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post Feb 6 2009, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Feb 6 2009, 02:56 PM)
Thanks for update, to our term of component set is Speaker + Tweeter + Crossover.
BTW, anyone interested to buy my Clarion Amp 360W 4 channel? RM300 used for testing speaker & HU (3 weeks only).
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Actually the proper term is 'seperate component', where each of the sound component are played on a seperate speaker. nod.gif
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Feb 6 2009, 12:04 AM)
hmm..true also..lol..earlier i went to an accessories shop n ask about speaker..dat shop recommend me prokick...he said frm korean...and better den china..lol...is the brand good??..like never heard b4.. sweat.gif
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prokick not bad btw...good stuff...


Added on February 6, 2009, 9:03 pm
QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Feb 6 2009, 02:37 PM)
Standard front (not component set)
5 1/2 speaker
Dome tweeter (on dash board)

Standard Rear
6 1/2 speaker
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opps sorry la....hehhe..misleading tim...

coz i din c wats the actual size wen they took out...and dun give a damn...


Added on February 6, 2009, 9:16 pm
QUOTE(jctasoga @ Feb 6 2009, 07:34 PM)
i think its a bit hard to fool the SA la.. ehhe.. dun do tat la.. SA must be our good fren.. then only help us claim many things...

mine is very obvious smth happen to the car before i got it. coz the scratch is 'under' the clear coat. if from far, you won't notice it. only when u washing/waxing, then only will see it.

i like to call my ICE set up a 'stealth' set up. all amps/speakers are hidden away like stock setting. dun have fancy fancy speakers popping out of the doors / brand names on it. hehe..

installing the sonic sensors prevents ppl from breaking into ur car. mine got a high to low settings so can adjust how sensitive are the sensors. not too sensitive until like flies/nyamuk inside car also alarm go off la... this will prevent would-be thieves to target other cars.

my windscreen air leak is very obvious at 100kmh. even the technician said, while releasing pressured air into cabin, can hear very very obvious air leak. good thing its not water leak!!

some SA very helpful and some needs to be 'pushed' for them to work harder. my service advisor been ok but kind like to drag things around. so i always tekan tekan him do things faster.. hehe..
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ahhha..stealth setup ...cool man...mine sumtimes think about it to obvious la.

change spark plugs really makes some pick up difference.......................!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Feb 6 2009, 07:38 PM)
Actually the proper term is 'seperate component', where each of the sound component are played on a seperate speaker. nod.gif
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got such terms named as "seperate component"?

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post Feb 6 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(zenwarlord @ Feb 6 2009, 09:37 PM)
got such terms named as "seperate component"?
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aiyoh... nvm la.. separate or not.. its a combination of speakers n tweeters.. component set flex.gif

btw, there are 3 or 4-way component sets with 2 tweeters n 2 x mids controlled by a x-over? i haven really seen one yet. mostly are single mid + single tweeter + x-over.

keep 'icing'.. flex.gif

eujinee, wat spark plug u changed to? normally i would juz change the spark plug every 5k service or 10k service with my last wira. i'm thinking doing the same for my waja as well.

wats the part number for the spark plug on CPS waja? if installed not compatible ones, will it cause electrical interference? i've gone through tat once in my old wira.. messed up my entire auto-lock and the timing... got pinging n knocking in one package.. haha.. after changed back to ori part number spark plug, then everything ok liao.

any inputs in this sector will be nice.

also, wanna talk abt handling as well. feel the ori waja very like to do excessive body-roll.. haha.. maybe coz the car is taller than wira.... higher profile tires (ori 60series tyres)... wat to install first? the front strut bars?


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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Feb 6 2009, 10:08 PM)
aiyoh... nvm la.. separate or not.. its a combination of speakers n tweeters.. component set  flex.gif

btw, there are 3 or 4-way component sets with 2 tweeters n 2 x mids controlled by a x-over? i haven really seen one yet. mostly are single mid + single tweeter + x-over.

keep 'icing'..  flex.gif

eujinee, wat spark plug u changed to? normally i would juz change the spark plug every 5k service or 10k service with my last wira. i'm thinking doing the same for my waja as well.

wats the part number for the spark plug on CPS waja? if installed not compatible ones, will it cause electrical interference? i've gone through tat once in my old wira.. messed up my entire auto-lock and the timing... got pinging n knocking in one package.. haha.. after changed back to ori part number spark plug, then everything ok liao.

any inputs in this sector will be nice.

also, wanna talk abt handling as well. feel the ori waja very like to do excessive body-roll.. haha.. maybe coz the car is taller than wira.... higher profile tires (ori 60series tyres)... wat to install first? the front strut bars?
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if you really wanna do ICE, never take those 2 way, 3way 6x9 etc. Each frequency of sound should be played only on a specified speaker, else the sound will become muddy.

BTW, just done the shortshifter upgrade. brows.gif
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post Feb 6 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Feb 6 2009, 10:11 PM)
if you really wanna do ICE, never take those 2 way, 3way 6x9 etc. Each frequency of sound should be played only on a specified speaker, else the sound will become muddy.

BTW, just done the shortshifter upgrade.  brows.gif
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wah! wah!! wah!!! so fast!! drool.gif post pics n reviews.. drool.gif
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post Feb 6 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Feb 6 2009, 10:17 PM)
wah! wah!! wah!!! so fast!!  drool.gif  post pics n reviews..  drool.gif
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No point putiing pic, same as standard. The mod invlove cutting and welding of the lever part just outside the GB to move the pivotal point. Feels really good as the throw is shorter. Takes 4 hours to get it done though.
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Feb 6 2009, 10:08 PM)
aiyoh... nvm la.. separate or not.. its a combination of speakers n tweeters.. component set  flex.gif

btw, there are 3 or 4-way component sets with 2 tweeters n 2 x mids controlled by a x-over? i haven really seen one yet. mostly are single mid + single tweeter + x-over.

keep 'icing'..  flex.gif

eujinee, wat spark plug u changed to? normally i would juz change the spark plug every 5k service or 10k service with my last wira. i'm thinking doing the same for my waja as well.

wats the part number for the spark plug on CPS waja? if installed not compatible ones, will it cause electrical interference? i've gone through tat once in my old wira.. messed up my entire auto-lock and the timing... got pinging n knocking in one package.. haha.. after changed back to ori part number spark plug, then everything ok liao.

any inputs in this sector will be nice.

also, wanna talk abt handling as well. feel the ori waja very like to do excessive body-roll.. haha.. maybe coz the car is taller than wira.... higher profile tires (ori 60series tyres)... wat to install first? the front strut bars?
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normal plugs is good for every 20k la bro...no nid to changed tht often..

i changed to denso iridium rm185 for 4 plugs.... thumbup.gif ...can really feel is much better thn my previous ori plug frm proton...

sparkplug part number for cps i think is IT20 or something..is same as campro..u can notice there is no washer rings....is different thn mitsu engine plugs....remember tht...

i dun understand y plugs can coz electrical interference....but anyway...im sure the sifu here can help u bro..


Handling wise leh....ori will roll quite abit during corners....try lowered the car 1st and add 3 point front struts to increase ur handling....

im using Tein dress up master and UR 3 point struts...trust me..it improved dramatically....


Added on February 6, 2009, 11:33 pm
QUOTE(sphiroth @ Feb 6 2009, 10:21 PM)
No point putiing pic, same as standard. The mod invlove cutting and welding of the lever part just outside the GB to move the pivotal point. Feels really good as the throw is shorter. Takes 4 hours to get it done though.
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poison ...poison....but mine auto....already auto shift....hahahhaha..so u engage the gear faster ritez....

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QUOTE(eujinee @ Feb 6 2009, 11:32 PM)
normal plugs is good for every 20k la bro...no nid to changed tht often..

i changed to denso iridium rm185 for 4 plugs.... thumbup.gif ...can really feel is much better thn my previous ori plug frm proton...

sparkplug part number for cps i think is IT20 or something..is same as campro..u can notice there is no washer rings....is different thn mitsu engine plugs....remember tht...

i dun understand y plugs can coz electrical interference....but anyway...im sure the sifu here can help u bro..
Handling wise leh....ori will roll quite abit during corners....try lowered the car 1st and add 3 point front struts to increase ur handling....

im using Tein dress up master and UR 3 point struts...trust me..it improved dramatically....


Added on February 6, 2009, 11:33 pm
poison ...poison....but mine auto....already auto shift....hahahhaha..so u engage the gear faster ritez....
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Agreed. Spring 1st, when damper 'kong' change to short stoke ones. Or straight away change to adjustable. brows.gif

When done with suspension, can start adding bars. Strut bar is a must. If got budget, can add fender bar, then rear, then under carriage, then ARB, the room bar, or get a rollcage laugh.gif


Added on February 6, 2009, 11:39 pm
QUOTE(eujinee @ Feb 6 2009, 11:32 PM)

Added on February 6, 2009, 11:33 pm
poison ...poison....but mine auto....already auto shift....hahahhaha..so u engage the gear faster ritez....
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Still not fast enough as still not used to the 'harder' shifting feels and the clucth is kinda high. Is there a way to adjust the clucth height?

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Clutch height can be done, I did before with my previous Wira at SC..

jctasoga would be nice to see your ICE and sensor setup.. care to have small TT? hmm.gif
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the standard clarion is good enuff for me. it has 4 pre-amp out which i use the rear ones for my 12' cheapo amp from my prev waja. it also has a aux-in input which i use to hook up to my PDA or ipod to listen to songs.

my ICE installer has replaced the capacitors on my tweeter to give it a more mellow sound. not so harsh and sharp. sounds much better. infact i have no plans of changing the HU cause it plays M=mp3 and wma files. Problem is it cant do search function nia.

plugs dun do much diff. my prev mitu waja running on stock then denso iridium and finally ngk Gpower plugs. FC same, response same, only diff is pocket sakit. and not to mention the denso plugs dun last long. only 60k kms before the electrode breaks off.

Adding a 3 pt UR bar does not make much diff also.

my next mod is to wait for RACE to produce full set CPS exhaust and I'll grab one.

The shifter i'm fine with what i have now, i plan for REAL performance gains. LCP will be next after exhaust and filter.

As for springs I plan on going for R3 ones.
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wah...really ah use better spark plugs dosent improve??...i thought using better spark plugs can help improve in FC, pickup and better respond.. sweat.gif .... so just change normal spark plugs will do??..or add abit to get a better ones so that can last longer..lol...

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I also rclxub.gif liao if this is true so better stick to standard plugs.. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(laytiong @ Feb 7 2009, 10:55 AM)
the standard clarion is good enuff for me. it has 4 pre-amp out which i use the rear ones for my 12' cheapo amp from my prev waja. it also has a aux-in input which i use to hook up to my PDA or ipod to listen to songs.

my ICE installer has replaced the capacitors on my tweeter to give it a more mellow sound. not so harsh and sharp. sounds much better. infact i have no plans of changing the HU cause it plays M=mp3 and wma files. Problem is it cant do search function nia.

plugs dun do much diff. my prev mitu waja running on stock then denso iridium and finally ngk Gpower plugs. FC same, response same, only diff is pocket sakit. and not to mention the denso plugs dun last long. only 60k kms before the electrode breaks off.

Adding a 3 pt UR bar does not make much diff also.

my next mod is to wait for RACE to produce full set CPS exhaust and I'll grab one.

The shifter i'm fine with what i have now, i plan for REAL performance gains. LCP will be next after exhaust and filter.

As for springs I plan on going for R3 ones.
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Changing caps will make your tweeter 'kong' faster.

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Feb 7 2009, 11:05 AM)
wah...really ah use better spark plugs dosent improve??...i thought using better spark plugs can help improve in FC, pickup and better respond.. sweat.gif .... so just change normal spark plugs will do??..or add abit to get a better ones so that can last longer..lol...
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True, but very minimal.
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QUOTE(lordragos @ Feb 7 2009, 11:18 AM)
I also  rclxub.gif  liao if this is true so better stick to standard plugs.. ohmy.gif
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lol..yeah..but using better spark plugs extend the life time for the next change...so if the price is for normal and better plugs is around rm50 different..of course get the better 1....so that dont need to change so often..lol
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good to have open debates on the plugs and also the other drooling upgrades on car parts.

from my last experience, the front strut bars are added first on my wira. maybe for waja already body sturdy(strong) enough so not much difference.. i will save up more for the extractor + exhaust and also LCP also. i'll take laytiong n sphiroth advise on the spring + damper upgrades when the current ones are 'konged' out.

on the plugs, i have to agree also tat the plugs are best changed when they are due. after market ones are good during new (like everything else), then over a period of time, you will begin to feel its normal already. I quote from another forum i read last time : " spark plugs just ignites the fuel in the combustion chamber, it does not make it extra stronger or brighter." the fuel mixture will be the one that actually determines the strength/power inside the combustion chamber. anyway, it will all add up at the end also la.. Rm35/set of campro plugs x 4/5 times = 1 set new iridium? hehehe... not wan to pour cold water on u eujinee, but you are cash rich mate! whistling.gif


Added on February 7, 2009, 2:51 pm
QUOTE(laytiong @ Feb 7 2009, 10:55 AM)
the standard clarion is good enuff for me. it has 4 pre-amp out which i use the rear ones for my 12' cheapo amp from my prev waja. it also has a aux-in input which i use to hook up to my PDA or ipod to listen to songs.

my ICE installer has replaced the capacitors on my tweeter to give it a more mellow sound. not so harsh and sharp. sounds much better. infact i have no plans of changing the HU cause it plays M=mp3 and wma files. Problem is it cant do search function nia.

plugs dun do much diff. my prev mitu waja running on stock then denso iridium and finally ngk Gpower plugs. FC same, response same, only diff is pocket sakit. and not to mention the denso plugs dun last long. only 60k kms before the electrode breaks off.

Adding a 3 pt UR bar does not make much diff also.

my next mod is to wait for RACE to produce full set CPS exhaust and I'll grab one.

The shifter i'm fine with what i have now, i plan for REAL performance gains. LCP will be next after exhaust and filter.

As for springs I plan on going for R3 ones.
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my last time my wira also got install caps/resistors to limit the frequency (or so i heard from the boss). it sort of like play until certain volume then cut off. wonder if its the same caps/resistors tat laytiong is talking abt? hmm.gif

at the moment, i haven do the capping thing on my current setup but i will do it soon to get rid of the noise at high pitch (coz the ori tweeters are not performing well).

ICE is according to owner taste n everyone's budget setup. no right or wrong wan. just get something ur ears are fine to listen to. some like loud, some like soft, some like bang bang bang, some like pom pom pom... cool.gif everybody is a winner. thumbup.gif


Added on February 7, 2009, 2:53 pm
QUOTE(lordragos @ Feb 7 2009, 10:47 AM)
Clutch height can be done, I did before with my previous Wira at SC..

jctasoga would be nice to see your ICE and sensor setup.. care to have small TT?  hmm.gif
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no problem man. but this weekend tied up with private schedules already... wub.gif

can meet monday or tuesday nite yamcha.

where r u working? can sms/call my hp o12 71o 598o. Jason here. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Feb 7 2009, 02:46 PM)
good to have open debates on the plugs and also the other drooling upgrades on car parts.

from my last experience, the front strut bars are added first on my wira. maybe for waja already body sturdy(strong) enough so not much difference.. i will save up more for the extractor + exhaust and also LCP also. i'll take laytiong n sphiroth advise on the spring + damper upgrades when the current ones are 'konged' out.

on the plugs, i have to agree also tat the plugs are best changed when they are due. after market ones are good during new (like everything else), then over a period of time, you will begin to feel its normal already. I quote from another forum i read last time : " spark plugs just ignites the fuel in the combustion chamber, it does not make it extra stronger or brighter." the fuel mixture will be the one that actually determines the strength/power inside the combustion chamber. anyway, it will all add up at the end also la.. Rm35/set of campro plugs x 4/5 times = 1 set new iridium? hehehe... not wan to pour cold water on u eujinee, but you are cash rich mate!  whistling.gif


Added on February 7, 2009, 2:51 pm

my last time my wira also got install caps/resistors to limit the frequency (or so i heard from the boss). it sort of like play until certain volume then cut off. wonder if its the same caps/resistors tat laytiong is talking abt?  hmm.gif

at the moment, i haven do the capping thing on my current setup but i will do it soon to get rid of the noise at high pitch (coz the ori tweeters are not performing well).

ICE is according to owner taste n everyone's budget setup. no right or wrong wan. just get something ur ears are fine to listen to. some like loud, some like soft, some like bang bang bang, some like pom pom pom...  cool.gif  everybody is a winner. thumbup.gif


Added on February 7, 2009, 2:53 pm

no problem man. but this weekend tied up with private schedules already...  wub.gif

can meet monday or tuesday nite yamcha.

where r u working? can sms/call my hp o12 71o 598o. Jason here.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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is ok bro..u din pour any cold water on me..i understand...

but hey..i just giving out true opinion b4 and after i changed the plugs...mayb the ur facts is true....btw im not rich mate...im not showing off of wat i mod or wat my car is...im just sharing with you guys...if any1 got me wrong saying im show off thn my apology for my bad....
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is true wen u say every 1 have their own budget and own taste in ICE and modding....so...so it best to do it in ur own way u think u satisfy urself...we all can give advise but the finals are done by the owner....lets hope to c some monster in CPS club here...


Added on February 7, 2009, 3:28 pm
QUOTE(loong2020 @ Feb 7 2009, 01:06 PM)
lol..yeah..but using better spark plugs extend the life time for the next change...so if the price is for normal and better plugs is around rm50 different..of course get the better 1....so that dont need to change so often..lol
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yah..hate to change it every 20k...where else now i can change it every 50k...think about it save me some hassle...


Added on February 7, 2009, 3:32 pm
QUOTE(laytiong @ Feb 7 2009, 10:55 AM)
the standard clarion is good enuff for me. it has 4 pre-amp out which i use the rear ones for my 12' cheapo amp from my prev waja. it also has a aux-in input which i use to hook up to my PDA or ipod to listen to songs.

my ICE installer has replaced the capacitors on my tweeter to give it a more mellow sound. not so harsh and sharp. sounds much better. infact i have no plans of changing the HU cause it plays M=mp3 and wma files. Problem is it cant do search function nia.

plugs dun do much diff. my prev mitu waja running on stock then denso iridium and finally ngk Gpower plugs. FC same, response same, only diff is pocket sakit. and not to mention the denso plugs dun last long. only 60k kms before the electrode breaks off.

Adding a 3 pt UR bar does not make much diff also.

my next mod is to wait for RACE to produce full set CPS exhaust and I'll grab one.

The shifter i'm fine with what i have now, i plan for REAL performance gains. LCP will be next after exhaust and filter.

As for springs I plan on going for R3 ones.
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y place a capacitor to limit the sound freq???i tot suppose to place a resistorS??


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my car 23k d....havent change the spark plug....getting change soon for next service 26k thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jctasoga @ Feb 7 2009, 02:46 PM)
my last time my wira also got install caps/resistors to limit the frequency (or so i heard from the boss). it sort of like play until certain volume then cut off. wonder if its the same caps/resistors tat laytiong is talking abt?  hmm.gif

at the moment, i haven do the capping thing on my current setup but i will do it soon to get rid of the noise at high pitch (coz the ori tweeters are not performing well).

ICE is according to owner taste n everyone's budget setup. no right or wrong wan. just get something ur ears are fine to listen to. some like loud, some like soft, some like bang bang bang, some like pom pom pom...  cool.gif  everybody is a winner. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(eujinee @ Feb 7 2009, 03:26 PM)
y place a capacitor to limit the sound freq???i tot suppose to place a resistorS??
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Both resistor and caps (conenected in parallel) are use to cut off (block) mid and low frequency from entering the tweeter. Depending on the values of both components, it can be adjusted to cut-off certain frequency.
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aah... tat solves the riddle.. hehe.. both resistor n caps are used.

eujinee, good chap! smile.gif monster cps... scary thought...

today pushed some sprints on my cps. 2nd n 3rd gear i tarik from 4k rpm to 5krpm. very robust sound. within a few secs already reached 100kmh.. phew.. i skipped 4th gear go straight to 5gear coz trying to slow down the car.. got traffic ahead n corner also.. hehe.. nice surge of power!

at the car wash, i saw a heavily modded new civic. how to describe.. its speechless. the sides are almost 5 inches extension outwards (those to make the car look wider) whole bodykit and wheel arches, extended spacers on all 4 wheels, air splitter on the front n rear bumpers, huge rear spoiler.... very garang look. but at the end of days, its an auto.. see it sprint also.. half past six type.. sigh.. maybe not wan to squeeze the juice for ppl to see... hear the exhaust loud loud but like no power wan.. hehe.. i think those mods easily rm10k + spray and all. white civic.

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