gosh nokia, i am soooo disappointed.. n86 is a big disappointment.. i was expecting so much more for the n8x series and this one came up.. led flash only? come on.. pls make xenon standard ok.. and the design is ugly.. it looks so disgusting with its matte look and quirky buttons.. this is by far the ugliest phone and most disappointing phone ever existed. i was wishing something that would top the already-perfect n82 but instead this came up..

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Added on February 19, 2009, 3:12 amthe back of the phone is just retarded and looks outdated.. worst back cover ever..

and what is the use of 8 mp without xenon?

sorry guya i'm just really frustrated over this n86 right now.. i tot they'll put a xenon and somethign similar or more beautiful design than the n85.. i'm just really really disappointed.. this is nothing but just a boost of megapixels and downgrade of design..i was expecting sooo much more.. to have nokia slap this bloody- ugly- non-xenon camera phone thrown at us.. what an insult to smartphones

Nokia first 8mp with no Xenon flash 

yes, i know what you are trying to say, most end users out there never even heard symbian before, or hardly know what it is, even though they are using a s60v3 device..so you can imagine people that knows what is a xenon flash..but for us here that knows all about this things, we cannot help but to ask for perfection..it's human nature, we never get satisfied.

throw all those aside, this is what i think of nokia for their recent moves:
nokia is being ignorance in the phone market lately..
for example, look at the design from N81, N78, N85, N79, N97 and going on..
they are basically the same mirror, glossy surface..just different colour..

also, for some people who look around other brand 8MP phones..they have face detection, smile shots and stuff, and samsung's new phone even provide video recording on 720p, but there is no info on this device capable of doing all the above..
and the thing that let me down the most, since nokia is putting all those theme effect, and larger res for their touch device, they should start using back the OMAP chipset they gave up, it provides much higher performance..some will say price matters, but the thing is, when you are already spending RM2.5k on a phone, i don think it matters if it's another RM200 if you really like the phone, and due to the OMAP, you phone specs can cope with more softwares in the future due to it's processing power, and as for now, people are already playing quake 3 on N82...

for people that thinks this is overkillings, i have experience on this..
i was using N81 8GB before i got N82, and i remember clearly that when i am playing ONE(ngage game) at my n81, i have to turn off the lighting just to ensure better gameplay framerate..this is a proof that nokia's phone spec itself are slowly incapable of coping with their own gaming platform..irony...

this phone isn;t shiny enough.. it has a really grainy look. don't you guys think? the back looks matte. the rounded keys are the most hideous part of the phone, seem very outdated.. the slashing soft keys is a bit too over the top and distracting enough to make you take notice of it.. the back cover looks really cheap with really nothing to be proud off.. conclusion i wouldn't want to be seen carrying this ugly junk with me. i oso agree that nokia needs a new phone designer.. nokia has been quite infamous with the design of their phone..

N97 is plastic ? 

But the Euro price will still varu right cant be the exact price conversion frm euro of this phone price to MYR.... each market different value right?

Garmin 5.00.30 has bug also.

I found out a bug. When you set a destination to go, you can see 3 buttons at bottom.

One is speed metre or distance.

Next one is return to menu.

The other is the time left for destination. (BUT IF YOU PRESS THIS KEY THEN GARMIN IS HANG!!!!!!!!!! HAVE TO TURN OFF GARMIN AND START AGAIN)
I think 5.00.40 will be came out bcoz of this.

I tried at 2 5800s.

Too late cause i think everyone has their 8mp camera phone already 

But i thought Xenon flash drained a lot of energy?