Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
126 Pages « < 36 37 38 39 40 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Stock market V21, Huge Stimulus Age

views
     
cherroy
post Feb 25 2009, 09:08 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:04 PM)
cherroy,

when you say "EPS is ugly", how could we determine that?

which one should i look at? is it the one circled in red?
*
You look at current quarter one, not the past (accumulated) that had been known.

To look at business operation wise situation, look at its revenue and cost figure, and profit before tax.

Revenue is sinking while cost is rising for the current quarter which is not a good sign. (low BDI, so low revenue).

I got analogy for this kind of situation. Papa back home late, can't play with the kids (poor result), but Papa buy a lollipop for you (30 cents dividend), so don't cry huh. Haha. laugh.gif


SUSgogo2
post Feb 25 2009, 09:10 PM

gogo2
********
All Stars
18,672 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
their Q4 profit is really  shakehead.gif
but i'm more surprise with the uglier RESORTS result
perhaps we'll get another round of surprise frm GENTING 2molo?  doh.gif
*
isn't genting disconnect from resort? i tot resort is Singapore while genting is Malaysia?
fergie1100
post Feb 25 2009, 09:12 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,345 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2009, 09:08 PM)
You look at current quarter one, not the past (accumulated) that had been known.

To look at business operation wise situation, look at its revenue and cost figure, and profit before tax.

Revenue is sinking while cost is rising for the current quarter which is not a good sign. (low BDI, so low revenue).

I got analogy for this kind of situation. Papa back home late, can't play with the kids (poor result), but Papa buy a lollipop for you (30 cents dividend), so don't cry huh. Haha.  laugh.gif
*
haha..... good point!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
btw, wat's the diff between "profit/loss b4 tax" & "profit loss for the period"? unsure.gif
! Love Money
post Feb 25 2009, 09:13 PM

permanently unavailable
*******
Validating
2,073 posts

Joined: Sep 2007
From: last visited


can i know when is the next dividend payout for maybank?
panasonic88
post Feb 25 2009, 09:14 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
37,028 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Petaling Jaya
QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2009, 09:08 PM)
You look at current quarter one, not the past (accumulated) that had been known.

To look at business operation wise situation, look at its revenue and cost figure, and profit before tax.

Revenue is sinking while cost is rising for the current quarter which is not a good sign. (low BDI, so low revenue).

I got analogy for this kind of situation. Papa back home late, can't play with the kids (poor result), but Papa buy a lollipop for you (30 cents dividend), so don't cry huh. Haha.  laugh.gif
*
kakaka what a cute analogy!

i have 1 last question,

"...cost is rising for the current quarter which is not a good sign.", where to see the "cost"? unsure.gif
panasonic88
post Feb 25 2009, 09:17 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
37,028 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Petaling Jaya
QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2009, 08:59 PM)
Maybulk

EPS is pretty ugly.

Cash level is healthy with 790 million which is substantial enough to weather through the bad time.

Future generous dividend is not sustainable as it just draining out cash if EPS continue to be as bad and operational profit remain at distress level.
After all, the significant cash generated is from vessel disposal, not from operation activities.

So the dividend is given from the past year accumulated profit plus vessel disposal.

Conclusion, if not the 30 cents dividend, with this kind of result, share price would plunge, so company management decided to give generious dividend as sweeties. My opinoin only.
*
paiseh, 1 more question.

"Cash level is healthy with 790 million which is substantial enough to weather through the bad time. " ...

where to get the figure 790 million from the report? unsure.gif

fergie1100
post Feb 25 2009, 09:18 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,345 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:10 PM)
isn't genting disconnect from resort? i tot resort is Singapore while genting is Malaysia?
*
GENTING hold more than 50% stakes in both RESORTS & ASIATIC as far as i know..... correct me if i'm wrong....
GENTING is more like an "investment" company i think.... while RESORTS is taking care of the gaming, leisure and hospitality business....


Added on February 25, 2009, 9:20 pm
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:14 PM)
kakaka what a cute analogy!

i have 1 last question,

"...cost is rising for the current quarter which is not a good sign.", where to see the "cost"?  unsure.gif
*
all the expenses i guess (operating + admin) & also the finance cost? unsure.gif

This post has been edited by fergie1100: Feb 25 2009, 09:20 PM
cherroy
post Feb 25 2009, 09:22 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:18 PM)
GENTING hold more than 50% stakes in both RESORTS & ASIATIC as far as i know..... correct me if i'm wrong....
GENTING is more like an "investment" company i think.... while RESORTS is taking care of the gaming, leisure and hospitality business....


Added on February 25, 2009, 9:20 pm
all the expenses i guess (operating + admin) & also the finance cost?  unsure.gif
*
Genting is more a group company.

Genting = Resort (casino) + Genting International + Asiatic + Power generation business.
cherroy
post Feb 25 2009, 09:29 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:17 PM)
paiseh, 1 more question.

"Cash level is healthy with 790 million which is substantial enough to weather through the bad time. " ...

where to get the figure 790 million from the report?  unsure.gif
*
You can see from the pdf file in KLSE website.

Cost is under operating expenses.

Cash can be seen from cashflow statement.



Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image Attached Image
panasonic88
post Feb 25 2009, 09:33 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
37,028 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Petaling Jaya
QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2009, 09:29 PM)
You can see from the pdf file in KLSE website.

Cost is under operating expenses.

Cash can be seen from cashflow statement.
*
oh crap, i havent check out the report book !!!

thanks taikor wub.gif *digesting*
cherroy
post Feb 25 2009, 09:37 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


We should proceed discussion in Maybulk thread then, for purely Maybulk discussion.
panasonic88
post Feb 25 2009, 09:45 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
VIP
37,028 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Petaling Jaya
QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 25 2009, 09:37 PM)
We should proceed discussion in Maybulk thread then, for purely Maybulk discussion.
*
lol you extract the posts and put under maybulk discussion thread lor tongue.gif

i see a huge money there on "Gain on Disposal of Vessel".

now i know where the sweets (30 sens) come from wink.gif
cherroy
post Feb 25 2009, 09:48 PM

20k VIP Club
Group Icon
Staff
25,802 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:45 PM)
lol you extract the posts and put under maybulk discussion thread lor tongue.gif

i see a huge money there on "Gain on Disposal of Vessel".

now i know where the sweets (30 sens) come from  wink.gif
*
I don't know what's wrong with the forum function on our posts. Can't move the post to there at the moment, getting error. Please bare with me, just we can move the discussion to there which is much proper.
kmarc
post Feb 25 2009, 10:42 PM

The future is here - Cryptocurrencies!
Group Icon
Elite
14,576 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Sarawak



Hey guys.... my machine gun bullets just came today. rclxms.gif

However, with uncertainty in the market, I just can't decide what long-term blue chip stocks to go for......

I know nobody knows for certain what will happen in the future but if there is one or two stocks you guys would pick for long-term investment (in terms of potential capital appreciation or dividend yield), which one would you go for? hmm.gif

And yeah, I know, judge my own..... smile.gif
SUSgogo2
post Feb 25 2009, 11:25 PM

gogo2
********
All Stars
18,672 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 25 2009, 10:42 PM)
Hey guys.... my machine gun bullets just came today.  rclxms.gif

However, with uncertainty in the market, I just can't decide what long-term blue chip stocks to go for......

I know nobody knows for certain what will happen in the future but if there is one or two stocks you guys would pick for long-term investment (in terms of potential capital appreciation or dividend yield), which one would you go for?  hmm.gif

And yeah, I know, judge my own.....  smile.gif
*
yeah..hahaha... else, you'll blame us. Anyway, i'll probably go for BJtoto if it goes down to rm3.
SUSDavid83
post Feb 25 2009, 11:30 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
52,874 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
DJIA was so green yesterday but it bleeds back tonight.

7,214.10 -136.84 -1.86%
Junior83
post Feb 25 2009, 11:31 PM

Investor
******
Senior Member
1,256 posts

Joined: Nov 2004
QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Feb 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
their Q4 profit is really  shakehead.gif
but i'm more surprise with the uglier RESORTS result
perhaps we'll get another round of surprise frm GENTING 2molo?  doh.gif
*
IMHO, actually no surprise, their quater profit b4 tax excluding the impairment loss would have increased by 16%, their financial outlook still looking good.

This post has been edited by Junior83: Feb 25 2009, 11:34 PM
kmarc
post Feb 25 2009, 11:40 PM

The future is here - Cryptocurrencies!
Group Icon
Elite
14,576 posts

Joined: May 2006
From: Sarawak



QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:25 PM)
yeah..hahaha... else, you'll blame us. Anyway, i'll probably go for BJtoto if it goes down to rm3.
*
I'd probably buy BJTOTO if it falls to RM4.... or IOICORP if it falls to RM3..... smile.gif

Just that at current price (@ stock market level)... dunno wat to buy..... sweat.gif
SUSgogo2
post Feb 25 2009, 11:50 PM

gogo2
********
All Stars
18,672 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Penang


QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:30 PM)
DJIA was so green yesterday but it bleeds back tonight.

7,214.10 -136.84 -1.86%
*
i'm feeling scared now.... icon_question.gif actually i feel hopeless. Feel retrenchment is on its way...
dunno if I should buy house or wait...
SUSDavid83
post Feb 25 2009, 11:55 PM

20k VIP Club
*********
All Stars
52,874 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 25 2009, 11:50 PM)
i'm feeling scared now....  icon_question.gif actually i feel hopeless. Feel retrenchment is on its way...
dunno if I should buy house or wait...
*
If I were, I prefer to keep as much as cash (liquidity) as possible. Prepare for the worst storm.

126 Pages « < 36 37 38 39 40 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.2268sec    0.39    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 16th December 2025 - 06:09 PM