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Shadow Kun
post Apr 2 2012, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 2 2012, 10:47 PM)
staying alive promotes the growth of cancer.
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okay let me rephrase my question. does drinking milk accelerates the growth of cancer? is milk bad for cancer patients?
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:05 PM


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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Apr 2 2012, 10:54 PM)
okay let me rephrase my question. does drinking milk accelerates the growth of cancer? is milk bad for cancer patients?
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patient will feel like crap with treatment like chemo/radiation.....no appetite and so on.
well.......if keeping patient alive is your concern, then giving the patient anything the patient wants to eat would be good, and hopefully the conventional treatment will kill the cancer 1st. .......

"does drinking milk accelerates the growth of cancer?"
i don't know. there's no conclusive data available.
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 2 2012, 11:05 PM)
patient will feel like crap with treatment like chemo/radiation.....no appetite and so on.
well.......if keeping patient alive is your concern, then giving the patient anything the patient wants to eat would be good, and hopefully the conventional treatment will kill the cancer 1st. .......

"does drinking milk accelerates the growth of cancer?"
i don't know. there's no conclusive data available.
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well said patient in my case doesnt get any chemo and stuff. just that she's avoiding milk because someone told her that milk is bad for cancer patients.

so to get things straight, milk is no different than any other kind of food is it? whether you drink or not it makes no difference right?
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post Apr 8 2012, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Apr 2 2012, 10:54 PM)
okay let me rephrase my question. does drinking milk accelerates the growth of cancer? is milk bad for cancer patients?
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Cancer cells feed of glucose (blood sugar). Anything that raises your blood sugar too high will feed cancer cells. This is quite a well known fact but most Doctors will still advise patients to go low fat, high carb as this is the nutritional wisdom that has caused so many problems in the first place.

Go ultra low carb, high protein, high animal fat, organic.
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post Apr 8 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(micksolo @ Apr 8 2012, 02:52 PM)
Cancer cells feed of glucose (blood sugar).  Anything that raises your blood sugar too high will feed cancer cells.  This is quite a well known fact but most Doctors will still advise patients to go low fat, high carb as this is the nutritional wisdom that has caused so many problems in the first place.

Go ultra low carb, high protein, high animal fat, organic.
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sooo.. low fat milk is ok then?
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post Apr 8 2012, 03:33 PM


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QUOTE(micksolo @ Apr 8 2012, 02:52 PM)
Cancer cells feed of glucose (blood sugar).  Anything that raises your blood sugar too high will feed cancer cells.  This is quite a well known fact but most Doctors will still advise patients to go low fat, high carb as this is the nutritional wisdom that has caused so many problems in the first place.

Go ultra low carb, high protein, high animal fat, organic.
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high animal fat?
kudos........to the so called "wisdom"

http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Survivorsh...ommon-questions
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post Apr 9 2012, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Apr 8 2012, 03:33 PM)
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high animal fat?
kudos........to the so called "wisdom"

http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/Survivorsh...ommon-questions
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I call bullshi* on the saturated fats part. The Inuits and French eat a ton of saturated fat yet they are much healthier than the Americans who eat a lot of processed carbs.

What micksolo said is true. Low carbs, high fats and a high protein diet will works wonders. if you wanna lose weight, just eat below maintainence in terms or calories.
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post Apr 16 2012, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 9 2012, 11:47 PM)
I call bullshi* on the saturated fats part. The Inuits and French eat a ton of saturated fat yet they are much healthier than the Americans who eat a lot of processed carbs.

What micksolo said is true. Low carbs, high fats and a high protein diet will works wonders.  if you wanna lose weight, just eat below maintainence in terms or calories.
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imho, i believe meal timing is very important as well. try splitting it into 5-6 meals a day. instead of starchy carbs, go for complex. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(sayoonarra @ Apr 16 2012, 06:56 AM)
imho, i believe meal timing is very important as well. try splitting it into 5-6 meals a day. instead of starchy carbs, go for complex.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Wait what ? Starchy carbs are not complex ? laugh.gif
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:18 PM

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ops. mistake, what im trying to say is go for slow digestion complex carbs (oats, sweet potato etc) instead of fast digestion carbs like rice.
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post Apr 20 2012, 05:47 PM

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Some people get cured from cancer without chemo.
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post Apr 23 2012, 08:56 AM

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This is a great site for finding out more about eating fats (oils).

http://oilthemachine.com/

However, note that this man went for plant source rather than meat source.

I can't quite stand the oil so I'm usually looking for capsules. But those are pretty hard to find in Malaysia.
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post May 4 2012, 07:17 AM

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It has been established that weight loss as a result of calorie deficit, leads to loss of lean body mass if not coupled with resistance training and adequate protein intake. However, the studies I have came across seem to use a very high calorie deficit, e.g. calorie intake of 1000 calories.

This gives rise to several questions, for example:

(i) How much lean body mass is lost?
(ii) Can it be captured in a more quantifiable manner? e.g. the gain/loss of 1lbs body fat per 3500 calories
(iii) How significant this loss is in terms of a larger picture of health and wellness, as opposed to the scientific significance?
(iv) Do lower levels of calorie deficit induce the same amount of lean body mass loss?

Therefore are there any articles that explore these in greater detail?

This post has been edited by entryman: May 4 2012, 08:35 AM
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post May 4 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ May 4 2012, 07:17 AM)
It has been established that weight loss as a result of calorie deficit, leads to loss of lean body mass if not coupled with resistance training and adequate protein intake. However, the studies I have came across seem to use a very high calorie deficit, e.g. calorie intake of 1000 calories.

This gives rise to several questions, for example:

(i) How much lean body mass is lost?
(ii) Can it be captured in a more quantifiable manner? e.g. the gain/loss of 1lbs body fat per 3500 calories
(iii) How significant this loss is in terms of a larger picture of health and wellness, as opposed to the scientific significance?
(iv) Do lower levels of calorie deficit induce the same amount of lean body mass loss?

Therefore are there any articles that explore these in greater detail?
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deficit of 1000 calories? that's really alot..

so far most of us have no accurate mean of measuring our lean body mass..

Interested to know in case of, would burning 4k calories per day with input of 3k calories same as burning 2k calories and intake of 1k calories the same. Since they have the same amount of deficit differences..
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QUOTE(kurlei18 @ May 4 2012, 03:21 PM)
people who are thin who eats more but still remains thin are having fast metabolism.. most people knew about that, i think.. smile.gif
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There is a high probability of such a correlation. However, the cause for being underweight, is usually not due to high metabolic rate, but rather, can be attributed to a purely simple behavioural problem of under-eating, as opposed to over-eating behaviour seen among overweight people.

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post May 11 2012, 08:16 PM

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i have a family member who eats 3 meals per day...oats and wholemeal bread+milk & lunch of rice+meat+vege. no beef, no red meat, no skin fat. drink milks everyday and eat lots of vege.

...and exercise at least 3 times a week, 1 hour each time..doing aerobic and some light strength training.

his health result: high glucose, high cholesterol, high lymphocyte, low calcium.

any idea why?

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 11 2012, 08:16 PM)
i have a family member who eats 3 meals per day...oats and wholemeal bread+milk & lunch of rice+meat+vege. no beef, no red meat, no skin fat. drink milks everyday and eat lots of vege.

...and exercise at least 3 times a week, 1 hour each time..doing aerobic and some light strength training.

his health result: high glucose, high cholesterol, high lymphocyte, low calcium.

any idea why?
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You should ask your question at the other thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2019347
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post May 24 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Apr 2 2012, 11:27 PM)
well said patient in my case doesnt get any chemo and stuff. just that she's avoiding milk because someone told her that milk is bad for cancer patients.

so to get things straight, milk is no different than any other kind of food is it? whether you drink or not it makes no difference right?
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take fruits vege n fish n some food supplement , do dome morning exercise , find " you dun chao" a plant take 7 to 15 leaves blend with green apples twice daily.
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