it depends who the new manager is. 

Well, why NOT Jose? Every appointment is a risk but Jose has some criteria whom i feel, fits the current Liverpool situation

-We are in need of a title.  I know there is such thing call long term plan, rebuilding, etc etc but face it. We are about to be knocked out of our perch.  Jose fits because he has done it with Chelsea and looks like repeating it with Inter.

-Liverpool, like Chelsea and Inter has quality players forming the spine of a team.  I think Jose fits the bill of someone who can use Torres, Gerrard, Carragher, Reina, Alonso and now maybe MArtin, Arbeloa and make Liverpool win the league.  Ok, there is always that big question of Mourinho winning it with Abrahamovic millions.  and i think even Jose cant transform City or Spurs into winners overnight.  But i think Liverpool is a different scenario. 
Darn it, it will be interesting to see how our current spine+ wannabes+yet to be proven talent+the updowns players respond to someone like Mourinho  . 

- we sometimes lack the winning mentality.  It looks hard for the team to just go out and go on a 10-15 winning streak.  I am not sure if its due to the rotation, mentality of players or even the pressure from fans.  Jose has the record of instilling a winning mentality in his team. 
Yes, changing Rafa will reset the 5 year plan.  But then, with Mourinho's ability and mentality, perhaps the appointment will `fast-track/launch' the foundation that Rafa has built? Sometimes i think we fear too much about destroying what Rafa is trying to build.  Look, if Rafa has indeed build a good foundation, a good manager coming him to replace him might not necessary destroy and rebuild but just continue rebuilding and reinforcing?

Again, i am not advocating a `Rafa Out Jose in' campaign.   
Therefore, I also harbor a hope that Liverpool will do well this season, providing Rafa with more time, perhaps for another season.  I said in beginning of this season that this present season will define Rafa's future with us.  Looks like the next 10 matches will define it.  If we secure 2nd place comfortably and stay close behind MU and spring a surprise in the CL, then Rafa's position will be secured. 
But then, this is a just a lazy Friday afternoon musing...surely, Jose wont come to Liverpool...  

you got enough "FATS" there...

back to the question, i prefer heinze than dossena, at least heinze is prove to be good cb/sb... 

lol i found this out ...

Posted on: Sep 13 2008, 11:05 PM by Desert Punk in pool thread..

Just took a short tour at the man u thread and boy,they sure are bitter about the result.

are u sure he is man utd fan?

He is a united fans that accept lose like a man.In case you didn't know, he called us lolly and I believe alien2003 already warned him.

Here's what I meant.
Again, I don't think a liverpool fans will go on calling his own team as lolly team.  He is just a realistic manu fans that hate Liverpool but accept the lose as a fact.

And the post "WA WA WA" he posted is more towards giving support to gto87 than to insult them. 


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ok..  i acknowledge ur finding him as man utd fan but to me during that time he seem like a pool fan... so its still justify for me using "some"..

Think if you ask Man Utd fans they will tell you Heinze had one fantastic season, then gotten a lengthy injury for a season and was never the same player. He is a decent LB because he has a strong presence, not pacey but quite athletic, and can be a goal threat. Has the ability to play in CB so that provides a little cover if needed. Spanish speaking player and probably a good senior player for Insua to learn his trade from. Typical Rafa-esque player if you ask me.

Given his abilities and EPL experience, he was defo an upgrade to Riise, Hence why Ferguson was reluctant to sell him to us. Him against Dossena ? Obviously given Heinze is an experienced EPL player that would make him a better player than Doss.

Well,it seems i've become quite the celebrity because of just 1 post.I guess i do win at summaries.Well let me help clear out some stuff.

First,I don't like bitter people in general especially those that have their bitterness shove up so high up in their ass that they can't see past their own thick skull.You know,being bitter because of a loss and yet to be able to have a level headed discussions of the game among rival fans is not really  a hard thing to do.

Second, since you(Reddy) are so quick to refer to me as a scouser,you might as well called me a bluenose and a geordie as well.I've done my fairshare of defending other clubs throughout the years.But i won't blame you for that considering that i don't post much on the forums so it's understandable that you don't know my allegiance to which club.

Third,Solstice..the waawaawaa post i made is indeed a mockery of gto87's whiny post.I don't know how you can interpret it the other way around lol.Have you not heard the phrase "Thou shall reply rubbish with rubbish"?

Fourth, I don't like scousers at all lol

PS:Being oversensitive of every single post on the internet is bad for your health.

I'm not too sure about him.Based on the game against us, he was piss poor.Plus, I believe someone has mentioned once, EPL games are full of pace.Thus, I believe heinze will be poor when he comes to play against the likes of Ronaldo, Young, Nasri sort of players that have not only pace but skills to dribble.Then again, with his price tag of 8m pound and in his late 20, I believe I would prefer Dossena. Younger, cheaper and faster.

I'm not too sure about him.Based on the game against us, he was piss poor.Plus, I believe someone has mentioned once, EPL games are full of pace.Thus, I believe heinze will be poor when he comes to play against the likes of Ronaldo, Young, Nasri sort of players that have not only pace but skills to dribble.Then again, with his price tag of 8m pound and in his late 20, I believe I would prefer Dossena. Younger, cheaper and faster.

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Added on February 27, 2009, 3:06 pm
I try to think that way because I believe you would want to defend them.After all, we are your rivals and is normal if you have a dig on them, no?   

I'm not too sure about him.Based on the game against us, he was piss poor.Plus, I believe someone has mentioned once, EPL games are full of pace.Thus, I believe heinze will be poor when he comes to play against the likes of Ronaldo, Young, Nasri sort of players that have not only pace but skills to dribble.Then again, with his price tag of 8m pound and in his late 20, I believe I would prefer Dossena. Younger, cheaper and faster.

While i do admit of trolling other scouse forums in my spare time but hey i always welcome a round of meaningful discussions of the game among rivals.

Dossena ard 27 if I'm not mistaken so not exactly young in these times. While rumors had it at 7 mil quid so the price is almost the same while maybe Doss is faster but Heinze is BPL proven though may have some loss of form. While not many Italians prosper outside Serie A, by that i mean in general.

Never had any discussion with you before.Thus, I cant be sure how your post suppose to be...Anyway, is funny to see him calling u a Liverpool fans...keke..

Well Arbeloa and Aurelio have little pace either yet they're doing ok. Pace means little if you cant defend and play in sync with your teammates. Heinze obviously in decline due to his age but on his day he's really untouchable. He compensates pace with strength so he pretty much just bulldoze his way through. Insua is similarly built so he can potentially be a bull in the making. Heinze did score against us back when he was with Utd no ? Against Real, i thought Heinze did ok until the foul. But the goal was conceded because Gago and i think it was Pepe who were caught ball gazing.

Yes, I think he did score against us.When I said he was piss poor, I wasn't talking about his mistake that lead us scoring the vital goal.He was piss poor in general.The whole left flank of Real Madrid was not click.Marcelo cant even work well with Heinze.Plus, Benayoun was terrorizing their left flank most of the time.To be honest, Benayoun's dribbling skills cant even compare to Riera.All he did was cutting inside with some basic dribbling skills and yet Heinze failed to stop him and let him passed like that.Just count how many times did Benayoun ran passed him?Even the long pass to Benayoun, he wasnt able to stop/anticipate the pass and almost lead to another goal.IMO, he just had a very poor game.And, looking at the post of RM posters that was demanding heinze to be subbed ahead of marcelo, I assume he was not playing good football before the match

when u guys talk abt RM, i just cant forget No8,Gago his name??
Lol that fella! his face is so phaiL! like chinese say " siao bai nian"
those guys who eat girl's rice!..
so Boro next! without torres, maybe should let ngog play in this game!

My Line Up Prediction:



Riera picked up a knock, plus he always kena sub at 60minutes due to his stamina problem.Thus, I believe he wont be starting...Mr Selfish will start. 

MR selfish. nice.. haha..

when u guys talk abt RM, i just cant forget No8,Gago his name??
Lol that fella! his face is so phaiL! like chinese say " siao bai nian"
those guys who eat girl's rice!..
so Boro next! without torres, maybe should let ngog play in this game!