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 Japanese Cultural Night 09 on 5th march, Bunkasai 2009 @ Cheras, there's cosplay!

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post Mar 6 2009, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(kct-86 @ Mar 6 2009, 01:40 AM)
That will NEVER happen.
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Agreed.... Next time they do... I'll be sitting at my home watching anime and draw better...
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:06 AM

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although i did not attend....

but as a student over there, i would hope that ppl here....

try to understand that this event is held for the 1st time....and all ppl facing different problem to get this things done.....FOR THE 1ST TIME...

if no one support, its hardly to get Improvement for next..



thanks
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:17 AM

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huhu.. doesnt seem that intresting.......... where's the cosplayer pic???
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:24 AM

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as a part of committees,
i can said tis event is well done.

ok..as other ppl said
tis event was 1st event organized by AniMaC
see probably
1st event..
there is no mini event organize b4
but tis Bunkasai event is the 1st time

so
1st question
1st event..do u think we can get enuff sponsor for cover our budget?
2nd question
a perfect event is according to the budget

show me how perfect as u can if u r organize the 1st event in ur club
try make it as big as Bunkasai
come on..dun organize any mini event
u can make it?

ok
we seriously dun mind to give us the bad feedback
but plz
can u respect the committees to put so much effort on tis event?
tis event .. some of the committees was injured
u tot u can see the bamboo in every event?
plz dun anyhow criticize our name of event

most of our committees were 1st time experience in organizing event
so wat?
we are learning from the mistake that we made

anyway
thanks for some of them who spent their time to come for our event
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(evanttc @ Mar 6 2009, 02:06 AM)
although i did not attend....

but as a student over there, i would hope that ppl here....

try to understand that this event is held for the 1st time....and all ppl facing different problem to get this things done.....FOR THE 1ST TIME...

if no one support, its hardly to get Improvement for next..
thanks
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First time is not an excuse when the comms go out and promote it like it's the most awesome thing to happen. I came a bit too early [2.30 ish] and the event isnt even in full swing. I was honestly expecting at least takoyaki, even then I'd forgive the lack of it. You promo and hype it up for weeks, wooing outside people to come on a WEEKDAY. You know I actually got lost trying to find you?

I went to UCSI near the Giant there. I went in, didn't see a single promo banner/bunting until I went wayyyyy further into the building, and it says 'North Wing'. I ask one of the guys where the north wing is, and I was told to take a bus. The least you couldve done to prevent this is to have a banner up front where it's OBVIOUS for first time visitors.

First time is not an excuse when you are doing something and expect outsiders to enjoy it. If you're doing something for the first time, do it for your own students first. Learn the ropes, learn the right things to do, the wrong things to avoid, and what mishaps may happen. Then only you can go out and promote off campus.

First time is not an excuse when you say the event starts at 1pm, and even by 3pm your event isn't in full swing yet. I went there expecting to spend some time and cash on lunch. Do you know how disappointed I was to see canned drinks and pre-packed Ramly burgers, on a JAPANESE THEMED EVENT?

Also, your exhibits have teribel engrish. You call yourselves an INTERNATIONAL university, the least you could do is some spell checking/grammar edits on your copywriting. And for heavens' sake, it's not pronounced Boon Kar Sai.

I understand you're trying to bring yourselves up in the scene, but even when you realize that you don't have much of a foundation on how to do things, you should know better than trying to impress outsiders with empty promises. I'm afraid your reputation is going to be scarred for a long time to come.

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post Mar 6 2009, 02:54 AM

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have you guy even do research beforehand ?

jaya jusco make croquet and they are like 1 ringgit per piece
you can order from them by bulk
if you put them as sponsor , I dont see why not they dont give you good discount .

and there is a type of noodle they fry it on the spot , just use cheap noodle or something and fry it on the spot lah , it make you feel more japanese .nobody gonna complain the taste cause nobody really eat it before ...
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 6 2009, 03:33 AM)
First time is not an excuse when the comms go out and promote it like it's the most awesome thing to happen. I came a bit too early [2.30 ish] and the event isnt even in full swing. I was honestly expecting at least takoyaki, even then I'd forgive the lack of it. You promo and hype it up for weeks, wooing outside people to come on a WEEKDAY. You know I actually got lost trying to find you?

I went to UCSI near the Giant there. I went in, didn't see a single promo banner/bunting until I went wayyyyy further into the building, and it says 'North Wing'. I ask one of the guys where the north wing is, and I was told to take a bus. The least you couldve done to prevent this is to have a banner up front where it's OBVIOUS for first time visitors.

First time is not an excuse when you are doing something and expect outsiders to enjoy it. If you're doing something for the first time, do it for your own students first. Learn the ropes, learn the right things to do, the wrong things to avoid, and what mishaps may happen. Then only you can go out and promote off campus.

First time is not an excuse when you say the event starts at 1pm, and even by 3pm your event isn't in full swing yet. I went there expecting to spend some time and cash on lunch. Do you know how disappointed I was to see canned drinks and pre-packed Ramly burgers, on a JAPANESE THEMED EVENT?

Also, your exhibits have teribel engrish. You call yourselves an INTERNATIONAL university, the least you could do is some spell checking/grammar edits on your copywriting. And for heavens' sake, it's not pronounced Boon Kar Sai.

I understand you're trying to bring yourselves up in the scene, but even when you realize that you don't have much of a foundation on how to do things, you should know better than trying to impress outsiders with empty promises. I'm afraid your reputation is going to be scarred for a long time to come.
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first time is not an excuse..i acceptable
but as u know..recently was a raining day
we trying to put a backup plan
when the rain started, we are trying to move our booth here n there
it spent us a lot of times

if u mean the UCSI in south wing no banner at outside
den soli to tell u tat our banner was hanged by our skool management
and since u noticed this event, in the any website or flyer or blabla..we got put our event website
if u dun check our website to find the location of event
soli..we dun have so much time to guide the visitor one by one

ok..tats our mistake tat should organize the event in our own university
suppose to be like tat
but sth is going wrong
so become like tis

soli to tell u tat 3pm was started the F and B
but for games was started on 6pm
followed our plan should be like tis
and we didnt mentioned that all the FnB is japanese
as i said..1st time event is hard to get the sponsor to cover our budget
so sounds funny for u all if we setup the booth like tat
but for our own student n other college
they still feel ok wif it

International skool doesnt mean perfect
ok..u ask some1 professional
any1...dun tell me a professional didnt make any mistake b4?
if they did a mistake..lets laugh together..ok?
soli to say tat..tats Bunkasai is pronounced to Boon Ka Sai
i dun feel any wrong wif tis words
if not..can u pronounce it to me?
i seriously want to learn it from the "mistake" we made

and plz do not think tat we are a "professional" workers
we r only a student
i feel soli to give a such failure to u all
tats our best we can do it anyway

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post Mar 6 2009, 03:07 AM

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Well, naturally things will go wrong when organising events, but you tried, and that's what matters, but hey, we live and learn, looking forward for a next event.
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:07 AM

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sorry, i having problem reading jeffreytjw . stopped reading when after the first 2 line. i can't believe this is their university standard english.
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(jeffreytjw @ Mar 6 2009, 03:02 AM)
International skool doesnt mean perfect
ok..u ask some1 professional
any1...dun tell me a professional didnt make any mistake b4?
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I don't think you get the main point here. It's not that we're mad that you made mistakes, its the fact that you hype it up so much and yet you didn't deliver.

The fact is that, you promise too much, despite knowing it's your first time event. When you promise too much, you create expectations. When people come and see that you don't live up to their expectations and your hype, we get disappointed. If you think about professionals, hell, look at ACGC, or even Animax.

Whenever commercial companies try to organize an ACG event they always fail at various points. Even events as successful as AFA, CF and GACC have issues but at least for all their hype, they lived up to the expectations. The first ever CF 7-8 years ago was nowhere near as big as it is now, and back then nobody ever heard about it.

Good events happen when the crew take their time to learn things and not pretend that they're the most awesome thing [like Animax]. Your biggest mistake isn't in running the event itself - but by creating all those expectations, and promoting it everywhere.

You want us to laugh about the mistakes? Sure, I think from today whenever anyone mentions UCSI and anime in the same sentence, anyone in this forum is bound to have a good time laughing.
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Mar 6 2009, 04:07 AM)
sorry, i having problem reading jeffreytjw . stopped reading when after the first 2 line. i can't believe this is their university standard english.
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soli to tell u tat
tis is my english standard
so?
i have to stop university right now?
i poor in english
but at least i good in designing
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:48 AM

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I can understand how hard it is to organize an event but next time plan well beforehand ya. Well, I was kind of dissappointed at first because in my mind I was thinking about takoyaki, curry rice, and so on. Also I was expecting more of a japanese theme kind of atmosphere. When I reached the spot at around 5.30pm, it was kind of unexpected because there are not much to see. Not to mention eat. I was searching for Takoyaki!!! Like a hungry wolf!! I left early because there is nothing that I wanted to eat there and not much to do as it was kind of boring. I bought rm5 coupons from my friend who can't make it to Bunkasai. Believe me, I still have the rm5 coupons doh.gif I don't even know what to buy since nothing is appealing to me. Well, I do admit that I am picky sometimes. tongue.gif The only thing that I liked about the event is the friendly cosplayers. They r so sweet smile.gif It will be better if there are some miko cosplays laugh.gif

Anyway,
Bunkasai is all about japanese food, merchandise (like paper fan, etc), mini games booth (like... shoot the cans using gun *not the real gun of course*) and so on. Well, I can understand it is quite difficult to get sponsors but at least plan well and make it big rather than becoming like the situation right now. This is just my comment. smile.gif

@Cyclonechuah : FYI, I am also a student from that University you mentioned earlier so please be polite. TQ notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(jeffreytjw @ Mar 6 2009, 04:25 AM)
soli to tell u tat
tis is my english standard
so?
i have to stop university right now?
i poor in english
but at least i good in designing
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Holy shit, your English is truly sublime and inspiring shocking.gif . What you put here reflects not just YOU but also USCI. Please think before you post anything in public forum. How are you going to design if you cannot communicate your ideas? And yes with your level of English competency I see here, please stop studying and go work in the farm. At least you don't have to talk to human beings while working in the farm.

Higher education demands and expects minimum standard of language which you utterly an epic fail. You bringing shame to Malaysia. doh.gif

As for the event, people here already gave constructive input on HOW to improve Bunkunsai which is invaluable lesson. Do not take it as personal attack. You are not interesting enough for us to be personal. Swallow your ego and listen. This is how human beings learn.

What makes people here so angry is utter lack of effort to make it Japanese despite it is being advertised as one. You could have at least contact the Japanese Embassy for consultation and assistance which they don't mind since they want to promote Japanese culture under Premier Taro Aso Cool Japan campaign. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS PART OR NOT?

I can go on but I don't see any point. rolleyes.gif

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Holy shit, your English is truly sublime and inspiring  shocking.gif . What you put here reflects not just YOU but also  USCI. Please think before you post anything in public forum. How are you going to design if you cannot communicate your ideas? And yes with your level of English competency I see here, please stop studying and go work in the farm. At least you don't have to talk to human beings while working in the farm. 

Higher education demands and expects minimum standard of language which you utterly an epic fail. You bringing shame to Malaysia.  doh.gif

As for the event, people here already gave constructive input on HOW to improve Bunkunsai which is invaluable lesson. Do not take it as personal attack. You are not interesting enough for us to be personal. Swallow your ego and listen. This is how human beings learn. 

What makes people here so angry is utter lack of effort to make it Japanese despite it is being advertised as one. You could have at least contact the Japanese Embassy for consultation and assistance which they don't mind since they want to promote Japanese culture under Premier Taro Aso Cool Japan campaign. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS PART OR NOT?

I can go on but I don't see any point.  rolleyes.gif
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u were lucky.. i don't mind small designated place or whatever. but the committees were not too friendly. got some but that can be considered good but most of them not
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So i gather that you guys were less than pleased by the event.

Thank god i elected to hikki at home.
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QUOTE(evanttc @ Mar 6 2009, 02:06 AM)
although i did not attend....

but as a student over there, i would hope that ppl here....

try to understand that this event is held for the 1st time....and all ppl facing different problem to get this things done.....FOR THE 1ST TIME...

if no one support, its hardly to get Improvement for next..
thanks
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No excuses... as i stated in my article, though it may have been a first-time for you and you did mention it was initially meant for UCSi students ONLY instead of being open to the public, you could've avoided the pitfalls by at least doing more detailed research into what a bunkasai/matsuri is all about.

QUOTE(W_9235 @ Mar 6 2009, 02:17 AM)
huhu.. doesnt seem that intresting.......... where's the cosplayer pic???
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Please refer to here.

Reason there being not much cosplay photos is because i did not want to capture the spirit of a matsuri by taking COSPLAYERS.

QUOTE(jeffreytjw @ Mar 6 2009, 02:24 AM)
as a part of committees,
i can said tis event is well done.

ok..as other ppl said
tis event was 1st event organized by AniMaC
see probably
1st event..
there is no mini event organize b4
but tis Bunkasai event is the 1st time

so
1st question
1st event..do u think we can get enuff sponsor for cover our budget?
2nd question
a perfect event is according to the budget

show me how perfect as u can if u r organize the 1st event in ur club
try make it as big as Bunkasai
come on..dun organize any mini event
u can make it?

ok
we seriously dun mind to give us the bad feedback
but plz
can u respect the committees to put so much effort on tis event?
tis event .. some of the committees was injured
u tot u can see the bamboo in every event?
plz dun anyhow criticize our name of event

most of our committees were 1st time experience in organizing event
so wat?
we are learning from the mistake that we made

anyway
thanks for some of them who spent their time to come for our event
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1. Your main sponsor was left hanging in the wind. I wonder if humiliation is the proper word.
2. You didn't invite him up on stage to cut the ribbon.
3. By doing this, you are insinuating you are not grateful for the sponsor's assistance.
4. You let A COMMITTEE MEMBER WIN A LUCKY-DRAW PRIZE.
5. Your emcees mixed up the names of the cosplay characters.
6. You let the lucky-draw drag on too long. And please don't have the same prizes. Three prizes of different value would've been enough. Not 5 prizes of the same value ie anime/music DVDs.

QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Mar 6 2009, 06:14 AM)


Holy shit, your English is truly sublime and inspiring  shocking.gif . What you put here reflects not just YOU but also  USCI. Please think before you post anything in public forum. How are you going to design if you cannot communicate your ideas? And yes with your level of English competency I see here, please stop studying and go work in the farm. At least you don't have to talk to human beings while working in the farm. 

Higher education demands and expects minimum standard of language which you utterly an epic fail. You bringing shame to Malaysia.  doh.gif

As for the event, people here already gave constructive input on HOW to improve Bunkunsai which is invaluable lesson. Do not take it as personal attack. You are not interesting enough for us to be personal. Swallow your ego and listen. This is how human beings learn. 

What makes people here so angry is utter lack of effort to make it Japanese despite it is being advertised as one. You could have at least contact the Japanese Embassy for consultation and assistance which they don't mind since they want to promote Japanese culture under Premier Taro Aso Cool Japan campaign. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS PART OR NOT?

I can go on but I don't see any point.  rolleyes.gif
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I agree.

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QUOTE(DeidaraGS @ Mar 6 2009, 01:18 AM)
I didnt get to eat curry rice D:
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eh... i didn't no u went there also...


Added on March 6, 2009, 10:50 amit seems i'm saved by the invitation from my friends to go watch "The Watchmen" which is another good movie after "Dark Knight" as it's based on the actual 1980s comic itself...

looking from everyone's POV on Japanese Culture... i guess watching "The Watchmen" is way more worth than wandering around the festival with rage in our minds bout it... XD

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post Mar 6 2009, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Mar 6 2009, 03:07 AM)
sorry, i having problem reading jeffreytjw . stopped reading when after the first 2 line. i can't believe this is their university standard english.
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"Sorry, I am having problems reading jefferytjw's posts. Stopped reading after the first 2 lines. I can't believe this is the standard of English of their university"

There, fixed.smile.gif

Sorry to disrupt the thread, I just get kinda anal seeing someone trying to nitpick when they can't even get things right themselves.

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tat's not all the ppl must GOOD in english education
some ppl is good in theory education
some ppl is good in practical education
yes..since long ago i already admitted that my english is worse till now
but in our life is keep learning till we left on tis world
anyway thanks for ur comments about my english
i will try to work harder on improving it

ok
it's not i dunwan to accept the comments
watever the comments that given from u all..i accepted
but whoever anyhow to criticize our committees and our event
wat bunkasai become bunkanasai
if some1 anyhow change ur event name to others name which is rude
how is ur feeling?
u want to blame me it is doesnt matter
but plz do not blame those committees who really put a lot of effort on it..

the event progress is not as smooth as u tot
we r facing a lot of problems
even the last week
the skool management gave us a problems
as i mentioned..most of us..consider 80% committees are 1st experience on organizing event..
all the problems we are trying to solve
since last min appear another problem, we r failed to solve it..

many of our things was saved our budget
especially bamboo.. there were cut by our own committees
so i heard that booth doesnt have any culture feeling?
ok i accepted..we will try to improve it

anyway
i sincerely apologize that the event was disappointing u all
i accepted every comments except those comment on trying ejek our event..
but plz
do not blame our committees..they really put a lot of efforts
we try to make it well..but not as well as others event

thanks for the comments and soli for the inconvenient caused


Added on March 6, 2009, 11:37 am
QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Mar 6 2009, 12:29 PM)
"Sorry, I am having problems reading jefferytjw's postsStopped reading after the first 2 linesI can't believe this is the standard of English of their university"

There, fixed.smile.gif

Sorry to disrupt the thread, I just get kinda anal seeing someone trying to nitpick when they can't even get things right themselves.
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thanks
but he or she is right..coz my english was terrible worse

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As I was part of a committee of a sub-standard noob con as well....i can understand the problems and difficulties faced by jeffrey and his team but I also can understand everyone's disappointment with a sub-par event. Again i'll have to play devil's advocate.

for Event goers:
Please be more understanding on the plight of organisers and understand that NO ONE organises an event to fail. It is also not easy to setup an event no matter how you thought you could've made it much better....it will never go 100% according to plan. With experience though, you can close the gap between expectations and the actual event. Also event has alot of people to manage and when even if someone fails to do his/her part, a big impact to the event can happen. So all i can say is keep your comments constructive...don't expect too much and be overcritical of a startup con/event. Hopefully next event will be a better one! wink.gif

for Event organisers:
For you to actually organise the event is already an achievement by itself. rclxms.gif It was no easy task but you brought a rickety band of students together and organised something out of nothing. Don't take all negative comments personally though....as event goers tend to have an expectation they expect to be fulfilled. Don't try to defend yourself too much on the internet either as it tends to bait trolls and other less-tactful posters to engage in a trolling session and you might get needlessly worked up over nothing. Do not in any circumstance insult or scold the event goers for their comments as they have shown their support by attending your event. Have some PR skills, and try to elate their disappointment by making a better one next time in a hope to win back their confidence. Very important: Have a post-mortem session and discuss feedback from all parties including your committee right after the event if possible. What went wrong? What can we do to improve next time? What have we learned? Ask these questions, document them, and at least learn from the experience.

PS: pls try not to go down to personal attacks on jeffrey's command of english. Let it rest.

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