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 Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2009, Liverpool 4-1 MU WELL DESERVED 3 Points!

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post Feb 27 2009, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 27 2009, 06:33 PM)
Dalglish for the post..??  hmm.gif
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Arr...I m just bullshitting...Anyway, let the good news keep coming... Won the match agains RM,then parry get sacked... What's next? shocking.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 27 2009, 06:37 PM)
Arr...I m just bullshitting...Anyway, let the good news keep coming... Won the match agains RM,then parry get sacked... What's next?  shocking.gif
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we winn the epl and Lucas got kissed by torres...
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post Feb 27 2009, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 27 2009, 06:44 PM)
we winn the epl and Lucas got kissed by torres...
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Is that even a good news? shocking.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 27 2009, 06:44 PM)
we winn the epl and Lucas got kissed by torres...
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Somehow I remembered the picture of Gerrard and Alonso... if you get I mean..
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 27 2009, 06:37 PM)
Arr...I m just bullshitting...Anyway, let the good news keep coming... Won the match agains RM,then parry get sacked... What's next?  shocking.gif
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Presumably Gillete is next, and when that happens hopefully, we're down to one owner to get rid off.
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 27 2009, 02:42 PM)
I can see your reasoning but its alittle flawed. You are comparing Jose success based on his multi million dollar Chelsea side, which was vastly superior to Rafa's squad and probably the best assembled squad in the world back then. Its a little skewed dont you think ? Winning the EPL these days simply requires quality team and depth, which Jose had. He inherited a solid and on the rise team. Then further strengthened the team with the likes of Drogba, Cole, Gallas, SWP, Robben, Carvalho, Makalele etc. Jose has a knack of choosing a well built team rather taking his chances with lesser teams that pose real challenge. Chelsea was a already strong team and Inter was a defending champion of Italy. Easy to assume he has this ability to instill a winning mentality he has the freedom and finanical power to built a winning team. IMO his success in England made possible because of A) The squad he's had B) Arsenal was in decline C) Man Utd and us were in progress of rebuilding. Even with his vastly superior Chelsea team, how many games did he go through scrapping 1-0 or 2-1 jammy wins with Lampard's deflections and Terry's dying minutes headers ? Our league record against them was bad during the first season, but we then managed to drew seasons after until the day he got the sack. We could have won that home game last season if it wasnt for that ridiculous ref error. We lost the Carling final (we could have won it had it not been Gerrard's OG), but beaten them twice in the CL and in Charity Shield. Overall, Rafa has done well against him. Last season, we saw the big 4 gotten their acts together and lo and behold he struggled. He started losing and drawing away games and couldnt get those scrappy jammy wins. His managerial ability was under scrutiny by the men in suits and even by his own players. IIRC he got the sacked because he lost the dressing room, if that were true then so much for the motivational skill he supposedly have.

Maybe i just want nothing to do with someone who had an affiliation with the blues. Maybe that bad mouth of his when he called us a small club still rings in my head. Maybe, just maybe he is simply overrated and i just dont fall for the hype.
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firstly, i am not saying Jose is better than Rafa. Yes, Rafa has better a better head to head record. But winning all your matches against Chelsea doesnt guarantee you the league title. Its a whole season thingy. To do it in your first season AND to repeat it again, speaks something. Perhaps Arsenal were in decline and MU rebuilding. MU were struggling early this season and Arsenal never went into the high gear. Did Liverpool take any advantage to stretch their lead?

I thought Jose left because he wanted to proof a point against Abrahamovic? Because Roman tinkered with his team and went and buy players that he didnt really want? Did Jose really lost the support of his players? Surprising, if the bunch of players who just won 2 titles under him suddenly revolt?

Is Mourinho's Chelsea really that superior to Rafa's current Liverpool? I dont think so. In his Drogba, we have our Torres. In his Lampard, we have our Gerrard. In his Terry, we have a Carragher. Monster Masc is probably equal to Makele. So, i dont think the present Liverpool's squad is really miles away from Mourinho's team in his first 2 season. Its a bit unfair to the man to suggest that Liverpool will only do well under Mourinho if the chequebooks are splashed for him.

Yeah, i didnt like the shhhhhhsssss to the anfield crowd and calling us as a small club. Its all part of the job. But the man in still a winner, the last i checked his record. I am hoping Rafa will be one too for Liverpool, and not be replaced by one.



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post Feb 27 2009, 07:11 PM

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finally Parry will go.. thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:14 PM

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parry leaving? thats better news than the madrid win
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:15 PM

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its the bookies at work again!
so instead of rafa it was actually parry leaving.
i wonder if the bookies odds of dalglish coming back at 3-1 still stays or has been lowered.
the bookies definitely know something we dont tongue.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 27 2009, 08:15 PM)
its the bookies at work again!
so instead of rafa it was actually parry leaving.
i wonder if the bookies odds of dalglish coming back at 3-1 still stays or has been lowered.
the bookies definitely know something we dont tongue.gif
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ok how bout King Kenny for Parry post? drool.gif biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardinho @ Feb 27 2009, 07:17 PM)
ok how bout  King Kenny for Parry post?  drool.gif  biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif copy me ka? tongue.gif

Anyway, I just hope the new guy can get us a new buyer that buy the club away from yanks. rclxm9.gif

Looking at the BRIGHT BRIGHT FUTURE! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 27 2009, 08:19 PM)
laugh.gif  copy me ka?  tongue.gif

Anyway, I just hope the new guy can get us a new buyer that buy the club away from yanks.  rclxm9.gif

Looking at the BRIGHT BRIGHT FUTURE!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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u say first ar bro?din notice lar coz din read the previous post coz maybe just too excited for the Parry news.. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(gerrardinho @ Feb 27 2009, 07:22 PM)
u say first ar bro?din notice lar coz din read the previous post coz maybe just too excited for the Parry news.. biggrin.gif
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Lol..joking only la...relax tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Anyway, I dont think we will get any replacement soon with Parry in charge until end of season. wink.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 27 2009, 08:24 PM)
Lol..joking only la...relax  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

Anyway, I dont think we will get any replacement soon with Parry in charge until end of season.  wink.gif
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as long as we finally get rid of him...i really enjoying the news.. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 27 2009, 07:00 PM)
firstly, i am not saying Jose is better than Rafa.  Yes, Rafa has better a better head to head record.  But winning all your matches against Chelsea doesnt guarantee you the league title. Its a whole season thingy.  To do it in your first season AND to repeat it again, speaks something.  Perhaps Arsenal were in decline and MU rebuilding. MU were struggling early this season and Arsenal never went into the high gear. Did Liverpool take any advantage to stretch their lead?

I thought Jose left because he wanted to proof a point against Abrahamovic? Because Roman tinkered with his team and went and buy players that he didnt really want? Did Jose really lost the support of his players? Surprising, if the bunch of players who just won 2 titles under him suddenly revolt?

Is Mourinho's Chelsea really that superior to Rafa's current Liverpool? I dont think so.  In his Drogba, we have our Torres.  In his Lampard, we have our Gerrard.  In his Terry, we have a Carragher.  Monster Masc is probably equal to Makele.    So, i dont think the present Liverpool's squad is really miles away from Mourinho's team in his first 2 season. Its a bit unfair to the man to suggest that Liverpool will only do well under Mourinho if the chequebooks are splashed for him.

Yeah, i didnt like the shhhhhhsssss to the anfield crowd and calling us as a small club. Its all part of the job.  But the man in still a winner, the last i checked his record.  I am hoping Rafa will be one too for Liverpool, and not be replaced by one.
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Yes winning the tile goes alot more than just winning games against the big 4. I still believe they were able to do it due to their massive squad with abundance of quality. It was made even easier due to circumstances i mentioned previously. In regards to our slip up this season it goes both ways doesnt it ? As much as we didnt capitalize on others slip up, bar Utd, the other big 4 too failed to capitalize on ours.

The point i was making about Mourinho title winning team was that team was vastly superior compared to other big 4 teams at that time, hence why he was able to win the title at that point. The team we have now is nearly good as the current Chelsea team but still nowhere near as good as that title winning team with the likes of Robben and SWP/Cole/Duff down the wings. It goes further than just comparinng the first 11, you also need to look at their bench that consisted of Parker, Shechevko, Ferreira, Makalele etc. Can we truly say we have a squad as good as that title winning squad ? Truth is the squad we have is good enough for CL but still lacks in depth for the EPL.

As I've said im not sure if its true about the player revolt but coincidently, the medias have reported it was the players that pushed out Scolari so if thats true clearly they have the capacity to revolt against Mourinho.

Anyway, seems like its poitnless arguing over the man since Parry agreed to quit so Rafa is bound to sign a new contract.
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its really interesting to see thou whether or not he sign for new contract, plus its really up to the owner them selves cause a lot of rumors recently liking jose with liverpool if benitez decided to leave and that's one pretty tempting if u ask me..one thing more what if liverpool didn't win anything this season?? all the blame surely gonna go to rafa hands and the fan probably not gonna be on rafa side if those situation happen again...
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According to the latest official UEFA coefficient rankings, Rafa Benitez’s Liverpool team are now in top position in the list of most successful European Clubs after their excellent start to the European club campaign this season.

Liverpool beat Real Madrid 1-0 at The Bernabeu on Wednesday night to put them in the driving seat for the second-leg at Anfield in two weeks time, making Liverpool the highest ranked team not only this year, but also in the past five years, just before Benitez took charge of The Reds and guided them to a Champions League win over AC Milan in a memorable night in Istanbul in 2005.

The UEFA coefficient data ranks teams based on both the results and the standard of opposition in all European competitions over a five-year period.

1 - Liverpool FC (114.077)
2 - Chelsea FC (110.077)
3 - Barcelona (109.403)
4 - AC Milan (109.306)
5 - Arsenal FC (101.077)
6 – Sevilla FC (100.403)
7 - Manchester Utd FC (99.077)
8 - Bayern Munich (93.664)
9 – Olympique Lyonnais (90.576)
10 - Inter Milan (87.306)

Liverpool also have the highest ranking for this present season with (18.1775 points) closely followed by Bayern Munich with 17.8625, with Atletico Madrid and FC Barcelona equal third with 16.2125 points each.

Next come Arsenal and Chelsea, who are equal on 16.1775 points, followed by Manchester United, who have 15.1775 UEFA coefficient points this season.

The points are calculated the following way:

The basis for the UEFA rankings is the performance of teams in the European Cups during a five year period. During that period each team gets two points for a win and one point for a draw. One bonus point is allocated for reaching the quarter final, the semi final and the final. Qualification for the first knock-out round of the Champions League yields 4 possible bonus points (from 2004-2009 - 1 bonus point, prior to 2004 - no bonus).

http://www.premiershiplatest.com.nyud.net:...09/5517279.html

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QUOTE(gerrardinho @ Feb 27 2009, 07:26 PM)
as long as we finally get rid of him...i really enjoying the news.. thumbup.gif
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Tony Fernandes, anyone? drool.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(wreth @ Feb 27 2009, 09:11 PM)
Tony Fernandes, anyone? drool.gif
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WHAT?

Are you serious? You best be joking shakehead.gif
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post Feb 27 2009, 09:27 PM

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Great news Parry agreed to leave, next the owners.. hopefully they will soon follow

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