfied.

throw all those aside, this is what i think of nokia for their recent moves:
nokia is being ignorance in the phone market lately..
for example, look at the design from N81, N78, N85, N79, N97 and going on..
they are basically the same mirror, glossy surface..just different colour..

also, for some people who look around other brand 8MP phones..they have face detection, smile shots and stuff, and samsung's new phone even provide video recording on 720p, but there is no info on this device capable of doing all the above..
and the thing that let me down the most, since nokia is putting all those theme effect, and larger res for their touch device, they should start using back the OMAP chipset they gave up, it provides much higher performance..some will say price matters, but the thing is, when you are already spending RM2.5k on a phone, i don think it matters if it's another RM200 if you really like the phone, and due to the OMAP, you phone specs can cope with more softwares in the future due to it's processing power, and as for now, people are already playing quake 3 on N82...

for people that thinks this is overkillings, i have experience on this..
i was using N81 8GB before i got N82, and i remember clearly that when i am playing ONE(ngage game) at my n81, i have to turn off the lighting just to ensure better gameplay framerate..this is a proof that nokia's phone spec itself are slowly incapable of coping with their own gaming platform..irony...
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Enough already.. Nokia's Focus is correct ..make Good Handphones 1st not CameraPhones. The objective of the N82 was to prove that Xenon Capability on a phone is too much draining the rest of the fatures as a whole. You choose wether you want a camera or a phone.. Sometimes you cant have both of two world..Get an N82 with extra batteries. alrite already

Only consumers are fools to think N86 is somethin new.. Its just basiccaly N85 with 8MP on it..with rounded buttons.. lol

Im a nokia user.. but surely im a consumer 1st then nokia fanboy 2nd..

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well..i didnt really say it's off course..as alpha_company said, LED is getting better and better, and i agree with that..just stating out why people here arguing about this..
put the camera flash discussion aside for a while.i think nokia can do better in camera software, like face detection..
also, nokia havent really been have much breakthrough on video recording as well..if they can actually dump in 720p recording like samsung acme,this phone will be even popular after some price drop
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Feb 20 2009, 12:21 AM)
yes, i know what you are trying to say, most end users out there never even heard symbian before, or hardly know what it is, even though they are using a s60v3 device..so you can imagine people that knows what is a xenon flash..but for us here that knows all about this things, we cannot help but to ask for perfection..it's human nature, we never get satisfied.

throw all those aside, this is what i think of nokia for their recent moves:
nokia is being ignorance in the phone market lately..
for example, look at the design from N81, N78, N85, N79, N97 and going on..
they are basically the same mirror, glossy surface..just different colour..

also, for some people who look around other brand 8MP phones..they have face detection, smile shots and stuff, and samsung's new phone even provide video recording on 720p, but there is no info on this device capable of doing all the above..
and the thing that let me down the most, since nokia is putting all those theme effect, and larger res for their touch device, they should start using back the OMAP chipset they gave up, it provides much higher performance..some will say price matters, but the thing is, when you are already spending RM2.5k on a phone, i don think it matters if it's another RM200 if you really like the phone, and due to the OMAP, you phone specs can cope with more softwares in the future due to it's processing power, and as for now, people are already playing quake 3 on N82...

for people that thinks this is overkillings, i have experience on this..
i was using N81 8GB before i got N82, and i remember clearly that when i am playing ONE(ngage game) at my n81, i have to turn off the lighting just to ensure better gameplay framerate..this is a proof that nokia's phone spec itself are slowly incapable of coping with their own gaming platform..irony...
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yeah i agree with u and do understand.

by the way, n81 i think is the grandfather for all the recent design of nokia phones.. hehe don't u agree? n81 then n78 and dont forget the VERY similarly designed n96.

yeah i also kept myself updated of newer samsung phones like omnia, innov8 and the new replacement for innov8.. specs wise these samsung phones are phenomenal like face detection, video recording at 120fps etc...wow! and even more..

i own an n95 8gb and the OMAP does make the game much smoother and better looking. plus i think it processes the pictures taken much better and faster than 5MP non omap based phones like n85 or n79. but the downside of omap is it does eat up more batt life than non omap based phones.

n97 will have xenon right? or am i wrong? the diff with nokia is nokia is widely used so easier to find cheaper replacement parts and easier to charge ur phone maybe because ur friends are probably using nokia also. nokia is getting too comfortable with it's position in the phone market.

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N97 will not be equipped with xenon..

the only nokia cameraphones with it is n82 and 6220 classic.. out of these two, n82 is the most decent one.. but it had a few hiccups like so-so design, no navi wheel, dim light etc.. that's why i needed something that could actually top n82..

having xenon doesn't necessarily drown the battery life.. take for example k850 and samsung g810. battery life is decent. what is important is how the drivers and hardware work with each other. nokia's idea of disabandoning xenon is just absurd.

btw, n85 had the perfect design that i desired.. if only n86 had similar design like n85, with gud navi wheel, better processing, and with xenon.. i'll be the first one to grab it. so right now i'll just wait for that phone to come..

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k850 has both xenon and led right? it has a smaller screen, screen that displays 256k and that consumes less battery power than n82. this could explain for it having a decent batt life

g810's xenon flash is not as strong as n82 and some say the flash capability is comparable to new leds in other phones..ive read this in reviews. this could explain for it having decent batt life

the most important thing here to take note is that n82 uses omap chip inside it like n95 and this chip eats up more power than devices that doesnt have it
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Come on guys this thread is talking about N86 its review and first impression... Is not for disscussing Xenon and other phone, please go stay to topic guys, please...
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okay then... design wise the n86 looks kinda cheap to me. i know it is expensive but i also want other people who sees the phone at first glance to say that it is expensive and not just shiny...

like n96 with the silver all around the sides of it's body, it makes the phone look expensive/ sophisticated. and nokia should integrate some of this design in n86 and not just the shinyness of the body..
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ok..my first impression of this phone, is a n85 with 8MP camera + 8GB internal storage...well done nokia, yet another 90% similar design
if you look close enough at the slider set, it's very very similar with the one n85 has, but that one acceptable, as n85 slider is really good
but other then that..the design, the keys(except for the menu key), the camera protector..
why can't nokia just come out with a something more unique..
i dont expect them to use different style for each of their phone, but glossy style have been use for how many phones already...nokia seriously need another phone designer...
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this phone isn;t shiny enough.. it has a really grainy look. don't you guys think? the back looks matte. the rounded keys are the most hideous part of the phone, seem very outdated.. the slashing soft keys is a bit too over the top and distracting enough to make you take notice of it.. the back cover looks really cheap with really nothing to be proud off.. conclusion i wouldn't want to be seen carrying this ugly junk with me. i oso agree that nokia needs a new phone designer.. nokia has been quite infamous with the design of their phone..
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But I think the finishing and quality is better compare to older model... 5800XM has a nice grip feel at the back cover... Hope this N86 does the same too...
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QUOTE(vetkin_gray @ Feb 20 2009, 11:36 AM)
this phone isn;t shiny enough.. it has a really grainy look. don't you guys think? the back looks matte. the rounded keys are the most hideous part of the phone, seem very outdated.. the slashing soft keys is a bit too over the top and distracting enough to make you take notice of it.. the back cover looks really cheap with really nothing to be proud off.. conclusion i wouldn't want to be seen carrying this ugly junk with me. i oso agree that nokia needs a new phone designer.. nokia has been quite infamous with the design of their phone..
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i do agree with u on the keys..it looks ugly when it's rounded like that..it doesnt look sophisticated at all like an N-series phone should.

maybe the back cover is something like n95 8gb's cover.

are the sides on the front slider like e71's metal sides?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Feb 20 2009, 03:32 PM)
i do agree with u on the keys..it looks ugly when it's rounded like that..it doesnt look sophisticated at all like an N-series phone should.

maybe the back cover is something like n95 8gb's cover.

are the sides on the front slider like e71's metal sides?
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ya, it seems so, but maybe not also
nokia has been using cheap material to cut cost and make their phones as affordable as possible, and since plastic is cheaper then metal, i think it's plastic with metal-like paint..
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Nokia want to use as much advantage first
what i mean is they wanted to give the old function and just add one thing better than later only release a better phone with better feature and this cycle will repeat again and again
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yes yes!! indeed...first N95, and N81, then the combine them, become N85 and N96..now that n85 is sellable, they try to boost this one by adding a higher MP camera with no improvement software wise..unless nokia put in face detection(and other sweet functions) and/or it's capable of recording in HD, i wouldn't be thrilled..

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QUOTE(vetkin_gray @ Feb 20 2009, 01:56 AM)
N97 will not be equipped with xenon..

the only nokia cameraphones with it is n82 and 6220 classic.. out of these two, n82 is the most decent one.. but it had a few hiccups like so-so design, no navi wheel, dim light etc.. that's why i needed something that could actually top n82..

having xenon doesn't necessarily drown the battery life.. take for example k850 and samsung g810. battery life is decent. what is important is how the drivers and hardware work with each other. nokia's idea of disabandoning xenon is just absurd.

btw, n85 had the perfect design that i desired.. if only n86 had similar design like n85, with gud navi wheel, better processing, and with xenon.. i'll be the first one to grab it. so right now i'll just wait for that phone to come..
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Is n97 similar to x1 ?
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Is n97 similar to x1 ?
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 21 2009, 02:02 PM)
Is n97 similar to x1 ?
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I think same as N97 but X1 is metal dude like E71...
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I think same as N97 but X1 is metal dude like E71...
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 21 2009, 06:56 PM)
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 21 2009, 06:56 PM)
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i really love the metal casing like iphone or e71... even if the phone has low specs.. it's high in build quality.
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I think only the current and future "E" Series Nokia are built with Steel... Not others...

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wat da????
8MP with LED?

what don't just put a spotlight in that fon yo? rather than a baby LED
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Feb 22 2009, 08:45 PM)
wat da????
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what don't just put a spotlight in that fon yo? rather than a baby LED
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wat da????
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what don't just put a spotlight in that fon yo? rather than a baby LED
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Sometimes, it can be a gimmick. Hopefully, the LEDs can prove me wrong.
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wat is price like on this phone ? any assumption ah ?
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QUOTE(AhNong @ Feb 22 2009, 10:30 PM)
wat is price like on this phone ? any assumption ah ?
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Not to critisize but tis phone do look lame to me compared to other 8mp camera monsters.They keypad looks not so good...and the camera no xenon flash.And try viewing the picture captured comparison for SE C905,Samsung Innov8,Samsung Pixon and Samsung Renoir and gsmarena.com.U will notice the flash produced by the LED isnt so good..the results arent satisfying..but tis 1 has dual Led..i wonder how good it is compared to single led and xenon flash...anyhow the design doesnt look too good,looks dull..Samsung,LG and even SE had already released the 8mp camera phone..now Nokia only released it..duh and it doesnt hav any attractiveness on it compare to the rest.Now Sony IDOU is coming too tis year...aiyoyo nokia..ganbateh la~

Anyway juz some personal opinion tongue.gif

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QUOTE(AhNong @ Feb 22 2009, 10:30 PM)
wat is price like on this phone ? any assumption ah ?
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375 Euro, so you can do the maths now...


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QUOTE(Duckies @ Feb 23 2009, 01:12 AM)
Not to critisize but tis phone do look lame to me compared to other 8mp camera monsters.They keypad looks not so good...and the camera no xenon flash.And try viewing the picture captured comparison for SE C905,Samsung Innov8,Samsung Pixon and Samsung Renoir and gsmarena.com.U will notice the flash produced by the LED isnt so good..the results arent satisfying..but tis 1 has dual Led..i wonder how good it is compared to single led and xenon flash...anyhow the design doesnt look too good,looks dull..Samsung,LG and even SE had already released the 8mp camera phone..now Nokia only released it..duh and it doesnt hav any attractiveness on it compare to the rest.Now Sony IDOU is coming too tis year...aiyoyo nokia..ganbateh la~

Anyway juz some personal opinion  tongue.gif
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This the first 8MP Symbian S60 phone, so I think the above comparison is just normal 8MP phone in which the software for them is limited... Correc me if Im wrong... smile.gif

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The Samsung Innov8 is the first 8MP Symbian S60 phone. smile.gif
Nevertheless, the lens being used in the N86 8MP is quite interesting.
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Doesn't look like an ultimate phone at all..maybe its a low cost 8MP phone. Economy not good..phone quality also lower
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I think it's more of a smartphone compared to the other 8mp phone.
It'll be great as a phone IMO rather than a camera phone.
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QUOTE(Mr. Green @ Feb 23 2009, 07:26 AM)
The Samsung Innov8 is the first 8MP Symbian S60 phone. smile.gif
Nevertheless, the lens being used in the N86 8MP is quite interesting.
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You mean Carl Zeiss Lens on N86???

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QUOTE(Mr. Green @ Feb 23 2009, 07:26 AM)
The Samsung Innov8 is the first 8MP Symbian S60 phone. smile.gif
Nevertheless, the lens being used in the N86 8MP is quite interesting.
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the aperture can automatic change at F2.8/3.2/4.8

which can control the light amount entering the image sensor

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You mean Carl Zeiss Lens on N86???
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QUOTE(Mr. Green @ Feb 23 2009, 07:07 PM)
What I was talking about was the wide-angle lens. smile.gif
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Feb 26 2009, 05:44 AM)
Yup maybe... It izzin't wide enough... smile.gif
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Feb 26 2009, 01:38 PM)
Why leh ?  hmm.gif
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meaning the camera is not wide angled?? like wide screen lcd's?
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Maybe, Im also not sure what is he asking about???
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i think he was talking about wide angled shots...i think newer samsung supports this kind of photoshoot because of the wide angle lens
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This phone looks yummy drool.gif





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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Feb 28 2009, 07:51 PM)
This phone looks yummy drool.gif




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But the Euro price will still varu right cant be the exact price conversion frm euro of this phone price to MYR.... each market different value right?

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 1 2009, 12:22 AM)
But the Euro price will still varu right cant be the exact price conversion frm euro of this phone price to MYR.... each market different value right?
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375 Euro = MYR + Tax = ???
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Nothing much special. Better wait for N97 ~
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Feb 27 2009, 04:15 PM)
i think he was talking about wide angled shots...i think newer samsung supports this kind of photoshoot because of the wide angle lens
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Mar 1 2009, 12:34 AM)
375 Euro = MYR + Tax = ???
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 1 2009, 12:22 AM)
But the Euro price will still varu right cant be the exact price conversion frm euro of this phone price to MYR.... each market different value right?
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yes correct...its like the price of ORI 5800xm in malaysia and singapore.

in malaysia rm13++ in singapore rm18++ . big diff

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QUOTE(gregxin @ Feb 28 2009 @ 11:29 PM)
Garmin 5.00.30 has bug also.

I found out a bug. When you set a destination to go, you can see 3 buttons at bottom.

One is speed metre or distance.

Next one is return to menu.

The other is the time left for destination. (BUT IF YOU PRESS THIS KEY THEN GARMIN IS HANG!!!!!!!!!! HAVE TO TURN OFF GARMIN AND START AGAIN)
I think 5.00.40 will be came out bcoz of this.

I tried at 2 5800s.
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Added on February 17, 2009, 11:08 am
Pencil is replaced by "#" for all new NOKIA now...
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What is pencil??
Er...besides that , did Nokia N86 8MP got navi wheel function??

AND WHICH PHONE YOU PREFER? N85 OR N86??(BASED ON THE CURRENTLY PHONE'S PRICE AND N86 EXPECT TO BE RM1740 )

Just my curiousity and desperation for the opinion about this 2 phones. biggrin.gif
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Of course N86, coz with 8MP and new genaration Dual LED Flash Led...
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Current calculation maybe RM17++ but depends on regional sales value i recon. So till the news is out on the release we cant predict the exact price....
For me i would prefer the N86 than N85 hands down... brows.gif

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QUOTE(yip_man @ Mar 1 2009, 04:57 PM)
Of course N86, coz with 8MP and new genaration Dual LED Flash Led...
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 1 2009, 05:13 PM)
Current calculation maybe RM17++ but depends on regional sales value i recon. So till the news is out on the release we cant predict the exact price....
For me i would prefer the N86 than N85 hands down... brows.gif
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OO..!! But in N85 there were 10 trial's N-gage game with 1 free license , so i'm wondering does the N86 have it also?? And do it have navi wheel? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 1 2009, 04:56 PM)
What is pencil??
Er...besides that , did Nokia N86 8MP got navi wheel function??

AND WHICH PHONE YOU PREFER? N85 OR N86??(BASED ON THE CURRENTLY PHONE'S PRICE AND N86 EXPECT TO BE RM1740 )

Just my curiousity and desperation for the opinion about this 2 phones. biggrin.gif
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if i remember correctly, i came across an article saying there's no navi wheel in n86.

well, the navi wheel dsnt really work fine in n85 anyway in reviews.

let's hope da price is not too steep.

i dont mind an n85 but n86 just looks sweeter, esp the white one!

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Nothing much special. Better wait for N97 ~
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the variable aperture is a huge step in getting closer to standalone digital cameras
hopefully soon even more mainstream phones will implement this
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n86 VS SE X1


since price look around the same
which wan looks unique ?


Added on March 2, 2009, 11:49 amsorry post wrong thread !! sorry smile.gif

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QUOTE(david9 @ Mar 2 2009, 10:50 AM)
n86 VS SE X1
since price look around the same
which wan looks unique ?


Added on March 2, 2009, 11:49 amsorry post wrong thread !! sorry smile.gif
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this phone can adjust the aperture...

it is great...

but now i have N85...
hmm~~~~

i should wait for this phone...
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how do you know the price?
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QUOTE(2kia @ Mar 2 2009, 03:00 AM)
if i remember correctly, i came across an article saying there's no navi wheel in n86.

well, the navi wheel dsnt really work fine in n85 anyway in reviews.

let's hope da price is not too steep.

i dont mind an n85 but n86 just looks sweeter, esp the white one!
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I never play navi wheel b4..!! So i wanna try it.. !!
Lastly, i felt that the design of those button are not so good. I did like the glass cover and also the back cover , but those button..!! kind of dissapointed about it.
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But the camera is not too bad what, 8MP dual led, new 3rd genaration led... Supposed to be better what...
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QUOTE(david9 @ Mar 2 2009, 10:50 AM)
n86 VS SE X1
since price look around the same
which wan looks unique ?


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But the camera is not too bad what, 8MP dual led, new 3rd genaration led... Supposed to be better what...
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haiz...about a few week ago i was planning to buy N85 but due to economy crisis so i expect the phone price will drop , but about a few days ago only i found the N86 article in a phone megazine . I guess i compare the price better. smile.gif

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im user of n81..planning to upgrade n85 this year when d price drop then 1k (used)..from my opinion n86 quite good actractive in their camera even without xenon...4 me d part quite not good is their keypad.like old SE one doh.gif
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QUOTE(gelanggi24 @ Mar 2 2009, 09:43 PM)
im user of n81..planning to upgrade n85 this year when d price drop then 1k (used)..from my opinion n86 quite good actractive in their camera even without xenon...4 me d part quite not good is their keypad.like old SE one  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kytz @ Mar 2 2009, 03:33 AM)
actually this phone is great, if what you need is better imaging capabilities
the variable aperture is a huge step in getting closer to standalone digital cameras
hopefully soon even more mainstream phones will implement this
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I think have to wait till the final product only can comment. Even though F2.4 can allow more light to enter, but in reality, for these phonecamera, how big is their sensor in the first place. If can let the light in but cant capture it also no use.
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but the N86 like no face detection am i right?
cause i heard my fren say
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Honestly, I really don't like the button and the navigate wheel. Same goes with N85. Still sticking with my N81
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 3 2009, 03:15 AM)
Honestly, I really don't like the button and the navigate wheel. Same goes with N85. Still sticking with my N81
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like tat a ?
i give the N86 attract cause it got 8 megapixel
and internal 8gb
but i read newspaper they say this phone no the face detection
but what's tat?
i consider how lo this phone like same function with W995
and w995 still got image stabilizer and face detection
this 2 phone also like same specs but like W995 pawn N86
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QUOTE(silrave @ Mar 3 2009, 12:34 PM)
haha
like tat a ?
i give the N86 attract cause it got 8 megapixel
and internal 8gb
but  i read newspaper they say this phone no the face detection
but what's tat?
i consider how lo this phone like same function with W995
and w995 still got image stabilizer and face detection
this 2 phone also like same specs but like W995 pawn N86
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Mar 3 2009, 11:48 AM)
man.... just hate the button and the navi wheel. If not, I would still thinking of buying it doh.gif
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QUOTE(Kytz @ Mar 2 2009, 03:33 PM)
if it's the price of the n86, the expected price is written in FP
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well, regarding the keypad, i kinda fancy it.. mainly bcuz it's white wit blue font..

although it looks a lot like SE w900's.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kytz @ Mar 2 2009, 03:33 PM)
if it's the price of the n86, the expected price is written in FP
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But can i know that the N86 got come along with 10 N-gage trial game with 1 free activation license?
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QUOTE(2kia @ Mar 3 2009, 01:46 PM)
what's FP?  blush.gif

well, regarding the keypad, i kinda fancy it.. mainly bcuz it's white wit blue font..

although it looks a lot like SE w900's..  tongue.gif
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June or July can you wait???

I think you better go for N82...
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go for N82?
why cause it is not a good phone?
or price high ?
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Added on March 7, 2009, 3:24 amgo for N82?
why cause it is not a good phone?
or price high ?
haha

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QUOTE(silrave @ Mar 7 2009, 03:09 AM)
go for N82?
why cause it is not a good phone?
or price high ?
haha


Added on March 7, 2009, 3:24 amgo for N82?
why cause it is not a good phone?
or price high ?
haha
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Mar 7 2009, 10:41 AM)
Cause SE is just announce a 12.1 m phone doh.gif
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wow 12.1 mpx phone..???

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QUOTE(kae7 @ Mar 7 2009, 10:59 AM)
???

wow 12.1 mpx phone..???

nokia is slow...
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???

wow 12.1 mpx phone..???

nokia is slow...
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Nokia now oni announced while samsung , lg , & SE launch already doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Mar 7 2009, 12:41 PM)
Ya lo  doh.gif
Nokia now oni announced while samsung , lg , & SE launch already  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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haha
but say true
i not dare use touch screen phone
cause last time i suddenly let my fren duno how to use
the lcd screen spoi = =
i not dare try touch screen
haha
hmm see how cause thinking buy N85 then N86 out
later wanna buy N86 then N87 out?lolx
but n85 and n86 function like same jz the keypad and 8megapixel
but do N86 got face detection?
may be go for walkman w995
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haha
but say true
i not dare use touch screen phone
cause last time i suddenly let my fren duno how to use
the lcd screen spoi = =
i not dare try touch screen
haha
hmm see how cause thinking buy N85 then N86 out
later wanna buy N86 then N87 out?lolx
but n85 and n86 function like same jz the keypad and 8megapixel
but do N86 got face detection?
may be go for walkman w995
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Really eager in knowing the exact price for it.... Or should i do up my N95? my battery is sucky ad... and the housing is old
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 7 2009, 12:26 PM)
And just about 2k + a bit only , if i'm not wrong . So is almost same price with N86 just expensive a few hundred ringgit.
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QUOTE(2kia @ Mar 7 2009, 11:54 PM)
how do u know?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 8 2009, 11:53 AM)
Read it from phone's megazine  icon_idea.gif
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Apparently i had found this article that compare N85 with N86 . But what i confuse was , it said that both phone had navi wheel , and the speaker of N86 is louder then N85 which does not fixed with what gsmarena had mentioned.
Can somebody explain this? sweat.gif

Link to the article : http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...ide_by_Side.php

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I checked nokia malaysia webby and it stated phone colours available are Indigo (black) so does that mean malaysia offers only Indigo (black) on ori sets? AP sets maybe white will be available as to me thats the better colour variant
N86 8MP

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the black color one not really nice, unless they make a color like n85 thats will be better. nway, the white version look clean n beautiful
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Mar 8 2009, 02:48 PM)
the black color one not really nice, unless they make a color like n85 thats will be better. nway, the white version look clean n beautiful
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 8 2009, 02:22 PM)
Apparently i had found this article that compare N85 with N86 . But what i confuse was , it said that both phone had navi wheel , and the speaker of N86 is louder then N85 which does not fixed with what gsmarena had mentioned.
Can somebody explain this?  sweat.gif

Link to the article : http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...ide_by_Side.php
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 8 2009, 02:22 PM)
Apparently i had found this article that compare N85 with N86 . But what i confuse was , it said that both phone had navi wheel , and the speaker of N86 is louder then N85 which does not fixed with what gsmarena had mentioned.
Can somebody explain this?  sweat.gif

Link to the article : http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...ide_by_Side.php
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after checking the link, i feel like if you own a N85(or a decent 5MP phone), there aint much point for u to change to N86..
yes, sure, the multiple aperture will help on photos, but think of it, the video recording is not a bit improved in terms of quality, record resolution and frames..this is a joke, cos higher MP means higher capability, so at least make a wide VGA resolution support...

dunno for u all, but i starting to think nokia just wanna make money so much that they just wanna put in tiny bit of new things on their phones and push as new product line..

anyway, those are if you already have a decent camera phone, for those using 3.2MP or lower, this phone will definitely be a great update..but my point is, if you're more of a video type of people comparing to taking photo, i think going for n85 will save more money

just my opinion though...
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Mar 8 2009, 11:17 PM)
after checking the link, i feel like if you own a N85(or a decent 5MP phone), there aint much point for u to change to N86..
yes, sure, the multiple aperture will help on photos, but think of it, the video recording is not a bit improved in terms of quality, record resolution and frames..this is a joke, cos higher MP means higher capability, so at least make a wide VGA resolution support...

dunno for u all, but i starting to think nokia just wanna make money so much that they just wanna put in tiny bit of new things on their phones and push as new product line..

anyway, those are if you already have a decent camera phone, for those using 3.2MP or lower, this phone will definitely be a great update..but my point is, if you're more of a video type of people comparing to taking photo, i think going for n85 will save more money

just my opinion though...
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Haha..i see. So the buyer just have to compare prices between the phone and make decision wisely.
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Haha..i see. So the buyer just have to compare prices between the phone and make decision wisely.
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Compare with SE Idou ?  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Mar 10 2009, 02:08 PM)
Are you interested i this phone ?  unsure.gif
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Well, if i'm say i'm not interest in this phone then i wont be in this thread. But still must depend on the product price lor. If the SE Idou just expensive a few hundred ringgit , maybe i will go for it. Furthermore, this phone also not bad , got some improvement.. ^^ ..!! I did prefer the dual slide phone compare to touch screen phone.. so yeah..! biggrin.gif
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Compare with SE Idou ?  unsure.gif
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i would fairly say Idou win this phone is so many ways...
big screen, camera itself, video recording is unknown, updated symbian s60 v5, menu animation, graphic capability..
but of course, this phone have more hardware keys, which is normally what a touch phone is lack off, other then that, i cannot really see what advantage on N86 have over SE idou..maybe the price??
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Mar 11 2009, 12:12 AM)
i would fairly say Idou win this phone is so many ways...
big screen, camera itself, video recording is unknown, updated symbian s60 v5, menu animation, graphic capability..
but of course, this phone have more hardware keys, which is normally what a touch phone is lack off, other then that, i cannot really see what advantage on N86 have over SE idou..maybe the price??
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Well..i have to agree with you. But what i like in N86 was the hardened glass that protect the phone from scratch. It also make the phone look cooler , but what i was dissapointes was , did you notice those small key use slightly below the screen didn't use much spaces. So it is still possible to make the screen to 2.8 and nokia didn't even bother about it..!! mad.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 11 2009, 01:04 AM)
Well..i have to agree with you. But what i like in N86 was the hardened glass that protect the phone from scratch. It also make the phone look cooler , but what i was dissapointes was , did you notice those small key use slightly below the screen didn't use much spaces. So it is still possible to make the screen to 2.8 and nokia didn't even bother about it..!!  mad.gif
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Idou price is surely a bomb when it reaches the market unless sony is having better marketing strategies. Well i am dissapointed with the keys on the N86 also could have been better.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Mar 11 2009, 10:29 AM)
Idou price is surely a bomb when it reaches the market unless sony is having better marketing strategies. Well i am dissapointed with the keys on the N86 also could have been better.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(doomx @ Mar 11 2009, 11:01 AM)
the keys are way better than the n85 what. now they are widely space i think msg-ing wont be a pain anymore
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Idou price is surely a bomb when it reaches the market unless sony is having better marketing strategies. Well i am dissapointed with the keys on the N86 also could have been better.. hmm.gif
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What is the symbian of this phone ?
waiting for this phone to release.
like it so much.
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 11 2009, 12:41 PM)
But the N85 key look more attractive. biggrin.gif
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But using the n85 long run also u will know sweet spots to press on the keypad.
So it depends on how fast are u getting used to it smile.gif
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What is the symbian of this phone ?
waiting for this phone to release.
like it so much.
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Yeah..2nd opinion.
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QUOTE(lim47 @ Mar 11 2009, 06:11 PM)
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Mar 12 2009, 05:43 PM)
if me i would like to use nokia.. because i dont like to use SE...
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i like both nokia n se. maybe omnia hd will make me also love samsung  biggrin.gif
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Currently don't have any interest in LG or Motorola.. tongue.gif
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i like both nokia n se. maybe omnia hd will make me also love samsung  biggrin.gif
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OIC  laugh.gif
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Then get Samsung Omnia. It's a great phone but a hole in your pocket.

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Erm..who got some secret information about when the Nokia N86 will be release?
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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 19 2009, 12:05 AM)
Too late cause i think everyone has their 8mp camera phone already  wub.gif
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8mp cameraphone doesnt mean that it beats 5mp cameraphones.

take in mind if the 8mp uses a smaller sensor size then the quality would be much lower than a 5mp cameraphone. plus flash quality also makes a difference.

the only good thing about 8mp over 5mp is that i can print large sized banners like 10 to 20 feet without enlarging the pic size.
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QUOTE(Mr. Green @ Mar 19 2009, 12:02 AM)
Thought it'd be out by June or something?
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Too late cause i think everyone has their 8mp camera phone already  wub.gif
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I hope N86 can take picture like this...
This picture was taken by my digital camera 7.1mp.. and no flash...
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coz we can take the picture like this... (still images)
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xenon flash is brighter and more powerful but sucks more battery power.

xenon also produces a picture with a better colour reproduction.
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Wah lau..that kind of picture by N86...mesti damn sellable item for 2009...
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QUOTE(shah_boy83 @ Mar 20 2009, 01:02 PM)
I hope N86 can take picture like this...
This picture was taken by my digital camera 7.1mp.. and no flash...
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And why we need xenon flash?
coz we can take the picture like this... (still images)
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for the bottom pic he used an n82 camera
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 20 2009, 10:37 PM)
for the bottom pic he used an n82 camera
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But i thought Xenon flash drained a lot of energy?
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yup it drains more power than a dual led flash, but it produces much better pictures in low light and indoor conditions...but what do u mean exactly..? i dont understand.. n86 doesnt have xenon flash
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yup it drains more power than a dual led flash, but it produces much better pictures in low light and indoor conditions...but what do u mean exactly..? i dont understand.. n86 doesnt have xenon flash
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xenon
Pros: better looking pics
cons: use more batt power

led/dual led
pros: use much less power
cons: not enough power to illuminate dark areas, pictures not good in lowlight or indoors..
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 21 2009, 12:55 AM)
xenon
Pros: better looking pics
cons: use more batt power

led/dual led
pros: use much less power
cons: not enough power to illuminate dark areas, pictures not good in lowlight or indoors..
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hmm... personally i want my phone to have a good battery life and by having a led/dual led phone the battery would last longer...

so i think i would prefer an n86 over n82...

but if there are larger capacity battery for later phones from nokia with xenon... i would take the xenon..but maybe it would be at least 2 -3 years before that happens..
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well the design is just slightly same as N81,N85,N96..
it is known as new generation of nokia..
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yeah well... the not so nice thing is the design... i can get an n81 and some would say i've got an n96..wow..

i could get an n85 and some would also say i got an n81..

but nokia's design is going in that direction...what to do..

same as SE too..their designs are going towards g705/w705/w995 design...reallllly similar in shape and size..

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 21 2009, 11:31 AM)
yeah well... the not so nice thing is the design... i can get an n81 and some would say i've got an n96..wow..

i could get an n85 and some would also say i got an n81..

but nokia's design is going in that direction...what to do..

same as SE too..their designs are going towards g705/w705/w995 design...reallllly similar in shape and size..
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their current design like n81's in my opinion are great but don't make it so much similar to other models because well, each user wants a phone that looks diff from the other model..a bit unique..

i dont want to get an N96 and having people say i have an n81..that's just what i dont want..
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but N85 is slightly different from N81 and N96..
but N96 is look alike N81..
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1st pic.. im using my digital camera canon powershot A550i..
2nd pic... im using Nokia n82..
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Attached Image
This pic was taken by n86..
Cool huh??
(got this pic from other site)
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yes that pic is nice..though at it's actual size it's more grainy than a daytime picture because there's very little lighting.. all cameraphones have this, it only differs in the degree of the graininess..
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Attached Image
This pic was taken by n86..
Cool huh??
(got this pic from other site)
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its awesome...anyway..the picture seems been resized and become smaller in size..
are u download it..??or save picture as[this will resize the pic]

anyway..mind to tell us the source of this picture..?
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& can tell me is that place in Malaysia ?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 21 2009, 11:09 AM)
hmm... personally i want my phone to have a good battery life and by having a led/dual led phone the battery would last longer...

so i think i would prefer an n86 over n82...

but if there are larger capacity battery for later phones from nokia with xenon... i would take the xenon..but maybe it would be at least 2 -3 years before that happens..
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Wow..that picture looked nice! So that is what the 3rd generation of dual LED.. biggrin.gif
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well the sample picture taken by n86 quite good at night..
at least not as bad as N95 and N95 8GB
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well the sample picture taken by n86 quite good at night..
at least not as bad as N95 and N95 8GB
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Nope.. I have one myself and it works really well. keep in mind that N95 8gb, N82 and N95, N73 has Tessar 2.8/5.6 and better aperture/focal length than newer N85, N79 and N96 (which in a way means that new isnt always better) plus all there of these new phones doesnt have OMAP 3D GPU which is on n82 n95 and n95 8gb..which helps in the image processing.

N73 n95 n95 8gb and n82 has a much more mature firmware that has better algorithm and image compression thus making it better. reviews will tell the same.

a quote from other forums : "I would personally prefer Nokia improved sensor and aperture instead of boosting megapixels. Consumers make assumptions like "an 8 megapixel camera is better than a 5 megapixel camera", but that is just nonsence if the 8 megapixel has shitty optics and/or sensor and/or smaller aperture size."


Consider this.. a THREE year old phone like N95 and TWO year old phones like N95 8GB and N82 can generally take a picture as good as new phones like n85 and n96 and the differences are not major. It means in 2 years since n82 came out, nokia hasn't made any significant or no progress in making their cameras better.

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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 22 2009, 03:28 PM)
Nope.. I have one myself and it works really well. keep in mind that N95 8gb, N82 and N95, N73 has Tessar 2.8/5.6 and better aperture/focal length than newer N85, N79 and N96 (which in a way means that new isnt always better) plus all there of these new phones doesnt have OMAP 3D GPU which is on n82 n95 and n95 8gb..which helps in the image processing.

N73 n95 n95 8gb and n82 has a much more mature firmware that has better algorithm and image compression thus making it better. reviews will tell the same.

a quote from other forums : "I would personally prefer Nokia improved sensor and aperture instead of boosting megapixels. Consumers make assumptions like "an 8 megapixel camera is better than a 5 megapixel camera", but that is just nonsence if the 8 megapixel has shitty optics and/or sensor and/or smaller aperture size."
Consider this.. a THREE year old phone like N95 and TWO year old phones like N95 8GB and N82 can generally take a picture as good as new phones like n85 and n96 and the differences are not major. It means in 2 years since n82 came out, nokia hasn't made any significant or no progress in making their cameras better.
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How much is the N86 will cost when it coming out
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not sure..some website stated that the price in range >> 375-400 Euros

which is about RM 1800 - RM 2200 [after tax]
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quite nice the pic. but can someone provide a LED'd camera samples?
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So if the phone release which phone will you prefer? N85 or N86? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 23 2009, 07:53 PM)
So if the phone release which phone will you prefer? N85 or N86? tongue.gif
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N86 see much better in features... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 22 2009, 03:28 PM)
Nope.. I have one myself and it works really well. keep in mind that N95 8gb, N82 and N95, N73 has Tessar 2.8/5.6 and better aperture/focal length than newer N85, N79 and N96 (which in a way means that new isnt always better) plus all there of these new phones doesnt have OMAP 3D GPU which is on n82 n95 and n95 8gb..which helps in the image processing.

N73 n95 n95 8gb and n82 has a much more mature firmware that has better algorithm and image compression thus making it better. reviews will tell the same.

a quote from other forums : "I would personally prefer Nokia improved sensor and aperture instead of boosting megapixels. Consumers make assumptions like "an 8 megapixel camera is better than a 5 megapixel camera", but that is just nonsence if the 8 megapixel has shitty optics and/or sensor and/or smaller aperture size."
Consider this.. a THREE year old phone like N95 and TWO year old phones like N95 8GB and N82 can generally take a picture as good as new phones like n85 and n96 and the differences are not major. It means in 2 years since n82 came out, nokia hasn't made any significant or no progress in making their cameras better.
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totally agree on alpha. used 3 model of them and i kept plenty of their photos. and the quality is yet on par if not better than any phone models available. having said that, there is also other phone can produce even better picture; those phone having a CCD sensor like imobile 902 and Sharp 903SH. however i reserve my comments on those photos to compare with 8mpx phone since i havent own either one of it. just wan to say that never to say a phone camera crap unless you really own one to compare.
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N86 still got what new features like software than N86
except camera?
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Mar 23 2009, 07:53 PM)
So if the phone release which phone will you prefer? N85 or N86? tongue.gif
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if i were given these two choices... i would say n86 as it has a better and newer generation led flash among other things like it's features..


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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Mar 23 2009, 08:25 PM)
totally agree on alpha. used 3 model of them and i kept plenty of their photos. and the quality is yet on par if not better than any phone models available. having said that, there is also other phone can produce even better picture; those phone having a CCD sensor like imobile 902 and Sharp 903SH. however i reserve my comments on those photos to compare with 8mpx phone since i havent own either one of it. just wan to say that never to say a phone camera crap unless you really own one to compare.
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yeah biggrin.gif CCD sensor camera which can yield superior quality than CMOS Censor... sharp 903 hard to get though cause it's only released in japan.

imobile 902 has a really good camera despite being cheaper than most if not all cameraphones and despite being an old phone.. " just wan to say that never to say a phone camera crap unless you really own one to compare." nod.gif

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brows.gif Of course in n86 lo...8mp ma laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 23 2009, 11:41 PM)
brows.gif Of course in n86 lo...8mp ma  laugh.gif
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again 8mp doesn't always mean the quality would be better.

a small sensor with 8mp would lose to a larger sensor with 5mp..

fyi, larger megapixels benefit people who do large format printing because the image maintains it's size and lessens the pixelization as the MP goes higher.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 24 2009, 01:56 AM)
again 8mp doesn't always mean the quality would be better.

a small sensor with 8mp would lose to a larger sensor with 5mp..

fyi, larger megapixels benefit people who do large format printing because the image maintains it's size and lessens the pixelization as the MP goes higher.
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yes exactly true it is still early to tell the secret behind N86's camera best is to wait and see brows.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 24 2009, 01:56 AM)
again 8mp doesn't always mean the quality would be better.

a small sensor with 8mp would lose to a larger sensor with 5mp..

fyi, larger megapixels benefit people who do large format printing because the image maintains it's size and lessens the pixelization as the MP goes higher.
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but then again,this one have variable aperture.
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Haha..i see. I cant wait for it to release already..!!!
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Haha..i see. I cant wait for it to release already..!!!
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QUOTE(Mr.Ken @ Mar 24 2009, 07:05 AM)
but then again,this one have variable aperture.
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yup a variable aperature, something that i think all nokia fans would be happy to hear... something to look forward to.

so please.. no idou talk here Dlim.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 25 2009, 09:19 PM)
yup a variable aperature, something that i think all nokia fans would be happy to hear... something to look forward to.

so please.. no idou talk here Dlim.
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When it gonna release? =( I can't wait for it.
By the way, the price estimate about rm2k ?
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When it gonna release? =( I can't wait for it.
By the way, the price estimate about rm2k ?
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the launch will be near because mbf card holders can already order the phone if im not mistaken.

ap set will come soon and official launch date will come a bit later..

price i do not know..
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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 25 2009, 06:28 PM)
Why dun you wait for Idou ?  wub.gif
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 26 2009, 12:14 AM)
the launch will be near because mbf card holders can already order the phone if im not mistaken.

ap set will come soon and official launch date will come a bit later..

price i do not know..
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 26 2009, 12:14 AM)
the launch will be near because mbf card holders can already order the phone if im not mistaken.

ap set will come soon and official launch date will come a bit later..

price i do not know..
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im cant give an exact date as i'm not sure myself. but i do not recommend buying the phone so soon as it will much much more expensive, and in the mean time you can read reviews and user opinions on this phone. So you can decide whether spending money on this phone is worth it or maybe u should get a cheaper 5mp N series like n82, n95 n85 n79 etc...
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When it gonna release? =( I can't wait for it.
By the way, the price estimate about rm2k ?
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should be cheaper than N85 launching price.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 26 2009, 03:07 AM)
im cant give an exact date as i'm not sure myself. but i do not recommend buying the phone so soon as it will much much more expensive, and in the mean time you can read reviews and user opinions on this phone. So you can decide whether spending money on this phone is worth it or maybe u should get a cheaper 5mp N series like n82, n95 n85 n79 etc...
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QUOTE(Mr.Ken @ Mar 26 2009, 06:57 AM)
should be cheaper than N85 launching price.
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probably so but it will still be more expensive than the current price of n85.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 26 2009, 08:44 PM)
probably so but it will still be more expensive than the current price of n85.
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Current N85 AP set or original?
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original price of n86 will of course be more expensive than ori n85. it's a new phone after all and has better specs than n85.

can't really tell about the ap price because it depends on how long it will take for ori to come in and the demand for this phone. if ori comes in earlier, ap price will be lower.

if ori comes in a bit late like much awaited 5800, then the early ap price will skyrocket through the roof..
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hey does anyone here know when is it launched in KL?
please kindly PM me...
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i can't wait for it..
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will this fon be good? i hate n85..
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for me ..i dun like SE so much..
it cannot do as nseries phone can do..

Nseries S60 phone has many thing that we can do...
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Mar 28 2009, 03:56 AM)
will this fon be good? i hate n85..
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Yeah i agree. I suspect it will be because of the variable aperture settings and higher mp (possibly better) camera. Flash capabilities are somewhat similar to older n-series phones i guess.

Physically i'm not so sure.. nokia needs to make a more durable phone and not just make it an eyecandy but later breaks...like cracked keypads, d pads etc..
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The design almost same as N85 , why nokia dont create some design special a bit ?
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QUOTE(ckming21 @ Mar 28 2009, 12:15 PM)
The design almost same as N85 , why nokia dont create some design special a bit ?
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I love this phone and cannot wait already.... plzz release it now.. hehehe...
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QUOTE(ckming21 @ Mar 28 2009, 12:15 PM)
The design almost same as N85 , why nokia dont create some design special a bit ?
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I think it's because this type of new design is getting more attention and better than previous n-series design like n73 n80 etc.

It derives from N81 and then n78, n96, n79, n85

maybe because the initial n81 design receives so much attention that nokia just want to keep it for a while longer.
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the most design i like from nokia is n85 design...so u know the drill ... nokia really know what their customer really want
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Mar 29 2009, 08:30 PM)
the most design i like from nokia is n85 design...so u know the drill ... nokia really know what their customer really want
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it is true.. i agreed with u...

n85 is stylish phone.. by the way..i will looking into this phone...stylish too
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and this phone has scratch resistant glass at the front panel which makes da phone looks solid.

but with that on, u can't escape the additional weight it gives

It comes in two colours... black (indigo) and white
I think the latter will be released later... or maybe not in this region .. sad.gif
Da white one looks seriously GREAT..

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QUOTE(blackrobin @ Mar 29 2009, 11:34 PM)
and this phone has scratch resistant glass at the front panel which makes da phone looks solid.

but with that on, u can't escape the additional weight it gives

It comes in two colours... black (indigo)  and white

Da white looks seriously GREAT..
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it reminds me W850i..has white and black colour..that must be great...will choose white when buy it
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but the bad thing about this type of design is an n96 would look like n81.. i dont want that to happen..

and you know what i mean.. we dont want our nokia phones to look like another model..especially if it's an inferior model to ours.
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From the released images, the white one comes with a white theme.. *drools*

if only it comes with a 2.8" screen with VGA resolution.

i'm using 5800 now. The screen is js amazing.. going back to QVGA feels like a downgrade..

nokia o nokia...
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yeah.. i wished an n85 had 2.8" or maybe n86 too..

i dont wanna go any smaller than 2.8". nobody wants a small screen like their friends..
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 29 2009, 11:58 PM)
yeah.. i wished an n85 had 2.8" or maybe n86 too..

i dont wanna go any smaller than 2.8". nobody wants a small screen like their friends..
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Too big la for a non touch screen phone
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not really...if u are a movie 2 go kaki, the bigger the screen and higher res, the better...
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we are going to meet at 8pm this monday but i waited him till 12.15am he still no show up.
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QUOTE(Dlim88 @ Mar 30 2009, 09:51 PM)
Too big la for a non touch screen phone
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too big for a non touch screen? if you're saying that, then you're saying that samsung innov8, n95 8gb and other high end phones are no good in terms of size?

a lot of people buy these 2.8" lcd phones because of the big screen among other features..

if you said 3.2" was too big for a non touch screen phone then maybe you're right.. but if 2.8", it's a proven best seller for non touch screen phone.

like BBXiong said, if you like movies or just like eyecandy.. a bigger screen would be the choice for you.
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3.2" still ok for non touch screen phone,manufacturer can make it even bigger like 3.5" by changing the form factor of the phone itself.
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QUOTE(Mr.Ken @ Mar 31 2009, 04:59 AM)
3.2" still ok for non touch screen phone,manufacturer can make it even bigger like 3.5" by changing the form factor of the phone itself.
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Big screen will drain the battery wo
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QUOTE(Mr.Ken @ Mar 31 2009, 04:59 AM)
3.2" still ok for non touch screen phone,manufacturer can make it even bigger like 3.5" by changing the form factor of the phone itself.
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yeah.. correct by changing the form factor of the phone.. but that will make the screen longer right and not wide like in 5800?
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Mar 31 2009, 02:40 PM)
yeah.. correct by changing the form factor of the phone.. but that will make the screen longer right and not wide like in 5800?
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that can be adjust,depend on how wide or how long u want the screen is.
3.2" is just the diagonal length.
the longer your screen the less wider it will but the diagonal length is still the same.
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yeah that is what i mean.. diagonally it's 3.2". like tv or lcd screen la.. well known fact already.

but a longer screen would make a phone taller and be less pocketable.
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u can make it shorter but it will be more wider and i think the aspect ratio will change also.
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to keep a resolution of the usual 320x240 like in so many nokia phones, i think 2.8" or 3.0" would be the max to keep the size of the phone pocketable.
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Does it need a lot cost to create a 2.8 inch phone? If not why don't the nokia use 2.8 line N95(8GB) instead of 2.6 . mad.gif

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lol maybe they lazy . tongue.gif but honestly i tink it takes quite some cost @@
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QUOTE(xiang88 @ Apr 1 2009, 01:00 AM)
lol maybe they lazy . tongue.gif but honestly i tink it takes quite some cost @@
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yeah..

anyway...i dun care too much about the screen size...above 2.4'...its already enough for me..

its up to you...diferent people,different idea... wink.gif
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Haha.. maybe but i guess i willing to pay more for the screen. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Apr 1 2009, 12:13 AM)
Does it need a lot cost to create a 2.8 inch phone? If not why don't the nokia use 2.8 line N95(8GB) instead of 2.6 .  mad.gif
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nokia need to put some differences into their phones so that it can be priced differently. n79 and n85 has the same specs but n85 has a bigger and better screen. if n79 also has the same screen size, it will be a direct competitor of n85 and nokia doesnt want that.

another thing is that the n series is more expensive with N-9x series and cheaper as it goes down to N-8x and N-7x. Of course nokia has to set a different class for each of the models..like n9x having bigger screen, and n8x having smaller screen than n9x, and n7x being a candybar phone.. u get the idea.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 4 2009, 01:09 AM)
nokia need to put some differences into their phones so that it can be priced differently. n79 and n85 has the same specs but n85 has a bigger and better screen. if n79 also has the same screen size, it will be a direct competitor of n85 and nokia doesnt want that.

another thing is that the n series is more expensive with N-9x series and cheaper as it goes down to N-8x and N-7x. Of course nokia has to set a different class for each of the models..like n9x having bigger screen, and n8x having smaller screen than n9x, and n7x being a candybar phone.. u get the idea.
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I see. *speechless* blush.gif
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well.. n97 is gonna be more expensive than n86 ..that's for sure.
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 7 2009, 12:44 AM)
well.. n97 is gonna be more expensive than n86 ..that's for sure.
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oh easy to answer.. should an older n95 8gb be more expensive than newer n85? go ask 3 year old..

if you're referring to the N9x series being more expensive than N8x series, you're wrong. n93i more expensive than n85? answer that
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 7 2009, 10:05 PM)
oh easy to answer.. should an older n95 8gb be more expensive than newer n85? go ask 3 year old..

if you're referring to the N9x series being more expensive than N8x series, you're wrong. n93i more expensive than n85? answer that
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n93 in different class and it is older

well i think there are no much differences about the price...sometime n8X is expensive[in specific class]...sometime n9X is expensive[in specific class]
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i think the pricing depends on year released and the features of the phone.

HIGH END features + newly released phone = Most expensive

High end + older phone = not so expensive

no so high end + new phone = not so expensive..

kinda like that la.. u get the point
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 7 2009, 10:45 PM)
i think the pricing depends on year released and the features of the phone.

HIGH END features + newly released phone = Most expensive

High end + older phone = not so expensive

no so high end + new phone = not so expensive..

kinda like that la.. u get the point
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I see. But ofcourse a 3 years old kid cant answer that , cause their brain still don't have this much ability to understand. tongue.gif
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A 3 years old kid also know how to answer that question.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Eguy1314 @ Apr 8 2009, 07:50 PM)
I see. But ofcourse a 3 years old kid cant answer that , cause their brain still don't have this much ability to understand.  tongue.gif
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obviously..
from my assumption,
higher spec = more exp
going further up the N series the price will increase and in each respective series eg N9x the price go up with the number N95<N95 8GB<896
N7x = entry level N series
N8x = intermediate
N9x = high end


Added on April 9, 2009, 6:40 am
QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 7 2009, 10:05 PM)
oh easy to answer.. should an older n95 8gb be more expensive than newer n85? go ask 3 year old..

if you're referring to the N9x series being more expensive than N8x series, you're wrong. n93i more expensive than n85? answer that
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its a old model bro,even my old 7610 will cost over 2k when it was new in town.

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QUOTE(Mr.Ken @ Apr 9 2009, 06:24 AM)
3 years old will not,trust me..
obviously..
from my assumption,
higher spec  = more exp
going further up the N series the price will increase and in each respective series eg N9x the price go up with the number N95<N95 8GB<896
N7x = entry level N series
N8x = intermediate
N9x = high end


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its a old model bro,even my old 7610 will cost over 2k when it was new in town.
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obviously, your answer right.
But from my assumption , the more people buy certain phone than the more price will drop for the certain phone.
SO that explained why N93i still so expensive even it was a old model N series.
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I just watched a live video of this phone at smashpop and to be honest, I love the black one right now!! I used to love this phone in white but, suddenly when I saw the steel finish at the side of the phone, then I felt the white one looked so cheap, compared to the black one.

Like I said, with steel finish at the side, and for the look-wise, this phone will kill N85 which I think looks so plastic... (N85 users, no heart feeling haa.. hehehe)

If N97 is too pricy, I'll take this babe... smile.gif
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hmm... was thinking about changing to N85... but haha N86 8mp now~ just need to wait for another half year i think~ T.T
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say april out....
until now haven't release?
Wait until when ?
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QUOTE(StraxorX @ Apr 20 2009, 07:47 PM)
say april out....
until now haven't release?
Wait until when ?
I cannot wait already. =(
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hey.. who said at april..

just wait la..

patient is virtue
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is true that the HP lauched on april..
some other country had already get to sell the HP..
but malaysia might be slower..
i heard is about june/july..
but forumer here said is around september..
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april out? maybe euro countries la.. donno.

malaysia will almost always have a much later official release date
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QUOTE(alpha_company @ Apr 25 2009, 12:27 AM)
april out? maybe euro countries la.. donno.

malaysia will almost always have a much later official release date
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Hoping it the price range like 5800 if not i will cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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Hoping it the price range like 5800 if not i will  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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think la bro.. the phone for sure selling about RM 2k ..

it is first 8MP in Nokia .. wink.gif
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QUOTE(GaminPro @ Apr 28 2009, 08:26 PM)
Hoping it the price range like 5800 if not i will  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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what!!? sure2 la it's not going to be rm1.4k

5800 only good in terms of music + touchscreen. camera wise 5800 3mp cam wins only to e71 and looses to older phones like 6500 slide, n73, 5610xm and n93i

rm2k upwards.
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How much do u guys think tthis phone is going to be?? for me, i guess it will be around RM2k ++
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Mostly 2k+. Eh..really want to know when it will release.
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i guess it will release around july , then follow by N97 at the end of the year
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i think over 2k one..because is first 8mp nokia phone..
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N86...been waiting for it...
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yea u r right Chris...i myself also wont buy the phone if it is juz released that day...
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the firmware unstable?
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yeap
can say that the firmware is not stable..
as well as the hardware..
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QUOTE(ChrisWeiYuan @ May 11 2009, 12:16 AM)
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as well as the hardware..
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QUOTE(christcwl9 @ May 11 2009, 05:07 PM)
Hey, what is a hardware ?? diff between hardware and software??
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hardware,, is something that fixed,, such as your pc hardware...

software is someting like application...

you can know the different right..??

hardware in phone is such as - ram,processor,camera hardware

software - i bet everyone know this
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To put it easier, hardware is the PHYSICAL inner workings of something.
Nokia's N86 won't have a big chance at beating or even come on par with other established cam phone manufacturers.

Their 8MP cam better have some surprises in it. My mum might buy one she says.
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when this phone will released?????
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around the end of the year...it most probably come out with N97 or aroudn that
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LOLZ..
chris u not say want to get n85 meh?
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What would be the N86 price again? long time din visit this thread..
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QUOTE(ChrisWeiYuan @ May 13 2009, 09:45 PM)
LOLZ..
chris u not say want to get n85 meh?
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Lol...i also not so sure actually!! tongue.gif but so far my N82 is so good and loyal to me so i guess i need not to cahnge for this moment!! tongue.gif

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What would be the N86 price again? long time din visit this thread..
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Yeah but this is going to be a good phone i guess...hope the slider is better than the current N85... my slider started getting loose after the 1st month...damn sold it off
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QUOTE(christcwl9 @ May 14 2009, 09:39 PM)
Lol...i also not so sure actually!!  tongue.gif  but so far my N82 is so good and loyal to me so i guess i need not to cahnge for this moment!!  tongue.gif
i guess it will be 2.5k + when it first release biggrin.gif
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Naah i dont think the price will drop that fast.
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I just scared about the camera.. because this nokia using dual led flash not xenon..
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As long as it has a big enough sensor, it can capture enough light that the dual LEDs will be enough.

Won't be as fast though, but at least for a distance of maybe 1.5-2 metres with this new gen LED, the subject will be very adequately lit. For low light scenic pics, why not a true digicam? smile.gif
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yeah... sometimes im thinking why they dont want to use xenon?? dual led cannot capture still images... xenon can...
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QUOTE(shah_boy83 @ May 18 2009, 02:17 AM)
yeah... sometimes im thinking why they dont want to use xenon?? dual led cannot capture still images... xenon can...
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hmmph...
but i still the n86 own n82...
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regardless that n86 camera maybe a bit worst than n82
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QUOTE(ChrisWeiYuan @ May 18 2009, 09:13 AM)
hmmph...
but i still the n86 own n82...
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regardless that n86 camera maybe a bit worst than n82
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just think u in the big party.. have a lots of people there.. then u want to capture gadis2 lawa... tetiber one of ur members terpush u... and the image?? blur n unpretty.. huhu.. or u going to the race car show.. then u want to take the car.. u just got the light and the shadow.. disappointed... right?? hehe.. only my opinion.. but i still love nokia....
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Nokia N86 very nice!! will buy it when it relaeses!!
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8mp lolz..
surely nice larh..
the price lagi nice?
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Wonder when will be N86 officially launched in malaysia...and i think the price is RM 2599...

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8mp lolz..
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the price lagi nice?
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Nokia's N86 8MP now shipping worldwide
Nokia’s best mobile imaging device, the Nokia N86 8MP, which earlier this year won the prestigious TIPA Award for the Best Mobile Imaging Device in 2009, is now shipping globally.

The device features variable aperture, which results in vibrant photos even in challenging bright and low-light conditions. The fast mechanical shutter and Automatic Motion Blur Reduction ensure shorter latencies and less motion blur. Processing times between pictures have been more than halved in comparison with many other camera phones.

Uploading pictures and videos on social networking sites like Ovi Share and Flickr is fast and simple with high-speed connectivity of the Nokia N86 8MP. 8GB of internal memory provides enough space for up to 4000 photos and the memory can be increased even further with an exchangeable 16GB microSD card. To check out the technical specifications, please see the data sheet.
Taken from Nokia Press Bulletin Board
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Nice not sure what to get n97 or this


Added on June 11, 2009, 10:48 amAMOLED screen can last how many years? or is the same as TFT screen?

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I think it's mahal sikit than N85... maybe... and murah sikit than N97... hehehehe...
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n85 rm15++
n97 rm23++
mean n86 around rm18++ ah?? hmm.gif
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n86 Srp Rm1799
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n86 Srp Rm1799
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release ed??
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refer to www.whymobile.com

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Wow the price not bad but dont know n86 or n97 =[
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Wow the price not bad but dont know n86 or n97 =[
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With internal ram of 7x...is it enough or will create more lag?
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N86's review by mobile-review

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the black color look much better than those early grey color version

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Interesting review.
VEry sensible of Nokia to say that MP races are not worth getting into, and I tend to agree. However due to consumer mindset that more MP=better, rather than explaining to people that MP doesn't matter, they'd just have to join in.

But it seems that the pics are a tad bit noisy according to the review. But it's not the final version though, some algorithms would still be under works at Nokia as we speak.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 13 2009, 10:51 PM)
Interesting review.
VEry sensible of Nokia to say that MP races are not worth getting into, and I tend to agree. However due to consumer mindset that more MP=better, rather than explaining to people that MP doesn't matter, they'd just have to join in.

But it seems that the pics are a tad bit noisy according to the review. But it's not the final version though, some algorithms would still be under works at Nokia as we speak.
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i do agree on the quality of the pics. despite having variable aperture which is suppose to make the pics looks better (base on light cond) but it still cannot rival Innov8 much even though Innov8 its an old model already.

perhaps new FW update will make it better
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N86's review by mobile-review

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the black color look much better than those early grey color version
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wahh
its design look better than n96 woh...
n86 is d 1st 8mp smartphone from nokia ryt?
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It's the first 8MP of any phone class by Nokia.
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QUOTE(lajukipas @ Jun 13 2009, 11:27 PM)
wahh
its design look better than n96 woh...
n86 is d 1st 8mp smartphone from nokia ryt?
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if they make the screen as big as n96 will be much better biggrin.gif
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Ya if they make a bit bigger than take n97
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A camera-centric phone should also have a large and beautiful display to show off them pics.

But I agree, any larger and the N97 would fit the bill. It'll make the N86 too far off the price range(and consequently the target market). Plus, it'll also mean that it will be on par with the N96 somewhat.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 14 2009, 10:06 AM)
A camera-centric phone should also have a large and beautiful display to show off them pics.

But I agree, any larger and the N97 would fit the bill. It'll make the N86 too far off the price range(and consequently the target market). Plus, it'll also mean that it will be on par with the N96 somewhat.
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WOw so in detail everything you say is right rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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a review from AAS.. look at the photo samples...my eyebrow raised and ooooo-ed
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/ite...-first_look.php
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It's only a matter of time will Nokia release a monster HD video capturing smartphone.

I'm sure they'll only opt for the 8MP sensor for it(since going higher to shoot a video that is only 1280x720 or 1920x1080 even (OMG) makes no sense). I've been longing to see Nokia coming with an HDMI cable. tongue.gif
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Do there have any news releasing in Malaysia
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Coming out this month @ RRP : RM1880
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What?? That is expensive.....lah...
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Wa loh quite expensive like that better take n97 just my point of view dont be angry
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Where can you find another 8MP camera smartphone with that price?
Variable aperture and mechanical shutter, that makes it closer to an actual camera than any other phone.
3 of the most expensive features, AMOLED screen, the shutter and variable aperture. Tht pretty much kills the price.

It'll drop, don't worry. tongue.gif

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the screen use by n85 OLED or something can only last for 2 to 3 years see how you use, forgot what it called does n86 have the same thing.

I think you will not understand but hope you understand
Or it is different type of screen use d by n86
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Yup and it sell for 1880...then N97 drop from 2480 to 2280 then it drop a bit 1700..maybe...hehehehe
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QUOTE(GaminPro @ Jun 20 2009, 02:18 AM)
the screen use by n85 OLED or something can only last for 2 to 3 years see how you use, forgot what it called does n86 have the same thing.

I think you will not understand but hope you understand
Or it is different type of screen use d by n86
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it uses Active Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode screen (AMOLED)
Switches colours faster(ideal for viewing fast motions with less ghosting), better colour(colours are more pronounced, darker black), greater energy savings over LCD(which needs to be backlit) and also brighter.

It is more expensive though.
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I am thinking getting this phone than n97 because n97 have a lot of problem


Added on June 21, 2009, 2:57 amWhat attract me is the camera
But Lately saw the phone damn solid and free from screen print whatever they call

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haha it also comes in white... scratch-resistant front panel glass looks solid on it.
i guess review readers want more of photo shots comparison of other mp phoes with n86..
i would love to see a night shot sample particularly to see how well can this variable aperture do..

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some nite shot samples... pretty decent.... @@

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthre...=2392136&page=3
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Should i get this phone or N85?? But this phone will over my budget

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i would suggest u to keep that 1k ++ coz 5mp kinda outdate lioa la... better off buying n82 with xenon flash.. gaga... nokia now offering a new transition... 8mp but not just that... it has variable aperture which will help in taking nite shots...
no more xenon flash coz you wouldn't wana have another "n82" (capacitor besar so phone size naturally has to be bigger) ..
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That what people look at the outside but by taking using it, it will pawned all the phone especially n97

Where can compare n86 with n97 different level man. You try LVL 50 Hero vs LVL 1 see who win
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QUOTE(whitedrake88 @ Jun 22 2009, 01:10 AM)
Should i get this phone or N85?? But this phone will over my budget
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juz get the n85 lah...more or less the same...


juz the camera difference...which i dun think there's any difference for any casual photographer....
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QUOTE(chewchew @ Jun 22 2009, 01:14 PM)
juz get the n85 lah...more or less the same...
juz the camera difference...which i dun think there's any difference for any casual photographer....
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if you know the price of N86, i think you will change your mind.. biggrin.gif
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any date for the release?
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N86 is here.
Check out e_trade_pj thread.
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Jun 22 2009, 01:42 PM)
N86 is here.
Check out e_trade_pj thread.
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tomorrow only i'll receive the unit..
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200 diff.. hmm...
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Mobile-review wrote nokia didn't release the white one for now. to those selling n86 in garage sales, do u hv the white variant?

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the price nice leh will get it around 2 or 3 weeks time
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I had a thought, what if they had made improvements to the N93?
An N86 with 3x optical zoom!!

Maybe the next "Best Imaging Device" would we see this. tongue.gif
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I think the next one will be 12 megapixle to challenge XPERIA 2


Added on June 23, 2009, 6:20 pmBuying this phone make me think should i buy it or not soon or next year Nokia will be releasing a 12 megapixle phone also thinking it is worth it or not

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 23 2009, 06:02 PM)
I had a thought, what if they had made improvements to the N93?
An N86 with 3x  optical zoom!!

Maybe the next "Best Imaging Device" would we see this.  tongue.gif
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Optical zoom on hp is nice!!! Like digicam!!!
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I just had a look at the specs. The N93 weighed 180 grams. Not good. laugh.gif
It could easily go to 200g with N86 if it ever had optical zoom. sweat.gif
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wanna share http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/ite...msung_I8510.php ..nokia n86 win? brows.gif rclxms.gif
anyone know when nokia n86 white colour will be out? hmm.gif

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hot from the oven. my gf just got it few hours ago. screen is gorgeous!

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QUOTE(GaminPro @ Jun 23 2009, 06:19 PM)
I think the next one will be 12 megapixle to challenge XPERIA 2


Added on June 23, 2009, 6:20 pmBuying this phone make me think should i buy it or not soon or next year Nokia will be releasing a 12 megapixle phone also thinking it is worth it or not
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i dont understand why nokia put the "8MP" word alongside with the N86 word. there is nothing to be proud off with the 8mp because there are already 8mp camera phone produced since before the n86 produced. 8mp dont have xenon? what a shame. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(confuzan @ Jun 23 2009, 11:41 PM)
hot from the oven. my gf just got it few hours ago. screen is gorgeous!

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Nokia N86 8MP are now available with RRP RM1880;

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QUOTE(double_7 @ Jun 24 2009, 06:55 AM)
i dont understand why nokia put the "8MP" word alongside with the N86 word. there is nothing to be proud off with the 8mp because there are already 8mp camera phone produced since before the n86 produced. 8mp dont have xenon? what a shame. shakehead.gif
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Going for LED is a good thing. At least one manufacturer decides it's worth it for the future. There's probabaly a time in the future where LEDs are going to be just as fast, just as bright as their Xenon counterparts. However they'll always be smaller in size and lower in power consumption. This is good for a phone.

Just like there are people in this world who are still developing better electric cars and yet many are disgusted by their anemic performance. You can't patronize these people for wanting to develop an ultimately better product.

You want Xenon, get a camera.
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she got it for rm1780.

N86 was supposed to be N85 with 8MP, hence the original name was supposed to be "N85 8MP" just like "N95" and "N95 8GB". this was even reflected in the prototype units at MWC.

nokia decided last minute to change the number to N86 8MP, probably the 8MP stays to trumpet the higher pixel count.
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QUOTE(confuzan @ Jun 24 2009, 01:44 PM)
she got it for rm1780.

N86 was supposed to be N85 with 8MP, hence the original name was supposed to be "N85 8MP" just like "N95" and "N95 8GB". this was even reflected in the prototype units at MWC.

nokia decided last minute to change the number to N86 8MP, probably the 8MP stays to trumpet the higher pixel count.
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RM1600 sure can get later. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(confuzan @ Jun 23 2009, 11:41 PM)
hot from the oven. my gf just got it few hours ago. screen is gorgeous!

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wahh nice.. but N85 nicer haha

i have test it at a shop today...
i think i will go for this next year.. bcoz my n85 still 'new' sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Jun 24 2009, 03:15 PM)
wahh nice.. but N85 nicer haha

i have test it at a shop today...
i think i will go for this next year.. bcoz my n85 still 'new' sweat.gif
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By now leh, can experience 8 megapixel rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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8 megapixel is just the resolution size.. but the video is amazing... at darker place.. 3rd generation led light is awesome... it is like my n85 2nd gen. led light..
its pawn n82... n82 is bad video at darker place.. bcoz no light
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Released already? when u guys going to buy this phone??
i really like if this phone have xenon flash..
dont talk about batteries.. i can take my charger everywhere i go..
right???

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lol.. but when taking video at night... xenon flash is crap.. no use..
better using the led flash/light..

imho .. xenon flash is good for taking picture in darker place... but for me led flash is enough..
i'm n82 and k800 former user... and now is n85's user...
i like n85 more..
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 24 2009, 01:51 PM)
RM1600 sure can get later.  tongue.gif
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yeah...need to wait first..
hahah... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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maybe next 3 months
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Jun 24 2009, 03:40 PM)
8 megapixel is just the resolution size.. but the video is amazing... at darker place.. 3rd generation led light is awesome... it is like my n85 2nd gen. led light..
its pawn n82... n82 is bad video at darker place.. bcoz no light
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Beside the resolution, the aperture of the camera is variable, mean you can get better photo quality in low or high lighting enviroment.
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n86 use 8gb internal memory..
is data transfer fast?????
if slow, than 8gb is nothing...

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QUOTE(rush d @ Jun 24 2009, 04:40 PM)
n86 use 8gb internal memory..
is data transfer fast?????
if slow than 8gb is nothing...
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slow than 8gb??? what do you mean..?

or slow then 8gb ??

anyway.. i think its faster than n958GB
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Thumb up for this phone
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QUOTE(rush d @ Jun 24 2009, 04:26 PM)
yeah...need to wait first..
hahah... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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maybe b4 hari raya..i grab this phone..need to save money sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Jun 24 2009, 04:45 PM)
slow than 8gb??? what do you mean..?

or slow then 8gb ??

anyway.. i think its faster than n958GB
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owh i see...
coz n95 transfer rate is very slow...
so n86 its more faster...
huhuhu... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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maybe b4 hari raya..i grab this phone..need to save money sweat.gif
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right...
need to save more... notworthy.gif

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i saw someone selling for 1.8k original set. kinda reasonable price for this phone. wonder if the 8mp is better than c905's
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QUOTE(knuckleballer @ Jun 24 2009, 08:12 PM)
i saw someone selling for 1.8k original set. kinda reasonable price for this phone. wonder if the 8mp is better than c905's
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sure better... this n86 has variable apertures...just like DSLR.. haha brows.gif
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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Feb 17 2009, 08:05 AM)
Feel like N79 + N85 design. Bore....

The number keypad very lousy like 10 years ago design.
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Numberic keys looks real cheap, but hows it really feel for the N86 users?
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Garage is selling at 1770....
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Jun 24 2009, 08:18 PM)
sure better... this n86 has variable apertures...just like DSLR.. haha brows.gif
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that sounds pretty cool although i dont know what it is. haha
one day must try! wait till the price drop first biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(knuckleballer @ Jun 24 2009, 08:51 PM)
that sounds pretty cool although i dont know what it is. haha
one day must try! wait till the price drop first biggrin.gif
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Aperture is the opening, a hole in the camera to let the light in.
Adjustable means the opening can be adjusted in size. Bigger opening more light in. However bigger opening might not be the best in some situations. Too big an aperture might result in overexposure(the subject seems to be too brightly lit).
Most phone cams use F2.8(smaller number = bigger opening Which is quite big.
One way to compensate is with adjusting ISO sensitivity, but will result in a grainy pic if used too much, or too dark but less grainy if not enough.
Variable aperture can combat over-exposure by varying how much light can enter the lens and therefore you get a perfect picture in any light intensity.

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QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Jun 24 2009, 08:48 PM)
Numberic keys looks real cheap, but hows it really feel for the N86 users?
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Cheap numeric keys. This is what n86 lack of. tongue.gif i think the reason why nokia did this is because easy for the user to texting a message. Although it looks cheap , but its actually comfort to be pressed. Unlike the n81 and n85 which is hard to be pressed sometimes. No doubts that people can actually texting a message so fast with n86. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Jun 24 2009, 08:18 PM)
sure better... this n86 has variable apertures...just like DSLR.. haha brows.gif
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GSMArena already publish their full review abt n86. base on the review, even though this n86 have variable aperture and wide angle, the pics quality cannot compete with Innov8. might be due to software/firmware or worst scenario, the sensor itself
nway, n86 look gorgeous in their review. smile.gif

GSMArena (N86 Review)

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Anybody can try to take some 8MPphotos for us to see?
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Anybody can try to take some 8MPphotos for us to see?
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http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/ite...msung_I8510.php some pictures

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RM1800 is ap set or ori set???
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QUOTE(whitedrake88 @ Jun 25 2009, 11:39 AM)
RM1800 is ap set or ori set???
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ori bro...
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So when the ap set is coming? hmm.gif
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There are someone selling at RM1679.00 in lelong.com.my & its avaxx set. Check It out

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That is cheap woh....
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i found RM 1770 - N86 ori in garage sales.....

wil wait for AP price.. maybe RM 1600++
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Nokia has offered very cheap price and I believe due to that the AP set price would not be vary much with the ori set.

Different RM50? RM100? Think of warranty services you get. No offend to the AP set owner/seller. Just my humble opinion.

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The price is fair not that expensive not that cheap

But i want it cheaper biggrin.gif

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i tried the phone at midvalley yesterday..
the sound only so so..
and laggy laggy.. haih..
the promoter just keep said "8mp" "8mp" doh.gif
i think the only advantage for this model only 8mp lo..

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QUOTE(seraph8660 @ Jun 25 2009, 10:56 PM)
i tried the phone at midvalley yesterday..
the sound only so so..
and laggy laggy.. haih..
the promoter just keep said "8mp" "8mp"  doh.gif
i think the only advantage for this model only 8mp lo..
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just installed garmin xt on my gf's phone. i would say that this phone is quite fast. of course the initial firmware has bugs everywhere. hopefully they iron it out in later release.

build quality was good. very impressed with the materials used.

one thing though, this phone is heavy!
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QUOTE(confuzan @ Jun 26 2009, 01:31 AM)
just installed garmin xt on my gf's phone. i would say that this phone is quite fast. of course the initial firmware has bugs everywhere. hopefully they iron it out in later release.

build quality was good. very impressed with the materials used.

one thing though, this phone is heavy!
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QUOTE(joshuawong @ Jun 25 2009, 09:49 PM)
Nokia has offered very cheap price and I believe due to that the AP set price would not be vary much with the ori set.

Different RM50? RM100? Think of warranty services you get. No offend to the AP set owner/seller. Just my humble opinion.
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Could't agree more! If the diff is merely rm100 then buy ori set with extensive warranty.


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The price is fair not that expensive not that cheap

But i want it cheaper biggrin.gif
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Then wait. The price is going to be cheaper if u are willing to wait. 2 years may be.

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renee offer me rm1660 for ap ...if around also around that..i think should going for ori..thanks to nokia for their kindness to compete with ap price..
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wow another good and cheap phone....recently nokia cut their margin?
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its direct competition for se's w995

so rm1.6-1.8k is ok price guess
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anyone already own this phone ?
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jun 26 2009, 11:42 PM)
its direct competition for se's w995

so rm1.6-1.8k is ok price guess
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oh meaning w995 is also an 8MP phone?
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jun 27 2009, 12:33 AM)
oh meaning w995 is also an 8MP phone?
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w995 also 8mp phone. but not really camera centric. and it is featured phone only
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N86 until the end but if 12 megapixel come out then finish biggrin.gif

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