That is attenuation, wiki for it and you will know why the phone signal drop.
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There is some article about mass damping by using sand bag, but it work more on CD player where you have vibration. I personally didn't try it yet but looking at the different beans fill-up the amp or power inlet really

People say cable is voodoo, I think this is more voodoo. But if you can hear it why not?

Hmm...thanks for the info.

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Added on March 9, 2011, 1:17 pmThose damping are working but the theory still can't find it. I'm still finding what makes that ASI resonator so special too...little heavy bowl, cost like mad, had good effects.

Cable is not voodoo at all, if it is, why the people designing coaxial, cat5e cables so on? It is main to reduce signal loss in the cable.

Theres great info to look on.



This one also tells that tells that lying the cable on wooden block is not a troll.



This post has been edited by Cosef: Mar 9 2011, 01:17 PM

We do so because it's a different story for high speed signals.

AF is only 20-20000KHz. High speed signals do not apply to audio frequencies. AF and RF can be thought of separate entities. They handle differently.

EDIT: Here's something easy to digest: http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...cable-resonance

Do the math and you'll realize how irrelevant resonance is when it comes to AF.

Also, try not reading up sources from cable commercial vendors. Whether you like it or not, people who are trying to sell you products will always be biased. Read up sources from engineering sources instead, they have real experts who deal with much difficult applications.



This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Mar 9 2011, 04:30 PM

Engineers will make a cables that suitable for AF, same as make a suitable cables for RF because theres no ideal cable we can do.

I still read up the commercial cable vendors sources, because all of them finds their own way to solve problem. But i don't like to read reviews, because too much of wrong fancy description.

Sometime have to be flexible too, although the scope can't tells difference, but ear keep finding difference no matter what mood.
I quite like finding all the truth of these anyway.

They already did, eons ago, these cables can be found at your local tech store.

Point is, AF is very very easy to handle and if we are not considering RF, we already have "ideal" cables to transfer AF. So anything else is moot.



Whether they solve issues is debatable. I'd say if you want to know the truth, go directly to the source, i.e. engineering sources.



That only proves that humans are fallible, placebo is really really strong. You can even cure diseases with properly applied placebo. That being said, that does not mean something you hear was there.

Hmm....so you will conclude that all exotic cables vendors are on strong placebo, sharing placebo and doing thier business only?

Yes.

I suppose for a free market, there is nothing wrong with selling placebos. I do not go against the will of demand and supply. But blurring the lines between fantasy and scientific fact should be discouraged as it impedes the understanding of science itself.

IMO i'd like to try finding out the scientific fact that did the placebo.
But who knows in the math we forgotten to put the numbers in the equation to get the placebo.

If your search is to attain placebo, then all the power to you.

You could try reading some books about hypnotism. Maybe free upgrades are on the way

But my now the placebo i wanted are not free

Anyway, what makes you so anti those commercial cables?

Personally speaking, I merely dispute present facts regarding analog electronics. I don't care if anyone buys them. After all, it is your happiness that matters the most eh?

To sum it up, I'm simply anti-ignorance, not in a condescending manner as some people might interpret. I understand that not everyone has the interests in analog electronics and that I really do not care if anyone purchases placebo for their own gain in whichever form.

I love analog electronics. To see them twisted beyond facts saddens me.

Some article about cable:
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This post has been edited by Bida Bing: Mar 10 2011, 08:58 AM

I didn't say it's a trolling fact. Lol. I have tried tuning feet and sticker-like (wall tuner?) product. I did feel the difference. While my 'feel' could be a placebo, I'm certainly to say that the product is well marketed to affect the listener's perception.

Because some people being impress the product and straight purchase it, and they got chopped badly. Another is they try to make it look high end, with great paint and finishing then being taxed, resulted very expensive.

IMO this is not placebo, because subjective stuff sometimes unmeasurable or it is measurable but not a proper method to measure.

Placebo effects are the one that believe next year the earth will doomed after watching 2012.

Yr concept about placebo wrong la...

Placebo effect is when we were "told" a special pill can make us smarter/stronger/bigger/happier/whatever when the pill actually does nothing ..
we just "feel" different bcos of taking the pill..

anyone interested in building LME49830?

This post has been edited by sakaic: Mar 23 2011, 11:11 PM

i am getting a kits of it.

from panson audio?

Credits to chchyong

@xk2,

what kind of system are you on?

rgds,
albert