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post Feb 25 2009, 03:37 PM

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Anyone interested in OSK? The price is quite attractive. I hope it can last until next week (waiting for my reload).
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 25 2009, 03:16 PM)
Don't you think the gov is trying to make everyone go for investment? One of the ways to make the money flows.
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This is what we call interest effect.

To chase out the money sitting idle in the FD, (spend, invest or whatever as long as the money is being used for) while making loan cheaper to get, both way spur economy activities.

But it has some effect up to certain extent, once too low, it become no effect at ll. Just like if FD rate is 1.5% vs 1%, then effect is almost none already. As it is insignficant.
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 25 2009, 03:37 PM)
Anyone interested in OSK? The price is quite attractive. I hope it can last until next week (waiting for my reload).
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During "Bull" time, OSK div was good..... but dont think it's that attractive anymore now unsure.gif
Their business is pretty straight forward like BURSA i guess..... the KLCI can be a good indicator? tongue.gif

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post Feb 25 2009, 03:43 PM

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KNM Q4 report:

Current liabilities 1,856,789 <- 556,341

How's KNM going to pay back such a huge debt hmm.gif


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post Feb 25 2009, 03:46 PM

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I heard there's no price adjustment after capital repayment. Not sure if its true.
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do anyone think if all the money of malaysian household invest in the market will be able to boost the market, better think again, the percentage is very minimum only. in order to boost the market need to have big foreign capital and not local funds. For asian style of investment is day trading style (Hit and Run). people who dont always see the market might have a long term investment return but not for those who is too close to the market and hand always ichy watching the market (9-5 daily).

Some maybe remisier but as seen some looks like working in the wrong company instead of share market (browsing the stock market more than the remisier even the big player/md also dont see the market oftenly). using company time to do personal investment. smile.gif

very minimum percentage for malaysian to hold long term, out of 10 maybe 2 only.

even bank negara also cannot tahan have to lower down interest / blr again and again. there is alot of hidden/transparency things which outsider/investor dont know yet. the thru effect is not out yet.

there is good and bad effect of lowering down the interest rate.

alot of unnecesary $$ wasted in election campaign etc

Recently have anyone heard news that genting or resorts can't serve the bank loans/borrowings for the newly casino in sentosa

alot of hidden news have yet to disclose yet. better becareful

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post Feb 25 2009, 04:01 PM

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Looking at the bright side:
Cash 513,196 <-- 105,330 tongue.gif

However, NAV 0.46 <- 0.53... sad.gif

QUOTE(Junior83 @ Feb 25 2009, 03:43 PM)
KNM Q4 report:

Current liabilities  1,856,789 <-  556,341

How's KNM going to pay back such a huge debt  hmm.gif
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post Feb 25 2009, 04:04 PM

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hmm...no cash still give high div ar....geng wor....
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 25 2009, 03:46 PM)
I heard there's no price adjustment after capital repayment. Not sure if its true.
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Not true. Price will be adjusted according.

QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Feb 25 2009, 03:53 PM)
do anyone think if all the money of  malaysian household  invest in the market will be able to boost the market, better think again, the percentage is very minimum only. in order to boost the market need to have big foreign capital and not local funds. For asian style of investment is day trading style (Hit and Run). people who dont always see the market might have a long term investment return but not for those who is too close to the market and hand always ichy and watching the market.

very minimum percentage for malaysian to hold long term, out of 10 maybe 2 only.

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Yes, simple rely on local fund is not enough to boost the market.
Stock market cannot be boost artificially without economy growth. The main criteria for stock market to go up is economy growth and improved company earning, without it, no matter how much you pour money into the stock market, it won't go up, the best (with lot of money) is creating some unsustainable bubble, just like second board super bull, Mesdaq run back years ago.

That's why only minimum % are actually gain from stock market. I once came across some articles and statistic that only about 3/10 investors in stock market (KLSE) are actuallly gaining in the market. Others mostly feeding investment houses and brokers's pocket and losing.

Soley rely on punter and speculate style with hit and run won't carry one too far. Might gain little here and there 5 cents here, 10 cents there, 20 cents there. But other person invest in good fundamental stocks with long term, just need one hit that already gain 2.00 3.00 or 4.00.
Also, with hit and run style, the more you make transaction, the more mistake potential to be made. So you might as well lose 50 cents just intend to make 20 cents with hit and run. The other person that make long term investment, he only need to make sure one decision being correct, then the fruit is much much bigger.

Not to say hit and run not good or whatsoever, some might be good in it and some might prefer it, nothing right or wrong.
Just my 2 cents, and sharing some experience of it. smile.gif

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 25 2009, 04:01 PM)
Looking at the bright side:
Cash 513,196 <-- 105,330  tongue.gif

However, NAV 0.46 <- 0.53... sad.gif
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I personally adjust the NAV to 0.35 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chyaw @ Feb 25 2009, 04:01 PM)
Looking at the bright side:
Cash 513,196 <-- 105,330  tongue.gif

However, NAV 0.46 <- 0.53... sad.gif
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The cash not enough to pay the short term liabilities leh, and cash raised mainly from increasing liabilities, and guess 100+m already sink back to the loan when they take out new debt from Maybank, also new debt raised from Maybank is 3 year term loan, 1/3 due in the year and the rest phase in coming 2 years. Also they break the goodwill into goodwill + intangible asset (and amount grow 200+), and... I kind of doomsayer... please don't kill me... tongue.gif
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just wondering thru out the historical market downfall, which downfall the fastest time for the economy to recover? 1 yr/3yr/5yr 10yr time

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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Feb 25 2009, 04:24 PM)
just wondering thru out the historical market downfall, which  downfall the fastest time for the economy to recover? 1 yr/3yr/5yr 10yr time
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3 years is the average figure.
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anyone watching BSTEAD?

involved in oil palm plantation + properties.

they gives good DY over the past year.

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post Feb 25 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2009, 04:16 PM)
Not true. Price will be adjusted according.
Yes, simple rely on local fund is not enough to boost the market.
Stock market cannot be boost artificially without economy growth. The main criteria for stock market to go up is economy growth and improved company earning, without it, no matter how much you pour money into the stock market, it won't go up, the best (with lot of money) is creating some unsustainable bubble, just like second board super bull, Mesdaq run back years ago.

That's why only minimum % are actually gain from stock market. I once came across some articles and statistic that only about 3/10 investors in stock market (KLSE) are actuallly gaining in the market. Others mostly feeding investment houses and brokers's pocket and losing.

Soley rely on punter and speculate style with hit and run won't carry one too far. Might gain little here and there 5 cents here, 10 cents there, 20 cents there. But other person invest in good fundamental stocks with long term, just need one hit that already gain 2.00 3.00 or 4.00.
Also, with hit and run style, the more you make transaction, the more mistake potential to be made. So you might as well lose 50 cents just intend to make 20 cents with hit and run. The other person that make long term investment, he only need to make sure one decision being correct, then the fruit is much much bigger.

Not to say hit and run not good or whatsoever, some might be good in it and some might prefer it, nothing right or wrong.
Just my 2 cents, and sharing some experience of it.  smile.gif
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then any good fundamental shares u can recommend that can buy for long term? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Feb 25 2009, 03:53 PM)
do anyone think if all the money of  malaysian household  invest in the market will be able to boost the market, better think again, the percentage is very minimum only. in order to boost the market need to have big foreign capital and not local funds. For asian style of investment is day trading style (Hit and Run). people who dont always see the market might have a long term investment return but not for those who is too close to the market and hand always ichy  watching the market (9-5 daily).

Some maybe remisier but as seen some looks like working in the wrong company instead of share market (browsing the stock market more than the remisier even the big player/md also dont see the market oftenly). using company time to do personal investment. smile.gif

very minimum percentage for malaysian to hold long term, out of 10 maybe 2 only.

even bank negara also cannot tahan have to lower down interest / blr again and again. there is alot of hidden/transparency things which outsider/investor dont know yet. the thru effect is not out yet.

there is good and bad effect of lowering down the interest rate.

alot of unnecesary $$ wasted in election campaign etc

Recently have anyone heard news that genting or resorts can't serve the bank loans/borrowings for the newly casino in sentosa

alot of hidden news have yet to disclose yet. better becareful
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hi there I'd seen some of your post here a bit like against stock investment or perhaps I should said your are given some negative impression on the ways malaysians stock investor are investing in BUrsa here cheer up !!! comon' people can hold long or short term if everyone hold long term then the market wouldn't be fluctuated no business la trade is like that one either someone earn or loss.

just my 2 cents no offense

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just found out BLR is most likely be 5.55
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post Feb 25 2009, 05:00 PM

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wah! Today is green ar! I didn't notice it until now... Maybe because most of my counters are red... sad.gif
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omg IOI can be nominated as the Best Day Trade counter la!

3.58 yesterday, 3.72 today!
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GENTING back to 3.6 is not so bad after all tongue.gif

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