QUOTE(kct-86 @ Mar 6 2009, 01:40 AM)
Agreed.... Next time they do... I'll be sitting at my home watching anime and draw better...Japanese Cultural Night 09 on 5th march, Bunkasai 2009 @ Cheras, there's cosplay!
Japanese Cultural Night 09 on 5th march, Bunkasai 2009 @ Cheras, there's cosplay!
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Mar 6 2009, 01:48 AM
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Mar 6 2009, 02:06 AM
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although i did not attend....
but as a student over there, i would hope that ppl here.... try to understand that this event is held for the 1st time....and all ppl facing different problem to get this things done.....FOR THE 1ST TIME... if no one support, its hardly to get Improvement for next.. thanks |
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Mar 6 2009, 02:17 AM
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huhu.. doesnt seem that intresting.......... where's the cosplayer pic???
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Mar 6 2009, 02:24 AM
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as a part of committees,
i can said tis event is well done. ok..as other ppl said tis event was 1st event organized by AniMaC see probably 1st event.. there is no mini event organize b4 but tis Bunkasai event is the 1st time so 1st question 1st event..do u think we can get enuff sponsor for cover our budget? 2nd question a perfect event is according to the budget show me how perfect as u can if u r organize the 1st event in ur club try make it as big as Bunkasai come on..dun organize any mini event u can make it? ok we seriously dun mind to give us the bad feedback but plz can u respect the committees to put so much effort on tis event? tis event .. some of the committees was injured u tot u can see the bamboo in every event? plz dun anyhow criticize our name of event most of our committees were 1st time experience in organizing event so wat? we are learning from the mistake that we made anyway thanks for some of them who spent their time to come for our event |
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Mar 6 2009, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(evanttc @ Mar 6 2009, 02:06 AM) although i did not attend.... First time is not an excuse when the comms go out and promote it like it's the most awesome thing to happen. I came a bit too early [2.30 ish] and the event isnt even in full swing. I was honestly expecting at least takoyaki, even then I'd forgive the lack of it. You promo and hype it up for weeks, wooing outside people to come on a WEEKDAY. You know I actually got lost trying to find you?but as a student over there, i would hope that ppl here.... try to understand that this event is held for the 1st time....and all ppl facing different problem to get this things done.....FOR THE 1ST TIME... if no one support, its hardly to get Improvement for next.. thanks I went to UCSI near the Giant there. I went in, didn't see a single promo banner/bunting until I went wayyyyy further into the building, and it says 'North Wing'. I ask one of the guys where the north wing is, and I was told to take a bus. The least you couldve done to prevent this is to have a banner up front where it's OBVIOUS for first time visitors. First time is not an excuse when you are doing something and expect outsiders to enjoy it. If you're doing something for the first time, do it for your own students first. Learn the ropes, learn the right things to do, the wrong things to avoid, and what mishaps may happen. Then only you can go out and promote off campus. First time is not an excuse when you say the event starts at 1pm, and even by 3pm your event isn't in full swing yet. I went there expecting to spend some time and cash on lunch. Do you know how disappointed I was to see canned drinks and pre-packed Ramly burgers, on a JAPANESE THEMED EVENT? Also, your exhibits have teribel engrish. You call yourselves an INTERNATIONAL university, the least you could do is some spell checking/grammar edits on your copywriting. And for heavens' sake, it's not pronounced Boon Kar Sai. I understand you're trying to bring yourselves up in the scene, but even when you realize that you don't have much of a foundation on how to do things, you should know better than trying to impress outsiders with empty promises. I'm afraid your reputation is going to be scarred for a long time to come. This post has been edited by Silencers: Mar 6 2009, 02:40 AM |
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Mar 6 2009, 02:54 AM
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ramly burger
have you guy even do research beforehand ? jaya jusco make croquet and they are like 1 ringgit per piece you can order from them by bulk if you put them as sponsor , I dont see why not they dont give you good discount . and there is a type of noodle they fry it on the spot , just use cheap noodle or something and fry it on the spot lah , it make you feel more japanese .nobody gonna complain the taste cause nobody really eat it before ... |
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Mar 6 2009, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE(Silencers @ Mar 6 2009, 03:33 AM) First time is not an excuse when the comms go out and promote it like it's the most awesome thing to happen. I came a bit too early [2.30 ish] and the event isnt even in full swing. I was honestly expecting at least takoyaki, even then I'd forgive the lack of it. You promo and hype it up for weeks, wooing outside people to come on a WEEKDAY. You know I actually got lost trying to find you? first time is not an excuse..i acceptableI went to UCSI near the Giant there. I went in, didn't see a single promo banner/bunting until I went wayyyyy further into the building, and it says 'North Wing'. I ask one of the guys where the north wing is, and I was told to take a bus. The least you couldve done to prevent this is to have a banner up front where it's OBVIOUS for first time visitors. First time is not an excuse when you are doing something and expect outsiders to enjoy it. If you're doing something for the first time, do it for your own students first. Learn the ropes, learn the right things to do, the wrong things to avoid, and what mishaps may happen. Then only you can go out and promote off campus. First time is not an excuse when you say the event starts at 1pm, and even by 3pm your event isn't in full swing yet. I went there expecting to spend some time and cash on lunch. Do you know how disappointed I was to see canned drinks and pre-packed Ramly burgers, on a JAPANESE THEMED EVENT? Also, your exhibits have teribel engrish. You call yourselves an INTERNATIONAL university, the least you could do is some spell checking/grammar edits on your copywriting. And for heavens' sake, it's not pronounced Boon Kar Sai. I understand you're trying to bring yourselves up in the scene, but even when you realize that you don't have much of a foundation on how to do things, you should know better than trying to impress outsiders with empty promises. I'm afraid your reputation is going to be scarred for a long time to come. but as u know..recently was a raining day we trying to put a backup plan when the rain started, we are trying to move our booth here n there it spent us a lot of times if u mean the UCSI in south wing no banner at outside den soli to tell u tat our banner was hanged by our skool management and since u noticed this event, in the any website or flyer or blabla..we got put our event website if u dun check our website to find the location of event soli..we dun have so much time to guide the visitor one by one ok..tats our mistake tat should organize the event in our own university suppose to be like tat but sth is going wrong so become like tis soli to tell u tat 3pm was started the F and B but for games was started on 6pm followed our plan should be like tis and we didnt mentioned that all the FnB is japanese as i said..1st time event is hard to get the sponsor to cover our budget so sounds funny for u all if we setup the booth like tat but for our own student n other college they still feel ok wif it International skool doesnt mean perfect ok..u ask some1 professional any1...dun tell me a professional didnt make any mistake b4? if they did a mistake..lets laugh together..ok? soli to say tat..tats Bunkasai is pronounced to Boon Ka Sai i dun feel any wrong wif tis words if not..can u pronounce it to me? i seriously want to learn it from the "mistake" we made and plz do not think tat we are a "professional" workers we r only a student i feel soli to give a such failure to u all tats our best we can do it anyway |
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Mar 6 2009, 03:07 AM
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Well, naturally things will go wrong when organising events, but you tried, and that's what matters, but hey, we live and learn, looking forward for a next event.
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Mar 6 2009, 03:07 AM
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sorry, i having problem reading jeffreytjw . stopped reading when after the first 2 line. i can't believe this is their university standard english.
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Mar 6 2009, 03:19 AM
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QUOTE(jeffreytjw @ Mar 6 2009, 03:02 AM) International skool doesnt mean perfect I don't think you get the main point here. It's not that we're mad that you made mistakes, its the fact that you hype it up so much and yet you didn't deliver.ok..u ask some1 professional any1...dun tell me a professional didnt make any mistake b4? The fact is that, you promise too much, despite knowing it's your first time event. When you promise too much, you create expectations. When people come and see that you don't live up to their expectations and your hype, we get disappointed. If you think about professionals, hell, look at ACGC, or even Animax. Whenever commercial companies try to organize an ACG event they always fail at various points. Even events as successful as AFA, CF and GACC have issues but at least for all their hype, they lived up to the expectations. The first ever CF 7-8 years ago was nowhere near as big as it is now, and back then nobody ever heard about it. Good events happen when the crew take their time to learn things and not pretend that they're the most awesome thing [like Animax]. Your biggest mistake isn't in running the event itself - but by creating all those expectations, and promoting it everywhere. You want us to laugh about the mistakes? Sure, I think from today whenever anyone mentions UCSI and anime in the same sentence, anyone in this forum is bound to have a good time laughing. |
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Mar 6 2009, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Mar 6 2009, 04:07 AM) sorry, i having problem reading jeffreytjw . stopped reading when after the first 2 line. i can't believe this is their university standard english. soli to tell u tattis is my english standard so? i have to stop university right now? i poor in english but at least i good in designing |
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Mar 6 2009, 03:48 AM
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I can understand how hard it is to organize an event but next time plan well beforehand ya. Well, I was kind of dissappointed at first because in my mind I was thinking about takoyaki, curry rice, and so on. Also I was expecting more of a japanese theme kind of atmosphere. When I reached the spot at around 5.30pm, it was kind of unexpected because there are not much to see. Not to mention eat. I was searching for Takoyaki!!! Like a hungry wolf!! I left early because there is nothing that I wanted to eat there and not much to do as it was kind of boring. I bought rm5 coupons from my friend who can't make it to Bunkasai. Believe me, I still have the rm5 coupons
Anyway, Bunkasai is all about japanese food, merchandise (like paper fan, etc), mini games booth (like... shoot the cans using gun *not the real gun of course*) and so on. Well, I can understand it is quite difficult to get sponsors but at least plan well and make it big rather than becoming like the situation right now. This is just my comment. @Cyclonechuah : FYI, I am also a student from that University you mentioned earlier so please be polite. TQ |
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Mar 6 2009, 06:14 AM
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QUOTE(jeffreytjw @ Mar 6 2009, 04:25 AM) soli to tell u tat tis is my english standard so? i have to stop university right now? i poor in english but at least i good in designing Holy shit, your English is truly sublime and inspiring Higher education demands and expects minimum standard of language which you utterly an epic fail. You bringing shame to Malaysia. As for the event, people here already gave constructive input on HOW to improve Bunkunsai which is invaluable lesson. Do not take it as personal attack. You are not interesting enough for us to be personal. Swallow your ego and listen. This is how human beings learn. What makes people here so angry is utter lack of effort to make it Japanese despite it is being advertised as one. You could have at least contact the Japanese Embassy for consultation and assistance which they don't mind since they want to promote Japanese culture under Premier Taro Aso Cool Japan campaign. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS PART OR NOT? I can go on but I don't see any point. This post has been edited by Stormy001_M1A2: Mar 6 2009, 06:21 AM |
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Mar 6 2009, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Mar 6 2009, 06:14 AM) Holy shit, your English is truly sublime and inspiring Higher education demands and expects minimum standard of language which you utterly an epic fail. You bringing shame to Malaysia. As for the event, people here already gave constructive input on HOW to improve Bunkunsai which is invaluable lesson. Do not take it as personal attack. You are not interesting enough for us to be personal. Swallow your ego and listen. This is how human beings learn. What makes people here so angry is utter lack of effort to make it Japanese despite it is being advertised as one. You could have at least contact the Japanese Embassy for consultation and assistance which they don't mind since they want to promote Japanese culture under Premier Taro Aso Cool Japan campaign. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS PART OR NOT? I can go on but I don't see any point. |
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Mar 6 2009, 07:49 AM
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So i gather that you guys were less than pleased by the event.
Thank god i elected to hikki at home. |
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Mar 6 2009, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(evanttc @ Mar 6 2009, 02:06 AM) although i did not attend.... No excuses... as i stated in my article, though it may have been a first-time for you and you did mention it was initially meant for UCSi students ONLY instead of being open to the public, you could've avoided the pitfalls by at least doing more detailed research into what a bunkasai/matsuri is all about.but as a student over there, i would hope that ppl here.... try to understand that this event is held for the 1st time....and all ppl facing different problem to get this things done.....FOR THE 1ST TIME... if no one support, its hardly to get Improvement for next.. thanks QUOTE(W_9235 @ Mar 6 2009, 02:17 AM) Please refer to here.Reason there being not much cosplay photos is because i did not want to capture the spirit of a matsuri by taking COSPLAYERS. QUOTE(jeffreytjw @ Mar 6 2009, 02:24 AM) as a part of committees, 1. Your main sponsor was left hanging in the wind. I wonder if humiliation is the proper word.i can said tis event is well done. ok..as other ppl said tis event was 1st event organized by AniMaC see probably 1st event.. there is no mini event organize b4 but tis Bunkasai event is the 1st time so 1st question 1st event..do u think we can get enuff sponsor for cover our budget? 2nd question a perfect event is according to the budget show me how perfect as u can if u r organize the 1st event in ur club try make it as big as Bunkasai come on..dun organize any mini event u can make it? ok we seriously dun mind to give us the bad feedback but plz can u respect the committees to put so much effort on tis event? tis event .. some of the committees was injured u tot u can see the bamboo in every event? plz dun anyhow criticize our name of event most of our committees were 1st time experience in organizing event so wat? we are learning from the mistake that we made anyway thanks for some of them who spent their time to come for our event 2. You didn't invite him up on stage to cut the ribbon. 3. By doing this, you are insinuating you are not grateful for the sponsor's assistance. 4. You let A COMMITTEE MEMBER WIN A LUCKY-DRAW PRIZE. 5. Your emcees mixed up the names of the cosplay characters. 6. You let the lucky-draw drag on too long. And please don't have the same prizes. Three prizes of different value would've been enough. Not 5 prizes of the same value ie anime/music DVDs. QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Mar 6 2009, 06:14 AM) Holy shit, your English is truly sublime and inspiring Higher education demands and expects minimum standard of language which you utterly an epic fail. You bringing shame to Malaysia. As for the event, people here already gave constructive input on HOW to improve Bunkunsai which is invaluable lesson. Do not take it as personal attack. You are not interesting enough for us to be personal. Swallow your ego and listen. This is how human beings learn. What makes people here so angry is utter lack of effort to make it Japanese despite it is being advertised as one. You could have at least contact the Japanese Embassy for consultation and assistance which they don't mind since they want to promote Japanese culture under Premier Taro Aso Cool Japan campaign. DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS PART OR NOT? I can go on but I don't see any point. |
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Mar 6 2009, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(DeidaraGS @ Mar 6 2009, 01:18 AM) eh... i didn't no u went there also...Added on March 6, 2009, 10:50 amit seems i'm saved by the invitation from my friends to go watch "The Watchmen" which is another good movie after "Dark Knight" as it's based on the actual 1980s comic itself... looking from everyone's POV on Japanese Culture... i guess watching "The Watchmen" is way more worth than wandering around the festival with rage in our minds bout it... XD This post has been edited by <* Star Dust *>: Mar 6 2009, 10:50 AM |
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Mar 6 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Mar 6 2009, 03:07 AM) sorry, i having problem reading jeffreytjw . stopped reading when after the first 2 line. i can't believe this is their university standard english. "Sorry, I am having problems reading jefferytjw's posts. Stopped reading after the first 2 lines. I can't believe this is the standard of English of their university"There, fixed. Sorry to disrupt the thread, I just get kinda anal seeing someone trying to nitpick when they can't even get things right themselves. |
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Mar 6 2009, 11:34 AM
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tat's not all the ppl must GOOD in english education
some ppl is good in theory education some ppl is good in practical education yes..since long ago i already admitted that my english is worse till now but in our life is keep learning till we left on tis world anyway thanks for ur comments about my english i will try to work harder on improving it ok it's not i dunwan to accept the comments watever the comments that given from u all..i accepted but whoever anyhow to criticize our committees and our event wat bunkasai become bunkanasai if some1 anyhow change ur event name to others name which is rude how is ur feeling? u want to blame me it is doesnt matter but plz do not blame those committees who really put a lot of effort on it.. the event progress is not as smooth as u tot we r facing a lot of problems even the last week the skool management gave us a problems as i mentioned..most of us..consider 80% committees are 1st experience on organizing event.. all the problems we are trying to solve since last min appear another problem, we r failed to solve it.. many of our things was saved our budget especially bamboo.. there were cut by our own committees so i heard that booth doesnt have any culture feeling? ok i accepted..we will try to improve it anyway i sincerely apologize that the event was disappointing u all i accepted every comments except those comment on trying ejek our event.. but plz do not blame our committees..they really put a lot of efforts we try to make it well..but not as well as others event thanks for the comments and soli for the inconvenient caused Added on March 6, 2009, 11:37 am QUOTE(ihatemyguts @ Mar 6 2009, 12:29 PM) "Sorry, I am having problems reading jefferytjw's posts. Stopped reading after the first 2 lines. I can't believe this is the standard of English of their university" thanksThere, fixed. Sorry to disrupt the thread, I just get kinda anal seeing someone trying to nitpick when they can't even get things right themselves. but he or she is right..coz my english was terrible worse This post has been edited by jeffreytjw: Mar 6 2009, 11:37 AM |
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Mar 6 2009, 11:40 AM
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As I was part of a committee of a sub-standard noob con as well....i can understand the problems and difficulties faced by jeffrey and his team but I also can understand everyone's disappointment with a sub-par event. Again i'll have to play devil's advocate.
for Event goers: Please be more understanding on the plight of organisers and understand that NO ONE organises an event to fail. It is also not easy to setup an event no matter how you thought you could've made it much better....it will never go 100% according to plan. With experience though, you can close the gap between expectations and the actual event. Also event has alot of people to manage and when even if someone fails to do his/her part, a big impact to the event can happen. So all i can say is keep your comments constructive...don't expect too much and be overcritical of a startup con/event. Hopefully next event will be a better one! for Event organisers: For you to actually organise the event is already an achievement by itself. PS: pls try not to go down to personal attacks on jeffrey's command of english. Let it rest. This post has been edited by wolfx: Mar 6 2009, 11:49 AM |
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